"Two tickets to Joker: Omelette Deux Fromage."

An actress who wears a dress made entirely out of meat to a major awards show seems like a natural for a Joker movie to me.

Imagine if we get a modern Harley Quinn adaptation who isn't insufferable

Drinker: Wasn't excited about Lady Gaga's casting when I read it but the trailer showed promise. MauLer (wearing a Lady Gaga t-shirt): Excuse me, what did you say?

I was sure Joker didn't need a origin movie and Phoenix was not a good choice for the role... Clearly I was VERY wrong so I'm willing to give this the benefit of the doubt.

Y'know what the problem is? The Mandalorian (among other things) taught me that a well-received installment of an IP like this is just the little worm at the end of a long phoquin' hook. I have learned to expect attachment to IPs is just an attack vector for ideologues, and so I try to care about them as little as possible in general.

Hype is not your friend or ally.

From the wiki on lady gaga - "She also studied method acting at the Lee Strasberg Theatre and Film Institute for ten years." Doesn't mean she's any good, but she's not some singer who just decided to try acting for a lark.

Mauler going to bat for Gaga was great to hear.

The Austin Powers song is what sold me on this movie 😂

Mauler defending Lady Gaga being in this movie was NOT on my 2024 bingo card...

I also didn't think a sequel was really needed but the fact this one looks to be trying something quite a bit different has got me intrigued rather than just another paint by numbers trying to capture what came before. The original film delved pretty well into the more surreal moments and his own imagination running wild so the thought of it turning into a musical within his mind could work well and blur the lines in a fun and creatively dark way.

The "I can fix him" mentality is strong with modern women, Baggage Claim is absolutely right. Also, he's hardly ugly. Maybe not traditionally handsome as he is presented in the role, but average to striking at least.

Sorry, but I don’t trust trailers anymore. I’ll wait until the movie comes out before I render judgement

Mauler has the hots for Lady Gaga. Who'd a thunk?

You can always tell when Mauler starts clutching his pearls a bit.

It's refreshing to see a big budget franchise that actually looks creatively daring rather than committee-led formula

After listening to you legends lament the state of the movie industry for the past few years, I think I heard a glimmer of hope in your voices? Cheers lady & gentlemen.

It's refreshing to see Drinker and the others excited over a movie

Joker was a stand alone masterpiece It can only be ruined

They're doing a sequel because they would rather milk the healthy cash cow, instead of trying to resurrect all the dead ones they slaughtered lol.

My roommate and I watched the Joker at home, and after it ended, we both looked at each other and said, "Yeah, I can relate"

Mauler and Drinker ripping each other apart in this clip like dayum

i don't know, the first one was a surprise for ppl, but it was really an art-style movie. this time the surprise is gone, so what remains is...an art-style movie. and i hear it leans towards musical?. i very much doubt that will work a 2nd time, but hey. also...the first was a character study about Joker, this one will be one about HQ, not sure how many will be drawn to that.

Mauler going to bat for Gaga is pretty funny. The tone of his voice was basically slapping drinker.

I thought "A star is born" would suck... I was completely wrong. Gaga can act much better than expected, Cooper can sing much better than expected.

Madonna was going to play Harley Quinn in the late nineties, along with Howard Stern as the Scarecrow, in a sequel to Batman and Robin which thankfully never got off the ground

MauLer is such a legend! Actually had me cracking up in this clip 🤣

Love Mauler's point with Lady Gaga, it is true, no one is talking about comparing her to Phoenix. Gaga can act and is a great performer. How she acts in this movie, to this particular character can be dissected when the movie plays. Drinker needs to shift in giving examples of poor acting performance he has seen with the actors/actresses instead of assuming an opinion.

The reason i think this could work as a musical is because the first Joker movie was arguably a theatre-of-the-mind, unreliable narrator business that might have all, or partly, been in his head. Having perfect musical adaptation based on a vision he had of a dancer that sets his madness going again... I think it works in premise. Heck, that was the majority of how they pulled of "Chicago," treating it as a theatre production in Roxie's mind. The proof of the pudding is in the eating, of course, but I'm willing to give it a shot. Maybe it's another trojan horse for The Message, but I'll hold out hope until it shows up.

