2022 Jeep Compass vs Subaru Forester Wilderness Deep Snow Winter Test

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We take our new 2022 Jeep Compass Trailhawk into the deep snow to see just how well its all-wheel drive system performs when pushed to the limit. Plus, we compare it against the new 2022 Subaru Forester Wilderness to see which is the better foul-weather friend.
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#CONTENTS
00:00 - Introduction
03:18 - Ice Road Cone Slalom
08:38 - Easy Hill
11:00 - Deep Snow Hill Climb
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@FJBMAGAPatriotUSA1
@FJBMAGAPatriotUSA1 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been a Jeep person MY WHOLE LIFE! With that being said… I bought a Subaru Outback Wilderness on a whim, I fell in love with this damn thing and have taken it several times where I usually take my Jeep Rubicon. This Subaru WILL go anywhere I wish for it to go! My wife and I have been blown away by its nimbleness, comfort and reliability. I would NEVER have guessed I would be driving a Subaru… but life is funny that way. It’s TRUE…once you drive a Subaru, you’ll own a Subaru!💪🏼😇
@jonathanbormann5077
@jonathanbormann5077 2 жыл бұрын
Here I am considering swapping my Crosstrek for a Cherokee trailhawk
@benw2578
@benw2578 2 жыл бұрын
@@jonathanbormann5077 well don’t buy a crosstrek if you really wanted a trail hawk. Very different cars
@jonathanbormann5077
@jonathanbormann5077 2 жыл бұрын
@@benw2578 I bought the Crosstrek in '17 man. Getting to the 100k mark but looking to get something a tad bigger and just as if not more capable. Mainly commuter but I also deal with heavy snow.
@benw2578
@benw2578 2 жыл бұрын
@@jonathanbormann5077 yeah I think you’re looking in the right spot then. Trailhawk definitely seems like one option for you
@benw2578
@benw2578 2 жыл бұрын
@@jonathanbormann5077 I had my forester in the shop overnight and I was given one of the new crosstreks as a rental but dang that’s a tight interior for my tastes
@Crispy_VA
@Crispy_VA 2 жыл бұрын
I just bought a 2022 Forester Wilderness, 10/10 boys. I’ve driven a pos for 3 years to be able to buy it, absolutely worth it..
@ninjaca
@ninjaca 2 жыл бұрын
I believe that for most people, this type of testing is the most informative. Especially for Canadians, it is important to know how a vehicle will handle on snow covered roads, including at highway speeds. Thank you for this.
@magnetman3t725
@magnetman3t725 2 жыл бұрын
These real world videos in snow are awesome keep these going. I have a 2019 Subaru Sport and it amazes me all the time in snowy conditions no issues at all.
@bulldogfit1584
@bulldogfit1584 2 жыл бұрын
We have dedicated snow tires on our 2021 Subaru CrossTrek Sport and it’s a tank. Awesome car.
@gnyphq6405
@gnyphq6405 2 жыл бұрын
Can confirm, same experience.
@filcad
@filcad 2 жыл бұрын
Agree. I have Michellin X-Ice on my 2021 Crosstrek. Does really great in Manitoba, Canada's harsh winter. 🥶💯
@czierwo
@czierwo 2 жыл бұрын
I've got a dedicated winters on my Legacy, and only time I get beat off lights is when I don't pay attention on lights change 😂 Subarus = winter tanks!
@LegioXIII-SPQR
@LegioXIII-SPQR 2 жыл бұрын
@@filcad You must be loving today's snow, then. Its so much fun driving after a big snowfall
@mateuspereira1360
@mateuspereira1360 2 жыл бұрын
In the Compass you can adjust de speed in Hill Descent Control by pressing soft on the gas pedal or brake pedal. This information is found on the Owner's Manual
@arekay21
@arekay21 2 жыл бұрын
Owners manual? Who has time for that. 🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️ rtfm lol
@mateuspereira1360
@mateuspereira1360 2 жыл бұрын
@@arekay21 maybe someone who wants to take care and know most of his car
@arekay21
@arekay21 2 жыл бұрын
@@mateuspereira1360 I know I was being sarcastic LOL
@off-roadingexplained8417
@off-roadingexplained8417 2 жыл бұрын
I'm very thankful that the information on your video is super accurate. So many people get the stats wrong.
@brandonruhl1639
@brandonruhl1639 2 жыл бұрын
The Jeep would have gotten up that deep snowy hill no problem in snow mode as I’ve seen other reviews where it went up a lot deeper snow than even that without a issue
@itsoscar6247
@itsoscar6247 Жыл бұрын
Facts
@jackhoyer7467
@jackhoyer7467 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Ryan. Great video! Very clear comparison and analysis. Of course as a new FW owner I might be a little biased!
@scottfisher7590
@scottfisher7590 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another great video. I hope there is still some snow when you are able to test the Pathfinder later this month. I'm in Eastern Washington and there should be places with plenty of snow. Looking forward to your next video.
@sethlingenfelter
@sethlingenfelter 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! I really enjoy watching your channel and look forward to new content. Keep up the great work!
@beaglesinthesun
@beaglesinthesun 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great reviews. I have had my new Forester wilderness for one week now. You were right, it is plenty fast enough, even when not in sport mode. For those of you wanting a turbo...it doesn't't need one! I love this SUV!
@youngrenl
@youngrenl 2 жыл бұрын
May I ask where you are located? I would be concerned about the non turbo forester in high altitude areas where I am hauling 3-4 people
@kirksmith347
@kirksmith347 Жыл бұрын
It does need a turbo we have a 21 sport I drive in the city and it struggles merging on the freeway, I love everything else about the car. If it had a turbo it would have been amazing.
