Easy to Make Propane Burner! For Melting Metal at Home, or a Forge!

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In this propane burner build, I show you how to make an "Oliver Upwind" propane burner. This easy to build, cheap burner design can be found here:
www.backyardmetalcasting.com/o...
Mine is a bit larger due to local parts availability, but it came in under $20, not including the regulator. I used a 0-30psi propane regulator from amazon, it came with a high pressure hose.
Fitting:
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...
Regulator:
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...
I intend to use this propane burner for melting stuff, specifically metal casting at home. The hope is I will be able to achieve reliable, constant high temperatures for melting aluminum, brass, copper, and bronze alloys for sand casting at home.
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@ryanholtmann9013 6 жыл бұрын

Ive been a licensed ironworker for 14 years and a furniture maker for about 4, and still, sometimes I ask myself "I wonder if I have enough knowledge, experience and intelligence to not kill myself doing this build". But then I watch these videos. If you're still alive, I think I'll be ok. I admire your bravery

@PaulsGarage 6 жыл бұрын

bravery and luck goes really, really far. Besides, the real danger isn't taking risks, it's forgetting how dangerous mundane things are and letting your guard down.

@charadremur333 3 жыл бұрын

@@PaulsGarage I've done that before.

@SuperiorEtchworx 6 жыл бұрын

I love chinesium what a great word for the unique alloy that the chinese use . It is calibrated to break at exactly the wrong moment

@sethhowell2278 7 жыл бұрын

welcome to the propane game man! enjoy all your free time and cleaner metals!

@PaulsGarage 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks! i'm looking forward to it! I have a whole screen door's worth of extruded aluminum that is just one rain free day away from getting the propane treatment!

@johanvdmerwe7417 5 жыл бұрын

@@PaulsGarage x

@al9094 6 жыл бұрын

Tip if you don't have the rich mans drill bit set . I used a .35 welding tip from a mig welder. Cut it in half jb weld it in.

@gplechuckiii 7 жыл бұрын

Paul I'm going to still suggest you get a propane 40lb tank from an RV. You can find them pretty easily. And I'll tell you why you should get one. 1) Have to fill less often. 2) bigger tank means less likely to ice up. I'm pretty sure you live in the upper midwest where it doesn't warm up till May so this is an issue a good part of the year. 3) no need to take your barbecue tank off your grill. 4) Horizontal ones can't be knocked over

@PaulsGarage 7 жыл бұрын

That's a fantastic idea! I know where to get those around here, my parents have an RV with those tanks. I hadnt' even considered that.

@gplechuckiii 7 жыл бұрын

DON'T go to the RV place first. They have more incentive to mark up way too much. I'd start with Salvage Yard. Call up any one and tell them what you're looking for. Those tanks have no use to them so they'll be cheap. Propane distribution company. Tell them you're looking to buy a tank not rent. Should be cheaper than an RV place.

@jesterfrost1369 5 жыл бұрын

I have one but i cant get it recertified only downfall ive found

@johnreeder5996 3 жыл бұрын

An interesting low budget approach. Thanks.

@TheArtofCraftsmanship 6 жыл бұрын

I recently built a similar burner and am having trouble with the amount of air blowing out the flame. I figure there is a definitive answer to why this is happening but I don’t know it. Can you think of a reason why my flame is going out when I give it the full amount of air? Thanks.

@edgeeffect 6 жыл бұрын

That's basically the same thing (well, same but not quite) as a Bunsen Burner. I'm a newcomer to your videos... like the style a lot!

@taitelennox4514 7 жыл бұрын

I really really really love your videos paul, they make my day!

@PaulsGarage 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks! I'm glad to hear that! :D

@shivercanada 6 жыл бұрын

You're the greatest man! My coal furnace Blows....I'm going propane, just came back from the hardware store and will have fun making this tomorrow! Thanks Fun Master!

@PaulsGarage 6 жыл бұрын

Hope it goes well! just remember this design is rickety, use at your own risk... I did and i only burned myself a *little bit*

@laurarizzo1417 5 жыл бұрын

Hello . the LPG gas (normally used in some areas of Italy) can melt small quantities of copper in a crucible like that of the goldsmiths?

@jbwelch89 6 жыл бұрын

man iv watched so many videos but the commentry and personality in your videos keeps you ammused and keeps the attention really enjoy learning from your videos. really appreciate the vids i plan on getting into this very soon hopefully sometime i will be able to suggest something to help you in the future as much as these have helped me

@PaulsGarage 6 жыл бұрын

thanks! glad you like the videos :D

@Batmanderp38 6 жыл бұрын

Paul in your opinion do you reckon a gas burner can melt down scrap lead from a car battery?

@joshmellon390 2 жыл бұрын

Hey Paul, I've used a .025" mig tip for my propane nozzle, maybe it would work for you too?

@Kamal_AL-Hinai 7 жыл бұрын

-"why did you choose propane?" -"because I have a propane grill." -"oh yeah that makes sense"

@PaulsGarage 7 жыл бұрын

Also, the flames are blue! how cool is that?

