Machine Shaft From 2000 Lb Stock

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3 жыл бұрын

This video show in detail how I setup for turning this shaft from a solid 2000 Lb. bar of 4140 steel. To end up with the minimum of runout and stress.
******PLEASE READ BELOW BEFORE ASKING A QUESTION ABOUT THE STOCK SIZE*****
There have been many, many comments/questions on why this part is being roughed from such a large 16" diameter bar. It is because there is a flange of that diameter on the parts end. This customer wanted the part machined out of one piece of material. The original part these shafts were replacing were a welded two piece construction. They had a failure with that so to avoid that possibility in the future the opted for the one piece construction. Also there wasn't time to get open die forgings done to answer that question.

Пікірлер: 1 700

@kennyp9339 2 жыл бұрын

Retired machinist of 42 years in the family "job shop". Toughest part that I ever machined was .507 dia .303 long copper with 14 holes tapped 2-56 X .098 bottom. I set up a tool holder with bees wax that our resident old timer had me try. Went from zero tapped holes to completing the entire job with zero broken taps. 2600 piece order. Always listen to the old timers, he retired at 89 years old and still came in a few days a week just to answer questions right up until the day he died at 94. I really miss him.

@vitalijslebedevs1629 2 жыл бұрын

Mad lads over 70yo are the best, even if they've learned everything in analog and manual. Passion to keep working after pension age coupled with all that experience is simply unbeatable. Also, copper or Al is not a metal, as hardcore port-equipement millers say. In 3 years of milling haven't had them once (allthough everything with iron in it, plexiglass, nylotron, capron or PVC came up occasionally). I'd rather do Hardox500, than something soft, gummy and unpredictable, due to lack of experience, the main thing.

@elischultes6587 2 жыл бұрын

Grandad became a machinist after Korea and retired in maybe 94-95. At times I wonder where his apprentices ended up. At the end he was happy just turning out screws all day. I’m not sure I could do the same part for years. He had some interesting projects over time. He helped estimate for a subcontract for M16 receivers. The prints were labeled top secret. He knew they wouldn’t be able to make money getting the contract. He knew that they probably hadn’t had a background check through enough to officially get the contract either. Grandmom was a pacifist and converted grandad after his service. As a pacifist he avoided military contracts unless they were life saving. The quick disconnect for the F16 or 18 oxygen supply to the ejection seat was ok. Polishing recreational rifle scope glass was ok too.

@dale436 2 жыл бұрын

Great story

@peterfitzpatrick7032 Жыл бұрын

Kenny... That man is a true loss to society... ordinary people have NO idea the empirical & technical know-how these craftsmen take to the grave with them... even if they have mentored others... The "force" truly is weakened by their loss... RIP... 😔 From the Emerald Isle 😎👍☘🍺

@darthvader5300 Жыл бұрын

I suggest you write a book about everything you know and have it printed, and as to that old timer, I wish I was there so that with a tape recorder and with 2 stenographers they can record and write down everything he knows with my engineering staff asking him about his knowledge and and asking him questions about his work history, the problems he dealt with and how he solve them, etc. And add that to your book. Computers are good but A PRINTED BOOK MADE FROM ARCHIVAL INK ON ARCHIVAL PAPER WILL LAST FOR MANY GENERATIONS and to pass it top future generations.

@thebaddestogre-3698 3 жыл бұрын

Nice work! Reminds me of an old cartoon where an entire tree was lathed down into a single toothpick.😁

@stan6425 2 жыл бұрын

Crazytown

@thebaddestogre-3698 2 жыл бұрын

@@stan6425 that's it! Thanks👍

@y788lhjk1 2 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣🤣

@miguelmaldonado9881 2 жыл бұрын

Ahhh, The Toothpick Factory.

@lloyd8677 2 жыл бұрын

I was thinking of the same cartoon.

@genericdynamics6618 3 жыл бұрын

His considerations on stress-induced runout made me realise there are so many things i don't know. Sometimes you watch these gents, think it is easy because they make it look easy and suddenly you understand that there is so much experience you need in order to get the job done it is almost frightening. Still glad i subscribed.

@joachimsingh2929 3 жыл бұрын

The stress is usually relaxed in the annealing after tempering. If there is still warping after that you have to either do it again or take a deeper dive and ser if there could be some inconsitency in the material itself like uneven proportions of The alloying metals causing faulty grainstructure or difference in grain in different areas. Its usually scrap by then. If its mechanichal stress then you either straighten your part or just machine it out .

@xenonram 3 жыл бұрын

@@joachimsingh2929 there's ALWAYS stresses in stock, especially when you remove 90% of it. There is nothing you can do to get around that. There Monday be a little, may be a lot, and you can do pre processes to minimize it, but you can't eliminate it. The center is holding it and preventing it from springing, which makes it more noticable.

