Easy Foamboard Wing Airfoil: the Basic Version

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Experimental Airlines

Experimental Airlines

12 жыл бұрын

Part 0 (a basic intro to the Armin Wing concept). A really quick and simple way to build an actual airfoil for an RC airplane wing. For a rectangular wing it's at least as easy to make and as strong as a KF airfoil and has the proven high-lift design approximating the "Clark-Y" airfoil used on many real and RC airplanes. Videos to follow will include improvements that take a little extra time but will make the wing more aerodynamic, water resistant, and have an integral control surface for flaps and ailerons. This is just the wing construction - overall airplane design is up to the builder!
Here is where I get my colored packing tape:
www.tapebrothers.com/Colored-C...

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@28th_St_Air
@28th_St_Air Жыл бұрын
Was just taking a KZfaq stroll down memory lane to revisit where I started building planes and Armin wings 11 years ago. Thanks for the inspiration and enjoyment I have had with RC planes that you inspired. It’s great to see all the views this vid has gotten.
@mohammedhgaze7010
@mohammedhgaze7010 Жыл бұрын
Excuse me, what is the material that this man used in the video?
@nitro898
@nitro898 5 жыл бұрын
I have just recently started building my own rc planes and found this channel. The basics that you have shown my are awesome. I have build 3 different size planes with multiple different wing configurations for each fuselage. It has given me something to do during the winter here in Pa. Thanks, now the snow has to melt so that I can start flying more!
@middayenglishman6003
@middayenglishman6003 4 ай бұрын
Doing the same in the UK.
@mwc66
@mwc66 3 жыл бұрын
I built 2 planes with this same wing and covered it with packing tape . They fly brilliant. The best wings I have ever built, well done Edd, thanks for showing
@mohammedhgaze7010
@mohammedhgaze7010 Жыл бұрын
Excuse me, what is the material that this man used in the video?
@RCPrairieFlyyer
@RCPrairieFlyyer 12 жыл бұрын
Fantastic videos and easy to follow. I built my very first Armin wing today and WOW, I can't find the words to express how well your build techiniques worked. In Canada, it is of course winter now and with your helpful videos, my friends and I will have a new plane to fly in the snow.
@Senor0Droolcup
@Senor0Droolcup 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this! My little son has been pestering me to build a wing that would actually generate lift. He tried to make one out of cardboard, but of course it's not the right material. Now I can at least build a wing with him!
@rahultej4317
@rahultej4317 2 жыл бұрын
Aww
@torritoist
@torritoist 11 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your well thought out video. You display a superior format in these productions that is so helpful to those of us who are serious in learning about R/C topics. Bravo!
@bidkid2020
@bidkid2020 12 жыл бұрын
I've watched a few of your videos & wanted to thank you for the amount of information you share. I would like to watch more of your videos on building foam wings if you could direct me on the easiest way to find them. You really do give a good presentation. Thanks again.
@jackjuhasz533
@jackjuhasz533 2 ай бұрын
watching your videos since day 1 you have made a major contribution to the hobby for young and old ! god bless you 😀. i'm 78 and still learning, ... clear skies and fair winds - jos 731
@ExperimentalAirlines
@ExperimentalAirlines 12 жыл бұрын
@RCPrairieFlyyer That's great to hear! I hope we can see your creation soon. I wish you blue skies and warm fingers!
@gman4229
@gman4229 11 жыл бұрын
this the easiest way to make wings I have found so far,dollar tree down the street from my home picked up some foam and in five mins. I had a wing all ready to go,thanks for all those videos
@RCFlyer007
@RCFlyer007 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for an excellent video! Very well done and straight to the point without a lot of dancing and music LOL. Looking forward to finding some more of your videos
@DobyxRC
@DobyxRC 10 жыл бұрын
Just found your channel and have turned off my TV and am going through your videos :-) I have just started foam building with a MickeysRC unit that is giving me motor thrust angle issues and in search of education I found you. Thank you for the information, I will pay it forward.
@heckyes
@heckyes 11 жыл бұрын
I dunno if Google just did some kind of update to the algorithm that finds content that I'm interested in but lately I have found sooo many new channels that are awesome. This is one of em!
