Electrician Reacts to Photonicinduction INSANITY 🤯

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@ShookieJay
@ShookieJay Жыл бұрын
I've been following photonicinduction for over 10 years. I love to see his madness get some recognition lol great vid m8
@thinklist
@thinklist Жыл бұрын
He seams to be a bit of a legend 💪 thanks for the support
@goodgoodstuff
@goodgoodstuff Жыл бұрын
I really like his channel.
@thinklist
@thinklist Жыл бұрын
@@goodgoodstuff really appreciate that mate!
@josephgauthier5018
@josephgauthier5018 Жыл бұрын
Same here. He's a mad man and I love every bit of it. I'm so happy he's back on the internet after his hiatus!!!
@IllgoRythm
@IllgoRythm Жыл бұрын
@@thinklist Yep watching Photonicinduction for years hes a legend.He actually came up with the brick in the washing machine video.Legend!
@HeartOfGermany
@HeartOfGermany Жыл бұрын
He surrounded the cables to increase the insulation further. The PVC tape to prevent water entering from the greens. He knows, what he is doing. He is insane, but genius.
@thinklist
@thinklist Жыл бұрын
A crazy 😜 insane, genius
@legominimovieproductions
@legominimovieproductions Жыл бұрын
I think its more of an isolation for the 3kV going through it, those cables are normally not rated for more than 1kV
@stiggyness1976
@stiggyness1976 Жыл бұрын
Andy is a fully qualified electrical engineer. I'm sure he does alot of work for hospitals and other such work. He hasn't let on too much, but has given a few snippets here and there.
@TestGearJunkie.
@TestGearJunkie. 10 ай бұрын
@@thinklist And a good friend, we're proud to know him.
@phiipichut247
@phiipichut247 3 ай бұрын
@@TestGearJunkie. I hope he‘s fine - hasn‘t posted anything in a while and some of his last vids made it seem like he had been going through a rough patch or two
@Sypher474
@Sypher474 Жыл бұрын
Absolute OG, the GOAT, lord of the madlads, whatever language you happen to use, Photon is the KING of KZfaq. Always will be. The giant rock in the unkillable washing machine is internet history. Andy deserves much better than life dealt him.
@cwtoyota
@cwtoyota 9 ай бұрын
You have to understand some things about electrical power to appreciate how gnarly many of his "projects" really are... I think that's part of the reason he's not at the top of the fame and fortune list of internet "madlads".
@gonun69
@gonun69 Жыл бұрын
I love how the parallel cables try to spread appart just from the huge magnetic fields
@thinklist
@thinklist Жыл бұрын
I know right
@TheAdatto
@TheAdatto Жыл бұрын
That didn't happen at all.
@oliverer3
@oliverer3 Жыл бұрын
My favorite part when spot welding batteries is the cables jumping in your hands from the shear amperage levels, and mine only does 1500A on a good day.
@gonun69
@gonun69 Жыл бұрын
@@TheAdatto Yes it did, look at 12:11 in the video. Both pairs of cables are close together, but when the current flows they spread apart. That's because the current creates a magnetic field around the cable. Because the current in the two cables of each pair flows in the same direction, the magnetic fields have the same orientation and therefore repel each other.
@science7542
@science7542 Жыл бұрын
@@gonun69 if two parallel wires have the same direction of current, they actually attract each other, because surrounding magnetic loops of each wire are positioned in same direction in series as NS NS thus they attract each other instead
@emiel333
@emiel333 Жыл бұрын
“You can’t caught COVID via KZfaq. Unless you have 5G of course” 😂😂😂 You have a great sense of humor my friend!
@-xirx-
@-xirx- Жыл бұрын
The man, the myth, the legend... Photonic Induction!
@notamouse5630
@notamouse5630 Жыл бұрын
The ripples on insulators is to ensure that tracking currents on a dirty insulator are going a longer distance and maybe burn off locally instead of producing a full arc.
@thinklist
@thinklist Жыл бұрын
Nice I thought 💭 so
@1pcfred
@1pcfred Жыл бұрын
Don't be silly. It's ribbed for her pleasure.
