Tuscan Vernacular | Can French and Spanish speakers understand it?

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The Tuscan Vernacular is a set of Italo-Dalmatian varieties of Romance languages mainly spoken in Tuscany, Italy. Standard Italian is based on Tuscan, specifically on its Florentine dialect, and it became the language of culture throughout Italy due to the prestige of the works by Dante Alighieri and many other writers. In this language challange we want to see how much of it is understood by French and Spanish speakers based on the mutual intelligibility phenomenon within the Romance language family.
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@Ecolinguist 2 жыл бұрын

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@jeremaronno1700 2 жыл бұрын

Thx for the video. Can t wait to watch the new one soon! Please do other language families like the finnish (1 estonian, 1 finnish) one, the celtic ( breton, welsh, irish) or english (,english dialects) or asian! You canal can grow again! Thats an awesome project!!

@fabiolimadasilva3398 2 жыл бұрын

Eu entendo! 😀

@sasino 2 жыл бұрын

Tuscan is completely intelligible with Italian, a better video idea would be to have someone from Sicily speak with someone from Veneto speak their regional mother tongues (or dialects) and try to understand each other

@fabiolimadasilva3398 2 жыл бұрын

@@sasino então não existem barreiras de entendimento entre os dialetos/línguas românicas na Itália?

@sasino 2 жыл бұрын

@@fabiolimadasilva3398 Yes there are barriers, but not between Tuscan and Italian, because Italian comes from Tuscan lol That's why, choosing a Venetian speaker and trying to make them talk with a Sicilian speaker would be harder, and would make a funnier video

@hashcosmos2181 2 жыл бұрын

I like poems in Vernacular Tuscan too, here's my favourite: “Se ni’ mondo esistesse un po’ di bene e ognun si honsiderasse suo fratello ci sarebbe meno pensieri e meno pene e il mondo ne sarebbe assai più bello”

@Hikaeme-od3zq 2 жыл бұрын

Bruh

@Lieturon92 2 жыл бұрын

Suddenly Pacciani

@toscasam1353 2 жыл бұрын

@@Lieturon92 posso parlare da i' banco?

@Lieturon92 2 жыл бұрын

@@toscasam1353 Certo, tanto RITHORNEREMOH (prima o dopo)

@FutureHH 2 жыл бұрын

P a c c i a n i

@mongrelrat 2 жыл бұрын

Ciao Samanta. Congratulazioni! E' la prima volta che sento un toscano parlare cosi a lungo senza dire neppure una parolaccia o una bestemmia 😅

@toscasam1353 2 жыл бұрын

Grazie! È stato difficile🤡

@alicecreamcake Жыл бұрын

uguale e sono toscana ☝🏻

@alessandrom7181 Жыл бұрын

Io ho sentito i lombardi e i liguri bestemmiare come intercalare a differenza dei toscani.

@giulianorivieri2806 11 ай бұрын

Ahahaha

@Mr._Stein_goes_on_rails 9 ай бұрын

@@toscasam1353Ciao, Samanta! Sono stato curioso da vederti. Grazie!

@Claxen11 2 жыл бұрын

She was such a funny and chirpy speaker. I loved it. The 38 minutes went by so fast.

@wyqtor 2 жыл бұрын

Italian Girl

@Claxen11 2 жыл бұрын

@@wyqtor Tuscan Italian Girl. You won't think it makes a difference but it does.

@cosettapessa6417 2 жыл бұрын

@@wyqtor 😆

@markjosephbacho5652 2 жыл бұрын

What? That's 38 minutes? I didn't even notice😯

@bacicinvatteneaca Жыл бұрын

A general rule is that all tuscans are comedians. Some great, some awful, but all comedians.

@philomelodia 2 жыл бұрын

No problem at all. Understood her perfectly. It sounds like modern Italian with the hard C replaced by an H in a lot of words. In spite of this, she is perfectly intelligible to me. Native Spanish speaker here.

@purai28 2 жыл бұрын

Me impressionou como demoraram para entender a palavra jogo.

@philomelodia 2 жыл бұрын

@@purai28 es muy importante deducir los sonidos correspondientes en las lenguas romances. Por ejemplo, el español no pudo deducir que ella pronuncia la C Como el pronuncia la J Y que ella pronuncia la J Como el pronuncia la Y. Para el francés, la cosa es mucho más complicada porque, en su lengua, muchas sílabas del latín original desaparecieron. Para un hablante de portugués, gioco suena bastante parecido a jogo por qué el sonido inicial es correspondiente. En español, esta palabra es juego Y se pronuncia como un carioca diría “ruego”. Bastante diferente.

@eugeneylliez829 2 жыл бұрын

And something like an english "th" instead of intervocalic non accented "t". Analogue situation for "p" which becomes a non sibilant bilabial fricative /ɸ/ (IPA) to my ears.

@juansebastianquinteroardil7385 2 жыл бұрын

I’m a native spanish speaker too and it was really hard to me to get the words without reading the transcription… very difficult!

@guidoylosfreaks 2 жыл бұрын

Yo también le entendí todo pero estudie italiano estándar varios años.

@MarynaRGurzuf 2 жыл бұрын

The Romance languages, especially the Italian dialects, sound like music to me. It's beautiful! 😍

@ITALICVS 2 жыл бұрын

Italian doesn't have dialects. In Italy we speak many languages , each with its own dialects, and these are languages separated from Italian.

@MarynaRGurzuf 2 жыл бұрын

@@ITALICVS sorry, if I used the term inaccurately.

@ITALICVS 2 жыл бұрын

@@MarynaRGurzuf Don't worry, it can be interesting to know

@Jormunn 2 жыл бұрын

@@ITALICVS toscano e romano sono effettivamente gli unici dialetti veri e propri dell'italiano.

@ITALICVS 2 жыл бұрын

@@Jormunn anche il Corso

@zmaja 2 жыл бұрын

As a Slavic language native speaker who grew up watching Italian TV, I can say I understood Tuscan perfectly and that I noticed my understanding of other Romance languages increase thanks to Ecolinguist channel ;) You were great. As always... superb content, phenomenal guests. Hvala.

@karldo4809 2 жыл бұрын

its the same thing 🤣.