@SEVNTIGERS
@SEVNTIGERS 2 жыл бұрын
Great technique! Thanks dude for sharing. I just started using a similar technique for a 120" span glider I'm building. Love using the foam board & hot glue.
@carstensonderskov
@carstensonderskov 12 жыл бұрын
Hi and thanks for your replay....I'm digging in to it... Happy flying. Chers Carsten
@geraldsmith8878
@geraldsmith8878 10 жыл бұрын
All I can say is ... WOW... very ingenious. Thanks for your time and skills.
@ExperimentalAirlines
@ExperimentalAirlines 12 жыл бұрын
Yes, with a carbon arrow shaft for a spar I can confidently recommend this wing for heavy planes and aggressive flight. I have an "aerobatic" motorglider with a 60" wingspan that I abuse pretty frequently with high-G maneuvers and it only causes a small crease in the upper wing skin near the root. My 60" wingspan Skyvan II weighs 9 pounds all up, with cargo, and does well with one carbon arrow spar and wing struts.
@tavi3938
@tavi3938 7 жыл бұрын
This is genius. Ive seen people hot wire cut airfoils but i find folded airfoils easier to make. I kind of developed my own folded wing wich is a mix between this and flitetest styled wings. Hopefully i can make a video on it soon.
@guidokuhn1275
@guidokuhn1275 6 жыл бұрын
Great public site, especially for beginners alike myself, thanks to the individuals and You Tube. Keep up the good work! !!!
@dolan008
@dolan008 7 жыл бұрын
Nice, I am justing starting to work with foam board and thought your VIDEO was Great!! Im trying to build a ULTIMATE with Foam Board and this method of making a wing is the ticket for me!! Thanks!!
@Donatillo1961
@Donatillo1961 8 жыл бұрын
Awesome work ! I do a similar thing but thinner strips. The strength seems to come from my tape even better !
@gtripe
@gtripe 12 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Well presented, clear, concise and with all the important details. Well done!
@QF2653
@QF2653 2 жыл бұрын
I've found that peeling off the paper and using a hairdryer to bend it works perfect, no kinks. Then cover with tape. Also if you look at airplane wings the leading edge is always "Chubby".
@roddraym
@roddraym 8 жыл бұрын
Wow! That was pretty simple. Thank you and more please!!!!
@whoreha1828
@whoreha1828 10 жыл бұрын
I made 2 of these and they turned out REALLY nice! Thanks for all the great videos- I finally subscribed after watching so many and how impressive my wings turned out. When are you going to have another contest? Love some of the entries! Thanks again!
@pilotbaker11
@pilotbaker11 9 жыл бұрын
Had to subscribe... Just saved me a whole lot of money on making my own wings. Thank you!!!
@buzz60016
@buzz60016 10 жыл бұрын
ExperimentalAirlines - Thank you for posting educational and entertaining "build videos" These are so excellent..........
@wfieldzz
@wfieldzz 9 жыл бұрын
You're great man! really nice and well done videos, specially for someone like me that is trying to built my first RC plane from scratch. I'll do it and let you know the results, but keep them coming please. Thanks for you time.
@Salty_Ocean
@Salty_Ocean 2 жыл бұрын
Results ?
@kenwebster5053
@kenwebster5053 5 жыл бұрын
Almost 40 years ago, about 12 yo I built a balsa control line trainer without plans using almost the same method. Of course Balsa can't be so easily bent around the leading edge (LE) radius like foam can. So, I just used 2 sheets of 1.5 mm balsa, glued a strip along the edge of one sheet and planed down the top of that strip at an angle. Then glued the other sheet to the angled top of the strip. This formed the LE. Next I just brought the 2 other edges of the sheets together with glue to form the trailing edge (TE). Added tip plates, attached a flap to the TE and sanded the LE round. That's it, no internal structure. Added a stick fuselage, tail surfaces, OS Pet 1.5cc glow plug engine and external controls etc. It was good because I had struggled with a stunt model that I couldn't master. This simple, quick and easy build and got me flying CL on the 1st time attempt. So thanks for bringing back the memories.