@jaytaylor6857 7 жыл бұрын

First like! 😊 My burner has been in the works for weeks. Different setup and I haven't finished turning the nozzle! If you are interested I'm going to post up when it's done. Along with a few pics from making my furnace. Like your vids!

@jaytaylor6857 7 жыл бұрын

Maybe not the first like! KZfaq fooling me!

@jaytaylor6857 7 жыл бұрын

Also, I got all the pipes for my burner in SS and it cost £22, would of been cheaper if I had done cash! If you look around you can always find a cheaper option.

@PaulsGarage 7 жыл бұрын

Stainless would certainly look nicer than black pipe. Black pipe is cheap, readily available, and meant for gas, but it is ugly stuff for sure.

@TenaciousLeeTV 7 жыл бұрын

kids these days and their dope pipes... Also, now I have Warren G's Regulate stuck in my head. xD

@PaulsGarage 7 жыл бұрын

And it's in my head too... thanks for that!

@HaLo2FrEeEk 6 жыл бұрын

I found that site/design several years back when I first got into metal casting, but I never built the burner. I'm thinking about it now, but I'm wondering if it could be a hybrid forced air/naturally aspirated burner. A sleeve could be made and slipped over the burner pipe to cover the holes (and would help adjust the fuel/air mixture) and I could easily connect the output from an air mattress pump to the back of the burner tube...hmm

@hammertusk1948 7 жыл бұрын

can you please give me the pipe fitting dimensions. I want to replicate the project and I need to know what to buy because I like the way you made it. f.y.i, I watched your video on tuning it and I think it might help if instead of using the hair dryer, you could just cover the holes you drilled and drill some more up front maybe. Idk if that will work but that's what I'm going to try.

@ZaneDaMagicPufferDragon 7 жыл бұрын

Nice modification of the original design based on the parts that were available to you. I can't wait to see how well it will perform but you still have to build a new furnace around your new propane burner and I'm interested to see how it all comes together!!!!

@PaulsGarage 7 жыл бұрын

I'm looking forward to getting the new furnace too! I might give this a test run on the current furnace while I get all the materials for the new one. Still trying to figure out the design details on that...

@jacobusvisser6428 6 жыл бұрын

Hey! Do you know the BTU/hr of this? Or, have you tried running an entire 20lb tank empty? How long did that take? Also, would it be possible to make it portable by using a 14oz propane torch bottle? I know it wont last very long at all, but do those little bottles give enough pressure to get a flame as big as yours? Thanks!

@PaulsGarage 6 жыл бұрын

I don’t know, but I do have a plan to figure it out eventually. I know where I can borrow a super accurate tank scale, I’m just waiting for warmer weather

@davedennis6042 6 жыл бұрын

Very cool

@jamesparlane9289 7 жыл бұрын

I think the propane squirting hole is called the jet. I have a hunch that the air intake holes might be called venturi and the size is critical for good performance. Nice video.

@PaulsGarage 7 жыл бұрын

Yes! "Jet" is the word i was looking for there. thanks!

@ryanmackin8346 6 жыл бұрын

James Parlane or "ventury oriface" if you want to get technical ...I think. ;-)

@crapisnice 3 жыл бұрын

hi, you can make a heat recovery system and so connect high temp air to the burner intake

@notmynormalusername1 7 жыл бұрын

I'm building two of these now. It's funny we bought almost the exact same stuff. Same pipe, same hose+regulator. I was checking youtube because I didn't realize I needed that flare fitting for the propane hose. No link in the description sadly, but at least I know what I'm missing. :) thanks!

@PaulsGarage 7 жыл бұрын

+Jared Thomson problem resolved! The link is now in the description, but I have found the fitting at a normal hardware store that sold pluming stuff, so you might not even have to order it.

@notmynormalusername1 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks Paul :) I did go ahead and order it, and it works great. Burner is up and running. \m/

@JoshKilen 6 жыл бұрын

very nice job.

@arnienonymous4458 7 жыл бұрын

*breaks Chinesium step bit* "Well, that was unexpected..." Only on your end, dude. :D

@PaulsGarage 7 жыл бұрын

you forgot the part where i was beating the chinesium bit to death :D

@klixtrio7760 7 жыл бұрын

What store did you get the stuff from? I cant find the a bell reducer

@PaulsGarage 7 жыл бұрын

+KlixTrio all of it from menards, a competitor to Home Depot and lowes. It would also be available at many hardware stores, I think I saw all the parts at a local Ace hardware. The regulator I had to order, however.

@center4nerds 6 жыл бұрын

I have been looking for a decent design that does not involve welding and this fits the build. The fact you made me laugh several times during the video was just an awesome added bonus :D

@PaulsGarage 6 жыл бұрын

Glad i could help out ;).

@KaRuFilmsPak 6 жыл бұрын

where we get 0 30 psi propane regulotor

@zulupowe7494 5 жыл бұрын

Could you use a regular propane torch to melt brass?