@genericdynamics6618 3 жыл бұрын

@@xenonram thanks

@chrisyboy666 3 жыл бұрын

Try vertical turning thin wall inconel....that separates the men from the boys....spent many a shift with my head in my hands...crying over the scrap bin....Ps I would of got maintenance to sort that conveyor out before even attempting to remove that much stock...

@glass1258 3 жыл бұрын

@@chrisyboy666 he is maintenance. He owns the machine lol

@rodzab 3 жыл бұрын

You taught me more in one hour than what the shop I started at has taught me in 3 weeks, thank you!

@NerdlyCNC 3 жыл бұрын

this makes my day..an hour long edge precision video :)

@DRrandomman22 3 жыл бұрын

Chip conveyors only work when you don't need them

@EdgePrecision 3 жыл бұрын

Exactly!

@MrKotBonifacy 3 жыл бұрын

But I loved the montage - him, trudging with them chips, while superimposed "virtual machine" was making them all the time. Perfect! : )

@DoctorBeer2044 3 жыл бұрын

That's how they are suppose to work, right? 🤣

@MrKotBonifacy 3 жыл бұрын

@@DoctorBeer2044 You mean, them "empty-chip-pan-wallahs", eh? ;-) Yes, as my mom used to say - "work hard, learn your math and other subjects, and who knows? - maybe one day you'll be elligible to your owm shovel..." ;-)

@milotorres6894 3 жыл бұрын

That is mucho cutting of billet stock ,nice 👍✌️💪🤔

@owievisie 3 жыл бұрын

Being a filmmaker before this trade I can really appriciate the time you put into getting the extra B shots and graphics

@ianeyolfson6525 3 жыл бұрын

Not a machinist just like these videos but you have changed my attitude towards machining by making it straight forward and something I could do. I’ve watched many guys over the last few years but your video is the first one where I could picture myself there because I can understand your description of the work being done. I’m a heavy diesel field mechanic and have subscribed.

@darthvader5300 Жыл бұрын

As a mechanical engineer I will say that, WE OWE EVERYTHING TO THESE MACHINISTS for they can turn any metal ingot into a very useful component for all of the machines that we are taking for granted. Even the UV Lithographic Steppers used in making computer IC chips is composed of THOUSANDS OF MECHANICAL COMPONENTS especially the micro-mechanical components that aligns the protective etching masks, they make the machines used in making the optical components of the lasers and UV beam projectors. The list of mechanical parts is ENDLESS. Your faucets and valves n your households, the car manufacturing facilities, the mechanical components of hospital equipments, the surgical tools and devices. I am you telling the list is super endless! And only machine tools can be used to manufacture themselves starting with the lathe to make the planer, and then the planer is used to make a more precise lathe which in turn makes a more precise planer and so forth and so on. Then they can scale up in size and then diversify into other basic machine tools such as the drill press, the miller, and the shaper. And includes their ancilliary extensions and measuring instruments and devices.

@Horus9339 3 жыл бұрын

It's good to see that even with high-end machining you still need that human touch to fine tune the results. Thank you for sharing your day.

@hollodollo4771 3 жыл бұрын

need is a strong word. No doubt a machine could do all he did but it couldn't do it very efficiently yet and would have a long and hard teething process

@fabienthuillez9084 2 жыл бұрын

Horus I work in those machinery things and what a can assure you is when the latest machines are programmed you don’t need humain anymore except for changing used tools robots can do everything and that scary because lot of us including me will be replace by robots in near future

@angrydragonslayer 2 жыл бұрын

@@fabienthuillez9084 i have helped in makings robots that can replace tools flagged as out of tolerance by a laser tool measurement system, they work perfectly fine.

@Hawk7886 6 ай бұрын

@@angrydragonslayerwere they out of tolerance?

@angrydragonslayer 6 ай бұрын

@@Hawk7886 yep Consistently

@PowderMill 3 жыл бұрын

I am an electronics engineer and an volunteer firefighter and own a few Hilti cordless tools because that is what we carry on our heavy rescue truck. I actually used my drill once, though I can’t remember why. So... I have zero clue how I ended up here. But.... I stayed and watched the entire video. AMAZING!!! Thank you sir. 👍🏻

@jdhinckley1954 10 ай бұрын

This is a terrific instructional. You take the time to provide not only a clear description of what you're doing, but to also call attention to the possible pitfalls to look out for. Thank you for taking the time to make these videos!

@dozer1642 3 жыл бұрын

I had no idea that thing would move that much when the center was removed. That blew my mind.