@NSaw1
@NSaw1 Жыл бұрын
@@thinklist It also has to do with the surface of an insulating material, I have experimented with it and also recently I saw a video about it, but I can't find it now. So basically if you have a solid insulator and two wires 2cm apart inside the insulator, it can insulate the two from each other at a given voltage. But if you where to have the same type of insulation but have a clean, dry surface between the two wires it will jump across the surface of the insulator at a much lower voltage than even that if there where just air between the wires. So the surface of an insulator has a lower resistance than a solid insulator, which is another reason why even standoff insulators that are indoors will have some ribbing. I wish I could find the video, it was very interesting.
@Lucien86
@Lucien86 Жыл бұрын
​@@thinklist Everything said is no doubt true but there are more basic reasons for the ribbing - disk structure. - It provides a large maximum centre to outer insulation distance for minimum material. - In insulators made of ceramic it also provides a much better more stable shape that is less likely to shatter or explode during firing. - The third reason I know is that for insulators outside in the rain the ribs create a series of air gaps that are better able to avoid continuous water surfaces forming. The gap disk structure is also good at breaking any plasma arcs that result if a water link does form. Also at resisting the shock of small explosions.
@bpj1805
@bpj1805 9 ай бұрын
Maybe also to drop water off the edge rather than providing a nice conductive film of moist dust.
@2Cerealbox
@2Cerealbox Жыл бұрын
> Don't try this at home. I want to know the kind of person who has a 200kA power source at home, but is also not qualified to blow up a capacitor with it.
@thinklist
@thinklist Жыл бұрын
😆 this is so true mate 🤙
@Stealth_Droid
@Stealth_Droid Жыл бұрын
Me lmao
@insylogo
@insylogo Жыл бұрын
What a legend? OH yeah man he's a total legend. He did so much of this stuff like a decade ago, and he just suddenly came back recently. He's the kind of person that you can only wonder what he does for his day job to play with this stuff at home.
@thinklist
@thinklist Жыл бұрын
I know right 🤯 I’m going to have to do more of his videos
@-xirx-
@-xirx- Жыл бұрын
@@thinklist please do!
@Translucentism
@Translucentism Жыл бұрын
He's actually a pretty well known electrical engineer where he lives - I recall seeing him in a commercial somewhere on YT
@rfitzgerald2004
@rfitzgerald2004 Жыл бұрын
@@Translucentism he did a commercial for his accountant advertising their services. He owns a company called Lasertex which I believe are involved in electrical test and measurement equipment
@peterjohnson9438
@peterjohnson9438 Жыл бұрын
PI seems to get some primal and carnal satisfaction from making electrical gear pop... He's one of the few KZfaqrs that genuinely scare me
@theteenageengineer
@theteenageengineer Жыл бұрын
Even through the 185mm cable is only rated for around 400amps, he is counting on the duration of the surge of current being so short that it won’t have enough time to melt and vaporize the conductors. The energy transfer here is also extremely crazy if we use the capacitor energy storage formula: E= 1/2 * C * V^2 where c is the capacitance in farads, v is the the voltage, and e is the energy the capacitor stores in Jules. And by using this formula we can determine that the capacitor bank is releasing 45,000 Jules of energy in under a second which is totally insane! Anyway excellent way of explaining what’s going on for the folks who are not sparkies or electrical engineers
@thinklist
@thinklist Жыл бұрын
This AWESOME 😎 45,000 Jules is insane 🤪 I never know how detailed to get when analysing, it’s a fine line but if the people want it I’m happy to do it 💪
@bpomowe224
@bpomowe224 Жыл бұрын
@@thinklist Joules!!! Jules is Verne ;)
@LFTRnow
@LFTRnow 8 ай бұрын
Another good thing to check would be to estimate the resistance of the setup. Those cables in parallel for the ~6 meters (3m there and back) is about 0.06 mohm/m or about 0.4 mohm. It's hard to be sure what the rest of the setup resistance is, but let's use 1 mohm as a guess. He said 3kV was the capacitor voltage. 3kV/1mohm = 3MA. His goal of 200kA was probably reached. It also shows the 185mm cables were more than enough to handle delivering that current without much loss. If we assume 200kA through 1 mohm, that is a V=IxR = 200V drop, leaving 2.8kV left for the fuse. It is really too bad we don't see him use tools like a mohm meter on the setup, or a scope (with divider) to see the current or voltage curve hitting this thing, but it does blow up fairly quickly, so he probably got quite close to his 200kA goal. The reason he probably needed 3 runs to fully break it was the current was applied for too short of a time.