@zmaja 2 жыл бұрын

@@karldo4809 hahaha, yes

@smtuscany 2 жыл бұрын

The so-called "gorgia toscana" (i.e. this pronunciation system) in reality involves more consonants than just that C->H. Basically some consonants are "softened" when they are between two vowels if the first vowel is not the one with the main stress. La casa -> La hasa (or La 'asa in northwest Tuscany) Speciale -> Speshale Grigio -> Grijo (french J) Patata -> Pathatha (yes, the English th in thick) Sometimes and in some areas t -> English h or disappears whatsoever Capire -> Caphire (ph means a non-plosive P, like blowing air, probably from Etruscan ph)

@hoathanatos6179 2 жыл бұрын

It's very similar to dialects of Sardinian that also experience these forms of lenition.

@aleee641 2 жыл бұрын

The gorgia in P has nothing to do with the Etruscan language. This was already exctinct in a very ancient phase of the Latin language. Medieval Italian (namely: Tuscanian) didn't leave any trace of a different pronunciation of the P from our modern standard Italian one.

@marinaaaa2735 2 жыл бұрын

That's beautiful. It's the same as Spanish lenition but with the unvoiced plosives instead of the voiced ones.

@augustus6178 2 жыл бұрын

Ovviamente la ragazza come dice ha influssi pisani, quindi sostituisce molte volte la lettera L con la R (ovviamente il pisano-livornese e il grossetano non hanno la gorgia toscana)

@smtuscany 2 жыл бұрын

@@augustus6178 Non è che non ce l’hanno, ne hanno una versione con regole leggermente diverse

@lindagianini1748 2 жыл бұрын

In french the equivalent of "gobbo/fante" should be "valet", I think :) Anyway, the three words (Tuscan, Italian and french) have completely different meanings, even if in card games they are the same character! This is very interesting!

@laurentsalomonoriginals3438 2 жыл бұрын

Oui, c' est bien le valet et non le joker.

@stephanedumas8329 2 жыл бұрын

Tout à fait c'est valet

@mimiteas 2 жыл бұрын

In Serbia, the name of that card is "žandarm" which is basically a French word, so I was expecting "gendarme" to be the French answer... 🙃

@7_KrOlja_7 2 жыл бұрын

In russian the same, valet

@wertyuiopasd6281 2 жыл бұрын

@@7_KrOlja_7 valet in russian comes from french

@rsnankivell1962 2 жыл бұрын

In this video, I'd say both of them were a bit "slow" to guess not very difficult words ... The cards that the girl calls "Neapolitan cards" are actually "Spanish cards", brought by the Spaniards to the kingdom of Naples and Sicily, belonging to the Spanish crown for many centuries. The "Jack" in Spanish is the "Sota", I guess.

@purai28 2 жыл бұрын

Some people I know here in Brazil say “sota” for queen and they don’t have any acknowledge of this word in Spanish. In Brazilian Portuguese we frequently call jack as “valete”, which may came from the French word “valet”.

@rice-a-roni 2 жыл бұрын

The "jack" is "sota" in the Spanish deck, but "jota" in the French one!

@lingux_yt 2 жыл бұрын

@@purai28 sota no Brasil? que legal, nunca escutei. "sôta" ou "sóta"?

@purai28 2 жыл бұрын

@@lingux_yt fiz confusão. kkkkkkk Na verdade, chamam a dama de sota. Soa como “sóta”.

@lingux_yt 2 жыл бұрын

@@purai28 que legal

@airindd5528 2 жыл бұрын

Oh yes! Romance languages are back! I hope we have the Latin vs the other romance languages again very soon ☺️

@Forlfir 2 жыл бұрын

I basically understand everything (I speak Portuguese, Spanish, French and my understanding of Italian is pretty advanced)

@user-ic4ce8xb5v 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Norbert and participants! I am advanced in French, intermediate in Spanish, beginner in Italian so this one was easy

@broccoli9308 2 жыл бұрын

It's crazy how the pronunciation of the C is single-handedly lowering the comprehensibility by this much.

@Hikaeme-od3zq 2 жыл бұрын

Tuscan is definitely one of the most particular regional languages in Italy, it also varies in the region itself, as the girl was saying at the start of the video, in some areas of Tuscany they actually pronounce the hard C properly or instead of pronouncing it by inhaling it they exhale it. Really weird stuff but it's probably the most intelligible dialect aside from the Roman dialect, that the average italian speaker can understand.

@JCMH 2 жыл бұрын

Yes, the _gorgia toscana._

@yoo571 2 жыл бұрын

Great video, here in Argentina the "grifo" is most commonly called "canilla", very similar to the tuscan word

@AndreaAvila78 2 жыл бұрын

You're right! I thought about that too!

@CaptainNoch 2 жыл бұрын

Probably because of Lunfardo in Rioplatenese Spanish, which has many slang words that originated from Italian and various Italian languages.

@yoo571 2 жыл бұрын

@@CaptainNoch yes, that's what I was thinking

@AndreaAvila78 2 жыл бұрын

@@CaptainNoch Yes, that's right!

@davidparraserna6651 2 жыл бұрын

I don't know why do we have to talk in english but here in Colombia "grifo"is commonly called "canilla" too Argentina y Colombia 💪👍

@kencastillo9976 2 жыл бұрын

I’m from Tuscany! I felt too honored to watch this video! Keep it up 👍👍

@nielzene9656 2 жыл бұрын

I speak both French and Spanish (learned both), and I understood about 80% of what she was saying. I also got to guess all 5 of the words!

@benj.bloomgren3680 2 жыл бұрын

I like the Tuscan dialect. It's generally easy for me to understand as a learner but it has some wildness to it, such as that famous gorgia toscana!

@user-uz7gb7gb4v 2 жыл бұрын

A couple of notes: 1) "gobbo" in French should be valet and not joker. 2) there are more suitable words in French for "ficoso": pleurnichard or geignard. Samantha even alluded to the character from Harry Potter, Moaning Myrtle, who is called "Mimi Geignarde" in the French version.

@angelolaurenzaMJJ 2 жыл бұрын

This character is called Mirtilla Malcontenta in italian. Pretty close to the guess of the french speaker.