@beaglesinthesun
@beaglesinthesun Жыл бұрын
@@youngrenl In Florida. FYI: None of Toyota's SUV's have a turbo 🤔
@Madaster1917
@Madaster1917 Жыл бұрын
@@kirksmith347 Use "sport mode" to get on the freeway. It's fine.
@kjamesjr
@kjamesjr Жыл бұрын
@@kirksmith347 The sport doesn’t have the same 4.11:1 gear ratio as the wilderness. The sport has 3.70:1. The wilderness has more low end torque which is why it feels faster. There’s more to the forester wilderness than just the fancy trim. It has a more robust drivetrain.
@Kiss__Kiss
@Kiss__Kiss 2 жыл бұрын
+1 For Subaru.. Even without proper tires.. Although, to be honest, It has more Ground Clearance. Either way, a treat on this 3 day weekend.. Thanks, Ryan.
@Andy-dc7hr
@Andy-dc7hr 2 жыл бұрын
And the Subaru AWD didn't overheat.
@NudlemanJones
@NudlemanJones 2 жыл бұрын
@@Andy-dc7hr The Wilderness does have a CVT cooler built in, I believe.
@tallll70
@tallll70 2 жыл бұрын
Subaru had half the incline plowed by another vehicle, but so it seems it does put power back more aggressively allowing less understeer and better climb support which is big plus
@Kiss__Kiss
@Kiss__Kiss 2 жыл бұрын
@@tallll70 @ 14:25 Even before Ryan reaches his cameraman, you can see it is fresh snow.. Therefore the Subaru did not take the easy route 100% of the time. Meaning, it surpassed the Jeep's tracks.. Plus we all know, Subaru has the Better AWD system. Therefore it would have made the trek even without the Jeep "Plowing part of the way."
@tallll70
@tallll70 2 жыл бұрын
​@@Kiss__Kiss nahh, if it would have to heat up it's clutches from bottom, who knows what would happen in half or bit passed it, also, i would disagree on "better", Subaru has less features on same system, only slip activated center, can not pre close clutches, has no low dedicated gear, plus cvt does not favor it either, only advantage directly noticeable is more aggressive power to rear wheels as it seems from this test
@pete1067
@pete1067 2 жыл бұрын
A pseudo-AWD on trail-rated Jeep that overheats going up a tiny hill is always fun to watch!
@attnielthomas7856
@attnielthomas7856 2 жыл бұрын
Overheats in cold/ freezing temperatures! Wow. Just saying.
@justicecenter
@justicecenter 2 жыл бұрын
@@attnielthomas7856 yeah because the person driving doesn’t know what he’s doing.
@arjarjarj7288
@arjarjarj7288 2 жыл бұрын
That because he was in sand mode for some reason. sand mode allows slipping in the rear diff which will eventually overheat. Should have been in snow mode.
@wanglee21
@wanglee21 2 жыл бұрын
@@justicecenter He did go into snow mode, still didn't work. Would be funny if he re-did the test in snow mode and still over heats. Which is exactly what will happen. While everyone had claimed the CVT was the over heater from the prior Forester video he made. He clearly debunks all the Subaru haters. lol
@codybrackett812
@codybrackett812 2 жыл бұрын
@@wanglee21 not really. The subaru had over half a trail broke for it. Also I find sport mode traction control off in those jeeps to work best. The snow mode is very restrictive cuts power.
@venkatnbt
@venkatnbt 2 жыл бұрын
Was waiting for this ! thankyou !
@ednafronkelbarger8601
@ednafronkelbarger8601 2 жыл бұрын
Very informative and very helpful. Reinforces my decision to get the Compass.
@Enrique_SM
@Enrique_SM 2 жыл бұрын
For 20 years I was a Toyota fan....... but when I got a Forester ..... I can say it is unbelieveable in water, sand, snow etc .... this car was made just for best and safety conduction.
@jesusmelendez9563
@jesusmelendez9563 2 жыл бұрын
Now that’s a great pick to compare
@carlosbishig1
@carlosbishig1 2 жыл бұрын
Great video and hello from Puerto Rico 🇵🇷
@sarimsok83
@sarimsok83 2 жыл бұрын
(Canadian here) I just got a 22 compass (not a Trailhawk), and had a chance to test it on snow. Full confidence of what it offers. I like to keep my finger on the 4x4 switch, and flip it up from auto when I'm in traffic and starts to fish tail lol.
@jeromegutierrez9297
@jeromegutierrez9297 Жыл бұрын
Put it in snow mode you gonna feel the traction.
@matthewolean5727
@matthewolean5727 2 жыл бұрын
"drops the hammer on any potential fun" is definitely the quote of the day.
@nairolfnednilruz
@nairolfnednilruz 2 жыл бұрын
You guys certainly are one of the best - if not the best - testers for Suv‘s, / reall Offroad consumer cars. This test in the clip is an excellent example.
@pmcandrews12
@pmcandrews12 2 жыл бұрын
Another great video! Good work!
@ibrarutta9328
@ibrarutta9328 2 жыл бұрын
thank you sir those who have doubts about subaru CVT i think now they have the answer
@wingmanhoy3999
@wingmanhoy3999 2 жыл бұрын
Love my Forester, it's such an awesome beautiful 🥰 SUV that does it all for me, all the very best.
@jovandjukic5923
@jovandjukic5923 2 жыл бұрын
11:45 Traction control is cutting power... You should turn off and let tires to dig in snow... Look how Subi is digging. You should try second try from begining with Jeep.
@TheCarterMan
@TheCarterMan 2 жыл бұрын
Also to use Hill Decent you can adjust the speed by using the accelerator pedal for up and down by using the brake.
@sergioalizagabarrantes4722
@sergioalizagabarrantes4722 2 жыл бұрын
You guys didn’t say it but the best conclusion is that a Subaru hardly will let you down, even if the tires aren’t the right ones! Nice video!!