@tallswede80 3 жыл бұрын

lotta pressure

@snappers_antique_firearms 3 жыл бұрын

You know you're looking at a professional when he makes more chips in one day than you've made in your entire life

@mrsock3380 3 жыл бұрын

My boss from my apprenticeship days would have gone ballistic if he saw someone hitting something with the dti in contact with the thing you're hitting.

@glass1258 3 жыл бұрын

@@mrsock3380 shockwaves . But it’s whatever really. I’ve never actually seen one break from doing that

@chrisprobert6 3 жыл бұрын

@@mrsock3380 if you dismantle the indicator you will realise that the chances of damage from a bit of vibration from a hammer blow is a million to one. No more forces involved than the DTI travelling down the stock while your turning it. Boss's just like to stick it to apprentices, his motive would probably be to try to raise awareness

@hadenmills2222 3 жыл бұрын

@@mrsock3380 when you work in a production shop it's about getting jobs out the door not saving a $200 indicator. If you have to replace an indicator every year or 2 it's worth the time saved when you are cranking out parts.

@mrsock3380 3 жыл бұрын

@@chrisprobert6 yeah, everybody know precision instruments and gears love shock loading, I don't know why I don't know that.

@davidmurray700 3 жыл бұрын

'Thanks for watching'??? Oh no, no, no, thank YOU for sharing!!! Always enjoy when you share, period.

@harindugamlath 3 жыл бұрын

It's more like social service. thanks peter.

@milotorres6894 3 жыл бұрын

Definitely a pleasure to see precision work in progress and a man who knows his machine .,👍💪✌️😔

@dannywilsher4165 3 жыл бұрын

What an enjoyable way to spend an hour... Thanks Pete!!!!!

@ronhuffman7973 2 жыл бұрын

Precision required and precision delivered. No substitute for your experience, skill, and extreme level of detail. Thanks for sharing!

@massimilianocipriani7838 3 жыл бұрын

I hope the customer sees your video, so that he can appreciate your dedication and passion. Great work as always!

@EdgePrecision 3 жыл бұрын

This customer does watch my videos. In fact it is because he watched my videos in the past that I got this job.

@littlejackalo5326 2 жыл бұрын

Sometimes we don't want the client seeing the videos. He's had to take several videos down because the customer made nonsense complaints that he was showing their ip.

@skirifles2076 3 жыл бұрын

Nothing but true professionalism right there.

@natesmith9007 3 жыл бұрын

@Dame Dollaz absolute pog

@davidcollins4200 Жыл бұрын

I am thoughly impressed with the detail you took with the setup alone, I have about 35 plus years of inspection work in metal turning. I have worked with some of the fresh out of school kids that just want to do everything as fast as they can, it was a pleasure to watch a true craftsman.

@meekguitars 3 жыл бұрын

2000 pounds!!!! Moving it effortlessly in that shop is the most impressive part of this video

@concinnity1240 3 жыл бұрын

This was in my recommended and I watched every minute of it. Absolutely fascinating. Well done.

@adammiller4879 3 жыл бұрын

I love seeing other machinists thought processes, my old boss who taught me everything about machining who’s been a machinist for over 40 years taught me about stresses induced runout when I was machining a similar part to yours, it was only about 5 thou, and didn’t matter for our parts. But it just goes to show much there is to learn in this trade

@darthvader5300 2 жыл бұрын

When I was assigned in Japan under a diplomatic mission cover way back in the 1980s, I saw several basic Japanese machine tools for the Japanese has never and will never forget from learning FIRST all the basic machine tools but this time they upgraded it in using omni-directional laser scanners that can practically scan any item and turn out exact copies of the same components. But they have maintained the same 1950s and late 1940s machine tool alloys used in making machine tools because they LAST AD INFINITUM! I ask them why use the old alloys and they said it is based on their experiences from WW II which they have carefully recorded and microfilmed archived. It is because of the lack of raw materials that they could not make REPLACEMENT PARTS for their machine tools for the war effort, especially the cutting tool bits and tool bit holders. This time they have to make sure that even in peace time, any interruptions from raw materials supplies will not disrupt their machine tool operations and this time for DEFENSIVE AND COUNTEROFFENSIVE PURPOSES to protect Japan. That was way back in the early 1980s and I have no doubt they are still maintaining that policy of BUILDING TO LAST INDEFINITELY.

@johndonlan5956 2 жыл бұрын

I think that's why Japanese automobiles are built so well..... They're made to last as long as they can. American manufacturers of automobiles are still using "planned obsolescence" thinking, with the idea that they can sell more cars and car parts if they wear out within a predetermined amount of time. The Japanese don't think that way.