@ivanmolero7829 6 ай бұрын

@@angelolaurenzaMJJ In my opinion "ficoso" or "piagnucolone" are better described in French as "geignard" or "pleurnicheur". "Malcontent" (or "mécontent)" although related, differ in some respects. A person can be "malcontent" and not show it, nor tell anybody. A "geignard" or "pleurnicheur" makes it his business to make the entire world aware of how miserable he feels or how unlucky he is. Somebody who is "malcontent" might take joint action with other people who are also "malcontent", with the aim of changing the conditions at work or resolve some problem in society, or whatever is the source of their "malcontentement". The "geignard" or "pleurnicheur" is more passive and tends to not take action (individual or collective). The "malcontent" is a non-conformist, while the "geignard" or "pleurnicheur" is a conformist, or fatalist even.

@martelkapo 2 жыл бұрын

Another awesome video from Norbert & crew! Samantha has such an infectious energy, she was fantastic. Jen la prezentitaj vortoj en Esperanto: 1. *krano* (el la pola "kran" & la rusa "кран") 2. *fanto* (el la itala "fante") aŭ *bubo* (el la germana "Bube") 3. formiko (el la itala "formica") 4. verŝajne *grumblulo* aŭ *plendulo* , mi ne tute certas sed mi uzus unu el tiuj du 5. *kapkuseno* (el la vortoj "kapo" & "kuseno")

@shido534 8 ай бұрын

20:00 Love seeing the interactions with false friends. "¿Es un ave?" "No, non è un ape." 20 seconds later: "Un oiseau..." "No, non è un uccello."

@ellev5401 2 жыл бұрын

Very interesting Tuscan. Thank you Norbert. I always enjoy these.

@davi99ful 2 жыл бұрын

That was interesting, I found the Tuscan pronunciation quite a bit harder than the standard Italian, but I still managed to get all of them mainly because the subtitles helped me a lot in some parts. In Brazilian Portuguese those would be: 1. torneira 2. valete 3. formiga 4. chorão (initially I thought of "ranzinza" or "resmungão" in PT, but when she said something about that one child that always make drama for nothing, chorão would be the right infantile word imo) 5. travesseiro / almofada (travesseiro only for the bed ones, almofada for the smaller ones in sofas and armchairs)

@Weissenschenkel 2 жыл бұрын

De qual parte do Brasil tu és? Aqui no RS a gente diz "chorão" também e algumas vezes "pessimista" se encaixa no contexto como descrição genérica. O "chorão" é também aquele que a gente chama de "pidão" ou alguém que fica pedindo (chorando) por algum desconto/brinde/vantagem, não apenas no plano financeiro mas no sentimental também. Saudações!

@pedromenchik1961 2 жыл бұрын

I thought of "reclamão" for 4)

@diogorodrigues747 2 жыл бұрын

4 - I actually thought more as "mal-humorado" or "mal-disposto". 5 - In Portugal we use "almofada" in both cases. "Travesseiro" is a cake (and a very good one indeed).

@fabriziospadi9478 2 жыл бұрын

Incredible! I understood 100% of what she said!!! Ah wait... I am "Toscano" as well... :)

@toscasam1353 2 жыл бұрын

De allora de 🤣❤️

@fabriziospadi9478 2 жыл бұрын

@@toscasam1353 de, comunque de, brava de! ;)

@nicolamariani81 2 жыл бұрын

@@fabriziospadi9478 Sono toscano anche io, ma l'unica parola che avevo indovinato è "guanciale", perché è l'unica che si dice anche a Lucca, da dove vengo io.

@emuka-art Жыл бұрын

so as a toscano, you expected not to understand your own dialect?

@fabriziospadi9478 Жыл бұрын

@@emuka-art 😆! Just checking how much the others would understand of the vernacular tuscan

@michele3900 2 жыл бұрын

La hoha hola hon la hanuccia horta horta :)

@esti-od1mz 2 жыл бұрын

As a Sicilian speaker, the sicilian language did have privileged ties with Tuscany and its vernacular, since the tuscanian literature saw the sicilian poetries as an example to follow, since the latter is the first language of Italy used in a court and in literature ( sicilian and tuscanian - so also italian - share most of their features and use same poetic patterns). So we both have many archaic words that look the same: Tosc. Incignato / Sic. Ncignatu ( italian incignato, not used) Tosc. Iuso / Sic. Iusu ( iuso is also italian, but archaic) Tosc. Suso/ Sic. Susu ( also suso in italian, archaic too)

@dersven4122 2 жыл бұрын

Interesting, iuso and suso are used in my apulian dialect too

@esti-od1mz 2 жыл бұрын

@@dersven4122 cool. Are they pronounced as in Italian? However, to me is not a big surprise: apulian dialects are still part of the italo dalmatian group!

@brunobassi2440 Жыл бұрын

@@esti-od1mz considerando che anche la lingua siciliana è sempre stata molto prolifica, probabilmente la scelta di una parlata centrale già usata dai genovesi e dai romani in sostituzione del latino per commerci e contratti e poi comprensibile dai veneziani con facilità.... Vabbè ci siamo capiti perché altrimenti il maggior numero di locutori spettava alla lingua napoletana.

@ivanmolero7829 6 ай бұрын

In Spanish you also have "suso" and "ayuso" which are used in some special contexts.

@gavinopiana2869 15 күн бұрын

In Sassarese (dialetto imparentato al Toscano/Corso) per Iuso usiamo la parola Jossu o Giossu

@AndreaAvila78 2 жыл бұрын

Me encantó! Pude adivinar 4 palabras! La de la carta no sabía el nombre en español. Excelente video Gracias!!! Me encantan el italiano y el francés! Son lenguas bellísimas!

@MickyBane 2 жыл бұрын

¿Y cuál es el nombre en español?

@AndreaAvila78 2 жыл бұрын

@@MickyBane Jota o Sota

@MickyBane 2 жыл бұрын

@@AndreaAvila78 gracias!

@JCMH 2 жыл бұрын

@@MickyBane "Sota" si es la de la baraja española; "jota" si es la de la baraja francesa.

@AdamSlatopolsky 2 жыл бұрын

There are different cards in Spain with different characters, It is called: "Baraja española". That's why even understanding her explanation, I did not know what she was refering to.