@PaulsGarage 5 жыл бұрын

Brass would be pushing it. Regular propane torches (I assume you mean weed burners) tend to be low on airflow, dont work well in a furnace without modification

@tuckerj.1793 6 жыл бұрын

Dude, you are very funny! Thanks for video and humor

@PaulsGarage 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Glad you enjoyed :)

@edabila913 6 жыл бұрын

hi paul i was just wondering if u would also post the parts list you used...it would be most helpful... thanks in advance

@PaulsGarage 6 жыл бұрын

I think its in the description

@LearningByGaming 7 жыл бұрын

Hehehe, having an emergency knob always is important! Great video! :-)

@PaulsGarage 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Yes, emergency knobs can be very useful :P

@omarmunozurbina7574 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you, I gonna to check my burner, because the flame is poor, yellow color. According with you, I need more holes for to get a better air/fuel ratio and so get a blue flame.

@snoopdog68 6 жыл бұрын

I went with a "B" fitting so I use the regulator and regular welding hoses for my glass blowing torch.

@danielwilson7308 7 жыл бұрын

I built the other style torch already but I'm not overly thrilled with it so I think I'll build yours too. Question: How are you able to get the air/gas mixture optimal without using a carb of some sort? Are those predrilled holes that precise that you never need adjustments?

@PaulsGarage 7 жыл бұрын

This design doens't have a great way to adjust the mixture on the fly. The air can be adjusted by covering/opening more holes, but in a certain configuration it seems to work best at a specific pressure. You can see when i first turned it on at low pressure, it was a lazy, rich lame because it didn't have the suction to pull enough air in through the holes. This improved when i cranked up the pressure. As a result, in this configuration i can't run a small flame at low pressure. It just isn't possible.

@eldardrakeson 7 жыл бұрын

I would think, if you needed additional airflow, and you have all that extra pipe at the back... perhaps you could modify an old hairdryer (possibly with a dimmer arrangement) to pump additional air if you wanted to run a smaller flame?

@Joe-dw8sh 7 жыл бұрын

have you seen the backyard scientists propane burner it makes that one seem super complicated

@PaulsGarage 7 жыл бұрын

+joe garrow I haven't but I'll check that out. Most burners are more complex than this but they have more tuning ability

@jamielappen4181 7 жыл бұрын

Where did you buy the NPT to flare fitting?

@PaulsGarage 7 жыл бұрын

+Jamie Lappen got it on Amazon, but I have since found one at a larger hardware store. Sometimes NPT is called MIP or some other names, so it might be available locally just by another name

@jamielappen4181 7 жыл бұрын

Are you able to send me the amazon link please?

@Yaakov444 7 жыл бұрын

I really want to see it in action with the furnace !

@PaulsGarage 7 жыл бұрын

Me too! I wanted to give it a test run today, but it's raining :(

@benarn2752 7 жыл бұрын

You mentioned a place where you get tin. Where?

@PaulsGarage 7 жыл бұрын

many sources like lead free solder (which is often 99% tin), some of those old 'antique' stores that really just sell old junk, lots of the pewter objects will be mostly tin (some have lead in them, some dont so be careful) or if you want to just buy tin ingots try rotometals.com

@johnbiggs7620 6 жыл бұрын

Love how you just had drill bits and stuff on your phone screen lol

@PaulsGarage 6 жыл бұрын

+John Biggs my phone takes lots of abuse ;)

@rcpi9336 7 жыл бұрын

Im so glad to see your channel growing and to see you pursuing your hobbies! You are have the most amazing videos (and personality). I CAN NOT WAIT for more copper and aluminum melting, and maybe even literally copper and aluminum melting (I think you should call the bronze "Copperum". Im both excited and disappointed that you have swapped to propane. It will allow you to do SO many (responsible mind you) casting projects. Im still stuck in the dark ages with Grant's mini foundry design for solely aluminum. Im using soup cans as crucibles... I bought a super cheap Chinese clay graphite one but it is too wide for charcoal to fit around. Anyway keep up the good work and videos. -John

@PaulsGarage 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks! I can't wait for more copper melting either, too bad it's going to rain tomorrow here... I'm going to keep my bucket furnace and probably still use charcoal in it when melting aluminum. Charcoal is pretty cheap and i already have a couple bags of it. But once I get the better furnace built I want to start doing more copper alloys. There is a LOT of cool bronze/brass casting in the future I hope!

@cryophile 6 жыл бұрын

I used Lionel Oliver's refractory recipe to line my furnace that I mentioned on another video.

@BLMCFR 6 жыл бұрын

NPT - National Pipe TAPER. The taper is generally 1 inch in 20 inch or 3 degrees 50 minute angle minutes of arc..... There are many types of pipe threads, including imperial (US standard) and metric. I would suggest Stainless steel pipe and flair because of flame temperature. 1.) Stainless can handle a higher temperature, 2.) stainless does not conduct heat like other metals. And yes, I own a small machine shop and steel fabrication shop. I have been a novice engineer for 40 years, with some engineering schooling (didn't have the $100,000 or more for the full degree due to injuries in a car crash).

@PaulsGarage 6 жыл бұрын

+Jeffrey Cole thanks for the tip! Stainless would be pretty awesome, I'll look into that. The normal black pipe I'm using gets quite crust and rusty over time. Did not know about the different heat conduction either.

@AshesMardiGra 6 жыл бұрын

Is the regulator on the gas line necessary to maintain PSI?

