Dynaudio Special Forty vs Evoke 20 - are the SP40's worth the extra money?

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Dynaudio Special Forty vs Evoke 20 - are the SP40's worth the extra money?

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George Dömse

Күн бұрын

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@amne20 4 ай бұрын

In addition to the comparison in this video I had the opportunity to compare them live. The Evoke are already good speakers but the SP40 are clearly superior in terms of deep and controlled bass, soundstage spatiality, beautiful mids and highs (thanks to the Esotar 40 tweeter). So I'm a very happy owner of Special Forty! Thanks Dynaudio!

@dusansubotic8060 6 ай бұрын

The difference is not as big as I would have expected....the treble/tweeter on the Specials is more refined making the sound more lively and energetic while the Evoke has a darker tone overall but I would be happy to listen to either set of speakers

@s37en_gr Жыл бұрын

I was torn between the two and auditioned them in a fully treated room with my amp (at the time Hegel H120). Both were not broken in, brand new from a sealed box opened in front of me. I must say, the difference in real life is much bigger than the audio in this video suggests (not your fault of course George - i enjoy your comparisons). The SP40 were in a completely different league, the air and clarity on top end and mids were nowhere near the Evokes. I went to audition them aaalmost convinced that the SP40 were charging for the fancy finish and was not really prepared to pay 800 euro premium for that alone. Came back home that same day with the SP40. In fact , SP40 was much closer in performance to Contour 20i ( at about 5k euros) than the Evokes.

@georgedomse Жыл бұрын

Can't add anything to that. Exactly my experience.

@marcusaurelius2988 Жыл бұрын

@@georgedomsewhich ones sound warmer , in your opinion?

@s37en_gr 10 ай бұрын

@@marcusaurelius2988 Evokes sounded warmer, but not in a good way in my opinion. Just more veiled and rolled off in the top end compared to SP40, which is an already slighlty warm speaker, but with much better clarity than the Evokes.

@UntamedGorillaX 7 ай бұрын

@@s37en_gr how do these perform at low volume and are the s40s and Evokes easy to drive with an average AVR?

@s37en_gr 7 ай бұрын

@@UntamedGorillaX The Special 40s perform really well at low volumes - mostly due to their airy and finessed treble , far better than the Elac Carina I had before them. But , this is also dependant on the source/amplifier. With the Hegel H120 I had when I got them, they performed really well at low volumes, but after upgrading to Accuphase E380 with a quality external streamer, the clarity went to a whole new level and low volume performance along with it. That being said, please do not pair the 40s with an AVR, they are high quality speakers that require currents and grip to perform. Even the evokes would be bottlenecked by an AVR.. just my 2 cents.

@cafiveohsrockbandremix9254 Жыл бұрын

This is a tough one as they both sound really good. I'm sure the difference in person is much more pronounced, but the S40's seem just a slight bit more airy and detailed. On top of that, the S40 looks so much classier than the Evokes, which are quite the lookers themselves.

@apmihai82 Жыл бұрын

i detect a higher 3k-6k Hz tuning on the SP40. It creates this feeling of airiness and more micro detail that eh Evoke can't muster. The difference is not night and day but it is clear to hear. Maybe some will prefer the Evoke for longer listening sessions, and others are quite sensitive to this sound spectrum where the SP40 shine. Are the Evokes objectively worse than the SP40? I'd say no, just a different flavour. So what's your day to day setup now GD?

@amourtiger5018 7 ай бұрын

The 40th anniversary is currently in use. I think SP40 is too edgy for a certain band. My ears are so tired ㅠㅠ The amplifier is Gryphon Attila.

@tfomah Жыл бұрын

To my ears, the Evokes wins in terms of soundstage, bass and natural portrayal of the sound. Mind you, I've owned both these speakers and had to return the SP40 back as it lacks a little bit for me. Kept the Evokes and have owned them for 3 years, and now upgrading to the Evoke 50s. BTW we'll done George.

@georgedomse Жыл бұрын

In my room the soundstage of the SP40 is clearly superior, especially in depth. Bass is more from the Evoke, but better defined on the SP40. I absolutely see the appeal of the Evoke, but once properly run in, the SP40 are more 'audiophile' while the Evoke are more 'party'.

@tt-zone1447 Жыл бұрын

Today I compared these acoustic systems... I agree with you completely. Evoke is warmer, more natural and more pleasant. For me, the winner is Evoke.

@marcusaurelius2988 8 ай бұрын

I am in the market for the Evoke 50s but I was told to be careful with the room size.The idea is that they need a really large room to shine? How is your experience with the Evoke 50s and the room size?

@Rascallucci 7 ай бұрын

I was sure I was going to get the Special 40 until I wasn't when I went straight to the Evoke 50. I just couldn't resist that sense of scale. The Evoke in general is an all-rounder, but the Evoke 50 is definitely the gem of the range. Don't bother with the 30 unless you really have a tiny room, if not just go for the 50, you won't regret it.