@gerardomalazdrewicz7514 2 жыл бұрын

In fact, the neapolitan deck Samantha mentioned is basically the same as the spanish deck Adán mentions here. Same suits, same pictures, the spanish deck has numbers in the corners (1 to 12) and each card is has a rectangular border while the neapolitan has none of these, just the picture

@littlewishy6432 2 жыл бұрын

The word should be “jota”

@vnietov 2 жыл бұрын

Spanish speaker here. I could easily understand the 5 words. Tuscan is practically Italian to my ears. Although, it was a bit dissapointing that the Spanish guy could not get most of the conversation. He was probably nervous. Any of the previous spanish speakers who have appeared on your channel could have easily guessed the words, I believe. Best Regards from Monterrey, Mexico.

@RogerRamos1993 2 жыл бұрын

I guess he has little to no no exposure to Italian. If that's the case, he would be a good subject in an intelligibility test.

@cosettapessa6417 2 жыл бұрын

@@RogerRamos1993 true

@educontrerascarmona8664 2 жыл бұрын

Creo que le faltaba un poco de léxico. ¿Cómo puedes decir que no encuentra equivalentes a whiner cuando en la misma descripción utiliza el verbo "quejarse" pues de ahí "quejica"? Aunque es cierto que puede que los nervios jugasen su papel.

@RogerRamos1993 2 жыл бұрын

@@educontrerascarmona8664 No se puede decir quejoso, también? En portugués se puede decir queixoso, pero suena reformal. En este caso diríamos chorão (llorón), reclamão (reclamón?) o ranzinza/rabugento.

@RonFer1945 2 жыл бұрын

In Portsmouth, England, a 'moaner' or 'whiner' would be called a 'squinnie'.

@nirutivan9811 2 жыл бұрын

In German: 1. Wasserhahn 2. Under (That‘s Swiss, I don‘t know how they call this card in Germany. Could be the same, but I don‘t know) 3. Ameise 4. Jammeri (That‘s Swiss German again… Couldn‘t find a Standard German word that has that Meaning…) 5. Kissen (Chüssi in my Swiss German dialect) For me, as a native (Swiss) German speaker, who also learned some Italian and French, it was pretty easy to understand her. It was pretty similar to the standard Italian I learned. Though I didn‘t get the 3rd one (I new it is an insect, but not which one).

@MickyBane 2 жыл бұрын

Como persona que habla español nativo debo decir que el toscano me suena al italiano de toda la vida, sólo que no llego a entenderlo tanto como al italiano. Curioso.

@JCMH 2 жыл бұрын

La _gorgia toscana_ puede ayudar a que no sea tan claro como el italiano estándar.

@ivanmolero7829 6 ай бұрын

Es porque el italiano estándar está basado en gran parte en el toscano. Tienen algunas palabras propias que difieren del italiano estándar sin embargo. Lo más destacado de la pronunciación toscana es que pronuncian la "c" en las sílabas "ca", "co", "cu" como una "h" aspirada (igual que en inglés). Una vez tuve el siguiente diálogo con un peluquero en Fiesole, a las afueras de Florencia: el peluquero que me pregunta "¿home vi lo horto?" ; y yo que le respondo "¡corto!; y él "¿horto horto?; y yo "¡sì!". Otro ejemplo que observé fue en un bar en Florencia donde un señor pidió al camarero que le trajera "una hohahola e un hafè happucino". Otra cosa curiosa es que he observado a algunos toscanos, no todos, pronunciar la doble zeta, "zz", como en españa se pronuncia la zeta (con ceceo), aunque la chica en el video no lo hace.

@maignialfrancois8170 2 жыл бұрын

En occitan lengadocian (sud de França): 1: canèla 2: vailet 3: formiga 4: bramaire 5: coissin

@yosh1907 2 жыл бұрын

Okay, gracias Santiago ! Lol. I'm French, I can speak Spanish but never learned Italian, but since it's a latin language I understood a bit of what Samantha said. Somehow I had no problem finding the two first words, couldn't find the third one and found the last two thanks to Santiago's comments haha! "Gobbo" in French is "valet", which sounds a little bit like "vale" in Spanish. When Santiago said "vale, vale" at 12:12 I was like "YES, that's the word!!" x) Again a fun video! Thank you Ecolinguist!

@DomingosCJM Жыл бұрын

In portuguese we use the word "valete" derived from french "valet", so the order is 'valete' 'dama' 'rei'.

@Gizmonips 2 жыл бұрын

I tried this without reading the subtitles as an American who understands most Spanish. This one was really hard for me. The C becoming the H sound really threw me off, but I got 1, 3, and 4 by myself and 5 with the help of the Spanish speaker. I understood the French speaker much more than her lol.

@cosettapessa6417 2 жыл бұрын

😳👍👍

@massimilianoangelofedel7116 2 жыл бұрын

yes this toscan is hard because they pronounce H not C, casa in toscan is c.hasa :D

@mamymimma 2 жыл бұрын

It's always a pleasure to watch these videos, thank you :)

@iulianbogasieru5919 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks as always for this. The Tuscan Gorge - heard about it; great to hear it from a native speaker. For me, as a native Romanian speaker from Moldova, with exposure to various Romance languages, it was easy to understand her and note some parallels with Romanian varieties. The words in Romanian are: 1. Robinet - borrowed from French. Interestingly, checked in the dictionaries and apparently canela or canea is used for barrel taps. Never heard of canela or canea being used in my area though. 2. Valet - originally French, simply because modern playing cards in this part of Europe were copying the French or German designs. Fante is another word for the figure, but never heard it used where I come from. 3. Furnica - descendant of Latin formica. 4. Plangacios - derived from plangere/a plange. Other words can be used too, but since she mentioned babies that's the word used for babies or children who whine. 5. Perna. That's of Slavic or even Southern Slavic origin. I heard stories of the confusion it creates between Spanish and Romanian speakers ;-).

@DeeDee-ud2rg 2 жыл бұрын

I love the way she speaks Italian, it sounds very elegant.

@mimiteas 2 жыл бұрын

Loved it! ♥️ I have guessed all the words and that makes me happy! 😊 While I was just listening I was not very successful, but reading while listening was of great help, so thank you for providing that on screen for us. The first time I watch, I turn on the CC only when the words are being revealed and then I watch the video again with CC on the whole time, just to see what I've missed.🙃 Thank you for making these. It is so much fun to guess! 😊

@samuthemapper600 7 ай бұрын

i am also from Tuscany, i'm proud to see this.