@darthvader5300 2 жыл бұрын

@@johndonlan5956 Ever heard of the Kommuna Russian ship which was built just before the 1917 Russian revolution under the Tsar? It is made out of a steel that won't rust at all even after 122 years has passed and it still being used by the Russians to this day! A Russian engineer told me they already took samples from non-critical locations from the ship and has spent tons of money in scientific R&D trying to figure out on how it was made, and they already knew how to duplicate the process and the steel material. They already built a factory, 8 in fact, to manufacture that kind of steel for the Russian military and it is not available yet for civilian use. But imagine the shockwaves and howl from American iron and steel makers when we Russians will make it available for civilian use world wide! They will lobby congress to stop it's importation but American buyers who are already fed up with planned obsolescence will demand it to be sold to them for all they have to do is look at the appliances made in the late 1940s, throughout the 1950s up to the early 1960s of te grandparents and great-grandparents that are still in pristine conditions and still running strong! Today's ship builders will demand it to be made available to them for their buyers will demand that their ships that they ae buying must be built to last!

@johndonlan5956 2 жыл бұрын

@@darthvader5300 Yes, but planned obsolescence will never go out of style as long as you have greedy people. Look at the carburetor developed in the 1970s by those two brothers. It enabled a Plymouth Fury (one of the largest cars of that era) to travel 84 miles on one gallon of gas! We saw it on the news at 6:00 that day...... And then never again. Believe me, if the world ever finds out about this special steel...... The greedy people at the top will find a way to discredit it, or buy the patent (and bury it!).

@CalTN 2 жыл бұрын

@@johndonlan5956 Indications of a superior society and culture. America has been devoured by locusts of greed and our industry leaders are less than their former.

@dharaosgaming 2 ай бұрын

The amount I learn from your videos is insane

@johnmoorefilm 3 жыл бұрын

What a remarkably generous man. Give you faith in humanity.

@brianbob7514 3 жыл бұрын

That is an interesting fact about center drills

@Sicktrickintuner 3 жыл бұрын

Boom! Mind blown....

@jimsvideos7201 3 жыл бұрын

Straight into a grey cell with that one, surely.

@RyanJ362 3 жыл бұрын

.001 of runout over 34 inches!! Much respect

@NeverlostatBSgaming 3 жыл бұрын

That center drill fact was something I never knew but am *very* glad I know now as it is incredibly useful! Thank you for teaching me something valuable that my college education did not

@gordonno11 3 жыл бұрын

You're only as smart as your teacher when you go to school.... unfortunately many teachers aren't as smart as we think.....you can learn more from an experienced machinist......only if there willing to give away their secrets 😁

@peterpurpose 3 жыл бұрын

Non machinist here... Absolutely fascinating. Meticulous, mesmerising and astonishing.

@rockeerockey6941 3 жыл бұрын

"Cutting Edge Engineering Australia" is also interesting!

@dancrankshaw2753 3 жыл бұрын

And they use metric😑 fuck the imperial system.

@rockeerockey6941 3 жыл бұрын

And they drive on the wrong side of the street, the steering wheel should always be on the LEFT

@humancattoy7767 3 жыл бұрын

You got that shit right.

@DaleDix 3 жыл бұрын

Its bloody awesome

@rockeerockey6941 3 жыл бұрын

@@DaleDix TY Kurtis! 😆

@BruceBoschek 3 жыл бұрын

Your videos are gold! I learned more about stress, center drills and shoveling chips that I would have hoped for. Thanks for sharing your expertise!

@expidition07 3 жыл бұрын

What a great video. I just finished watching all of your other videos and really enjoyed how you explain how you go about setting up the different parts of the project, It is also great to watch the machine at work.it is like pottery in motion. Thank you for taking the time to explain the different parts of the projects and how you set them up. Looking forward to seeing more of them

@LuckyOwl_ 3 жыл бұрын

Could save yourself a lot of pain in op2 by using a small bung/faceplate against the end of the part with the tailstock applied, skim a steady band. Apply your steady. Re-face the part and do your end hole so it’s true to the band you’ve just essentially free-turned without any pressure on the centre hole. Now you can engage your centre and turn it all true to the hole you’ve just made. Saves faffing about with chapping true and nipping/un-nipping jaws true with a DTI when, in essence, you’re truing up to something you’re going to remove in the next hour.

@johnwilliamson467 3 жыл бұрын

Thing just got real when you have to shovel the chip into multipal 55 gallon drums.

@Peter-V_00 3 жыл бұрын

Incredible Peter, I like to think I'm pretty cool headed when performing tricky work but I admit I caught myself gritting my teeth a couple times while you were performing the work on this job, well worth watching to pick up subtleties of taking on such a job, thank you for posting.

@N269 3 жыл бұрын

An artist, a true artist! I was mesmerized for over an hour... one of the best hours in my life. Thank you... your highness.

