It certainly did not help matters

Yes....Naturally aspirated is the way to go

Not so much the saving of fuel ....but instead all the New Gov. requirements on emissions...( which is good)!

My Lexus hybrid is300H more reliable then pure petrol version, but he got aspirate 2.5 L petrol engine and ECVT.

@@YoPhocFays Even the NA GDI engines are a problem waiting to happen. An engine needs to be at least partially port-injected for cleaning additives in top-tier fuel to hit everything they need to in order to keep carbon sludge from happening in various parts of the engine.

2 years 😂 lol

Those engines are bulletproof

Any ideas what the fix was for the main bearing failure? Was it fixed?

I don't think they have a choice anymore

@jamesbaine580 yes, unfortunately, with high gas prices, they are pitted in the middle of producing a gas efficient car by sacrificing reliability

@@jamesbaine580they always have a choice

@@YoPhocFaysdon't forget eco restrictions. EU suffers from that from many years.

Amen!

Although LOGICAL and thanks, ....In truth, we are a get it now QUICK society....*MANY/ Most.... will simply NOT wait to cool down and but rather jus' shut down ICE when arriving at destination......So although you are 100% correct...... VERY very few people will ever sit and wait because of a FreaK'n Turbo!

the turbos really only need time to spool down and cool if you've been running it hard and fast. under "normal" driving conditions it may not be so crucial but still a good idea. most people don't have the patience nor time to sit there for two min.😂

They have different technology now. It's not like earlier turbos that would still spin with no oil when you shut it off.

Interesting take. Don't these cars automatically Idle for a few minutes before they shot off? I remember seeing that on Japanese diesel pickup trucks from 30 years ago. Id imagine they'd have figured that out by now and if it needed to idle it probably would

I used to have a 1990 Nissan Skyline 2.5 Turbo. In those days we had 'turbo timers' which would let the car idle for a few minutes after you parked it to let the turbo cool down.

haha, thanks. I know most of them seem to do that. Cheers

Honda has a similar oil dilution technology built into their engines🤣

@@ECPP My 2012 A7 with only 62k miles doesn't.Perhaps it's more a problem with Audi's 4 cylinders?

This will be the result as people around the world 'reject EV monsters' and hesitantly except that 'extra electrical' Hybrid engine. Simple was always best/ these contraptions will never last the time/ or the wallet factor. Buy old tech. before it is all gone. My old Dodge Caravan 3.2 engine just passed 300,000 km this week and still doesn't burn more than a pint every three months. Runs like a charm/ idles perfectly/heavy on in-town gasoline though. Highway fine. Original water pump. Cheap parts if required. My backup is a Toyota Corolla Cross which seldom gets driven. When one sees high-time engine oil on the shelf and 125,000 km. on the front of the jug, you know when are screwed. High time was always 250,000 & up in the good old days and good v8/v6 engines.

Yep, that's true.

means more money for the govt. more profit. 😋

So that’s why there’s 2 new V6’s in the Ford Ranger and the frontier still has a NA V6, F150 still has a V8 and so does the Titan. You’re falling for Toyota marketing if you believe emissions is the issue

Haha awesome, yes and unfortunately for them, that is all too often the case

Turbo chargers in diesels last many hundreds of thousands of miles under much higher PSI loads. I'm not worried about the turbo itself in a gas engine, I'm worried about the engine internals holding up to the stress of the higher power / heavy loads. The 2 turbos in my BMW diesel are pushing around 50PSI (pushed to the absolute max with tuning) and they are healthy at 160k miles.

This refers to engines that have turbos and run on gas

​@BrianNC81 gasoline turbo engines applicable, to be clear.

I have the 2023 ES300h with the naturally aspirated 2.5-liter engine and the hybrid drivetrain. Love it and would not trade it for any turbo or dual turbo engine, period!!!

Yes yes

With $3.75 per hour Mexican labor.

NA wins the game for Toyota and Lexus

​@@ECPPWow no car brand is inmune to not having problems nor do they have a perfect track record for reliability sadly.

Even the 4.6L and 5.7L Toyota V8s had recalls.

@@Barbwire710 THEY ARE Not a LEXUS that is further refined....JD POWER has LEXUS the MOST Reliable brand since 2022.and still running!....................... LEXUS does not make a Truck!

@@donaldbanner2185 the same 4.6L and 5.7L design that Toyota uses in their Tundra trucks were used in the Lexus GX460 and LX570. The only difference being, the Lexus versions were built in Japan. The Japanese built GX460 did have a recall in 2010, look it up. No motor, or assembly of said motor is 100% perfect.

That does a number on an engine indeed

And the 8AR-FTS which has been a good engine.

Yes the TFL boys are paid supporters of this crap cars.

twin turbo 4 bangers? No problemo. BOOM!

Trust the science 😂

And honestly society is more of a throw away society so swapping vehicles every 3 or 5 years is common

And garages will be full of broken nicely appointed vehicles. Get your wallets out folks. Even Toyota is going for the green paper inside your pocket.