@kyleanderson7875
@kyleanderson7875 2 жыл бұрын
If you hold the traction control button for a out 10 seconds, it will completely disable the traction control system and you will make that hill. I have a 16 patriot withe same engine, but the 6spd hyaundai Trans. It kicks ass in snow. The over heating is from brakes grabbing constantly. It heats the clutches up quick.
@Darylrb1983
@Darylrb1983 2 жыл бұрын
Those used a hyundai transmission? Good to know
@srqsup
@srqsup 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. I have a Outback Wilderness and on snowy and icy Alaska back roads it runs circles around my F250 or any other SUV. In the winter I use Hakkapallita 10 studded tires and in my experience they are unbeatable.
@HomesteadOnThePreserve
@HomesteadOnThePreserve 2 жыл бұрын
Waiting on my 2022 special ordered Outback Wilderness to come in. Funny how people rag on the CVT but personally I love them. As seen in this test the CVT was actually a big advantage by not having shift points. Our Outbacks have even more aggressive Xmode then the Forester Wilderness because Xmode doesn't shut off at slip over 25mph.
@Steve-yo4ld
@Steve-yo4ld 2 жыл бұрын
The best snow tire on the Market, that's what I used in Upstate New York!!👌
@srqsup
@srqsup 2 жыл бұрын
@@HomesteadOnThePreserve the CVT is fantastic for what it’s designed to do. The people who complain about it are off roaring beyond the Subies designed function. If you want a hard core of roader get one it will be great crawling through mud and over rocks but not really enjoyable on a 600 mile highway trip. Nothing beats the Subie for dirt/gravel roads, snow, mud along with regular Hwy driving.
@Sloba1992
@Sloba1992 Жыл бұрын
I have Hakka 9 studded tires they are No1. for sure
@pigybak
@pigybak 2 жыл бұрын
Nice drone shots!
@raphaelsanchez4797
@raphaelsanchez4797 2 жыл бұрын
Wonderful video. I can tell you put a lot of time into these videos and we are better off because of it.
@Nurmagomedov0
@Nurmagomedov0 2 жыл бұрын
Love your work man and appreciate it When are you going to do Toyota Highlander 2022
@LionRunner
@LionRunner 2 жыл бұрын
Which Highlander. It got 3 very different AWD systems available.🙂 Dynamic Torque Control AWD, Dynamic Torque Vectoring AWD, Electronic On-Demand AWD.
@diver362
@diver362 Жыл бұрын
I see more and more of these compass videos and I really am starting to respect them. It’s like the little engine that could. The Outback has always been a favourite of mine though.
@nog117
@nog117 Жыл бұрын
my compass sucks in the snow. Its super cheap. The automatic awd system is constantly making a reving sound I guess its trying to see if it needs to engage awd.
@hk5288
@hk5288 9 ай бұрын
@@nog117Interesting…what year do you have? I have a 2012 4x4 and it has always done amazing in snow/rain. Drove it 7 hours in an ice storm and was one of the few vehicles who made it to my destination without an accident or sliding off the road. Just bought a 2023 Trailhawk. I expect it will perform similarly but time will tell.
@Databyter
@Databyter Жыл бұрын
Two things. Most cars have a manual setting on the shifter, that limits shifting to higher gears. This is useful when you DONT want to lose momentum shifting in snow or sand or mud, and you also don't want or need a different mode.. Also in Hill descent, if the car has no ability to adjust the speed it might be that it will lock to the speed it was engaged in. Or if engaged at a stop, it's minimum speed. I believe this is how some vehicles handle this. You can't adjust it, but you CAN self regulate a good speed and let the car take over at that speed. And I don't know about the Jeep, so maybe not. But it's worth looking into. I sorta doubt it is set that slow and you HAVE to use it like that, so it may work as described.
@ryaninwa5375
@ryaninwa5375 2 жыл бұрын
Just got back from Mountain Loop HWY with my Maverick. Got to 3000ft before the snow hit about a foot and I turned around. Love the trucklet!
@kennethcurtis1856
@kennethcurtis1856 Жыл бұрын
Congratulations, but this isn't about your Maverick.
@ryaninwa5375
@ryaninwa5375 Жыл бұрын
@@kennethcurtis1856 No, it was about driving forect roads and icy conditions. Thanks for your concern about my 11 month old post.
@SJPizzo
@SJPizzo 2 жыл бұрын
I know technical reading is not the most enjoyable, but before you do a review you should probably read the Owner's Manual. With the Compass in 4-Wheel Lock and in neutral you press the electronic stability control button located on the dash to disable the stability control, you then press and hold down the stability control button for 5 seconds. You will hear three beeps and a notification will appear on the driver's dash display that all stability and traction control aids have been disabled (basically the Compass' "Lock Out" Mode with equal power to all wheels). If you would have done this the Jeep would have climbed the hill with no problem. 4-wheel low is for rock crawling/climbing when the tires are deflated and traction is good.
@mmadavey
@mmadavey Жыл бұрын
This guy literally knows nothing about 4wd systems which is maybe a good test because most people don’t and won’t read the manual. The car companies need to make it stupid easy to understand.
@greekpapi
@greekpapi Жыл бұрын
Back in 2010 my company gave us all Subaru Legacy's. I was not too thrilled about it in the beginning, then winter arrived and you know what?? I'll never be without a Subaru ever again. No matter what the road conditions, this car goes where you point it. While all other drivers were sliding all over the place, my Subaru was planted firmly. I'd have to say, Subaru got this all wheel drive thing right.
@MrWhitelightning73
@MrWhitelightning73 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent review
@vincentgregory709
@vincentgregory709 2 жыл бұрын
On my 2020 Renegade you can hold down the TSC button for about 30 sec and it will ding and disable the stability control and traction control should let it get a bit more sideways
@got_to_roll
@got_to_roll 2 жыл бұрын
So glad you're making these fantastic videos! Information with entertainment presented in a way nobody else is doing. Nicely done!