@knowsenough2bdangerous 3 жыл бұрын

While I agree that it's an excellent video and mesmerizing, maybe if this was one of the best hours of your life you either have many, many best hours or should consider getting out more :)

@N269 3 жыл бұрын

@@knowsenough2bdangerous Yeah :) I've been told a million times not to exaggerate. :) But was a most entertaining hour.

@oscar.gonzalez 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for taking the time to make your videos while you're working!

@johnmccallum9542 3 жыл бұрын

@jerseyjoe2684 3 жыл бұрын

You would be a great mentor for any youngster starting out in the profession. Great vdeo!

@gibbogle9486 2 жыл бұрын

I'm amazed that a machinist like this is still working with inches.

@257796 Жыл бұрын

In America we use both. I think that's a common misconception that we're not on the metric system. We use both equally depends on the application

@cnc-setup 2 жыл бұрын

What a fantastic channel! To go to the trouble to show the setting up of the 4 jaw and the steady rest is above and beyond. I remember being shown how to set a 4 jaw while I was an apprentice. Looks so easy until you try to do it yourself. Big lump in the chuck, slacken the low side jaw, tighten the high side, then face not true, try to tap face true, part drops too far tighten jaws a bit, then can't move it at all, get face true but now OD out ... round and round in circles. Gets a lot easier with practice. I imagine the steady rest is even worse. You show everything that can go wrong and how to find out before it's too late. Brilliant training video. Worth every one of the 1.5 million views. Keep up the good work.

@owievisie 3 жыл бұрын

The stock is not perfectly round. Peter: Hold my indicator... What a way to start the weekend

@VATSYAYAN- 3 жыл бұрын

Very precise centering and turning methods. A superb and possibly unique kind of analysis. Thank you.

@willybones3890 3 жыл бұрын

You tube algorithm said...you need some precision metal machine work in your life...me..."ok". Very interesting.

@micmike Жыл бұрын

I just wanted to thank you for this video, I never had exposure to this machine or methods before but, I always wanted to start working in the field. So, really appreciate your explanations and reasonings, clear and understandable to follow your thoughts well. Thanks again.

@ryebis Жыл бұрын

Lots of valuable lessons even for the home machinist. Thanks for taking the time to explain and demonstrate.

@jimmartin7881 3 жыл бұрын

Just found your channel and I'll thank you for what I learned in just this video, I subbed immediately. Now it's you and Kurtis over at Cutting Edge Engineering as my vote for best large scale machining channels on YT.

@allenignacio9790 3 жыл бұрын

Check Abom channel they are similar excellent in their master piece

@AdvancedUSA 3 жыл бұрын

I always appreciate someone who is excellent at what they do. Compare that to the people we come into contact on a daily basis. My favorite quote from a computer tech support person is “That SHOULD work”. I always tell them is “WILL it work or NOT?”

@SpencerHHO 3 жыл бұрын

It's just honesty there are literally hundreds if not thousands of variables between software and hardware that can behave in unpredictable ways. Cosmic rays can even flip a bit in memory and cause a whole program to crash.

@BS-np8xt 2 жыл бұрын

Speak for yourself! I always keep my handy cosmic ray indicator around, just in case.

@FHove 2 жыл бұрын

Very educative, you did all my tricks to get rid of stress in material. I work on 2 axis Mazak machine, so its a pleasure to watch your videos on this wonderful Mazak machine.

@riverbuilder2251 2 жыл бұрын

Great work, you’re a fine journeyman. I really like how you keep a viewer involved by saying how “we” are going to do this or “we” are now going to do that, it’s excellent engagement.

@jasonlax4112 3 жыл бұрын

Don't know how I got here...but I loved it

@pcb1962 3 жыл бұрын

Just found your channel, subscribed. Have missed this kind of large scale machining since Abom gave up his day job.

@littlejackalo5326 2 жыл бұрын

They stopped allowing him to film long before he quit.

@josha9620 2 жыл бұрын

You learn something new every day!! I had no idea you could do that with a centre drill!! I will definitely put that to use.

@mattshuman4534 Жыл бұрын

Really enjoyed this video, I'm not a machinist but found this very interesting, thank you for showing all the details.

@aus71383 3 жыл бұрын

animated overlay timelapse montage was so cool! Great edit - and great content as always. Thank you

@johnmccallum9542 3 жыл бұрын

@CGT80 3 жыл бұрын

especially the part where he was taking a 1/4" cut at each pass and you could see why he was shoveling chips into 55 gallon drums, as he was shoveling and the machine was cutting. Somehow it just worked perfectly together and it really gave us a yardstick to really understand how much material was being remove.

@mopetnmax892 3 жыл бұрын

Just stumbled across your channel, great stuff. Greetings from Germany

@125spectrum 3 жыл бұрын

New to the channel and the content is great. Really appreciate your skill, commentary and explanations. I learned a lot. Thanks for all your efforts. Paul

@AllanHendrix 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the video Peter. I very much appreciate these longer videos.