@PaulsGarage 6 жыл бұрын

+AshesMardiGra yes. As the tank empties and/or cools, pressure will not stay constant. The regulator fixes that

@AshesMardiGra 6 жыл бұрын

Paul's Garage I currently get great pressure for 10 to 15 sec before goes to nearly nothing and flame goes out.

@goldmanstacks4802 7 жыл бұрын

Hey great video man! You're hilarious

@PaulsGarage 7 жыл бұрын

+Captain Shortguy thanks! Glad you enjoyed!

@mithickwolf 7 жыл бұрын

hay Paul thanks for the video FYI Oxygen degrades the silicon or teflon components in the valve and any oil or hydrocarbons in the valve from manufacture can react with the oxygen plus heat I'm guessing we can all goes what happens next.

@taitelennox4514 7 жыл бұрын

you can make your foundry in a trash can to make it bigger, I did this and it works really well

@PaulsGarage 7 жыл бұрын

I was thinking about that. I can get steel trash cans at a store here, but they are REALLY big. I was thinking maybe double the size of the bucket foundry, but the trash cans are around 5 times the size of the bucket.

@makeityours2229 7 жыл бұрын

Paul, you don't need the flare when using it in the forge. A flare is only required when using it when not hooked up. Also if you want to add forced air either with a hair dryer or compressor the furnace will get just about hot enough to cast iron depending on how you build the new furnace

@makeityours2229 7 жыл бұрын

wow after I posted that you uploaded a new video. lol

@bradyemm9709 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks Paul. I really enjoy your channel! You inspire me to do awesomely stupid-dangerous things :-)

@PaulsGarage 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks! i'm glad you enjoy! Don't be dangerous, though! Be safe :D Also have fun.

@153epicfreerunning 7 жыл бұрын

you should fit a flame arrestor between the stainless hose and the valve that way if a flame were to work its way back you dont blow up your garage :). awesome videos man!

@robbvk6es 7 жыл бұрын

not really needed since there is no oxygen like with a gas welding torch.

@153epicfreerunning 7 жыл бұрын

Rob B but theres always the chance it could happen, always better to waste a couple dollars rather than a couple million to have your face re built

@PaulsGarage 7 жыл бұрын

yeah better safe than sorry, you make a good point. A couple bucks to eliminate a remote risk is easy to justify.

@charliemahoney3932 6 жыл бұрын

How/where did you get all your copper?

@PaulsGarage 6 жыл бұрын

I fix appliances for a living, we remove old copper lines that leak and replace with plastic that doesn’t corrode as quickly

@ewaugh69 6 жыл бұрын

Does a standard BBQ regulator work on one of these?

@PaulsGarage 6 жыл бұрын

+Ellis Waugh nope, the pressure is way too low

@ewaugh69 6 жыл бұрын

Paul's Garage can I get away with just using the ball shutoff?

@tedlesch2543 6 жыл бұрын

can this work vertically?

@PaulsGarage 6 жыл бұрын

+Ted Lesch the direction really shouldn't matter. The pressure shoots the propane down the pipe, and that pulls air in. Should work up, down, horizontally, all similarly.

@gregwallace1945 3 жыл бұрын

ya, ya, Fire!

@juicetang1205 6 жыл бұрын

not for oxygen because the oxygren fittings are grease-free, no lubficants allowed with oxygen because if liquid oxygen hits grease it explodes, and with the high pressures oxygen tanks run at its nofun and gameds

@terryknudsen2205 4 жыл бұрын

+1ssssssw1¹q! ACA l

@al9094 6 жыл бұрын

If you build one of these add water through gas line and look in 1" pipe and move gas line till water comes out the center. thats the best way to center the # 57 hole to the torch and it will burn better. I tried to run mine without the bell reducer and it started sputtering backfiring so it needs a flair on the end.

@Dsquadrant 5 жыл бұрын

Hey paul,,,what is the purpose of the flare at the end of the burner?

@PaulsGarage 5 жыл бұрын

It does a few things. Since it flares out, the fuel/air mix is forced to expand and slow down, this creates turbulence. The slow turbulent mixture then burns more completely right in the flare. This can prevent the burner from blowing itself out. This is especially important before the furnace heats up.

@Dsquadrant 5 жыл бұрын

Awesome thanks man!! I am building one now to play with this weekend.

@ChrisGilliamOffGrid 5 жыл бұрын

Mountain Man Ent How'd it go?

@Dsquadrant 5 жыл бұрын

It went good but not as good as Pauls. I posted a video to my channel. It's going to be ok for my mini furnace but my video is a perfect example of what paul was talking about with the air/fuel mixture being off. It has enough blue flame to reach the temps I need but then it turns to yellow flame at the tip. I'm going to open the holes up to 1/2" and see if that fixes it.

@Dsquadrant 5 жыл бұрын

kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qseUldWb353OcYk.html Hey Paul,,I followed the steps you took and it seems like my air/fuel mixture is off some how. Should I open up the 3/8" holes a little bigger so I get all blue flame like yours? Any help is much appreciated man.

@jackfrost1031 7 жыл бұрын

NPT stands for national pipe, tapered. There is such thing as NPS which is a straight thread and used for lamps and other things.