Just why? The story didn't need a continuation.

And now after being portrayed as a victim from SoC1eTy, joker is a semi-wossie that needs Harley's help to pull out his confident, malevolent persona. It's not joker brainwashing a psychiatrist with his charisma and constructed persona, and a smart therapist willingly falling into madness and making the same choice as the joker...it's a 'weakened' and 'silenced' man who needs his woman to find himself. I have no doubt this will be visually beautiful and I'm actually in favour of the mad musical approach (you'll see, they sold it badly, it's not a freaking musical) but this is not joker to me.

I watched the trailer recently; it was better than I thought it was. I hope it does well at the box office. 🎉

One thing that will always amuse me is that Hildur has worked for two people who both started out with stuff like the Hangover and then one went and made HBO’s Chernobyl and Todd made the Joker. I just found that interesting

Drinker's questioning Lady Gaga didn't make sense. He agreed that she was good in 'A Star is Born' but still doubts her because why? She was a pop star? So?

Mauler hits it on the head, GoT is where I noticed Pedro Pascal as an actor, he was intimidating and badass.

When Mauler got his back up, I immediately starting humming, "When A Man Loves A Woman!"

If this movie is commercially successful, I think it will have a new standard for superhero/supervillain movies. The first movie was crazy good and I think the second one will be even more insane. Who knows Lady Gaga could set a new standard for Harley Quin.

I've only ever enjoyed 2 musicals, Rocky Horror and Little Shop of Horrors. I don't see this being the 3rd.

It is delightfully refreshing to see you guys disagreeing with each other but it not descending into the usual web-based bullshit.

I'll watch it on TV.

as someone who is not a Fan of the modern interpretation of Harley Quinn,i still liked the first movie enough to at least give it a chance. Lady Gaga as Harley is actually kinda interesting considering how Eccentric she is in real life and Hearing it was going to have Musical elements actually had me very intrigued. I really want this to actually be a Romantic story in some ways,but not in a way where they make it out to be where Harley Quinn is the true mastermind behind the Duo's schemes like with the Harley Quinn Animated series or with Margo Robbies interpretation. The only thing im wondering is why is Zazie Beets coming back? Her role in the first movie was fairly small and doesnt need to be revisited.

She acted first. Then went into music. She was in HBO the Saprano's.

My introduction to Todd Philips was Road Trip back in 2000. It was one of my favorite movies back then for when I wanted to have something casually fun on my TV. I'm glad to see he's been able to evolve as a filmmaker. Every great piece of work is a result of culminated experience.

Feel like the cynicism football kept being kicked between Mauler and Drinker then promptly got switched out for the optimism ball.

This trailer makes me think of Fight Club, and it wouldn't surprise me to find out that Harley ends up being a Tyler Durden character.

It's nice to see muLer and Drinker have a different opinion on a subject for a change.

Finally a comic book movie that isn't formulaic and we have no idea what to expect from it. How movies are supposed to be made.

I think this has the potential to be the 3rd or 4th musical I actually like. I can only remember The Little Shop of Horrors off the top of my head but I know there were others. I have a strong feeling that this is going to be a banger. I rarely have expectations, so my experience in life is that I am guaranteed to be disappointed. When you are 0/300 on positive expectations it can be traumatizing, I hope it is great.

I’m on the fence with this one. While the trailer looks great; the last time Todd Phillips did a sequel to one of his movies it ended up being crap. Then again that was a decade ago and he’s probably improved in his writing.

I didn't want to see Joker, as Heath Ledger had already done the best performance I could imagine. However, I did enjoy Joker. I am worried about the musical bit for Joker 2. I really hate musicals.

Joker Fol.. Foliu.. Fole.. F@ck! Joker 2 seems promising.

I love that on my PS5 my first ad when I clicked on this video was for Star Wars: Outlaws.