@donovangibson7765 3 жыл бұрын

Its amazing how an engine block sized chunk of steel weighs as much as my entire old car.

@ultranitro437 3 жыл бұрын

What kind of car did you drive? 2000lbs is pretty light!

@donovangibson7765 3 жыл бұрын

@@ultranitro437 a 1994 Geo Metro that I converted to electric back in 2012. Although the lead acid batteries put it at 2500 lbs. Lol.

@ultranitro437 3 жыл бұрын

@@donovangibson7765 yeah that is about one of the lightest "common" cars on the road in america! My buddy had one with the 3 cylinder and it could barely get to 65mph with the 2 of us on the freeway!

@donovangibson7765 3 жыл бұрын

@@ultranitro437 trust me, they're terrifying to drive at 70 when they're overweight with batteries! Lmao I've got some old footage on my other channel XmodAlloy on youtube if you want to check it out.

@michaelrice500 3 жыл бұрын

Very nice. I noticed that some of the micrometers had "For Reference Only" labels on them. When I worked for the USAF, I used to see that on things that came back from PMEL (Precision Measurement Equipment Laboratory) that hadn't passed or had expired. They usually worked just fine, but you couldn't use them for inspections or periodic maintenance. We used to have a torque wrench that was used for an annual inspection, but it still had to go in for calibration every six months. Madness.

@soul8bounce Жыл бұрын

And took 4 months to come back. Gotta love PMEL.

@Rearmostbean Жыл бұрын

Backbone of civilization, thank you

@nanobot81 2 жыл бұрын

Experience at its finest. Great job fellow machinist

@lawrencelymanii6943 3 жыл бұрын

"That's not a lathe, now This, This is a lathe!"

@juanyamasaki9930 3 жыл бұрын

Oh Man what a work,if you can trepanning some material here where I live material is so expensive it becomes complicated removing so much.warping is something to consider.

@olevjorgensen 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you Peter for another interesting video, I learn from you every time I watch one of your videos, and this time we were really spoiled by over an hour of video.

@dangerdave616 3 жыл бұрын

Excellent work. Another good reason to dial in the feeds and speeds, so you don't have to fight a giant swarf monster to clean out the machine.

@tomoakhill8825 3 жыл бұрын

Watching this channel and watching the Abom79 channel illustrates vividly that the modern metal lathe was invented in 1751 by Jacques de Vaucanson as documented in the Encyclopédie. Thus these two channels demonstrate 270 years of accumulated technical knowledge, which has amazing depth.

@Spahi77 2 жыл бұрын

I also love CEE from Australia...he does some amazing work

@chrismadaj8751 Жыл бұрын

CEE ISA GREAT STUFF ALWAYS DO VERY LARGE STUFF

@knowsenough2bdangerous 3 жыл бұрын

Nice explanations throughout for those of us who are mechanically inclined and curious but have little or no 'hands on' machining experience (although having done software development in a group that did fancy, for the day, CAD/CAM over 40 years ago I have _some_ out-of-date exposure). One thing I find myself thinking when watching this and similar videos is how much time is spent on centering (although, obviously on this job with the amount of material being removed it's a quite small part of this total job). It seems that much of this could be done more quickly by "computer + sensors + hardware" under the guidance of the machinist (including specifying such things as max/min jaw pressures etc. as the machinist has a sense of the "grippiness" of various finishes/jaws as in this case). The spindle/chuck could have timing features (maybe at this class they already do) and a "digital" dial indicator being read by the computer. With that, the computer can do the trig to take an initial guess at which jaws to tighten or loosen and by how much and then actually extend a tool to do that to each jaw. Rinse and repeat until spec is met (or computer throws up its hands and cries out for a human machinist). Each iteration would take into account the change over the last try to temper the amount of torque to apply to each jaw adjustment. For extra credit, add a variable strength pneumatic "bumper/vibrator" to replace the hammer and couple that with three digital dial gauges around the circumference at the tail end - the computer could apply force in increasing/decreasing levels (up to constraints specified by the machinist) to the "bumper/vibrator" and turning the piece while monitoring the effect so relatively little "oops, went too far". I suppose version 12.9 of such a system would actually take into account the mass of the piece being centered (assuming a full CAD/CAM system, not just an assist to "old school" machining) to work more quickly and have a wide array of scenarios it could adjust to - but that's probably a bit beyond what would be needed for an MVP. Since this is so "obvious", I assume this already exists (although I've never seen it) or it's a ridiculous idea that has been tried many times and failed for economic or technical reasons :(

@manfredlafs8472 10 ай бұрын

Hey, as a machinist from germany its really nice to see stuff life this just the whole process of a part, i really enjoy watching your videos and see how you make this big parts ^^, keep going doing this its so satifying seeing removing so much material

@420Chameleon 3 жыл бұрын

Wow, that machine. I'm drooling watching this thing run.