@mellyspapa
@mellyspapa 4 жыл бұрын
Very informative! Great job! Thanks for posting this.
@Prokitesurf
@Prokitesurf 10 жыл бұрын
Great video, thanks for taking the time to do this. There are so many ways I can see that can be done to reinforce this, awsome. Probably easy to add a channel for carbon spar etc. Also wanted to mention the use of the laminating film for covering, low heat easy and really cheap stuff.. Again great explination and thanks for taking the time to share..
@RCSQUADRON
@RCSQUADRON 10 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this video! I will try to make my first wing using your method and materials.
@septik101
@septik101 9 жыл бұрын
That's so cool looks simple and I've got to try it. Now I'm going to be able to build moor or less any plane i want. Thanks
@SirCutBurner
@SirCutBurner 11 жыл бұрын
THese are great. Ive been using the 'electrifly' brand hobby foam (very light x surface tension loading) and 'ribbing' conventional rib style build with a single carbon fiber main spar...made a 2-meter wing with 9 inch chord and 1.5 inch thick rib profile...(clark - Y flat bottomed airfoil) even added "twist out" camber at each wingtip for minimizing tip stalls. Whole wing with 2 mini servos for ailerons/flapperons weighs a couple ounces. Yea...wing loading is super light, but its a light plane.
@user-yc7sg7xj4f
@user-yc7sg7xj4f 8 ай бұрын
I guess if this concept would be upscaled, you could even make very large drone wings with that. Like using Epp board with a thin glass layer.
@sailorjohn2224
@sailorjohn2224 8 жыл бұрын
Haven't seen much of Ed lately, miss his great training videos.
@pittly54
@pittly54 10 жыл бұрын
Great video. Looking forward to seeing more.. Thanks
@ardenbolton5992
@ardenbolton5992 8 жыл бұрын
BRILLIANT. GREAT JOB.
@karim1485
@karim1485 10 жыл бұрын
Thank you that you give american AND european data (grams & oz) :D
@capoiosct
@capoiosct 6 жыл бұрын
when?
@harleyme3163
@harleyme3163 4 жыл бұрын
notta clue but it has to be a lot lighter then my all balsa and 1/32" spruce plywood plane.. but mine have actual structure inside the wing.. (2 1/4" thick spruce bars down the entire wing and ribs to keep the form of the wing.... how real aircraft are made :-\ ... 3 months build time for a 60 inch wingspan plane :-\.. think I'm try this stuff.
@OCMAMY
@OCMAMY 12 жыл бұрын
Necessity is ""THE MOTHER of ALL INVENTION"! Keep up the GOOD Work
@josephmolinari1
@josephmolinari1 11 жыл бұрын
nice to see you willing to help your viewers.
@kamacoz9738
@kamacoz9738 9 жыл бұрын
Great job man! Thank you for the info.
@Boot2yourHead
@Boot2yourHead 12 жыл бұрын
Keep'em coming great stuff this is just what i needed to see.
@nickmalone3599
@nickmalone3599 4 жыл бұрын
Great video, just came into my feed. Going to try it.
@WarrenCay
@WarrenCay 12 жыл бұрын
Great clear instruction and method, please post more on any good ideas you have.
@jtuttle11
@jtuttle11 12 жыл бұрын
Outstanding construction idea. I see potential for taper airfoils and larger wings.
@MicahBurginGTVPO
@MicahBurginGTVPO 9 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this technique.... I hope to use this technique and cover it with foil tape to make my planes. I want to make my plane bodies from metal (I'm very familiar with metalwork as of yet, not at all with foam) but I need something to make wings.
@Playboyjoeshmoe
@Playboyjoeshmoe 5 жыл бұрын
I'm planning a faux Telemaster in foam. I think a 7" chord 4 foot span will be nice and I will likely use flaps so the thing can back up in the wind.
@muhammadaleemkhan4011
@muhammadaleemkhan4011 6 жыл бұрын
I am feeling bad because of your hand. And you are doing a fine work. I wish you everything good in your life.