@mandarinesalon1937 2 жыл бұрын

I got the general meaning of ficoso, I am not sure of its specifics meaning, but they are some options in french: Pleurnichard (complain and cry at the same time) Geignard (complain in weak and inarticulate way) Lamenteur (used in a formal context), Plaignard (most generic term) Chialeur/chialeux (usage widely spead in laurentian and acadian french)

@ArturoSubutex Жыл бұрын

What about râleur? the Frenchest of them all!

@justinherrera3722 9 ай бұрын

In Spanish it would be like: Quejumbroso: someone that complains about everything Llorón/Llorona (yes, like the Mexican tale): someone that cries or whines but in a more childish way Amargado/amargada: someone that whines about everything but in a malicious or tired way And “berrinchudo/a” which is like a combination of the former words listed

@pomeoxfl 2 жыл бұрын

Can't believe that these guys don't play cards and don't know 'Jack'

@ff_crafter 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome video as always

@xaviermotllorigal6221 2 жыл бұрын

Fòrça interessant, coma totjorn. En occitan, dins la varianta lengadociana : - Canèla - Vailet - Formiga - Repotegaire ; Plorinejaire - Coissin

@DomingosCJM Жыл бұрын

Português: - Torneira - Valete - Formiga - Queixoso, choroso, chorão - Travesseiro

@MrsElianaFiorini 2 жыл бұрын

Eu amo este canal! Sempre aprendo palavras novas em todos os idiomas!

@ggiiaaccoommoo 2 жыл бұрын

This brings me back to when I was studying at the university in Pisa. The first months I didn't understand all these strange tuscan words they use. But now I understand everything.

@MountainMitch 2 жыл бұрын

Another fantastic video!

@3000andro 2 жыл бұрын

Great video! I could understand a decent part of what Samantha was saying (as a spanish native speaker). As an extra note: A Jack in spanish is called "sota".

@angyliv8040 Жыл бұрын

Si es la sota pero no va después de la reina o yo lo he entendido mal o me parecía que decía eso. Nosotros jugamos a la baraja española en general.

@3000andro Жыл бұрын

@@angyliv8040 en ese caso lo mas seguro es que esten hablando de la baraja francesa, donde la sota va "despues" de la reina (K -> Q -> J)

@alessandrodaqui3554 2 жыл бұрын

I'm very happy to listen a friend of mine in a video of this channel! Of course, after years of friendship and living in Tuscany I understand every single word out of her and her fellow cospeakers, but I remember several misunderstandings between me and her about the language during our first dates! From an Italian who's used to listen both sicilian and milanese dialects

@toscasam1353 2 жыл бұрын

Aleee❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ ti voglio un monte di bene!!!

@nefastad 2 жыл бұрын

i love this channel 😌👌

@muskegmudsuck 2 жыл бұрын

This was fun! I got #1,3, and 5. I kept thinking #2 was the pope...Thank you for another great vid!

@SR-kh6yq 2 жыл бұрын

This is basically "Italian: Can French and Spanish speakers understand it?" 😂 (okay it's slightly different here and there but not that much)

@philomelodia 2 жыл бұрын

Easy as falling out of bed for me. It made it even easier the fact that I know Spanish, Portuguese, French and Italian. No problem at all. To me, it just sounded like a quirkier version of Italian with a few new words and an interesting accent where a lot of c’s turned into Hs.

@lissandrafreljord7913 2 жыл бұрын

Tuscan is basically Italian, much like Castilian is Spanish. The only difference I hear is that the Tuscan girl aspirates her hard C sound (ca = ha, che = he, chi = hi, co = ho, cu = hu). In Spanish, this also happens with the S. The dialects that had more Southern Spanish influence from Andalucia and the Canary Islands all aspirate their S. So basically all the Caribbean Hispanic countries (Cuba, DR, PR, plus most of Venezuela, Caribbean coast of Colombia, Gulf coast of Mexico, and most of Central America, minus Costa Rica and Guatemala), Pacific Coast of South America (Colombia, Ecuador, Peru), plus entire Southern Cone (Chile, Agentina, Uruguay, Paraguay). Venezuela and Nicaragua, especially aspirate everything.

@nerd8968 2 жыл бұрын

@@philomelodia The modern Italian came from Tuscany, that's why. The dialects of "middle" of Italy are very similar to italian language, Tuscan and Roman are basically Italian with different accent and some words changed. If you heard nordern or southern dialects they are very different from standard italian...Sorry for the bad english 😄

@leonardobartolini127 2 жыл бұрын

Grande video, mi ha fatto sentire a casa!

@mediastarguest 2 жыл бұрын

At the beginning the young lady is speaking standard Italian very clearly, which as others on this thread have already pointed out is derived from Tuscan. What could possibly provide or allow the use of water in a kitchen ? Sink ? Tap ? ANSWER, FIRST WORD: tap / taps, in American English; faucet. I got it after about a minute, even though I don't speak fluent Italian or Spanish (but can understand both up to a point as long as they are spoken slowly) and speak no French at all, and despite having no university or further education whatsoever. Just as well I've been practising and using the very underrated art of common sense for the last fifty years.

@loosilu 2 жыл бұрын

In Quebec we call the Jack un valet. Joker is not the same card.

@kodekadkodekad4380 2 жыл бұрын

Same in France, it's called a valet, totally different from joker.

@broccoli9308 2 жыл бұрын

Same in France, they misunderstood what she meant.

@wertyuiopasd6281 2 жыл бұрын

Les angloys se sont même immiscés dans les cartes apparemment.