@BiddieTube 3 жыл бұрын

2000 LBS start, 140 lbs end. Perfect job to hot forge. But, if you only make two, not worth it, unless you already have all the hot forging equipment. That part is just asking for it though! Great job, very well done.

@ramanshah7627 3 жыл бұрын

I thought the same thing!

@thomebau895 3 жыл бұрын

You could have made this as a two part design, that would be much more efficient.

@kindablue1959 3 жыл бұрын

@@thomebau895 He mentioned in another video that the client tried a multi-part design and it failed. That is why they chose to use a one piece design this time, despite the extra cost.

@matthewshyetessamcintosh3460 3 жыл бұрын

I could easily make a 2 piece that wouldn't fail

@kindablue1959 3 жыл бұрын

@@matthewshyetessamcintosh3460 Peter suggested he probably could too, but he made what the customer wanted, and no doubt got paid well for doing it.

@PeregrineBF 3 жыл бұрын

It's a shame the chip conveyor broke, hope you can get it fixed soon.

@CGT80 3 жыл бұрын

I'm a little glad it was broken and he did the great animation of that heavy cut all while he was shoveling the chips from all of that. It sucked for him but made for such great video for us.

@endezoor 3 жыл бұрын

Quality content right there. Nice work, sir! Really enjoyable video and process of a pretty difficult part. Good job!

@marcoinghingoli2120 2 жыл бұрын

Seeing you work is a pleasure for the eyes .. my compliments for the high professionalism. Amazing.. Good job from Italy..

@heronguarezi6501 3 жыл бұрын

have you filmed you shoveling all those chips? I love hard work, can watch all day!

@MrDejast 3 жыл бұрын

In our next video, we will make coasters from this 6" slab.

@Scavs_Inc 2 жыл бұрын

“ is for inches. Did you mean ‘ as in feet?

@NotCoolNancy 2 жыл бұрын

Hahaha

@fredfonebone5108 3 жыл бұрын

I love seeing a wee little test indicator attached to such a ginormous machine!

@Mcfryguy5555 3 жыл бұрын

Good video thanks for sharing! It's never fun when the part becomes magnetized!

@ryangiambra7353 3 жыл бұрын

I’m am a sophomore student at a trade high school studying precision machining (manufacturing) and I was wonder if you have any tips or advice

@electedsphinx4086 3 жыл бұрын

@ryan giambra my tip to you is subscribe to this channel and study this mans quality and professionalism, and actually read the books!!!

@ryangiambra7353 3 жыл бұрын

@@electedsphinx4086 I’ve been watching a few of his videos and techniques also thanks for the advice

@timnor4803 3 жыл бұрын

Stay in school and don't do meth 😂🇺🇸

@ryangiambra7353 3 жыл бұрын

@@timnor4803 yes sir🤣🇺🇸

@somethingelse4424 2 жыл бұрын

Run a lot of parts. Take pride in the finished product, eventually you get actual pleasure from holding machined parts, or watching a machine effortlessly throw chips, and being able to make it do exactly what you want it to. I think about it while I'm falling sleep sometimes... A turn tool making perfect discrete chips like fusili pasta and leaving a mirror finish. I've learned the most by having to program a part from scratch with no instruction, make jaws/fixtures, decide what tools, and figure out feed and speeds myself. I learned fastest and the most personally by having to think through all the steps to make a part myself, rather than being handed instructions, fixtures, and tooling. Being able to read GCode as if it were a second language is incredibly useful career wise... It is fairly standard across machines and industries, and makes the difference between being a button pusher or opening doors into engineering.

@user-rp6fq3fp7d 3 жыл бұрын

Видео о том как перегнать почти тонну металла в стружку

@iglzsick 3 жыл бұрын

Гораздо лучше чем каждый раз разоряться на новые пуансоны с матрицами под штамповку для штучной работы или делать литую заготовку "из говна и палок" забив на технические требования, как в РФ на предприятиях частенько делают.

@gwharton68 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Peter. A very enjoyable hour.

@troysteinbrecher4998 3 жыл бұрын

Great tip on the center drills! Thanks for videos!

@daniloxyz 3 жыл бұрын

It feels like someone should start to forge round stock with flanges: easier to cut off 3x excess length, than to turn down 3x excess diameter... They may even become a standard if there isn't one already.

@tallswede80 3 жыл бұрын

no the proper way is to use trepanning.