@poppasmurf63
@poppasmurf63 8 жыл бұрын
Awesome job. Thanx for passing this info on...
@darkpa1ad1n
@darkpa1ad1n 11 жыл бұрын
Thank you this has helped me and my father greatly.
@wx9dx
@wx9dx 9 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see how you add dihedral to the wing using foam board? Thanks Jimmy, ARRL TS, WX9DX
@ExperimentalAirlines
@ExperimentalAirlines 10 жыл бұрын
I follow that. I do use something like that for the leading edge of horizontal and vertical stabilizers. I see how it could work for the trailing edge of a wing, or maybe squish it up into the hinge of the control surface. Give it a try and let us know how it works out.
@GameRickster
@GameRickster 8 жыл бұрын
nice!.. thanks for my winter projects.
@keithf676
@keithf676 11 жыл бұрын
Like your videos. keep up the good work. You just opened my eyes to alot. Thanks
@lucascoleman1245
@lucascoleman1245 8 жыл бұрын
looks great thanks do you have any more previous info i might need to know on this project?
@AlbertLebel
@AlbertLebel 9 жыл бұрын
By the way, the foam board I bought to make my fuselage with I got from Lowes home improvement. I got a 4x8 ft x 3/4 thick for about $10 Its blue and its super light but very rigid.
@AlbertLebel
@AlbertLebel 9 жыл бұрын
Dude, thats great. Thanks for sharing. Im in the process of building my first foamie. I own a few super cubs and that the basic style Im going to build. I already made a great fuselage and now your wing idea will be next. Thanks again. By the way, I see you made several, have you used any and flown any.
@Captainziadkhan
@Captainziadkhan 3 жыл бұрын
your videios are so to the point . nice job
@pyrusrex2882
@pyrusrex2882 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video. I've been building foamboard hand gliders for my kids, and apparently I wasn't smart enough to do this. I've been sandwiching 2 or 3 identical pieces together with glue and hand sanding the airfoil shape out of it. Not quite as efficient as your method, and yours is certainly lighter to boot.
@walkeranewbie
@walkeranewbie 10 жыл бұрын
just picked up some adams board at the local dollar tree. i plan to make this wing. thanks for the video !
@TheEarthandyou
@TheEarthandyou 10 жыл бұрын
I am quite interested in experimenting with wing designs and slow speed flying. This gives a great opportunity. Great video. I think you are onto something. ha ha OK up to something. Happy landings.
@jawadanwar6684
@jawadanwar6684 6 жыл бұрын
Man you are really great. This video helped lot. Thanks!
@vdubbub1986
@vdubbub1986 12 жыл бұрын
Dude!!! That is awesome!
@TheEarthandyou
@TheEarthandyou 10 жыл бұрын
Very cool. Be great to see a glider, or self launching glider made from this. Plus I have some softer blue foam that might be fun to try. The sky is the limit
@ExperimentalAirlines
@ExperimentalAirlines 12 жыл бұрын
@Snoppus Hey, that's a brilliant idea! Did you also tape the outer surface of the bend? If you can describe it a little, and define the depth of material removed, maybe I can add a Depron version video.
@alkorsonj1218
@alkorsonj1218 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. I learned a lot. When building a propeller plane, what is the recommended wing span to length of plane ratio? Thanks.
@neutrno
@neutrno 7 жыл бұрын
What about wing spar ? Do you put e.g. carbon wing spar in the wings when you assemble it on fuselage ? Anyway, good video and well explained.
@alexherrera3918
@alexherrera3918 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video tutorial. What is the smallest size of wing for this method to be effective? Thanks Alex
@ExperimentalAirlines
@ExperimentalAirlines 12 жыл бұрын
I recommend starting with the video entitled: "ARMIN WING CONSTRUCTION: start-to-finish process with links to detail videos", which has embedded links for each of the sub-steps.
@ExperimentalAirlines
@ExperimentalAirlines 11 жыл бұрын
It's a complicated question, but as a general rule 1:1 will nearly always do you right if your vertical and horizontal stabilizers are adequately large, like 10% and 20% of wing area, respectively. A 1:0.75 wing:fuselage ratio is still pretty good, same concept applies about making the tail surfaces generous. I have personally never gone past a 1:0.67 ratio and made the stabilizers plenty big, and needed active rudder control to fly. I'm sure there are entire books on this subject. Cheers!