I believe one thing that hasn’t been mentioned is that Lady Gaga in and of itself is a performance. The person Stefani Germanotta has been performing as Lady Gaga for over 15 years, and I believe that deserves as much credit as her more conventional performances in films.

Coming from NY, Lady Gaga was a known talent before her albums blew up. She’s a weirdo theater kid / performer. You could criticize her for being a little derivative and wearing her influences on her sleeve, but she’s definitely capable of having a solid take on Harley Quinn. Shes a great casting.

I watch Joaquin Phoenix for his ability to play tortured characters. His ability to show multiple emotions in one expression is very impressive. Lady Gaga, when given the right material, can also act the hell out of things. I'm quite curious at this point....

Thank you sir!

I'm not watching a freaking musical

Mauler didn't have to be afraid to simply say Lady Gaga is a good actress. There are plenty of people who started as musicians first that are also good in movies.

Lady Gaga is absolutely a great great great actress. Choosing her for the role is ace.

the elephant in the room should surely be that it's likely only a fucking musical because of lady gaga joining the project in the first place though?

media outlets should really pick up on the fact that this movie will inspire more on edge teenagers to commit spontaneous musical numbers

Ye ol' trailer bait and switch. Not falling for it.

Personally I thought the first Joker was a very good movie. So I hope they can keep it on that level if they made a sequel

The icing on the cake would be that media would praise this film because the first one (which they hated) was popular. But the average viewer would hate it.

IT'S A MUSICAL?!?!?!!?!?!?! blank me to infinity

'No woman liked it' because there was no cheesy romance.

Hey Wonderful Drinker and your lustrous cohorts. Love your takes videos and other things such as this. If you remember, the first Joker was all mood and music and method acting. I did not know until watching this that it will be a musical Joker 2. At the end of Joker and around the epiphany point in the film, he was dancing around with music that was not there. And the symphony at the end where he was heralded by the protesters and the music drove that scene. I have watched Laga Gaga in her films and honestly she had done an incredible job like seriously surprised. Vulnerability on display which is hard to make believe. Anyways, I think the musical aspect is to be the ethos in the mind of the Joker, that as long a the melody of madness is playing in his head, then he does not have to face the reality of his real life, which is tragic. Therefore, the movie explaines his madness as a separation from the actual state to a state of sedation in which he feels Powerful and lacks Emparhy. This will be a very interesting sequel, in which I do not recall anyone really challenging mental illness in this kind of way. I thought Joker 1 was a deep dive into the psychology of a mentally unstable person and I think this side show circus like addition speaks to that unhinged clown of of a psycho that we all kind of fell in love with as a supervillian. You know, the best thing about Batman and his row of antagonists is that they are all real people without godlike superpowers. In other words, they have to use their intellect, acquired skills, and resources to act in any and all capacity wether they be on the side of good or evil. I'm looking forward to this film, but wether it sucks or it's good, that's all I have to say about it. Go away now!

I’m kinda happy to hear everyone having a different opinion on this instead of the usually rank and file opinion. This movie could go in any direction, and these critics’ opinions showcase that.

When I saw they made Harley a patient instead of a doctor I lost interest. It could be good but I don’t have much hope this will be as good as the trailer otherwise makes it seem.

She was phenomenal in AHS she is a REALLY GOOD actresses better than some who have been acting in movies there whole lives ❤

A Joker musical is gonna be more gay than if you combined Velma, She Hulk and The Acolyte

I rewatched the original, and thought about the reasons that made it work. I came away thinking that what it needed was musical covers and Lady Gaga. Because everything we saw in original just screams, “This world needs a studio promoted pop star and soundtrack tie in!” Get me a random group of DEI hires with no experience, that haven’t seen the first movie, STAT!” Clearly, a recipe for success.

Lady Grogu as harley Sqwin

“Joker has a problem with black women”

Its gonna be a MUSICAL?! I dont even like live action musicals, but for THIS movie?! Omg I'm actually way more excited.

I'm gonna watch it. I hope it's not terrible

I saw the first Joker on a Thursday early screening in 2019, and I plan to do the same for this one

But why a musical?