@kevinmunoz771
@kevinmunoz771 Жыл бұрын
For the Jeep Compass, if you want you have “fun” all you have to do it is click one button and that’s the off/road button for better drifting experience like the Subaru. Good video!
@kartboarder22g17
@kartboarder22g17 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I like to get some slide thanks for doing these reviews. My wife's enclave will just understeer so annoying. I used to have a 2008 Vue and that thing was perfect.
@ME-gr8hz
@ME-gr8hz 2 жыл бұрын
Researched this car segment for the last 2 months, my findings, - 5th gen forester rated #1 in safety and readability over all others including RAV, trial hawk, honda and bronco sport. That said, it has been a long road for Subaru from the CVT tranny , oil consumption, head gasket issues of past generation vehicles. At 6'3, CR just announced the Forester is #1 with tall drivers as well, no surprise as the "green house" visibility is very attractive. All the safety dings can be disabled permanently, with the exception of engine on/off at stop. After market solution will solve that as well. So, I will be picking up my Subaru Forester Wilderness / pearl white next week. Comfortable driving on and off road, safety and readability, looks, honest service advisors that I have visited with during this time, all have pushed me this direction. And finally driving my daughters 2017 Forester premium, sold me on being a Subie owner. Suggested maintenance to ensure long life; 30k diff (F/R) service, 40k CVT Transmission service, and oil changes every 4k. Compared to the Outback, Off road analysis/videos show the turbo in the Outback gets totally in the way of performance when climbing, as the Forester's new gearing and software changes bring much more to the equation over the turbo, in my opinion. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/kKyPfdeYr53Fe4U.html HAPPY TRAILS
@derrickschultz6871
@derrickschultz6871 2 жыл бұрын
Hill descent is something that you try once for the fun, and never use until you check to see if it still works down the road.
@seanwatson3790
@seanwatson3790 2 жыл бұрын
Disagree. Well, maybe that hill descent. But my KZfaq channel did a trail review on black bear pass and I used hill descent on my Cherokee trailhawk like a Lot on that trail. It's also way better for steep ice. Also we have a video coming out soon on red cone and I used hill descent on the super steep hills at the end and made them no problem. For the most part brakes are just fine, but when the hill is extreme, you will be happy you have it. I know I was
@mallninja12
@mallninja12 2 жыл бұрын
I use hill decent all the time. Went down Otay Truck Trail at about 9mph last weekend, and didn't have my foot on either pedal the entire way down.
@KittRembo
@KittRembo 2 жыл бұрын
I’m frustrated that on my Subaru Crosstrek that Hill Decent is only active in Xmode at less than 10 miles an hour and doesn’t activate in another other steep hill situations
@Aqwanermuk
@Aqwanermuk 2 жыл бұрын
@@seanwatson3790 Would you say Hill Descent Control is better than using 4 Low and manually shifting into 1st gear?
@Aqwanermuk
@Aqwanermuk 2 жыл бұрын
@@KittRembo Why don't you just put it in manual mode and put it in 1st gear while using X Mode?
@Honestandtruth
@Honestandtruth 2 жыл бұрын
This is A Fair and Square Comparison for Both SUV...,👍
@boranars79
@boranars79 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your review.
@2flyfar
@2flyfar Жыл бұрын
Bought a new Jeep Compass limited 2022 model in September 2022 and from day 1 it was a lemon. Paint started peeling off bumper bar, touch screen was faulty, maps kept dropping out and then the car became increasingly harder to start , all this within 3 weeks. We were then by week 6 of owning this car involved in a bad accident and we were rear ended at 80Kmh whilst stationary at roadworks. We are pushed into 2 cars in front of off and suffered severe whiplash and other injuries. The front airbags when pushed into the cars in front did not activate. Jeep investigated the car which was a write off and said airbags were not faulty. I told them they have to be kidding. Anyhow don't but a Jeep. We bought a new Sportage GT Line turbo diesel instead a much more sophisticated vehicle and safer. All the above can be verified.
@Whowannabeu
@Whowannabeu 2 жыл бұрын
While using hill descent assist in the Jeep you have to use the pedal shifters to adjust your speed.
@zrangel
@zrangel 2 жыл бұрын
exacly! The should ckeck the manual with extra information for situation like that :)
@chemuzio-ssir2015
@chemuzio-ssir2015 Жыл бұрын
It doesn’t have paddle shifters lol
@randalsexton7226
@randalsexton7226 Жыл бұрын
I think you shift the gear select lever into manual mode and use the shift up/down to adjust hill descent speed.
@ryzenforce
@ryzenforce 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! Just got my Outback Wilderness 2 days ago and I just came back from a "ride" into the blizzard that is raging right now: it's like being on a dry road in that car! Of course, my OBW is on 4 x Hakkapeliitta R3 so there isn't much issues. And if it is still to much out there, 4 x Studded Hakka 9 are waiting for emergencies!
@Hyakman5408
@Hyakman5408 3 ай бұрын
In 2007, I bought a used 2002 Forester with a manual tranny. Nothing fancy, but supremely capable off-road in any weather conditions. I took care of it and didn't abuse it, but I had to let it go several years ago. Late last year, we rented a Compass for a couple of days, but the circumstances were such that I couldn't give it a decent test drive on one of our local USFS roads.
@rachelsanford9061
@rachelsanford9061 Жыл бұрын
I own a 2008 Subaru and it may not have all the bells and whistles like the newer models but still gets me around amazingly in all weather. I’ve thought about getting a Jeep but I’m still going to go with my Subaru when I need to purchase my next vehicle.
@billsmotrilla6215
@billsmotrilla6215 2 жыл бұрын
You adjust the hill descent control by putting the transmission in manual gear select and bumping the gear up or down.