I think it's called, "engineered obsolescence", Toyota must have learned from Ford and GM. LOL

They are pricey as new for sure

@@ECPP I have a 2004 Suzuki XL-7 I purchased almost 17 years ago. 😂 it still runs just fine; it needs a new starter. I can’t be mad after 17 years. A 2017 LX will be an update & upgrade for sure. Funny how people complained about the lack of technology in the LX but coming from a 2004 it depends on perspective.

Yes

They knew about this as far back as 2022.

Remember, hybrids become more expensive to maintain beyond 200k, watch Scotty Kilmer's videos!

@@williamrossetter9430 Maybe some.....However Toyota / Prius has been at this for decades.....Indeed I reside in San Francisco & when I did my research for a bukllet proof vehicle I went to Cab Drivers for info as they floor cars Up & Down hills ALL Day!....they were almost all using Toyota Prius... w many over 400 K miles and VERY few Battery nor component issues...... Hmmm Light Bulb! Now there is a Platform worth investigating...Put it in a LEXUS w/ much sound dampening and quality...You R Gold!

​@@williamrossetter9430yup, the problem isn't that it "wears out eventually," it's that the cost to fix would be better put towards a new car thus increasing waste, causing much more harm environmentally to the planet than the minor amount of emissions they claim to be saving. The government doesn't seem to know what the hell they're doing when it comes to anything these days.

@@williamrossetter9430 Hmmmmmm? Not ALL Hybrids R created equal!...When I did my research for the Most Reliable platform & since I reside in San Francisco.....I went to Cab Drivers Offices and asked what are they using since they go Up & Down hills All day and are always flooring thier cars....They USE Toyota Prius = Economical RELIABLE...most All Prius were used in 400 K+ miles and VERY few Batt replacements......Hmmmm ? (light bulb!) so get that platform tried and true for Decades....Put it in a LEXUS w sound dampening and "Adaptive Suspension" & like I did , buy the LEXUS 450h+ "F" Sport.

That's subjective. I see more 300k+ GX, LX, 4Runner, Sequoia, and Land Cruisers than I do Lexus 400h/450h models. I also see a ton of them in the Middle East/Africa where the paved roads end. Plus you don't have to deal with the complex maintenance of the hybrid system. I used to own and drive a 2013 Lexus 450h, which is no longer competitive with the latest 2020+ variant. It was a great commuter but limited utility. I still own a GX and a LX. I (subjective view) believe the very best model Toyota/Lexus offer in North America was the Land Cruiser 200/LX570. Yes it was thirsty but it just does everything well (not just limited to on road highway/daily commute/track but also haul people, cargo, and tow) and in comfort (on and off road). For a 6000# + vehicle, it gets a respective 16-17mpg on the highway even modded with 33"+ tires. I can't say the same for the Lexus 450h+. To me the RX has a lot of in city, daily commute, handling, and massive fuel economy advantages, but missing a lot of the utility/hauling/towing/payload, off-road/adventure pieces. Plus the interior of the LX has way better material than the RX, even down to the speakers, the reference sound system, and the split tailgate. Navigation on all these suck but can be easily retrofitted with aftermarket Carplay/Android Auto units for less than $1k.

yes

Haha

Yes I agree, run away from engines like turbo 3s. Simply not designed to run long distances and stress levels are significant.

You are very welcome. Thanks a lot for watching. Have a great one.

Yeah, you can still get a traditional v6 on the ES and take the wait and see how things get worked out over time with the new engines. I also like that the ES still uses buttons in addition to touchscreen very well implemented. The ES is currently my favorite Lexus and you can get them below MSRP. I wish the RX was my favorite but without the v6 I will pass on the new RX.

Exactly. Great choice and also why my are glad we bought one of the last simple Camrys with the NA 2.5 as well. Now these newer engines have a lot to prove to hold pace with the older cars

Well said

haha pay as much tax as we do, and you will understand

Indeed go with what you know

I have a 2022 LS and I've had no problems with 43k miles. You can trust Lexus. The majority of those engines are trouble-free. He's referring to a youtuber who made a video outlining how a mechanic saw a few cars with an issue. Ask a mechanic yourself if that engine is problematic. Majority of them will say no.

Sorry but their 3.4L twin-turbo V6 has been a disaster ever since it launched in the LS500. Failures left and right and in many cases with less than 20,000 miles. The BMW B58 is more reflective of what you'd expect of a Toyota turbo. Also, Hyundai may make atrocious 4-cylinder engines, but the 3.3/3.5T V6 in their Genesis models is top notch when it comes to reliability for a turbo engine. Toyota should stick to what they excel at, making fantastic NA V6 & V8 engines.