@Rascallucci 7 ай бұрын

@@marcusaurelius2988 No, not unless you live in a matchbox, if not is not an issue. I love my Evoke 50, you just can't beat that sense of scale.

@philthomas8351 9 ай бұрын

Very useful comparison. Thanks for posting. I have one Dynaudio speaker so far. Sounds very good.

@sccanj Ай бұрын

Sounds better with two, in stereo

@bod140k Жыл бұрын

Difference is fantastic!

@cezarjipa72 Жыл бұрын

Evokes have a bigger driver and it shows. In bigger rooms, over 25 sqm maybe, Evokes are inevitably superior, it's just physics. In rooms up to 20 sqm SP40 offer the best of both worlds - clearer midrange, better controlled bass. I can't stress this enough - room size is always crucial, the only link in the sound chain that you can't change. There will be always a big difference in SPL between 5,25 -6- 6,5 and 7 inch drivers - and adding a sub to a 5,25 inch stereo set up will not make it suitable for a, say, 25 sqm room. Also, driver membrane material matters - if your ears can't stand metal you'll always hate LS50/R3, no matter what the measurements tell ya.

@skavcic 2 ай бұрын

Evokes don't have a bigger driver.

@cezarjipa72 2 ай бұрын

@@skavcic The Evokes have a 7 inch midwoofer, while SP40 have a 6.5 inch one.

@pinkypoohable Ай бұрын

It’s clear from the first tract that the Evoke 20 has a rolled off treble. It’s like they put a veil over it.

@teknolojigundemi 10 ай бұрын

Good comparison. What amp you are using and what is good for dynaudio speakers, low sensivity and ohm.

@grigorovrz Жыл бұрын

+1 for evoke

@jari121 Жыл бұрын

Yes.

@adamhindle9215 Жыл бұрын

Perfect George! Just what I've been waiting for. The Evokes are certainly cleaner and more refined, to my ears. But the SP40s maybe have a tad more energy as a result. The argument is that the Evokes are a newer (and therefore better) design, whereas a good portion of the SP40's price is the cabinet itself.

@georgedomse Жыл бұрын

Tbh in reality the Evoke have more highs that give you the impression of clarity first. But in the end, the SP40 have more detail and air, a bigger soundstage in every direction (especially depth) and can create a 3D-sound the Evoke can not match. Where the Evoke's take the cake is the amount of bass and 'size of sound'. They simply sound bigger (because they ARE bigger), thus convey classical music better, giving you a better sense of scale of the orchestra. The bass brings them out on top for electronical music, too. For everything else I like the Special Forty more.

@Doughny Жыл бұрын

@@georgedomse going to audition both of these tomorrow, what a coincidence. Did you ever try the S40 with a sub?

@thomascumiskey3595 Жыл бұрын

@@georgedomse this is actually a really succinct summary of the differences thats useful to a potential purchaser, because the description of the differences proceeds to how to choose based on the type(s) of music (they) like. ie it's insightful but also practical and actionable. well done. subscribed.

@georgedomse Жыл бұрын

@@Doughny thanks and no. My room is really small (10sqm max), a sub may be overkill here. But I heard others doing it to great effect.

@bikemike1118 Жыл бұрын

And there we have the same old mistake in thinking again…or another victim of marketing: thinking that a speaker must be better because it’s a later/ newer product. That’s what only greenhorns think!

@Cyriljayant 10 ай бұрын

Very difficult to see a different for me. both sounds good S40 is on the more classic side and a bit more refined for me for my ears!!!!.

@bogdantirea6085 5 ай бұрын

The Evoke have in some portions a weaker spectrum. As you listen at a old phone speaker.

@MrMattyk55 Жыл бұрын

Any chance of doing the Sonus Faber sonetto ii vs Dynaudio special forty? I like them both but can't decide between them. I'm unable to demo them in the same room on the same gear. Also, I have enjoyed all your comparisons so far. They sound better than others that I have listened to through my headphones You must have a great set-up. Cheers.

@georgedomse Жыл бұрын

I really don't like the SF sound signature, so most probably I won't have any of them here. To me, all SF speakers in the low to mid tier price league have way too hot treble. For me, either Dyno or KEF are the ones I liked the most so far.

@MrMattyk55 Жыл бұрын

@George Dömse that's fair enough George. Thanks for the reply and keep up the good work. 👍

@bod140k Ай бұрын

@@georgedomseCompared to Dyno, KEFs has a lack of highs on my ear

@roybrolsbeak Жыл бұрын

thanks for making this video. the movie part could have been a bit more exciting to compare :D

@t0nyxgq Жыл бұрын

I hear that the heritage is better yet than the SP40s and the HS are worth double price. Anyone has any experience to confirm?

@georgedomse Жыл бұрын

The HS are two leagues above the SP40. Better in every aspect (control of the low- and high band, soundstage, imaging, positioning etc). However, if that is worth twice as much... I mean are the SP40 worth twice as much as the Evoke20? Hard to say. Depends on your wallet.