@softwarephil1709
@softwarephil1709 Жыл бұрын
“No overheat. No warnings.” It just gets the job done. Go Suby go! ❤️
@CTU-JackBauer
@CTU-JackBauer 10 ай бұрын
He was for some reason not using snow mode on the biggest hill and deepest snow… and then he wonders why it doesn’t perform
@gamingseeks3580
@gamingseeks3580 2 жыл бұрын
i love my jeep commander and its quadra drive 2 system with ko2 tires its a beast with a hemi under the hood
@4x4.tests.on.rollers
@4x4.tests.on.rollers 2 жыл бұрын
LOCK button locks only the front clutch (in PTU). It is connecting the driveshaft to the system but still only front wheels may be powered.
@Japplesnap
@Japplesnap Жыл бұрын
I'd take the Jeep for sure. It looks like a mini version of the Grand Cherokee. Too bad you guys didn't use the Subaru on that last hill first. It would have been interesting to see how the Jeep would have done if it went up halfway in the Subaru's tracks instead of the other way around.
@KenCheng
@KenCheng Жыл бұрын
and too bad the Subaru didn't also get better tires like the Jeep 😒
@tjjohnson927
@tjjohnson927 2 жыл бұрын
I prefer the look of the Subaru and it has a very smooth ride, but I’m biased since I have one
@cruznaround_4806
@cruznaround_4806 2 жыл бұрын
great review! wish they just released the subaru forester with real 4wd/ low range already
@anthonyduncan4877
@anthonyduncan4877 2 жыл бұрын
Give me oversteer vs understeer any day. I have a Forester Sport and it's been a champ in snow.
@DrivenHard
@DrivenHard 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video here. So impressed with what the Jeep was able to get done!
@dude213451
@dude213451 2 жыл бұрын
Would have been interesting to see them with the same tires equipped. With the Jeep upgraded to notably better tires, this makes the Subaru’s performance look even better than it already did. -A Subaru fanboy.
@veganpotterthevegan
@veganpotterthevegan 2 жыл бұрын
The tires on the Subie aren't great either.
@sergeantschlumpf6368
@sergeantschlumpf6368 Жыл бұрын
My 2014 Compass 4x4 slides & powerslides-rear end outward-quite nicely ..
@keytothegate68
@keytothegate68 2 жыл бұрын
Very nice video. Also great that you put the snow tires on the Jeep. Not all so called snow tires are really snow tires. I would go with the Michellins Glad you found that hill with unpaved fresh snow road . I would put the Jeep in the snow mode only . Fun watching it
@AWDfreak
@AWDfreak 2 жыл бұрын
This video reminded me of the continuous all-wheel-drive superiority on manual transmission Subaru vehicles. There is almost never any overheating concerns regarding the transmission or all-wheel drive system on manual AWD Subies. 😄 Thanks again as always, Ryan, for doing these helpful and fun tests that almost all other automotive publications refuse to do! 👍
@sunset-eq7rf
@sunset-eq7rf 2 жыл бұрын
You are very correct. When Subaru began installing CVT gearboxes in the 4th generation foresters, they were not as capable as the previous generation. This is why they engineered X mode, to bring it up to the previous generations standards. Their Viscous coupling mechanical limited slip center differentials only found in manuals transmissions are by far some of the best AWD systems. Add traction control, VDC and a good set of tires, you will be making paths for snowplows.
@anormalhickgamer5782
@anormalhickgamer5782 2 жыл бұрын
Thats why i bought a 6spd 2022 crosstrek. Save the manuals
@benjaminlibertarianscorpio
@benjaminlibertarianscorpio 2 жыл бұрын
Too bad this Subaru has open diffs tho
@benjaminlibertarianscorpio
@benjaminlibertarianscorpio 2 жыл бұрын
Subaru automatics have always been junk
@benjaminlibertarianscorpio
@benjaminlibertarianscorpio 2 жыл бұрын
The 9 speed in the Jeep is superior to the automatic CVT Subaru as the lower gears will make up for lack of low range or limited slip or locking diff etc
@bdawg8907
@bdawg8907 2 жыл бұрын
I sure like the body style changes they’ve made to the Compass 😊
@CamboTriton
@CamboTriton 2 жыл бұрын
Best car video channel.
@ordinaryman2
@ordinaryman2 2 жыл бұрын
+1 for Subaru. I was worrying about subaru but it’s animal ). Nice video. Thank you.
@keithwdowczyk4302
@keithwdowczyk4302 2 жыл бұрын
I have a Jeep Compass Trailhawk 2019. It does not perform well in snow with factory tires or with traction control on. I put Falken at3w tires, and remove traction control and it drives fine on snowy backcountry roads and trails I drive on in Northern Ontario Canada. Anyone in Canada knows that the tires makes a massive difference in driving in snow. Although I've had success with the Falken At3w tires they are not true winter tires. Regardless that compass in 4x4 with traction control off, should be able to handle everything in this video. 4x4 low is not meant for high RPMs on this vehicle, nor ideal for going through snow uphill that isn't packed. It overheated because he was reving it up in low. Not meant for that. Low is more so for rocks. You need quite a bit of momentum and throttle approaching the ascent and should get up no problem with traction control off.
@MyAnthony77
@MyAnthony77 2 жыл бұрын
i have both brands: subaru outback sport 2008 (manual transmission) and a Jeep Patriot 4x4 latitude 2014, my choice, the subaru. in this video perfectly shows how reliable subarus are. my Jeep patriot started to disable the 4WD system not even 1 minute after. Totally disappointed with Jeep even i like em so much. thank you for sharing this video. was so helpful.
