"female" autism & borderline pd🌷

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Dr. Kim Sage, Licensed Psychologist

Dr. Kim Sage, Licensed Psychologist

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This video describes the most recent research around the often layered, and confusing, dynamics of presentations of both autism spectrum disorder and borderline personality disorder, and the emerging research around the "female autism phenotype"-- as it relates to both autism and bpd.
Autism, especially in high masking women and girls, is often misdiagnosed. Instead of seeing ASD, clinicians have often seen BPD. While both ASD and BPD can co-exist, (and because trauma, social/gender expectations and a true lack of knowledge and awareness among clinicians and research exists)- too many autistic women and girls have been misdiagnosed with BPD, under-diagnosed, minimized, ignored, etc - and have truly suffered as a result.
Additionally, while BPD appears to be present quite equally in both men and women, it has historically been primarily diagnosed as a "woman's disorder." Men tend to present BPD differently, and just like with ASD in women, we desperately need more research around the differing presentations for everyone.
Lastly, ANYONE (regardless of how you identify) can present with an autistic or bpd presentation that looks like "female autism" or what bpd has previously been described to look like in women.
Research articles used in this video:
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/arti... ASD and BPD individuals,difficulty controlling anger [15].
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/arti...
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/arti...
journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1...
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@chelrichardson3351
@chelrichardson3351
People in trauma can see through fake positivity . Your videos are very inviting because you don’t do the over the top long intro with fake smile … keep it real thankyou so much
@cherietillapaughhott1012
@cherietillapaughhott1012
You have no idea how grateful I am for this video, and for you, especially, in your "quest" to know more about autism/borderline/cptsd: I found myself crying midway through, realizing how different my life could have been if I had been diagnosed early, and had been able to receive the proper treatment. If I could have even been recognized as more than just a difficult, disobedient, disorganized, angry, dramatic child who could "turn it on" when necessary: I can only imagine how my relationship with my parents and siblings could have been different, even better.
@leilap2495
@leilap2495
RSD and c-PTSD make this murky. I was misdiagnosed myself. I was looking within for what I was doing, as encouraged by my therapy. Instead of calling out their toxicity, I was attempting to reach impossible and ever changing standards by my abuser.
@user-me6un7ih3r
@user-me6un7ih3r
And THEN, to complicate things even further how to separate (AND/OR distinguish existing comorbid) diagnoses, we have ADHD thrown in the mix, with its' overlapping similarities like for instance impulsivity, emotional dysregulation, Rejection Sensitivity Dysphoria (RSD), intense relationships(issues) and definetly being a trauma causing factor when un- or misdiagnosed. PLUS also the fact that Bipolar Disorder (BD) have many overlaps regarding the mood instabilities which often leads to a misdiagnosis or even get missed which can cause severe damage if not treated correctly. It's no wonder one can get lost in this jungle. Thank you Kim for sharing this important information and your work to sort all of this out ❤
@grand_air_trine_astro
@grand_air_trine_astro
I am twice diagnosed with ASD...one therapist suggested it was BPD however I am OBSESSIVELY studying certain subjects, can not hold 'normal' conversations. I stim/fidget, have cuddly toys to sleep with, am sensitive to light, always wear caps...none of these is BPD! I don't touch substence, no drink and am celibate...hardly what is linked with BPD.
@Coldnfallen
@Coldnfallen
Girls are made with sugar and spice, Barbie’s are plentiful and a dollhouse is nice with kitties and unicorns, too. Empathy drives their high masking eyes, and fear of doing anything wrong; rejection starts early.
@crossXFaed
@crossXFaed
Thank you, Dr. Kim. I am an autistic woman but I also want to understand BPD better as well. 🙏🏻 I look forward to future videos on BPD and how presentation can differ between males and females. It boggles my mind how ASD is wrongly assumed to be a male exclusive/dominant condition and BPD a female one. God bless you 🙏🏻💙
@user-qq5bj8mk6v
@user-qq5bj8mk6v
The example of your mother not able to apologize or not apologizing , is not something I recognize in my personal life with full blown-bpd , or in anyone else I know with BPD - in fact quite the opposite.
@LittleGrayMouse
@LittleGrayMouse
Well this is fascinating after watching the one about trauma and autism. I've been wondering about my daughter lately. I assumed her issue was autism, because she had some markers as a child but never diagnosed because she was also gifted and you know how that goes. My son was diagnosed very young though, with "severe autism" they called it back then mostly due to inability to communicate and he was just terribly dysregulated as a child. I know both of them are autistic, but my daughter sounds like she may have this borderline personality disorder as well. She has been through a lot of unfortunately self-induced trauma. She has so many scars and she seems to struggle with understanding why some of the things she says off-hand are terribly hurtful. And she's always apologetic but I feel like she never remembers next time. My son is far more careful with his words but he definitely struggles with ToM.
@carinaearl
@carinaearl
My mom is 1000% both. Autism runs in my family and my mom is diagnosed along with me. She was also severely abused and I'm learning that our relationship is textbook for bpd mom and daughter
@PrincessMicrowave
@PrincessMicrowave
Id like to hear someone with your education speak about the definition of personality. As far as I understand, psychology doesn't have a real good sturdy definition of what a personality is, how it is formed or how much it csn change. How does this affect the reliability of
@cielrobinson
@cielrobinson
I'm nonbinary, I personally don't identify as having any gender at all, but I was raised and am still socially percieved as female. In my opinion a more accurate and inclusive way to refer to what is usually termed "females with autism" might be "individuals socialized/raised as female". I think that the things we are encouraged/punished for doing, along with the differing acceptable treatment, expectations and responses from adults, between "boys" and "girls", from when we are infants, accounts for a majority of the differences between what people perceive as a male or female "phenotype" of autism.
@elliottrae9355
@elliottrae9355
Thank you, Dr. Kim, for all that you do and share with us!
@spottedfawn639
@spottedfawn639
Thank you for this. I'm glad you're still interested in this because I am too! Your series on this has helped me so much - this information over the past year has sent me down rabbit holes that have helped me understand myself and my family. Thank you! 💕
@grettamaeB
@grettamaeB
I love how cutting edge your content is! I enjoyed listening to your thought process about all of this and appreciate your disclaimers, wholistic perspective and willingness to share concepts as you learn about and come to better understand them. Thank you! ☺👍💓🙏
@LurkingLinnet
@LurkingLinnet
I'm so glad this is finally coming up, I had been theorizing and speculating this on my own for so long trying to put my puzzle pieces together and now to see this all backed up by research feels like a gift of god indeed. Thank you
@pippopyadontstop
@pippopyadontstop
As someone who suspects they have ASD, I really appreciate your content Dr. Kim. The more I learn about cptsd, bpd, asd...it's hard to untangle them all from each other. Things are very murky. Regardless I appreciate you educating us in your spare time as I likely won't pursue a formal diagnosis (due to cost) nor therapy (also due to cost). Thank you for everything you do ❤
@flyygurl18
@flyygurl18
Thank you Dr Kim for further developing further clarification and understanding; and also for bringing us along this very unique journey of self discovery. It really is fascinating to see how the way we are socialised (as girls) has shaped our development uniformly though with different contexts and a broad spectrum
@OTDMike67
@OTDMike67
Dr. Kim. Thank you so much for this information. I have an abundance of ASM traits, and am in a relationship with a BPD. While it seems an almost impossible mis-match of personalities, it is very helpful to see the traits of each and to learn. Peace and Blessings to you, and also to your viewers. Mike
@ANEE5AH
@ANEE5AH
Thank you for sharing this! ❤
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