@ramanshah7627 3 жыл бұрын

I had the same idea - I think there's a solid business idea here for someone with a forge. The hard part is to work out an optimal inventory: there are too many variables in the shape of the blank (2 diameters and 2 lengths) to brute force the inventory the way you can brute force an inventory of cylindrical stock (1 diameter and 1 length). I think one could crack it with the right combination of engineering and relationships with job shops (to gather market intelligence). And if one could, I think there would be some healthy margins there!

@bschwand 3 жыл бұрын

I think the efficient way is to friction weld two adequately sized cylinders

@ramanshah7627 3 жыл бұрын

@@tallswede80 See kzfaq.info/get/bejne/r7akott2zODWmHk.html for a direct response from Peter :)

@ramanshah7627 3 жыл бұрын

@@bschwand See kzfaq.info/get/bejne/r7akott2zODWmHk.html for a direct response from Peter :)

@thzzzt 3 жыл бұрын

Wow, they absolutely needed a solid piece huh? Couldn't it have been made from two smaller pieces, welded, then turned? Geez, 90% of the stock turned to chips. Also, using a shovel to collect the chips: LOL, I use a little paintbrush.

@scrout 3 жыл бұрын

He explained earlier two pc versions failed

@jasonhill2180 3 жыл бұрын

Sometimes making it from solid is the most efficient way vs assemblies, casting, or forging. Makes me cringe a bit though, seems wasteful. Fun to watch though!

@nemideergoon1844 3 жыл бұрын

Itl all gets remelted into new material, not wasted

@Moppup 2 ай бұрын

Laying in bed, drinking a Guinness and watching some guy lathe a huge chunk of metal. Life’s good.

@Steve_Just_Steve 3 жыл бұрын

Awesome video Peter. Love watching your process

@JrSertan 3 жыл бұрын

Your videos are very, very educational. Thank you!

@motorbreath22 2 жыл бұрын

That cam overlay was perfect

@lindboknifeandtool Жыл бұрын

That machine is amazing. 1/4” depth passes, jeeze. Your shots are great

@Trenz0 6 ай бұрын

Woah, that tip about center drills is pretty cool

@unclelar53 2 жыл бұрын

Well done, nice work. I probably would not have thought of that strap trick for finished part removal. Sweet.

@Pentode3000 Жыл бұрын

Great video and a good example of how much manual labour, thought process and experience goes into making quality parts. Most people including bosses always think CNC is just putting raw material in the machine and press the start button and while the machine is running you can handle three other machines as well. OH NO.

@mikesnifferpippets3733 7 ай бұрын

I’m no lathe expert, especially CNC lathes, but that one is one of the coolest setups I’ve ever seen… second guessing my life choices 😂

@benjo233223 2 жыл бұрын

I never realized that about centre drills, thanks for the tip.

@muimasmacho Жыл бұрын

Tapping holes like that always makes me grit my tooth. 😲 What balls you have!

@Laura-wc5xt 3 жыл бұрын

really enjoyed this, thanks so much for making and posting, Paul

@Clarsen1990 3 жыл бұрын

Nice to see the way you work. Quality work!

@CapnJackSB 2 жыл бұрын

HA Ha Ha.. Watching you shovel all of those shavings out of the lathe bed. I can relate... I just used my old Craftsman to turn a piece of 3"x 18" stock down to 1" to make a barrel for a muzzleloader and filled two 45 gallon garbage cans with turnings.

@orlan88greg 2 жыл бұрын

You sir made Data from star trek jaw dropped, with your meticulous skill...well done sir...edge precision engage.

@lukeosmond8952 3 жыл бұрын

Engineers create the component designs through calculation, CAD/CAM and in depth analysis. But it's craftman like this man who bring it to life. Technology may have got more advanced but you will never find a replacement for skill, experience and attention to detail.

@sanches2 3 жыл бұрын

And because of engineers like us he has to remove so much material to get a shaft with a huge flange:). 20 years ago in my second week as a design endineer at the factory i had a call from a machinist from one of the shops and he was furious. When i went downstairs he opened the tooling room and said" -please find the tool to make this stupidity of your possible!". 2 years later we were best friends and he taught me how to work (basic stuff) on the milling machine and the lathe. And arranged that i go and do couple of shifts. Afterwards noone complained again from my part designs and i grew huge respect to the wizzards from the shop. I called and asked when i had some strange idea instead of trying to force it on them. This is something you learn your whole life. Later on i tok anothe Bsc in mechatronics and masters in Electronics and now i have more years as an electronics engineer. But the experience was priceless.

@josephgarrard7692 3 жыл бұрын

Your work is really impressive!

@frankthespank 3 жыл бұрын

Damn that’s a lot of chips! And that’s one hell of a chunk of steel! I’m just a home gamer so I just enjoy watching stuff like this even though I know nothing about machining, I just find it interesting as all hell. 😎