@FrizwizQS
@FrizwizQS Жыл бұрын
Just bought a compass trailhawk but I also love my outback
@CarGuy11
@CarGuy11 2 жыл бұрын
In Snow Mode does the trans not shift past 6th gear on highway? In my Cherokee Trailhawk it’s not a good mode for highway use.
@shaun1900
@shaun1900 2 жыл бұрын
In Australia This Jeep is 10 -20k (aus) more than the Subaru depending on spec. Jeeps are dying a death over here, whilst Subaru's are everywhere outside of inner cities, I wonder why.
@sarimsok83
@sarimsok83 2 жыл бұрын
It’s gotta be the commercials, I used to think Subarus were Australian lol
@UKR91
@UKR91 2 жыл бұрын
Great job subaru but the design is frustrating
@KilroyActual
@KilroyActual 2 жыл бұрын
Everyone says that about every new change. I think it looks sick.
@sk84life80
@sk84life80 Жыл бұрын
More like a refresh with a new trim/options package than a new design. I have a 17' Forester and it doesn't look much different.
@arturoaguilar875
@arturoaguilar875 Жыл бұрын
That means probably you are not the customer for them. Designs is great! As it has been for years. is like asking jeep wrangler to change the design.
@BoanergesJim
@BoanergesJim 2 жыл бұрын
I would love to see the Outback Wilderness attack that snow!
@bramnovak881
@bramnovak881 2 жыл бұрын
There is a reason there are so many subarus in places where the weather gets wild. Trustworthy.
@1989fed
@1989fed 2 жыл бұрын
I am really impressed with subaru. Thought jeep would win this. I guess, for such situation subaru is better, but for slow (rock)crawling jeep is better.
@davidbrytowski4477
@davidbrytowski4477 2 жыл бұрын
Stability control is keeping you from tossing the rear around. Traction control works on the slip.
@nicolec7290
@nicolec7290 2 жыл бұрын
Good test
@luchaDor
@luchaDor 2 жыл бұрын
I will confirm that its very hard to get the rear to rotate on our Renegade. It never really seems to want to give up on being a FWD biased vehicle regardless of the drive mode setting. Sand or Mud modes are fun, but it never really lets 'go' of the rear end, which is fine for our daughter. For me, I'm just used to 'goosing' the throttle to get the rear to kick around on corners...so it can be annoying with the nannies always running...even with T/C fully off...its never really off as you know.
@shassabo
@shassabo 2 жыл бұрын
even with the 10 second button hold on the TC button?
@luchaDor
@luchaDor 2 жыл бұрын
@@shassabo It helps, and you can get it to slide around...but not as easily as the Forester Wilderness in the cones. Ryan highlights the difference really well...but you can get a nice drift in the Compass/Renegade...you just have to work at it more.
@wildbill23c
@wildbill23c 2 жыл бұрын
The way the AWD system works in these Jeeps doesn't push enough power to the rear end at all doesn't matter what setting, they're purely a reactionary mall crawler AWD system.
@shassabo
@shassabo 2 жыл бұрын
@@wildbill23c pretty sure it’s 50/50 with a clutch that sends the power back on the trailhawks, but only brakes control left and right after that.
@27Zangle
@27Zangle 2 жыл бұрын
All Jeeps are holding your hand too much now. My mother has a 2018 Grand Cherokee and it is stable and safe but no fun whatsoever. Perfect for my elderly mother. Jeep is the new Oldsmobile!
@antoniovaldez8943
@antoniovaldez8943 2 жыл бұрын
There are used Foresters, a couple years old, that are more expensive than the new MSRP prices. Subarus have excellent resale values. In the winter or mud, I'd take the Subaru any day.
@johnnybyup
@johnnybyup 2 жыл бұрын
I love this new test. Can you do an Audi Q5 and an Acura RDX on this
@zolarmarquez
@zolarmarquez 2 жыл бұрын
Hey buddy I love seeing how a subaru kick the ass to so many cars
@Guidefer
@Guidefer 2 жыл бұрын
Ryan, could you do a Crosstrek sport vs Forester Wilderness comparison?! Same engine, same modes, one is lighter... Would love to know how they stack up off-road in real-world conditions!
@ZachMauch
@ZachMauch 2 жыл бұрын
Forester wilderness has Added CVT cooler, engine oil cooler, and lowered gearing. It should outperform the Crosstrek significantly. At least until the Crosstrek wilderness comes.
@Guidefer
@Guidefer 2 жыл бұрын
@@ZachMauch I agree with you, but would be awesome to see a real-world comparison, wouldn't it? The $8k difference in price, at least here in Canada, it's very tempting!
@wanglee21
@wanglee21 2 жыл бұрын
@@Guidefer Here will be the video for you. Wilderness is way more capable. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/nbycnMSnqpyRpJc.html
@Guidefer
@Guidefer 2 жыл бұрын
@@wanglee21 I appreciate that Karl, but those are totally different cars! They are testing the outback wilderness against the base Crosstrek! Outback has a 2.4 turbo engine while the base Crosstrek has a 2.0 NA with only 150hp, the outback has 9.5 inches of ground clearance while the Crosstrek has 8.7 and the base Crosstrek only has the first tier x-mode. The comparison between the Crosstrek sport (which is called "outdoor" in Canada) with the Forester wilderness is much closer! They share the same 2.5l 182hp engine, Crosstrek has 8.7 inches of ground clearance and the Forester wilderness has 9.2, and they both have the same 2 levels X-mode.
@groovymotion5706
@groovymotion5706 2 жыл бұрын
@@Guidefer I had a Crosstrek Sport 2016 and since it didn't have the X-mode you would be more like the Jeep, i.e. understeer and can't slide because as soon as the backend slides to a certain angle the system kicks in and brings back the car in a straight line.