@felixromero5907
@felixromero5907 4 жыл бұрын
hey man I love this video ! good job.. I have a question?? how called this kind of tape?? thank u ..
@RSBSTEADICAM
@RSBSTEADICAM 10 жыл бұрын
If you can run the foam inside the foil shape upright on edge you will substantially increase the wing strength.
@gabec2494
@gabec2494 2 жыл бұрын
Fill with expanding foam and carve off the excess. Making something similar with my son using aluminum flashing for a windmill airfoil
@aracknoid3
@aracknoid3 11 жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing this. I'm very new ti this and I want to learn all I can. This is very helpful. Ill be looking for more :)
@guloguloguy
@guloguloguy 10 жыл бұрын
Back in the 1970's there was a small one man 'ultralight' powered aircraft called the "Cri-Cri". It was built using some kind of similar (ultra simple, yet ultra strong methods and materials, and it might be worth researching , to find out if there might be some lessons to learn on how to build precise, yet super strong wings, (or even rotor blades?)! I remember an article about it saying that the builders 10 year old daughter built the wings for the plane, and that it involved using some kind of 'vacuum cleaner' to help hold everything in place (like a crude 'vacuum-bagging' technique) though the wings were made of thin metal, over a foam core, (perhaps with an aluminum tube, as a central spar)? [Thanks!]
@IdeologieUK
@IdeologieUK 11 жыл бұрын
Hey Ed, just inspired to follow one of your designs and starting here at the basic wing. I'm planning an FPV Night Flyer with forgiving characteristics and payload for Go Pro, Flight Cam, OSD, AP and I'd say 3S 2200 lipo should be fine with maybe a 1300KV motor and 9X6 prop. Which of your fleet would you suggest? Many thanks - love that Burning Man video btw... :)
@ExperimentalAirlines
@ExperimentalAirlines 11 жыл бұрын
I would be happy to help YOU do such a video, and I think it's an excellent project! Let me know how I might help or sponsor you.
@chuckypilotaus3962
@chuckypilotaus3962 9 жыл бұрын
I'm keen to know more about the control surfaces and how to integrate them.
@harleyme3163
@harleyme3163 4 жыл бұрын
the basis behind it is to change the lift to. faster airflow over one or the other side literally pulls it that way. as for the size of the surface... thats complicated aeronautical engineering. but any case, no less then 1/4 length of wing and no more then the whole wing... how long it is,, up in the air depending on type of airfoil. but if you make it to big they flutter at higher speed and screw up speed... lol not to mention the servo might not be strong enough to move it when the wind is pushing on it... locking you controls up = slow speed nah... but high speed uh oh. no control..
@KaffiFlight
@KaffiFlight 10 жыл бұрын
Hello from Germany. I like your videos, especially watching you experiments and techniques witch cheap foamboard-constructions gave me new insights in the hobby (I am doning that for nearly 40 years now). I want to do a twinboom this winter for FPV with this way of construction. Question: Did you ever build a biconvex Arminwing? Greetings from GER.
@Cork42044
@Cork42044 12 жыл бұрын
Great wing. I will be building some of these I am going to put it on the Puddle Monster to see how it flys over the build up wing.that is in the plans this is a lot easier to build. Thanks, PS do you have plans for the C-69 cargo dropper? Duane
@letvalentino100
@letvalentino100 6 жыл бұрын
Да, хорошее видео! Очень интересная идея изготовления крыла, спасибо!
@learningpower9437
@learningpower9437 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video!!! ...I have two questions... 1) This airfoil is flat at one side and with a maximum thickness at 30 % from the leading edge...would you consider this airfoil like a clark Y as shown here : en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clark_Y_airfoil ? 2) When you install this airfoil in your RC model at what angle is installed from the horizontal ? Thanks!!!
@MonacoBlast
@MonacoBlast 11 жыл бұрын
This is so great!
