Echo Carb Modification EPA Plug Removal for High Speed Adjustment

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Jason Frat

Jason Frat

5 жыл бұрын

Did you buy an echo that never ran right from day one? Stay tuned as I undo EPA Doodoo...

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@mferrarorace
@mferrarorace 3 жыл бұрын
Yup, it works just fine. EPA is creating problems where none existed before Again.
@skybison_9
@skybison_9 2 жыл бұрын
To push their stupid green agenda.... Long live Respectful Americas and the and citizens of the world.
@keithdavis6819
@keithdavis6819 3 жыл бұрын
Keith Davis I've pulled that plug out of several echos and other trimmers. The heated small screw driver or small drill bit works great. Just heat and insert and then WAIT about thirty seconds. Once it cools it holds on much better. You can't just heat, insert and start immediately twisting or pulling. Give it a little time to set up.
@alexlist2032
@alexlist2032 2 ай бұрын
The heat poke works like a charm
@Behringer765
@Behringer765 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you, been searching through youtube and it was your video that helped! I used the 7/64 bit method and it worked flawlessly.
@jasonfrat9813
@jasonfrat9813 5 жыл бұрын
I'm glad it helped. I appreciate the feedback
@dcsguy2546
@dcsguy2546 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this video I drilled out the plug with the 7/64 drill bit worked like a charm THANK YOU!!! subscribed and liked!!!
@jasonfrat9813
@jasonfrat9813 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks I appreciate it! Glad it worked good for you.
@daninuesca3801
@daninuesca3801 4 жыл бұрын
Use a drywall screw at an angle it gets it right out..
@benjaminschmidt7964
@benjaminschmidt7964 4 жыл бұрын
Didn't realize how bad my weed eater was running until I tried this modification, now I'm getting twice the power at half the throttle I normally use. Thank you!!
@omantoodle2437
@omantoodle2437 2 жыл бұрын
Great lighting
@beebopsnosering
@beebopsnosering 4 жыл бұрын
LOVE YOU BRO! I’m back in business! Thanks!
@jasonfrat9813
@jasonfrat9813 4 жыл бұрын
Glad it helped you man!
@thomasauto4862
@thomasauto4862 5 жыл бұрын
GREAT JOB! I got my plug out the same way and unscrewed the jet to clean but forgot to screw it in for the baseline setting. Trail and error didn't get it running. I'm going to start at 1 1/2 turns out and adjust. My new Ebat $15 card runs the same as the old one , so I have two carbs to experiment with. Thanks for the video!!
@jasonfrat9813
@jasonfrat9813 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks, good luck with yours!
@Patrioticweasel
@Patrioticweasel 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much, best video out there for this issue!
@jasonfrat9813
@jasonfrat9813 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks I appreciate it, glad it helped you!
@markharris4260
@markharris4260 Жыл бұрын
Just grab a drill bit that will fit snugly into the brass plug , the end of the drill bit that fits in the drill ,, NOT the cutting end , after getting a bit that fits snugly into the brass just pop it out sideways !
@Alkatraz415
@Alkatraz415 3 жыл бұрын
I took the carburator off and there is enough of he brass sticking up that I was able to grab the brass with mini channel locks and unthread it.
@marknye51.thefixitguy
@marknye51.thefixitguy Жыл бұрын
The brass piece is removable if you disassemble the carb and use a good pair of pliers , like Knipex pliers to remove the plug. I think I might invest in the Echo 2.5mm tool. My problem is the compression and the carburetor itself. Compression is 88 psi. I ordered a new carb so we will see if that's the issue or is it the compression. Spark arrestor and port are very clean. Thanks for the video. I have owned Echo for years with the High Low and Idle screws that are very visible and I wish they would have never changed to these , so called , fixed carburetors
@ThisTimeTheWorld
@ThisTimeTheWorld 10 ай бұрын
I bought a 26/28cc goped "High performance " carb and the screws were easy to access.
@batmantiss
@batmantiss 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks stud! You just saved me up to SIXTY DOLLARS on a new carb!
@set3777
@set3777 Жыл бұрын
Prison time and/or fine for violating EPA rules will cost more than SIXTY DOLLARS.
@batmantiss
@batmantiss Жыл бұрын
@@set3777 you're probably the stupidest person in the room. Every time.
@davidrasmussen2975
@davidrasmussen2975 Жыл бұрын
That TACH will help guide you to optimum high speed jet. Engine can rev to about 9000 rpm max and then enrich to 8000 rpm.
@magicone9327
@magicone9327 2 жыл бұрын
How do you sync the main meter screw, the idle meter screw and the the throttle barrel positioning screw?
@tidakadaide
@tidakadaide 3 жыл бұрын
I like the hour meter. I bought a couple to put on my machines....just have not done it yet :/
@jasonfrat9813
@jasonfrat9813 3 жыл бұрын
Yea I hear you, it's neat though. People think I'm crazy but it's interesting and helpful. I'm always surprised at how many hours I really do put on equipment in a season