@ukrainiansubarer7767
@ukrainiansubarer7767 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, this time Forester felt better 😁
@seanwatson3790
@seanwatson3790 2 жыл бұрын
This really shows the difference in off road tier wise between the compass and Cherokee trailhawks. I have the 2.0 turbo Cherokee trailhawk and apartment from having tons more power and torque, in sand mud mode I would have probably ended up spinning around where you couldn't get the back end to throw. Mine like unleashes it when I'm in that mode. It seems like a much better buy to get a base no option Cherokee trailhawk at the same price of a fully loaded compass one. Or close enough. I also didn't realize you couldn't select speed on that either. On the Cherokee you can go from .6 to like 5.6 every half mph on hill descent and crawl control. There are a lot more differences than I realized. And that's not even mentioning the locker til now. Still I like that one, and it's the same grey mine is and that's the best color
@KTMcaptain
@KTMcaptain 2 жыл бұрын
a locker is a huge advantage. So is having an actual low range and not just a 1st gear. Unfortunately both use power transfer units which is a weak point that wears down and can fail easily. A dedicated part time (capable) transfer case will not generate heat when distributing torque where it needs to go and won't wear down significantly over time. . But for small sub 40k crossovers, the Cherokee trailhawk has the best 4wd system.
@seanwatson3790
@seanwatson3790 2 жыл бұрын
@@KTMcaptain oh I know. I've had to replace my front ptu already, although to be fair I have wheeled it rather hard for a couple of years before that happened. I never noticed overheating issues in 4 low with it tho , even at altitude but when I was 4high I really did when I would climb. So I can imagine how much harder it is here. That said I get it is a weak point. Jeep made a really big mistake making the Cherokee trailhawk so capable that it would out drive it's durability long term. Specially with good tires and a small lift
@KTMcaptain
@KTMcaptain 2 жыл бұрын
@@seanwatson3790 Well, the Cherokee has a two speed rear diff, so I bet in low range it magnifies the PTU's strength by that ratio (ie a 2:1 will make the PTU twice as strong). . Yeah, they made an exceptionally capable vehicle. But to be fair, it's a "next level" capability for the Cherokee and had to work with the tech they had. . There is overlap in price between the Wrangler and Cherokee TH, but you get a pretty cruddy, albeit very capable wrangler, for the price of a very nice Cherokee. . So the choices are there, it just comes down to what one needs and it's not like the Subaru, the Cherokee can be rebuilt.
@seanwatson3790
@seanwatson3790 2 жыл бұрын
@@KTMcaptain you're absolutely right. I was looking at a 4 door Willy's Wrangler when I cross shopped, and the locker and better on road feel is why I picked mine over the more base model Wrangler . It's all about the balance and compromise you're willing to make , and nobody's right or wrong with it. That ptu does give it a 56/1. Or I think 2.72 to 1 crawl Ratio. I carry about 600 lbs static weight all the time and I've crawled up 13500 foot mtns in it and never felt a lack of power because of that. So it is what it is 🤷‍♂️
@BernonCars
@BernonCars 2 жыл бұрын
Ooo interesting fight!!
@jordanleblanc4052
@jordanleblanc4052 2 жыл бұрын
The jeep overheated because you had it in 4low and were revving it too high too long. The subaru doesn't have 4low.
@capnb15
@capnb15 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@lilpeppa117G
@lilpeppa117G 2 жыл бұрын
It's has a low crawl ratio on the cvt transmission and has xmode
@user-wv1sg4gz4h
@user-wv1sg4gz4h 2 жыл бұрын
It overheated because every Stellantis owned company churns out pure trash
@niuhuskieguy
@niuhuskieguy 2 жыл бұрын
It wasn't the transmission that overheated, it was the AWD that overheated. Subaru's AWD system has a completely different mechanical design from most others which gives it an advantage here. Also remember, the low range in this Compass is just 1st gear, its not a true low range.
@user-wv1sg4gz4h
@user-wv1sg4gz4h 2 жыл бұрын
@@niuhuskieguy Some brands have great track records due to superior manufacturing, others don't due to inferior manufacturing. Most Stellantis brands have been inferior for a long time now. They look cool, have all this supposed performance, but don't last 10 years.
@jcoats5529
@jcoats5529 2 жыл бұрын
Italy,Mexico,Brazil, China and India vs Japan. Subaru hands down.
@Natethegreat200c
@Natethegreat200c 2 жыл бұрын
Jeep hands down. Even with the “Japan” crap (which means nothing) Subarus have had major issues over the years. Same with Honda and Toyota . Not sure what Japan has to do with anything.
@jcoats5529
@jcoats5529 2 жыл бұрын
@@Natethegreat200c Japan has a long history of building some the best vehicles ever. Those others do not. That's what
@Natethegreat200c
@Natethegreat200c 2 жыл бұрын
@@jcoats5529 most reliable doesn’t mean best vehicles ever. The most boring vehicles come out of Japan. America and Germany has the BEST cars. Japan has the boring sometimes reliable ones
@borsh2002
@borsh2002 2 жыл бұрын
if the Subaru would have a low range (of course with a new adapted setting of the "lockers") and rock climb mode , it would be the perfect car for more than 95% of the needs a buyer can have, excepting the hard core off roaders for sure. New compass also strong , love it.
@user-jm5dw3gm8y
@user-jm5dw3gm8y 9 ай бұрын
It already satisfies 95% of off-roaders
@gunmetalblue6965
@gunmetalblue6965 6 ай бұрын
Bought this Forester because the transmission was taken out of the Ascent so not only does it have a revised final drive ratio for better off road performance but it also has a transmission cooler to help when taking on harder terrain. I traded in my Ford ranger Tremor and I've been happy since
@Doc1855
@Doc1855 2 жыл бұрын
Once in awhile I like getting our vehicles sideways while having fun
@tubemember21
@tubemember21 2 жыл бұрын
I would have liked to see the Compass try that last hill with snow mode enabled.