@@philhenderson3516 well I can't argue as I have only owned na Toyota engines. What I will say though is everyone said the same thing about CVTs and I have never had an issue with Toyota eCVTs. I also heard the same thing about Toyota hybrid systems not lasting long and having huge repair bills and I've had great success with those too so I'll take my chances with Toyota. Also I do Uber so my use case for these is pretty extreme.

I've heard of atleast 3 lexus LS sedans made in Japan with same engine and same problems.

The old cars are so sturdy

Glad yours is great and most are, but there have been many documented faikires

@@ECPP not with Lexus models. The Lexus models are made in Japan with different suppliers than the Tundra. There always are issues but historically Lexus has the least amount of issues. This anti boosted car hyperbole is ridiculous. I guess the Supra should be a N/A V-8 lol

@@MikeForsythe Yep! 100% made in Glorous JAPAN....i.e.Sony.etc. Not Union shops i.e. Canada...there are many reviews of the differences in workmanship where in a Union shop U never get Fired! for OPP's I forgot a spot weld...In Japan it is the Samuri Sword...Jus' kidding! however the mindset is far diff. in JAPAN as they live for the companies....

Bmw will over take them this year. Mark my word

Fine.....for how long? A few years down the road?

Yes it’s NA and hybrid. All good at this time

GX460 or 2023 ES300h or ES350.

Exactly. Every other luxury car brands pretty much only offer turbocharged engines.. I’d rather buy a Lexus one.

Dropped the NA Glorious V6 in 2023 I believe...replaced w/ 4 cyl Turbo...(although they still have the Non Turbo 4 cyls......2 issues IMO...they tend to make Noise / growl when pushed and possible& Typical, Euro car non reliability from heat / spool-up.

Yes they add a lot of stress to internals and extra heat takes a toll on external parts too

Flooring it in any car uses more gas 🤣

No it does not appera that way. Pre - filing issues.

true and also styling from the Land Rover Defender IMHO

That’s pure slilliness

Its not so much about the Hybrid as it isa out that specific engine

Yes indeed the 2.0 is an oil eater for sure and the 6 and 8 cylinder engines are better. The 5 cyl units in the RS3 or TTRS are also much better

yikes

You are so right. Toyota does look a little deeper and tries to build reliability into their drivetrains but time will tell on these newer 2.4 and 3.4 L engines

Good thing Lexus 2.4t has dual injection.

I mean the 300 series.... Sorry

I believe you are right. The tide has shifted. The last of the reliable engines are the NA 2.5, 3.5, 4.6, 5.7

@@ECPP and the 4.7

exactly

lol, cheers. Thanks for watching

Time will tell how that goes

Its all there, thanks

@@ECPP what time stamp? I saw nothing other than here say and opinions.

Haha cheers

Cute and I love the interior finishing. Nice functional utilitarian SUV. There have been a few reported engine failures with low miles so I would dig deeper into commonalities. Otherwise a nice unit.

They will run far longer than a person even cares to own it, lol

True. They do currently run some hybrids but mated to a reliable NA engine would have been best

They will tell us that we can trust them…..NOT.

Haha

Oldie but a goodie

Indeed

That’s true

You totally nailed it. People in general are dim. I know people still buying Hyundais and Kia’s even with all the brutal press on blown engines. Toyota and Lexus seems to be in fact taking a page from BMWs book and likely heading down that path. It’s now not as obvious which brands stand out for reliability and rather which ones are less of a problem.

@@ECPP I wonder about the dimness of people. To me, its a neon sign as an automotive engineer. Maybe its general affluence, but not the whole equation because so many are in debt. I am old and remember people understanding basic things. Keep speaking truth to educate the masses who for some reason lack common sense. Love your channel. God speed. PS. speaking of insidious, the 'excuse' of needing to go small displacement turbo and hybrid to meet CAFE and emissions is also a large misconception. Car makers are complicit in what emissions and CAFE they sign up to. Reason is, government legislatures are completely clueless about 'what level of emissions and CAFE' is achieveable with a given powerplant technology. In summary, automakers are complicit and sign up to more stringent regulations because 'they can derive more profit' on more complex vehicles to meet these standards that happen to fail sooner which also suits their business model of profit. This is never discussed in public discourse but the reality I know to be true as an industry insider.

@@ECPP Sadly Many people RENT / LEASE (same thing) * on EMOTIONS, never own anything get ***ripped off by buying extended Warr. for three years to support Euro Service Departments (Where the REALLY make their money!..... Only to dump the huge losses to go on with their 2 to 3K Loss of $ per month! ( and you still gotta Feed and Clothe the Monsters)

No turbo/ no hybrid/ for me. NEVER.

@@luckyguy600 No Hybrid???? You might do some REAL research on that comment! You just gave up using elec to go 50 miles Run Regular gas and get 89 miles per gal in Hybrid and the RELIABILITY of LEXUS! ... Oh Well!

You shall be waiting a long time for one of those "bulletproof" vehicles; especially if the mileage is low or reasonable.