The trailer looks good! I will probably check out 😊

Musicals are Life with a soundtrack that everyone knows!

Trailer was a masterpiece.

Dude said "I don't like auto turn" while talking about liking the auto tune queen?! 😂🤦‍♂️👍

being on pitch is not the only thing that makes a voice sound good, especially in a musical where you have so much expression in how you’re using your voice. if you have a really high budget musical, i actually think the singing is more important than the acting ability (of course relatively, both have to be on a high standard and i personally think the singing ability should be a tad more important). then again, i’m a musician so i’m biased

A musical can work as long as the characters are interesting and the story is great. I have seen some crazy animated stuff that is... good. And yes they sing, a lot, but it is GOOD.

It looks like a Harley/GaGa bait and switch to me. People excited by that trailer are too easily swayed. You should know how this works by now.

I’ve been saying it from the beginning, let Todd Philips cook

This guy that is playing Harley is doing a great job acting as Harley.

I'm optimistic (as much as one can be these days). If they were going to make a sequel to Joker, telling the story of Harley Quinn was absolutely the right move. We know the Joker (Arthur) has an altered sense of reality, so the musical part could make sense in the universe. Also, Gaga is moderately attractive, but not unrealistically good looking, like Margot Robbie, so she fits in the drab Joker universe. Some women being attracted towards violent killers in prison is a known phenomenon which fits well in the universe. Having seen a Star is Born, Gaga seems like she can act as long as she's directed well, although she still has a lot to prove. I thought the trailer was promising.

They were wise to keep any scene of the inevitable over-acting from Gaga out of the trailer. My one hope is that Todd Phillips was able to keep her mostly subdued.

I wonder if Twitter, mainstream media, FBI, and the US military are going to have another meltdown over this movie, fear monger and try paint the sequel as a call to arms for incels to incite violence against women like they did with the first one. I still don’t understand their thought process and why they thought that in the first place. Arthur’s victims were overwhelmingly men. He killed 5 men and his supporters injured 2 guys. He does kill his adoptive mom but it had nothing to do with her gender, he killed her because she abused him as a kid and lied about his parents. When he found out that the younger woman in the film was a part of his delusions and didn’t actually care for him, he didn’t rage about it and kill her. He left her apartment and left her alone, and she was never brought up in the movie again.

Seeing as Lady Gaga is arguably the modern day Madonna, and Madonna was in fact rumored to have played Harley Quinn in the unmade Batman sequel and eventually the basis for Harley in the current Batman '89 Echos comic...I think its pretty neat casting.

I'm not even a stan but I guarantee Gaga will blow everyone away.

Stephanie Germanotta has already created a Persona that is both damaged and off-kilter. Lady Gaga is an off-the-shelf companion for the Joker. That is a Director's (wet) dream.

Musicals are for the stage or family friendly T.V./Film.

I remember seeing Blade 2 when I was 14. In that movie they cast Luke Goss of Bros (an 80s British boy band) as the villain, Jared Nomak. The consensus from most people who watched it was that Goss was horrendously miscast, what were they thinking casting a pop star as the main villain, that for most people it was distracting, completely pulled them out of the movie and prevented them from taking it seriously. The thing is, I had never seen or heard of Bros. I had no idea who Luke Goss was, didn't know he was already famous for being in a band, and I thought his performance in that movie was great. I just saw him as another actor and didn't notice anything subpar about his acting. The point I'm making is that I think a lot of times the problem people have with seeing a musician or pop star acting in a movie, a lot of the times the problem is in the head of the viewer.

The Drinker has been showing himself up recently as The Emperor Who Has No Clothes. He's not as interesting or as clever as he thinks he is. Similar could also be said for Mauler. But at least he takes a bit longer to express his opinions in the main.

I hope for those who enjoy Musicals that it is an enjoyable experience. I am fatally allergic to Musicals, yet I appreciate them for what they are and respect other Folk's opinions- I want People to have what they want too.

I thought it looked terrible, but then I can't stand Lady GaGa.

Wait, this is a musical?