@JangHeeHan-ze3lf 4 ай бұрын

Hmmm… I think the sp40 has a more refined sound. For classical music lovers, which one do you recommend? Volume doesn’t matter but for the sound quality.

@Pinio7063227 3 ай бұрын

I have a Hegel H390, I wonder which of these two Dynaudio speakers will sound better. evoke I heard uniti nova with us and I liked it very much because it played with midrange and was not tiring, I could listen to it for hours. I listen to aria 948hg every day. but the special 40 ones seem to be good too.

@shaunyweaver1144 Жыл бұрын

Forty has it, the evoke better on metal.. Happy with either, is it worth the extra ? For me and money no probs - yes . Great recording on my phones ..

@harrisedgar Жыл бұрын

That's it...!!!! I'm subscribing rigth now...!!! Hahahaha.... (. I woul love to see you compare the Sonus faber's, in particular the Amatur collection)

@georgedomse Жыл бұрын

Thanks :) Well, I tried some 'cheap' Sonus Fabers, I did not like them. The Amators seem to be pretty highly regarded, but they are expensive a.f. - even the Minima is more expensive then the SP40's. Based on my experience with SF so far, I could not justify their price, yet. (since everything you hear on this channel has been bought with my own money, you know)

@harrisedgar Жыл бұрын

@@georgedomse I didn't know you bought the gear... Wow..!!! Now I'm impressed (and jealous.. Hahahaha...). Well George, I still adore the parings you've put togather so far and I'll be on the look-out for the ones than come, this channel has tested precisely the gear I wanted to compare. Thank you so much for your time and effort (moner too).

@Marius.1926 Жыл бұрын

Nice video man!. Hove you compare the Evoke vs the Ls50 Meta ?

@georgedomse Жыл бұрын

Not side-by-side, no. Very different sound though - even more different than what you hear in my other video (SP40 vs LS50 Meta).

@higobatman Жыл бұрын

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@georgedomse Жыл бұрын

@@higobatman yepp, but that's the Evoke10 - I guess Mario was curious about the Evoke20's vs the Meta.

@higobatman Жыл бұрын

@@georgedomse What is the difference between the Evoke 10 and 20?

@marcusaurelius2988 8 ай бұрын

George, have you heard the Evoke 50s? Do they need a really large room to shine?@@georgedomse

@albertosilva1076 Жыл бұрын

A nice finish never made any audio product special! But understand that eyes may be more important than ears for some. Thanks for your comparisons.

@Kamal67811 Жыл бұрын

The large voice coil in SP40's makes the difference

@perczeg Жыл бұрын

SP40. Clear, natural. The Evoke pales in comparison to the SP40. Try a larger (minimum Elex-R) Rega amp for the Dynaudio. 👍

@georgedomse Жыл бұрын

This is a Hegel H190. In what term would be an Elex-R bigger? (mind you, I don't like the rega sound, highs are too much for me, even on the Elicit-R that I had here)

@gritsooooooooo 8 ай бұрын

What's the different

@georgedomse 8 ай бұрын

Size, construction, drivers, binding posts, cabling, crossover and sound. Basically averything.

@delatronics3257 2 ай бұрын

The Evoke sounded better and was more crisp

@zeroone4497 Жыл бұрын

Have you a way test contour vs sp40 :)

@georgedomse Жыл бұрын

I did already but decided to not shoot a video. The Contour 20i was just too calm and laid back for me. Really audiophile, but it was like a velvet glove. Every touch is just soft and friendly, even when agressivity would have been necessary. Also, its a damn huge speaker.

@cremersalex 11 ай бұрын

Evoke has a safer, rolled-off sound.

@kupriyan_mix5506 Жыл бұрын

Супер

@skavcic 2 ай бұрын

SP40 sounds much better than Evoke. Driver quality is much better in SP40.

@audiojunior174 Жыл бұрын

exorbitant differences in quality and definition between the speakers...SP40's light years ahead of the Evoke, I was going to buy a pair of Evoke, I'm glad I gave up... if someone didn't notice significant differences between the two or even preferred the Evoke, it's time for this "someone" to change the method/system of listening to demos, or urgently do an audiometry 😂

@steven2809 6 ай бұрын

No....😊

@sinaniseri6575 3 ай бұрын

Evoke 20 sounds more natural

@dobieprime Ай бұрын

thats what I heard. the SP40 sounded REALLLLL airy. Almost B&W kind of air which, after a while can be shrill in the treble and a pain to listen to for a long time. If that is the definition of "audiophile" I am not one.

@MrVoayer Жыл бұрын

Nope !

@paulniel4297 2 ай бұрын

Yes.

@JangHeeHan-ze3lf 4 ай бұрын

Hmmm… I think the sp40 has a more refined sound. For classical music lovers, which one do you recommend? Volume doesn’t matter but for the sound quality.

@JangHeeHan-ze3lf 4 ай бұрын

Hmmm… I think the sp40 has a more refined sound. For classical music lovers, which one do you recommend? Volume doesn’t matter but for the sound quality.