@PaulsGarage 7 жыл бұрын

Ah right, that makes sense. I sometimes mix words in my head, thought the T was for thread :D

@jackfrost1031 7 жыл бұрын

Great video though. I just scored some scrap brass and want so badly to join the metal melting club!

@littlekingcobrasden4217 7 жыл бұрын

I like your tutorial how to videos, the ones I have seen are simple. and my furnace is already equipped to burn coal, wood, paper briquettes, etc. But it is 25 miles one way for me to get a tank of propane. But cooking oil and motor oil is a lot easier for me to scrap up. living in the bush, some building materials can be a challenge to locate without a 50 mile round trip walk. So I would like to request a future video for myself and others who may be in a similar situation for an alternative style burner such as the oils? I built my furnace from an old 175 gallon used oil storage tank ( like the ones you might see at a minute oil change shop ) so I have a lot of room to heat. I am curious to see what you can come up with. most the ones I've seen are to complicated or difficult for me to find parts ECT. I am looking of a simple gravity fed no air compressor design. I love aluminum casting, and trying to learn brass, copper, and if my guess is correct about this river, possibly gold. Later for now. . . .

@ChirpysTinkerings 7 жыл бұрын

I built an oil burner, I built mine off of the kwiky burner, but if I wanted something simple that just works, I would look at some of the burners from the guy called "oil burner" here on youtube. His drip style burners work really well and Ive seen a few running in person, and I have to say that they are much easier to use than the siphon ones and much cheaper to build.

@PaulsGarage 7 жыл бұрын

yeah the channel "oil burner" is pretty good. I think Fair Weather Foundry uses an oil burner, but he uses a mix of air pressure and gravity feed. He elevates the oil tank above the burner, so gravity acts to force the oil through as well as the pressure. I think he says a foot of height is equivalent to a PSI or something like that? I probably won't be making an oil burner anytime soon, although I am curious how well cooking oil would work. The problem I have is neighbors. I'm in a dense neighborhood, and propane is odorless and smokeless so i can fly under the radar here. I want to try an oil burner at some point, but it might not be very soon.

@littlekingcobrasden4217 7 жыл бұрын

Would you mind sharing the link pleas? I keep looking and to just put oil burner or drip style oil burner, I get way too many choices.

@ChirpysTinkerings 7 жыл бұрын

I use a kwiky oil burner, which needs an air compressor but works really great for me. If you want drip style, just look up the user "oil burner" on youtube here. Both can be found on here and are fairly easy to make.

@PaulsGarage 7 жыл бұрын

+Little King Cobras Den which link are you talking about? I can't see my reply to this comment from my phone for some reason. If you want designs for oil burners those atre probably at backyardmetalcasting.com, if you are looking for one in action check out KZfaq channel fair weather foundry, there should be a link in the featured channels on my channel page.

@taitelennox4514 7 жыл бұрын

yaaay propane burner!!!

@mindofmadness5593 6 жыл бұрын

So how has it been working out? I just built one-similar design except I used a mig tip for the gas opening inserted into the backend [[I know there is a joke in there for you.]], 4 set screws hold it in place and the back is sealed. My first design my nozzle with the tip was just behind the holes similar to yours but my flame was bright yellow-too much air. Lengthened the tip and now it is just in front of the holes-better flame but not quit there yet. Makes me want to go back to charcoal-sorta but not.

@PaulsGarage 6 жыл бұрын

works great so far. It would work better if i could use a flare in the furnace, but when the furnace heats up i don't have problems anymore. Bright yellow is usually not enough air (running rich), but it can also be moisture in the air, impurities, lots of stuff.

@mindofmadness5593 6 жыл бұрын

Hmmm. I thought Yellow was too much air and blue without the inner cone was too little?

@mindofmadness5593 6 жыл бұрын

Oh and by the way, I have your goofy theme stuck in my head like an ear worm. lol

@charanidalca11 6 жыл бұрын

haha ... happy burning .. I mean casting :D

@PaulsGarage 6 жыл бұрын

all casting is happy casting :D

@filibuster7821 5 жыл бұрын

When drilling metal, it’s best to drill at a slow rpm.

@scottgarvinjr8262 7 жыл бұрын

Hey Paul. Don't forget to keep the propane tank warm so it doesn't freeze

@PaulsGarage 7 жыл бұрын

Good point! this was just a test firing, but i'll have to keep it from freezing during longer use.

@MrBudd53909 7 жыл бұрын

will an old milk can work as a forge ? could use as ice on sidewalk remover.IF it doesn't work in your forge.LOL

@PaulsGarage 7 жыл бұрын

+Mr Budd I don't know, it might work. Depends on the size of the milk can I guess and what you do with it.

@colsoncustoms8994 4 жыл бұрын

How hot will propane get if using a burner like this?

@PaulsGarage 4 жыл бұрын

Depends on too many factors to say for sure. I use forced air now and an insulated fire brick furnace and I have melted iron with it, so hot enough!

@colsoncustoms8994 4 жыл бұрын

@@PaulsGarage Awesome, thanks for the reply. Running a compressor to the burner or something like that?