@heavymechanic2
@heavymechanic2 Жыл бұрын
One point no-one mentioned is CARB (California Air Resource Board) has mandated Zero Emission on small equipment requiring all small engines be replaced with battery packs. 2-Cycle has been banned in Calif for many years and now everything under 50HP is outlawed. How long until all states follow their master plan? I saw a Ryobi push mower for 900$ in another video, the replacement battery packs (2) were 219 each.
@SomeoneVx
@SomeoneVx 11 ай бұрын
gotta love commieforina. Its always such bs with that state.
@ThisTimeTheWorld
@ThisTimeTheWorld 10 ай бұрын
CARBifornia is gay and semitic communist. Battery powered weeders are trash.
@georgeiceman867
@georgeiceman867 2 жыл бұрын
Find the rpm on the user manual or a service manual and use the attached tachometer to set it. Is that so hard to do it ???
@demolaj1
@demolaj1 2 жыл бұрын
OK SO how many turns did you end up on the screw ?? counter or clockwise ?
@TheSpidersoftheworld
@TheSpidersoftheworld 4 жыл бұрын
get a paper clip heat the tip to red hot plunge it into the plug let it cool then it pulls right out .
@timtoomuch
@timtoomuch 3 жыл бұрын
If you take a punch the size of the plug heat it up let it cool on the plug you can pull it right out
@mattyt6986
@mattyt6986 3 жыл бұрын
You sound like a celebrity but I just can't think of who it is 😂 😂
@jasonfrat9813
@jasonfrat9813 3 жыл бұрын
Haha I'll take that!
@bubbajay4044
@bubbajay4044 Жыл бұрын
would this boost torque?
@wildeyedandbuckwild8639
@wildeyedandbuckwild8639 4 жыл бұрын
if you push the gray button on your hour meter will show you the RPM's
@1thess523
@1thess523 2 жыл бұрын
I just got my carburetor rebuilt and now my SRM210 is running super fast, even without the gas on the head is turning like I'm giving ot gas.
@jasonfrat9813
@jasonfrat9813 2 жыл бұрын
Could just be idle screw adjustment. Otherwise I'd check for a lean condition
@petev5545
@petev5545 4 жыл бұрын
Hey guy great video. Can you tell me the size of the thin carb adjustment tool your are using. Is it a packman or half D? Thanks
@andybecker2693
@andybecker2693 3 жыл бұрын
On a 225 it’s just a slotted screw behind the plug. On the 2620 there’s no plugs, the high and low adjustments have to be made with a “micro d” tool. I was lucky enough to find the Echo adjustment set with a “micro d” tool and a “single d” tool but they’re kinda pricey.but well made.
@chewarmstrong
@chewarmstrong Жыл бұрын
@@andybecker2693 hey Andy where can I buy the tools for the 2620? I recently bought a new 2620 trimmer and it vibrates more than my old one. What could the issue? Thanks!
@andybecker2693
@andybecker2693 Жыл бұрын
No one will sell the Echo micro d adjustment tool, but just Google it and there are a couple of options.
@chewarmstrong
@chewarmstrong Жыл бұрын
@@andybecker2693 I bought a brand new 2620 Trimmer and it vibrates a lot. My 4 year old 2620 is butter smooth. What do you think could be the issue? Thanks
@andybecker2693
@andybecker2693 Жыл бұрын
@@chewarmstrong Not sure but I would take it back to the dealer unless you bought it online.
@johnenriquez7044
@johnenriquez7044 4 жыл бұрын
If you remove that plug. Does it void out the warranty.
@scraplifelivingthedream4331
@scraplifelivingthedream4331 3 жыл бұрын
Yes it would void the warranty. Echo does these adjustments under your warranty
@andybecker2693
@andybecker2693 3 жыл бұрын
I know you’re limited on space but I would move that hour meter away from the back where you have it. It’s an air cooled engine forced by the fan and exits out the back. The engine could overheat.
@Vanguardcredit
@Vanguardcredit 3 жыл бұрын
Can you burn the engine this way? since your are making it go faster?
@jasonfrat9813
@jasonfrat9813 3 жыл бұрын
The rpm is fine. If anything it will last longer bot running so lean
@92EGcxGSR
@92EGcxGSR 2 жыл бұрын
Do you have it at full or partial throttle when making your adjustment?
@jasonfrat9813
@jasonfrat9813 2 жыл бұрын
Full throttle
@TheLittlered1961
@TheLittlered1961 4 жыл бұрын
You have to love the EPA. Is the equipment being run at sea level or at 7000 feet? Makes big difference for the carb adjustment for a carb that can not be adjusted. No, one size does not fit all. I have lived at both elevations. Thanks to you, I now know how to adjust them.
@jasonfrat9813
@jasonfrat9813 4 жыл бұрын
Yea haha. I'd be curious to know if dealers run into issues at higher altitudes. If they have customers complaining do they have to adjust 1000s? Glad it helped out!
@TheLittlered1961
@TheLittlered1961 4 жыл бұрын
@@jasonfrat9813 I have no idea. I currently live near sea level. When I lived at 7000 feet, you could adjust them. This was over 20 years ago. Today, almost every piece of equipment I have bought, 2 cycle, bogs. Guessing that they adjust at factory for about 3000 foot. Bet that they are all running to lean. Looking at more than a little adjusting here.
@jasonfrat9813