@ExperimentalAirlines
@ExperimentalAirlines 11 жыл бұрын
No NACA airfoil specifically, though it comes out to about a 5410. It's a good all-purpose airfoil but does have a flat bottom. The ease of build is the real attraction and it works pretty well on RC with low Reynolds numbers and the ample power we use. There is the possibility of making symmetrical and semi-symmetrical wings but making a well-matched pair can be tedious.
@drcuffe
@drcuffe 12 жыл бұрын
I love this channel, flitetest sent me here :0)
@booger37391
@booger37391 4 жыл бұрын
thx ,.... im seen most your videos and FT videos... still trying get a wing that's very slow/ stable for videos. im using the ft exployer frame-thinking put your type 7 inch wing on it! maybe 4 formers and shaved more on edges and tapered trail ends .. no flaps... just 3 channel. /smooth flight. maybe oversized end caps for the wing (stable ).my first wing /haven't tried yet! its top sheet and spars only/ open underneath.. catches wind like a kite! 2 - 3/16th thick bar b que sqeers! hopes it works.. kinda glue globbly messy- . need a cleaner way to make it!
@markevogt
@markevogt 9 жыл бұрын
NICELY done!
@dnbenr3090
@dnbenr3090 8 жыл бұрын
For the leading edge fold should I score the fold to make it easier and a less bulky wing? New to this so any advice is much appreciated :)
@shaguftas8631
@shaguftas8631 5 жыл бұрын
Very informative,thanks. Where do I get the foam board.
@ExperimentalAirlines
@ExperimentalAirlines 12 жыл бұрын
@bendunia It would make me extremely happy to see that video! I and some other guys are having good success with the Peace Drone for FPV flying. It is not hard to build if you can find the right foamboard. When you do, please tell me where you got it so I can help other builders around the EU. I'm sure you'll also appreciate the canard design - a French word and a French invention! Also see video for Armin Wing part 9 for the accidental French flag in the thumbnail.
@PapiHardass
@PapiHardass 10 жыл бұрын
that was awesome video. thanks for sharing
@smithjones3548
@smithjones3548 9 жыл бұрын
Very informative, thanks!
@koutanaka4425
@koutanaka4425 4 жыл бұрын
We are using illustration board for the air foil and to move the flap we are using syringe and surgical hose.. And i cant find any videos like our project..
@DaniloGarciaHansen
@DaniloGarciaHansen 8 жыл бұрын
Is it possible to cover the wing with Monokote? I mean, the foamboard supports the hot to apply it?
@chiliidawg1
@chiliidawg1 12 жыл бұрын
WoW!!! Thank you !!! More videos!!!
@youronlycow
@youronlycow 11 жыл бұрын
oh my thanks for all the work! It's amazing. Can I ask something? Based on KF airfoils, there are specific dimensions which will produce results for different applications (Glide, speed, normal etc...). So for this airfoil, how would you know what to make? or would you make one with close reference to the data on kf airfoil? Also, how thick is that foam? Thanks :D
@ExperimentalAirlines
@ExperimentalAirlines 12 жыл бұрын
Definitely will demonstrate lift. A flat piece of foamboard kind of would too if you had the right angle of incidence, but I think you want to show the actual cambered airfoil lift effect, so this would be a great way to demonstrate. I think you would need at least a simple rig that slid or pivoted up and down to allow the wing to lift up and down. It would take a pretty serious airflow to cause enough wing flex to be plainly visible. Let me know if I can help. Science project?
@KJ4CTZ
@KJ4CTZ 12 жыл бұрын
Awesome idea, thanks for sharing.
@magnomedeiros3628
@magnomedeiros3628 Жыл бұрын
great video...but could you clear me a doubt what material are you using to make the wings?
@youronlycow
@youronlycow 11 жыл бұрын
thanks man. I subscribed because I love the work. I'm a relatively new scratch builder, have 2 airplanes now. F-18 and P-40 as scratch builds. Would like to make your airfoil for a glider. I have searched for airfoils around the net but never knew how to make them because I didn't really know of any rule of thumb or anything to gauge when making airfoils for different planes.
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