@PaulsGarage 4 жыл бұрын

@@colsoncustoms8994 not a compressor, I use an air mattress pump. I've used a hair dryer in the past too but it didn't move enough air and the thing always ran a little rich when on full blast

@colsoncustoms8994 4 жыл бұрын

@@PaulsGarage Okay cool, I use a bathroom exhaust fan for my open charcoal forge.

@PaulsGarage 4 жыл бұрын

@@colsoncustoms8994 i never would have thought of that, that's a cool idea!

@jerrypeevey 7 жыл бұрын

Oxygen is highly explosive under pressure. A greasy fingerprint in an oxygen rich environment + pressure = BOOM Special valves and lubricants for them are required. Like never grease or get grease on your Oxy/Acet. Valves right ?

@BLMCFR 6 жыл бұрын

Not just under pressure. You are correct to think oil based products - oils, lubricants, seals, etc. - are very reactive to oxygen, and yes, sometimes just the oils from your hands. Not "like never grease or get grease", NEVER get grease or oil, or oil based seals near oxygen. Things burst into flames or explode. YES! Specially prepared valves, seals, and lubricants are needed for oxygen systems.

@mindofmadness5593 6 жыл бұрын

Interesting thing. I was Diabetic as a baby too adulthood. Ended up in the hospital at age 13. Night shift as Hosp, the nurses [[whom I became friends with as they were[[well a couple of them anyway]] hot. The break room was stuffed with Oxygen tanks and they sat around smoking and playing cards and such.

@MidnightMarrow 6 жыл бұрын

Oxygen itself isn't explosive, it's an accelerator as in it helps whatever fuel combust. More oxygen during combustion the faster it does so. If oxygen were leaking from said tanks and touched the lit smokes it'd merely accelerate the burn nothing more. The biggest danger is in the instance of oxy / acetylene, if you have leaks in that kind of setup it could very well become a massive explosion due to the mixture of fuel oxygen and the combustion from the torch! Which is why you typically wanna be further away from the actual tanks.

@TimeRift609 6 жыл бұрын

"Fire hole"

@PaulsGarage 6 жыл бұрын

"fire hole" is the super technical term.

@matasgrigonis120 6 жыл бұрын

I bought a propane torch at harbor freight for 20 bucks

@brandonedwards7166 6 жыл бұрын

Dalavan burners are awesome. They burn waste oil you get for free.

@learningthehardway6186 6 жыл бұрын

Propane isn't free... but I found it to be much cheaper than charcoal. It also rids you of the sparks and ash, and you no longer need to babysit your fire. If you have a Costco nearby they sell propane pretty darned cheap

@PaulsGarage 6 жыл бұрын

+Learning the Hard Way I think you're right. Propane is so much easier, and I think I burned through just as many dollars in lump charcoal per melt.

@TheNy615 5 жыл бұрын

Hey man I’m just using the right drillbit for the job LOL

@PaulsGarage 5 жыл бұрын

To use the right bit you must first HAVE the right bit ;)

@matthewbourgeois4859 7 жыл бұрын

if you ad a hair drier to the extra on the back, it makes it bun hotter.

@PaulsGarage 7 жыл бұрын

+Matthew Bourgeois you must be psychic! I tried that last weekend, the video of it posts tomorrow actually.

@matthewbourgeois4859 7 жыл бұрын

Paul's Garage Dear God I apologise for that grammer, i hadn't had my coffee yet.

@PaulsGarage 7 жыл бұрын

+Matthew Bourgeois lol I totally understand! My braid doesn't wake up until after at least 2 mugs of coffee

@jackapunch4455 7 жыл бұрын

You should make one with the new furnace

@PaulsGarage 7 жыл бұрын

i want to make some bronze stuff for sure!

@gamepurpose 5 жыл бұрын

damn this is old video but hopes someone can answer: 1 question. can we just make it straight? Why make that cross position?

@fryloc359 4 жыл бұрын

Make what straight?

@schelsullivan 6 жыл бұрын

"Not even going to make jokes here" is in fact a joke

@PaulsGarage 6 жыл бұрын

mind-blown :D

@jayhayman3988 7 жыл бұрын

I wouldn't light the burner at your venturi holes. I know it's kind of cool and it acts like a pilot light, but now you are wasting fuel that is burning in your burner tube and not your foundry. Also the tube on the burner will start to get hotter than you want and flame being that close to the jet might cause a flashback under the right conditions. Just turn up the pressure and light at the flare. That being said, I did enjoy your video.

@amtscat05 7 жыл бұрын

The reason that valve will not work for O2 is because there is a propylene lubricant on the valve controller. O2 and propylene don't play well with each other.

@BLMCFR 6 жыл бұрын

Correct, it's because oils and some elements are very volatile and are very reactive with oxygen. Never ever ever never - don't even think about it - using oils, valves or fittings, that are not oxygen approved with oxygen.The seals in the valves, and oils used to manufacture the valves can and will cause spontaneous violent flames or explode. NEVER EVER use oil based soaps to leak check oxygen systems. Use ONLY oxygen approved soaps to leak check oxygen systems. That's why you can't even think about it, because you brain could spontaneously burst into a blowtorch or explode!!!! I try to quit thinking because it gets me into too much trouble....... I do not like to guess. Too many bad things can happen when I guess. It also gets too expensive to just guess.