@jasonfrat9813 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheLittlered1961 Its a shame really. I do know that the stihl dealers will test and tune purchased equipment for people. I recommend most people that cannot do it themselves to go the dealer route. Ive heard so many people complain of poor performance from brand new equipment and if there is no anti tamper it can be tunned in a couple minutes (allowing for warm up).
@TheLittlered1961
@TheLittlered1961 4 жыл бұрын
@@jasonfrat9813 Sadly not all of us can afford Stihl. Most of us go to home des pot. $80 vs $120 or more is a big thing. Yes, I know, Chinesiam vs good quality. Then again not big fan of our Stihl dealers here. Fuel intake hose rotted out on my Stihl chainsaw. They gave me the wrong part. Took same saw to another dealer for a tune up. Do not have RPM meter that can read 13,0000 RPM. They replaced the spark plug. Used 2 cycle gas, then starting fluid. Would not start and lost compression. Let it sit for a year or two thinking I screwed up the cylinder. For S&Gs I tried to start it again. Good compression. Think the rings got stuck. Still would not start. Checked the spark plug. No spark and plug was clean as a whistle. Engine never ran with that new plug they put in. Put new plug in and ran great. Moral of the story. Price does not guarantee good results.
@jasonfrat9813
@jasonfrat9813 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheLittlered1961 Wow that's terrible they jerked you around like that. Believe been I know what you mean about the cost. That echo I have has been great so far. Cheap too
@seabass22
@seabass22 4 жыл бұрын
Wish I would have thought of putting hour meters on my equipment. I would be curious to know how many hours are on my redmax 8500 in the past 7 years.
@nickgrottenthaler1809
@nickgrottenthaler1809 3 жыл бұрын
I had a Redmax that lasted 12 years commercially, would've loved to know the hrs. on it!
@seabass22
@seabass22 3 жыл бұрын
Nick Grottenthaler I got a trimmer with 8 years use on it. Still running good. Have another that got a donor engine off an edger, still running good. Lightweight trimmers, don’t vibrate much. My dad uses maruyama. He tears stuff up but they’re still running strong. Changing the grips and throttle cable out on two of them right now 😂
@ravenshield7823
@ravenshield7823 2 жыл бұрын
Drill into it a bit with a 1/16th bit and use a small self-tapping screw and yank. No sense in getting red hot shit near your fuel.
@franleck
@franleck Жыл бұрын
I think these were added so they could be sold in California.
@bullmastiff9991
@bullmastiff9991 5 жыл бұрын
Ouch Finally got down to the brass jet to find an flat surface instead of a slot, How difficult to remove and change jet? Thx
@jasonfrat9813
@jasonfrat9813 5 жыл бұрын
If it is smooth across the surface of the brass you're seeing, I would say you have just a brass plug. Perhaps that carb is a different model and that is just a plug for cleaning purposes?
@bullmastiff9991
@bullmastiff9991 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks , Maybe so, after the drill didn't remove all the plug I tried a 1/8"reverse thrd screw , it backed the plug out along with the brass ring around it! The echo looks identical to yours , being 2 year old maybe the EPA change the carb design so its not possible to set , my luck.
@jasonfrat9813
@jasonfrat9813 5 жыл бұрын
@@bullmastiff9991 Yea very possible. Good luck with it!
@michaelparker5640
@michaelparker5640 Жыл бұрын
Always take the crappy factory carb off of the 225 and buy a 30$ carb off Amazon
@tacx1
@tacx1 Жыл бұрын
E-P-A…….extreme-people-aggregation !!!!
@jamesmordovancey517
@jamesmordovancey517 2 жыл бұрын
So you've adjusted it and now what? Do you replace that plug somehow or just leave it out?
@jasonfrat9813
@jasonfrat9813 2 жыл бұрын
Just leave it out. It serves no positive purpose, only a negative one by blocking your access.
@sun622
@sun622 5 жыл бұрын
I ruined the screw getting the plug out. Tried torx and drilling. It's difficult to tell when you're thru the plug until it's too late. HAS to be a better way.
@jasonfrat9813
@jasonfrat9813 5 жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear that, the only other thing I thought of was a small perhaps dental pick that you could pierce through the plastic plug and then hook it from the back and pull it out. However there is not much room between the plastic plug and the jet. Still worth saving the carb if you buy that jet online.
@sun622
@sun622 5 жыл бұрын
The blower works. The problem is worse now. I'll order another. Do they sell them without the plugs?
@jasonfrat9813
@jasonfrat9813 5 жыл бұрын
@@sun622 you can buy them without it but you can also just buy the Jet and save the cost of getting a new carb
@Bluesky-bx2ig
@Bluesky-bx2ig 5 жыл бұрын
My method, as suggested by another tuber, was to use a picture hanger screw small enough to fit. Forcing it in with needle nose pliers. Then when I feel its in far enough, I then wiggle and pull on it and out it comes easy easy! Hope this helps someone!
@jasonfrat9813
@jasonfrat9813 5 жыл бұрын
@@Bluesky-bx2ig Thanks for the advice.
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