@williammoon7774 2 жыл бұрын

Exactement. Il ne doit pas avoir beaucoup joué aux cartes en France

@brunobassi2440 Жыл бұрын

Toscana: Joker = la matta Jack = il gobbo

@Edgar_Cantu432 2 жыл бұрын

Interesante el dialecto Toscano tiene buen flow, me pasaría la tarde escuchando 👂 me encanta. En México lo conocemos como grifo o llave del agua 🚰, lo de la carta fue confuso porque dijo que está arriba del todo, en México la conocemos como el Jack o también la Jota, algunos dicen el Joto pero es un poco despectivo eso

@christopherellis2663 2 жыл бұрын

Has similarity with Romanian including retention of h, and qu> ci

@claudioristagno6460 2 жыл бұрын

It is basically italian with a couple of different words. It sounds very nice though, all italians find that tuscan is so "simpatico"

@niccoloamoroso5942 2 жыл бұрын

regio me fa morì

@claudioristagno6460 2 жыл бұрын

ah ah vero

@ijansk Жыл бұрын

The second challenge, I went from a clown, then a puppet and then I understood she was talking about cards, the hierarchy of characters in cards. The card she was talking about which is symbolised with a J we simply call it "jota" over here which is how we call letter J in Spanish. As for the fourth challenge a more accurate word in Spanish would be "quejumbroso".

@kodekadkodekad4380 2 жыл бұрын

There's a French adjective that fits pretty well the description of "ficoso" and it's "râleur". "Geignard" is also used. And I know which quite vulgar word Bastien had on his mind... but I'm not gonna say it 😁

@moidadou4266 2 жыл бұрын

J’avais pensé à aigri

@antoinesubitlescoups338 2 жыл бұрын

Pleurnicheur marche aussi

@kodekadkodekad4380 2 жыл бұрын

@@antoinesubitlescoups338 Oui, j'y ai pensé aussi, comme "grincheux".

@jonathanwalls6760 2 жыл бұрын

Hey my native dialect! This is fantastic!

@kellycosta3959 2 жыл бұрын

Romance language wise, French is really more distant from Portuguese, Spanish and Italian. You see the Spanish guy could understand way better the Italian girl than the French. I got most of the words as well even though I can't speak Italian (but I speak Portuguese, Spanish and French).

@stephanedumas8329 2 жыл бұрын

French branch Gallo romance French simular Lombard Catalan piedmont occitan etc

@wyqtor 2 жыл бұрын

From Romanian, with an overall B2 level understanding of standard Italian, I could understand her pretty well, about the same as the Corsican speaker. The cards word was very easy to guess for me. Romanian is probably even further away than French because of the partially Slavic vocabulary, but on the other hand the phonetics are a lot closer to Spanish and Italian. But if you pick only Latin-derived words, I'm sure Italians and Spaniards can understand Romanian pretty well.

@tonyhawk94 2 жыл бұрын

The pronouciation of French was influenced by the Germanic languages. The difference of French can also be explained with geography, being cut off from the Italian and Iberian peninsula, French retained some latin archaïsm. :)

@vashthestampede4716 2 жыл бұрын

That's cool. Nice video!! I'm from Brazil, speak native Portuguese and I could understand a lot, those 3 languages. The subtitles make things much easier. Of course, there are some words of the vocabulary that I don't understand.

@Weissenschenkel 2 жыл бұрын

I'm surprised that I could understand 4 out of 5 with my very poor knowledge in standard Italian. Words in Brazilian Portuguese below: 1. Torneira (faucet/tap) - I'm unsure if "faucet" is a word still in use for a kitchen's water tap 2. Valete (Jack) - that was easy, since I play poker and other card games 3. Formiga (ant) - I honestly thought it was a cockroach (barata) so that's the one I missed. I suppose it's because I understood that insect could fly but doesn't do very often. Well, ants can't fly at all... 4. Chorão (moaner) - to me it reminds of Hardy Har-har, a hyena who clearly suffers from dystimia 5. Travesseiro/almofada (pillow/cushion) - the 1st one is only for resting a head on, the second is the one we find over couches, armchairs, etc. We also have a thin version we use onto wooden chairs and rocker chairs that we call it "futon" (it's more like a pad to sit on.) Something that grabbed my attention were the "C" sounds, sometimes sounded like "K" and sometimes like Spanish "G/J" or a French "R," notably in words like "gioco" having both pronunciations. That confused me a lot. 🤣 Thanks for sharing, Norbert!

@gvisir 2 жыл бұрын

Hi, ants fly during breeding season, only few male and female fly to reach new places for a colony.

@JCMH 2 жыл бұрын

"Something that grabbed my attention were the "C" sounds, sometimes sounded like "K" and sometimes like Spanish "G/J" or a French "R," notably in words like "gioco" having both pronunciations. That confused me a lot." It's the famous _gorgia toscana._

@d2xr 2 жыл бұрын

YOOO I BEEN WAITING FOR ANOTHER FRENCH VS SPANISH ITS LIT

@usteckejvidlak 2 жыл бұрын

Great video Norbert! Will there ever be more slavic / Czech / Polish conversations? Really excited to see more of those!

@Ecolinguist 2 жыл бұрын

A big announcement is coming soon. :)

@usteckejvidlak 2 жыл бұрын

@@Ecolinguist Awesome. Can't wait :)

@bremexperience 2 жыл бұрын

Ce n'est pas le joker en français mais le valet.

@stephanedumas8329 2 жыл бұрын

Je ne sais pas d'où il sort Joker ? Il est resté un peu trop au États-Unis 😂

@wertyuiopasd6281 2 жыл бұрын

@@stephanedumas8329 J'avoue là que c'était une évidence. Je ne parle ni l'italien ni l'espagnol mais elle a littéralement dit "cartas" ensuite compté de 1 à 10 puis "rei" "donna". Sérieusement, je suis sur le cul qu'il ait pas trouvé avec tout ça, je n'ai même pas regardé le texte personnellement.

@wertyuiopasd6281 2 жыл бұрын

@@stephanedumas8329 Un parisien sans doute. 😂😂 Citoyen du monde mdr.

@bremexperience 2 жыл бұрын

@@stephanedumas8329 je t'assure qu'aux USA ils disent Jack.

@kodekadkodekad4380 2 жыл бұрын

By the way, the second word in French is "valet", not "joker"! It's quite obvious that Santiago and Bastien are not very familiar with card games.

@purai28 2 жыл бұрын

I understood quite easily what she said about this one. In Brazilian Portuguese it’s “valete”, it seems like it came from the same root as the French word.

@wyqtor 2 жыл бұрын

In Romanian too it's 'valet', probably because we borrowed the modern games of cards from the French.

@kodekadkodekad4380 2 жыл бұрын

@@purai28 It doesn't come from the "same root", it was directly borrowed from French.