@cplenny4281 5 жыл бұрын

I appreciate your effort, it sure would be nice if you could give a total cost instead of hiding your receipt.

@ronyerke9250 6 жыл бұрын

If the back of your burner really doesn't need to be open, then you might want to put a T or an elbow to another nipple then a mounting flange. That would make putting a support foot (wood or metal) under it easy and you wouldn't have to use that precarious looking rock. You could add height adjustable feet and ballast to the foot to make it stable.

@PaulsGarage 6 жыл бұрын

+Ron Yerke that’s a fantastic idea, thanks! I still have to come up with a new mounting system for the burner to use with the new brick furnace, I’ll see if I can work something out

@siege2829 2 жыл бұрын

Oil while drilling metal? No, why would I do that?

@Kalosmon 7 жыл бұрын

12:40 Sunova . . . Oh . . .

@kytrapping5829 5 жыл бұрын

3/8 is smaller than 1/2” if 1/2 is your biggest you may have a 3/8 bit

@ChrisGilliamOffGrid 5 жыл бұрын

KY Trapping Outdoors A fellow trapper huh? Let's cast us up some MB550 jaws. 😉

@ryansokol1791 7 жыл бұрын

Sorry to tell you this late but harbor freight sells a propane torch that just adds on to your propane tank for $20. on the bright side you get the satisfaction of making one for yourself!

@PaulsGarage 7 жыл бұрын

+Ryan Sokol there wasn't a harbor freight near me when I made that :(. But there is now! Let the money savings begin lol

@elloqq5178 7 жыл бұрын

Ryan Sokol woah hold harbor freight sells one completely done like the one he built?

@PaulsGarage 7 жыл бұрын

they sell a propane weed burner, i believe. It can work as a foundry burner but needs some modifications to work properly in a furnace. Still pretty awesome, though.

@thanos3784 6 жыл бұрын

My grandfather was known to say..." I'd rather be lucky than good."

@PaulsGarage 6 жыл бұрын

he must have been a smart, lucky man :D

@WeneDog0628 7 жыл бұрын

The valve probably isn't to be used with oxygen because the greater chance of the metal oxidizing. The atmosphere is roughly 20% oxygen, 100% oxygen would likely quintuple the oxidation rate and could cause failure within the valve. That's just my guess.

@CSGOLegendaryGaming 7 жыл бұрын

WeneDog0628 wut

@WeneDog0628 7 жыл бұрын

He stated that the valve was marked as not to be used with 100% oxygen, I was replying specifically to that statement.

@BLMCFR 6 жыл бұрын

No, it's because oils and some elements are very volatile and are very reactive with oxygen. Never ever ever never - don't even think about it - using oils, valves or fittings, that are not oxygen approved with oxygen.The seals in the valves, and oils used to manufacture the valves can and will cause spontaneous violent flames or explode. NEVER EVER use oil based soaps to leak check oxygen systems. Use ONLY oxygen approved soaps to leak check oxygen systems. That's why you can't even think about it, because you brain could spontaneously burst into a blowtorch or explode!!!! I try to quit thinking because it gets me into too much trouble....... I do not like to guess. Too many bad things can happen when I guess. It also gets too expensive to just guess.

@Oodain 6 жыл бұрын

yup the various space programs have had huge issues with keeping oxygen lines and valves clean, even a finger print can cause combustion in the prresence of 100% oxygen.

@castiel7130 7 жыл бұрын

one day, would you like to forge things, like swords and other things? Keep up the great vids!

@PaulsGarage 7 жыл бұрын

i would like to try it some day, but anvils and stuff are really expensive. It seems like forges and foundry furnaces use the same kind of propane burners, though, so i won't have to make another one of these

@eldardrakeson 7 жыл бұрын

for an anvil - if you have a scrapyard nearby that sells offcuts of rail-steel, you can make a perfectly serviceable one. there's a lot of ibles of things like that. and if you're going to start in blacksmithing, (and have the place to play with fire... which it's obvious that you do) it's not really all that expensive... IF you make your own tools. (which'll teach you a lot of techniques. it was tradition for an apprentice, when he first started being allowed to work a forge, to make his own hammer and tongs.) If you're looking for information about it, I highly highly highly suggest 'Practical Blacksmithing: The Original Classic in One Volume' by M.T Richardson 1061 pages of information from guys who did this all day long, and who paid their way through the world on the quality of their work.

@nolongeractive6830 6 жыл бұрын

I bet someone is making jokes about what you say in this video. LOL Plus also i subscribed to your channel.

@scott98390 7 жыл бұрын

_"I know where to get a lot of tin.."_ Care to share with the rest of the class, please? :-)

@PaulsGarage 7 жыл бұрын

There are a few good sources of tin. Rotometals.com sells ingots if you want to pay (it's not super cheap), lead free solder is usually mostly tin (and more expensive by pound than ingots), and often you can score an old tin plate or decorative thing at a thrift shop. I don't know of any super cheap source of tin, but even buying full price ingots isn't too bad. Bronze is mostly copper, so 1 pound of tin makes LOTS of bronze

@firearmsstudent 7 жыл бұрын

It probably isn't good for oxygen because most likely there is some grease or a hydrocarbon compound in the valve which when comes in contact with oxygen normally equals fire.