@rallysauruswrex
@rallysauruswrex 2 жыл бұрын
it wouldn’t have made it. snow mode limits wheel spin
@drivingsports
@drivingsports 2 жыл бұрын
I kind of thought we beat that into the ground. But yes, snow mode is useless in deep snow.
@27Zangle
@27Zangle 2 жыл бұрын
I have lived in Alaska for the last 15 years and before this Montana and some midwest states. Basically tons of ice and snow experience and with that time spent in the cold, I had the opportunity to drive a lot of newer cars with different modes. Snow mode in any vehicle is absolute garbage. Find the mode that does not limit your wheel spin and modulate the throttle yourself.
@justicecenter
@justicecenter 2 жыл бұрын
@@drivingsports you manipulate vehicles settings for your advantage of failures to only remark about Subaru after the fact.
@rdmz135
@rdmz135 2 жыл бұрын
@@justicecenter cope
@JonDZ_Adventuring
@JonDZ_Adventuring 2 жыл бұрын
The heat warning on the Jeep was the AWD system which uses a PTU (power transfer unit), it was not the transmission (and I know you didn't mention it was). Subaru's CVT heat warning happens at 270F, which is beyond damaging temps. I preach to people to spend $130 to purchase a scangauge II for full time transmission temperature monitoring. It would be interesting to see what temps are registering, would you consider putting scan gauge II's in all your long term test vehicles Ryan?
@xxxarmycop
@xxxarmycop 2 жыл бұрын
I believe the Wilderness comes with an upgraded tranny cooler
@JonDZ_Adventuring
@JonDZ_Adventuring 2 жыл бұрын
@@xxxarmycop I would expect that. The Ascent and Outback XT / Wilderness have upgraded transcoolers and are less prone to overheating, but everything will overheat when pushed. Especially when the wheels are constantly slipping. Transmission temp monitor > Cooler. It’s better to know what temp you’re really at than having a false sense of security with a transcooler. Case in point, many Subarus with aftermarket transcoolers have reported trans temps at 240-250F driving up our mountain passes here in California on a hot summers day. The Forester wilderness with stronger gear ratio and an oem cooling solution will probably be less prone to overheating, it would just be nice to know where those temps are at. I owned a 2015 FXT, and while driving in wet snow, I never got a trans temp warning, my CVT just melted. Maybe the sensor was covered in snow? Maybe a constant 260F over hours of snow driving did enough damage without triggering the temp warning? 🤷🏻‍♂️ I dunno.
@bobpurcell5662
@bobpurcell5662 2 жыл бұрын
Nice comparison. Can you set up another camera to track speed and include it into an inset video window?
@coots6890
@coots6890 Жыл бұрын
You can adjust the hill dissent control by switching your gear shifter to “M +\-“ the higher the gear the faster the dissent….
@StanVasilchuk
@StanVasilchuk 2 жыл бұрын
Overheated, damn well the Jeep Compass still made it up pretty high, still impressive! , I own a 2014 Jeep Compass and I love it!, I do have mazama all terrain tires on mine and they work great.
@alexeastman28
@alexeastman28 2 жыл бұрын
Likewise, I own a 2014 Jeep Compass Sport 4x4 w/ the CVT. It’s currently equipped with Falken Wildpeak H/T. I feel confidently planted to the ground.
@StanVasilchuk
@StanVasilchuk 2 жыл бұрын
@@alexeastman28 right on man!
@SternDikn
@SternDikn 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure how. I've gone through deep and steeper in my 2019 Compass lol
@robo08ify
@robo08ify 2 жыл бұрын
The Compass overheated because you kept the pedal pegged. You don’t want to do that with any vehicle on an incline that steep covered in that much snow.
@christopherbeddoe406
@christopherbeddoe406 Жыл бұрын
Wheel spin gets you through stuff. The compass overheated because the engine / transmission were battling against the brakes. All that energy has to go somewhere. The subaru let the Wheels spin and dig down to gravel to get it over the hill. If you could take the traction control off the compass and let he fly with 4wd it would have been fine.
@realrggod8737
@realrggod8737 9 ай бұрын
Subaru the only car that have never gotten me stuck no matter how high the snow. I owned a legacy 3.6r and a Forester I loved them both
@stephenhunt6253
@stephenhunt6253 Жыл бұрын
12:51 - "and, oops, I overheated" - LMAO!
@garypearson9756
@garypearson9756 2 жыл бұрын
My MY18 Crosstrek's cvt oil temp climbed to 238 f in the mountains of Utah last summer and never skipped a beat. 10k miles later it functions the same as it did when new. Plus, it is warrantied for 100k, so I don't see why so many people dis on the cvt. I guess, some people just don't like change.
@veganpotterthevegan
@veganpotterthevegan 2 жыл бұрын
I'd still get an extra transmission cooler if I were you. I'd be pissed having a transmission die before 150-180k.
@veganpotterthevegan
@veganpotterthevegan 2 жыл бұрын
Running one on my 4eat for piece of mind. 180k on the original 4eat(2006 Forester) and I have 242k on it now. But I put the trans cooler on as soon as I bought the thing
@CarnutMM
@CarnutMM 2 жыл бұрын
CVT’s suck. No actual gearing. For mileage go for CVT. For fun to drive or actual off roading stay away from a CVT.
@nathanwhitman4699
@nathanwhitman4699 2 жыл бұрын
@@veganpottertheveganjust make sure you change the fluid at the recommended interval according to maintenance drive. I believe it's 15k for offroading or hard snow use like in this video. Otherwise inspect quality and level every 30k and change as needed.
@veganpotterthevegan
@veganpotterthevegan 2 жыл бұрын
@@nathanwhitman4699 Some of the CVTs have "lifetime fluid" which is total nonsense. It will still help to have a cooler, and they're very cheap. Mine was $120.
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