@kodekadkodekad4380 2 жыл бұрын

@@wyqtor You're correct 🙂

@purai28 2 жыл бұрын

@@kodekadkodekad4380 well, even being borrowed, it comes from the same root, no?

@teocantsleep4611 2 жыл бұрын

In Uruguay and Argentina you can call the faucet "canilla", very interesting

@aquiestamos3567 2 жыл бұрын

5:28 more than once I realized that the letter "C" sounds "H". Like in this word "Cannella".

@hicetnuncmonamour 2 жыл бұрын

I like how the c is pronounced in Tuscan 🇨🇵 ¹ robinet ² valet ³ fourmi ⁴ râleur/râleuse ; pleurnicheur/pleurnicheuse ⁵ oreiller

@GBTracks 2 жыл бұрын

En Argentina decimos "canilla", muy parecida a "cannella". "Ficoso" acá sería "quejoso" para nosotros.

@rezzoc91 2 жыл бұрын

I'm here waiting for Ligurian ;) nice vernacular Tuscan nevertheless, always nice to hear the proper accent

@conniehellinger9934 2 жыл бұрын

Great g to hear Tuscan!

@luca4562 2 жыл бұрын

L'accento toscano è molto particolare ma anche molto del suo vocabolario. Per il resto è quasi uguale all'italiano standard praticamente,

@gigieinaudi24 2 жыл бұрын

l'italiano è variante letteraria medievale del dialetto toscano orientale. ovviamente sono la stessa cosa su livelli spaziotemporali distinti. il corso pure è parte dello stesso sistema anche se si basa sulle parlate del toscano occidentale e settentrionale.

@ivanmolero7829 Жыл бұрын

In Spanish the card in question (the jack, or knave) is called "sota". And in French it is called "le valet" and not "le joker".

@septiros 2 жыл бұрын

Theres so much I need to learn

@samuelmancini7848 2 жыл бұрын

Where i come from in Tuscany (in between Empoli, Pisa and Pistoia) "Cutera" it's used only for the ant with the red head that bites, i never heard of "Ghizza" before. Overall we speak a bit differently, with less "r"'s and maybe more cuts at the end of verbs.

@Walter-go2wy 2 жыл бұрын

Io sono Aretino praticamente niente di tutto ciò “ ci rappresenta”😂😂😅

@wyqtor 2 жыл бұрын

Interestingly enough, in Romanian we have a word 'gâză' (pronounced with English 'z', the 'â' vowel similar to u in 'pleasure', and 'ă' like the indefinite article a), which is an older, less-used variant for 'insectă'. I checked the etymological dictionary and the origins of the word are very murky. But given the similarities with Tuscan, it might have come from vulgar Latin after all.

@Samah_Morph_exe 2 жыл бұрын

Qui a Lucca un avevo mai sentito dire ne "Cutera" per le formiche rosse ne la parola "Ghizza". Poi qui a Lucca un si dice "Ficoso" ma "Fioso" quindi togliamo la 'c'. Che poi anche da noi si parla con meno 'r', lei la scandisce/accenta molto.

@robertopinzani6774 2 жыл бұрын

Cudera ,non cutera e roba senese, ghizzo e' Fiorentino ma a sudde dell arno montespertoli e giu' di li, te sei di' padule di fucecchio, o robe simili, le formiche un l avete avete artro che granocchie e bisce in qui' i padule.

@humbertogvgv3728 2 жыл бұрын

La carta en español, es la sota o tambien se lo conoce como paje

@matheuslegall 2 жыл бұрын

I'm a native Portuguese speaker and I could understand 85% of what she was saying

@federicocip85 2 жыл бұрын

Sto video mi ha fatto venire voglia di ritornare a Firenze che adoro! (e la Toscana ovviamente tutta) 😍❤

@DeFeGe-zs4cv 2 жыл бұрын

Great like always! What about a video with a Romanesco dialect speaker?

@markjosephbacho5652 2 жыл бұрын

En Filipino, decimos "grifo" también pero con "P", entonces, "gripo." Y para referirse a una persona que es "whiner," decimos "reklamador" (desde la palabra española quiza) o usamos simplemente la palabra en ingles "bitter" 😆

@MrProgtuga 2 жыл бұрын

A video with Mirandese (Portuguese dialect) would be kewl 😁 Some Sicilian also!

@DomingosCJM Жыл бұрын

@Eu gosto de Choux Cream Na Wikipédia 15.000 pessoas falam mirandês, me parece q vai ser um pouco difícil encontrar alguém.

@fabiolimadasilva3398 Жыл бұрын

Many aspirated sounds in this dialect. Interesting!

@angelantoniochirinosamaro 2 жыл бұрын

Wow! Me encantaría participar en esto! Cómo podría hacerse? O sea, es posible? Mola mucho!

@mandarinesalon1937 2 жыл бұрын

Norbert, will you come back some day with the "guess the languages" challenge with the 3 cups?

@miticogabry68 2 жыл бұрын

Che forte il tuo toscano: usi "sorti' " (uscire), come in francese usano "sortir", e usi "un monte" (molto, tanto), come in spagnolo dicono "un montòn"! ^_^

@gigieinaudi24 2 жыл бұрын

è anche italiano standard quindi non rileva. esempio: volendo potrei scriver un monte di fesserie a non lo fo

@miticogabry68 2 жыл бұрын

@@gigieinaudi24 grazie per la risposta. ^_^ In realtà, in Italiano Standard, ho sempre sentito l'espressione "una montagna di... (fesserie)..." :-)

@gigieinaudi24 2 жыл бұрын

@@miticogabry68 non è che bisogna parlar stereotipato per forza eh

@Samah_Morph_exe 2 жыл бұрын

Credo che per il fatto di "Sorti" venga proprio dal francese, qui da me a Lucca si usa tanto sia "Sorti" per "Sorti di torno" ed anche proprio la parola intera "Sortir" per dire: "Devi sortire/sorti da lì" Anche perché per esempio, Lucca è stata dominata per un periodo di tempo dai francesi, difatti abbiamo una porta nelle mura che sia chiama "Porta Elisa" come la sorella di Napoleone Elisa Bonaparte (la Porta la fece costruire Elisa), perché Lucca fu' governata dalla sorella di Napoleone. Infatti Elisa fece pure costruire anche una piazza qui a Lucca in onore di suo fratello, che tutt'ora si chiama "Piazza Napoleone". Un altro fatto carino, che ai tempi della mia zia (che ha 84 anni) dicevano la parola "Ceregia" per indicare il frutto "Ciliegia". Infatti 'Ceregia' deriva dalla parola francese "Cerise". Ora però questa parola è in disuso.