@PaulsGarage 7 жыл бұрын

huh, i hadn't thought of that. I like fire and all, but unwanted fire inside a valve sounds like a bad day.

@MidnightMarrow 6 жыл бұрын

Haha that poor bit would have been fine if you let it do it's thing instead of forcing the lil bastard. :'< R.I.P. stepper bit~

@marynollaig4124 2 жыл бұрын

You did not install any jet, Just a small hole in then cross pipe. It works admittedly.

@taitelennox4514 7 жыл бұрын

you should put the regulator on the tank and not the burner for more precise "burning"

@PaulsGarage 7 жыл бұрын

it is on the tank, the hose connects the tank/regulator to the burner

@bobalong131 7 жыл бұрын

I'd probably leave that valve open while you dream of things to burn if you do indeed plan on tack welding the pipes together. let all the propane get out. think I might look into making something like this. Could be useful.

@PaulsGarage 7 жыл бұрын

Good point! flammable, trapped gasses are not a great thing to have around a welder...

@markfryer9880 7 жыл бұрын

I was going to add a similar comment Paul. I found with my hand held torch and braided hose that it would still contain some gas after disconnection from the gas cylinder, useful for a short term portable flame but dangerous otherwise.

@bobalong131 7 жыл бұрын

I'm usually the guy rolling his eyes at the safety people but sometimes stuff isn't as immediately obvious.

@markfryer9880 7 жыл бұрын

Well this one with the remaining gas inside the line was a surprise to me as I usually turned off the supply at the tank and let the flame burn out, then I tried it by turning off and disconnecting the hose and torch and thanks to a ball valve there was still gas inside. Better to know about it than find out the really hard and dangerous way.

@PaulsGarage 7 жыл бұрын

Good point! always better safe than sorry. I'll probably disconnect the black pipe stuff from the regulator hose and blow compressed air through it or something to make sure it's all propane free before tack welding. Or maybe i'll just use a set screw like the instructions said.

@TheCliffy007 7 жыл бұрын

"lets never speak of this again..." 3. 2. 1. "Speaking of drilling holes..."

@badsantaclaus4522 7 жыл бұрын

When you go get your parents propane tank grab his real tools too lol

@PaulsGarage 7 жыл бұрын

I'll probably buy my own propane tank, but good call on the tools. I should really just buy a drill press...

@badsantaclaus4522 7 жыл бұрын

I'am just messing lol I buy china made crap it all brakes and back to buy a real tool waste of money -time. enjoy your video's

@PaulsGarage 7 жыл бұрын

+andy wilson but you're totally right! If you buy cheap you buy multiple times. The good step drills were 5 times more expensive, but they probably would've worked for more than one hole before breaking

@henryjimenez3976 7 жыл бұрын

i like your suit

@PaulsGarage 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks! gotta keep it classy, right? also fire retardant. It's wool. The opening in the front isn't so great, but at least my arms are safe?

@1pcfred 7 жыл бұрын

Drilling the jet hole after assembling the elbow to get the clocking right is a good idea. Many eliminate the elbow entirely to avoid that issue. To avoid breaking Chinesium step drill bits you need this accessory i.imgur.com/eVsKgLt.jpg They work better in it than in pistol drills.

@georgewocosky 7 жыл бұрын

No doubt ! * Chinesium mill is 'familiar' with said drill bits XD ! ( Not to mention STABILITY ! ) . . . good thing he's not trying to drill a .010 hole in 4130 with a carbide drill ;) (( I've been eyeing H.F.'s mill / drill for some time . . . thinking that it could benefit having a slightly redesigned / modified head for better Z axis control .))

@1pcfred 7 жыл бұрын

+georgewocosky I have another drill press for those really tiny bits. It is a lot smaller. i.imgur.com/GyiqYUk.jpg But yeah, I can't use those tiny carbide bits by hand at all. Well, I might get one hole a bit with them.

@PaulsGarage 7 жыл бұрын

A drill press would have helped tremendously. It's on my list (along with a million other tools) when I get the money and space. That Gingery book has a drill press as one of the projects, but having a drill press to begin with would help make the other stuff. Not to mention how useful a drill press is with lots of other projects.

@georgewocosky 7 жыл бұрын

'Munchkin' machinery has definitely got it's place ;) * I tend to drool over Lorch's & Swiss instrumentation . . . yet beggars like me tend toward H.F. to make homemade devices :( One step at a time . . . Cute little press ! What breed is it ?

@georgewocosky 7 жыл бұрын

Harbor Freight has a nice & cheesy little drill press for less than 50 bucks if you buy it when they put out a 25% off coupon ~ * The newer iterations of their 8 inch 'unit' are rather lightly built , with an aluminum 'table' & pressed steel base . . . unlike a few years ago . . .when cast iron was used . *( They work fairly well as a lathe when laid on their side . . . I turned many hundreds of fishing lure bodies with them from scrap cedar & mahogany ! ) ** Not so hot for turning metal , however. . . though it could be used for aluminum , if properly 'jigged'. . .