@gigieinaudi24 2 жыл бұрын

@@Samah_Morph_exe in Corsica si parla infatti il toscano antico occidentale tipicamente lucchese pisano garfagnino etc e non quello orientale che poi è diventato l’italiano cioè il fiorentino senese. Tu se’ da lega’ strinta come dite voialtri:))) Ciao

@kamatis78 2 жыл бұрын

i would love to see a narrow ipa transcription of the tuscan speech.

@VitorEmanuelOliver 2 жыл бұрын

Em Português do Brasil: Torneira, Valete, Formiga, Reclamão/Rabugento/Amargurado, Travesseiro A bit difficult to understand, but not the hardest Italian dialect

@JorgelinaVega 2 жыл бұрын

En castellano - en Argentina - le decimos "canilla" al grifo. Y creo que a esa carta le decimos "la jota" o sea la jota, de bastos, la jota de espada, la jota de copas, etc.

@puhelimentili805 2 жыл бұрын

En Perú se dice "caño"

@granaferoz 2 жыл бұрын

2The first word, in spanish "artentinian" , it said "canilla" very similar "canella"

@j.s.c.4355 2 жыл бұрын

This was hard. I am always surprised to learn how many different languages there are in Italy.

@cannotfigureoutaname Жыл бұрын

Yeah, the most interesting part is that there are variants of these languages as well basing on the area, where I live some words, grammar and pronunciations can change entirely from town to town.

@alessandrom7181 Жыл бұрын

Tuscan is italian with just an accent or very old italian words that are not used so often It Isn't a language like sicilian were you can find words that are not in the vocabulary though so I doubt it was that hard for you more than italian.

@alessandrom7181 Жыл бұрын

@@cannotfigureoutaname in Tuscany Is just the accent that changes, grammar and words not at all. Just the Arezzo part has a bit more different words and intonations similar to umbrian.

@cannotfigureoutaname Жыл бұрын

@@alessandrom7181 In Sicily we do have these variations, often it's just a different accent for each town but we usually notice a difference in some words and how we use them to explain a concept, sometimes even a slight grammar difference when we speak to people from somewhere else. I'm sure it's almost the same pretty much anywhere else, but here it's definitely more noticeable.

@masterjunky863 9 ай бұрын

There many languages but this us just regional Italian

@acidrefluxcharlie3834 2 жыл бұрын

I love this! I got 2-5. Number 1 I had no idea what it was. I speak Spanish

@ilariomichelini4616 2 жыл бұрын

Brava! Se accetti un suggerimento, la prossima volta abbi un minimo di pietà e cerca di parlare meno speditamente (potresti anche fare qualche gesto molto generico, come indicare due dita quando dici dù). Comunque ottimo, questi esperimenti sono magnifici, e ne approfitto per complimentarmi con Ecolinguist (Norbert, great job! Keep up the good work!).

@toscasam1353 2 жыл бұрын

Ero molto emozionata ❤️🙈 grazie per aver guardato e commentato! Accetto volentieri il suggerimento

@masterjunky863 2 жыл бұрын

Sono d'accordo sul parlare ma non sui gesti, devono provare a capire solo dalle parole

@4himsanctified 2 жыл бұрын

Grifo was my guess too!!!

@justames5979 2 жыл бұрын

Knowing French, I'd say this was similar to Corsican in terms of comprehension, very very close to Standard Italian, but some quirks in the phonology (like the aspirated s) threw me off a bit at the start. But by the end it was pretty easy to understand after adjusting to it

@jpvuelma 2 жыл бұрын

Yes, it's similar to Corsican, but also very similar to Romanesco

@lorenzopassero8509 2 жыл бұрын

In fact Corsican is classified as a Tuscan Italo-Dalmatian language, just like Standard Italian and Tuscan vernacular(s). It developed on its own, like the Tuscan vernaculars (Florentine vernacular above all is the evolution from 13th century Florentine of a spoken language) and Italian. It is much more conservative than nowadays Florentine vernacular since it only was the lingua franca of Italy, not the native one: not even the restricted intellectual elites spoke it as a native language, once they wandered through Naples, Palermo, Milan, Venice, Nice or Genoa they'd all reverse to the local language and speak it. It was only from WW1 that people from all over the peninsula came together to the fronts and had to use a lingua franca, and more so after WW2 when Italian entered every household with mass medias and had to be resorted to in the industrial centers of the North

@robertopinzani6774 2 жыл бұрын

@@jpvuelma no hijo toscano no es parecido al romanesco , la de la tia es una mescla entre fiorentino contaminado de senese y pisano, crio che la tia es de montespertoli/certaldo/San. Gimignano cudera pa dicer hormiga es senese ,ghizzo es florentino del sur , toscano puede ser algo parecido col corso, como corsica fue por un tres quatros siglos bajo dominacion pisana.

@jpvuelma 2 жыл бұрын

@@robertopinzani6774 Mi piace lo spagnolo, ma io sono italobrasiliano, qui in Brasile si parla portoghese e alcuni di noi italobrasiliani parliamo Italiano (tra quelli che parliamo la lingua dei nostri antenati siamo pochi a parlare l'Italiano standard; la maggioranza parla dialetto Talian, una koiné di base veneta) 😉

@fbvtt2456 2 жыл бұрын

We want piedmontese language

@hicetnuncmonamour 2 жыл бұрын

Nous aussi ~🇨🇵

@Allan_son 2 жыл бұрын

Amusing. In French a pillow is a place to rest your ear. In Tuscan it is a place to rest your cheek.

@MrRubikraft Жыл бұрын

Hello, I'm French, and the second word to guess was not "jocker" but "valet" (pronounced [vale]). The word "jocker" is also used in French with the same meaning as in English: to describe another card (or it can be a role attributed to a card, depending on the game played).

@MrRubikraft Жыл бұрын

Also, there are French words for the fourth one: "râleur" or "grognon".