@ShookieJay
@ShookieJay 8 ай бұрын
Great Scott! 1.21 jigawatts 😱🤯
@narmale
@narmale 8 ай бұрын
you forgot derate for length
@brendanmurphy9522
@brendanmurphy9522 Жыл бұрын
Photonicinduction is an absolute legend. He is the man that inspired me to start my career in electrical engineering
@traindrivernick
@traindrivernick 9 ай бұрын
I love his channel. His flourescent lighting video and mercury arc rectifier videos are brilliant and quite educational too!
@halfrhovsquared
@halfrhovsquared Жыл бұрын
PI Is awesome. I used to love his videos a decade or so ago and he dropped off for some years due to some personal issues. ... Then, he returned, crazier than ever. This looks like one of his later videos. He really is something special. I always cheer when he says, "until it pops". You mention low production values - I don't think he likes to spend a lot of money on cameras because he keeps on destroying them. I love the raw feel to his videos.
@deeeezel
@deeeezel Жыл бұрын
Dude is a national treasure for real, ive been watching his videos for decades 😂
@warrmr
@warrmr Жыл бұрын
It was awesome when he came back to YT, but then he seems to have vanished a year or so ago :( Hope he comes back to YT for good man. Would love to see him do a collar with the SloMoGuys.
@BenCos2018
@BenCos2018 Жыл бұрын
@@warrmr agreed
@jetjazz05
@jetjazz05 Жыл бұрын
Been watching this guy for a decade; you're absolutely correct, he is a legend.
@roscomcfarland204
@roscomcfarland204 Жыл бұрын
Ya know I wish he’d come back to his channel. I don’t believe there is anyone else showing the amount of power he does. The man is a mad scientist and a national treasure of the U.K. His name is Andy Moir I believe
@thinklist
@thinklist Жыл бұрын
I agree ☝️ this was the first video I watch of his and I loved it.
@cheeseburgerbeefcake
@cheeseburgerbeefcake Жыл бұрын
With the price of electricity in the UK, I'm not surprised the boy is offline!
@topduk
@topduk Жыл бұрын
The UK defecated in his mouth over his spouse's immigration. He's probably moving countries.
@ratbag359
@ratbag359 Жыл бұрын
not many people get thier supply upgraded to take 100amps at 230v just to do youtube videos.
@topduk
@topduk Жыл бұрын
@@ratbag359 It's typical for even old houses in Canada to have 100A at 220V, quite often 200A.
@imark7777777
@imark7777777 Жыл бұрын
The reason I heard for the ripples in the high-voltage insulators is also due to rain conducting across. The gaps allow the rain to break when dripping down and reduces arc over.
@binaryglitch64
@binaryglitch64 Жыл бұрын
5:20 "I like this guy already what a legend!" Been watching him for years, you're not wrong... he's an absolute legend!
@mica4153
@mica4153 Жыл бұрын
I love that KZfaq has recommended this for me! long time Photonicinduction subscriber. Andy is mental! Would love to see more of his insanity broken down
@mitchbelectronics
@mitchbelectronics Жыл бұрын
Would love to see an electrician reacts to Bigclive’s cooking videos...... cooking with electricity of course. Also love photon 😍
@thinklist
@thinklist Жыл бұрын
Oh nice one ☝️
@kentworch
@kentworch Жыл бұрын
I'd have to say photon is amazing. He's done a lot of awesome stuff. Many demonstrations and experiments. He's a very intelligent man who does all the things you should never try at home so you can see it without having to try it yourself. Don't get me when, I'm familiar with installing light switches, outlets, switched outlets ceiling fans and the like. I know what I'm doing when it comes to stuff like that. I would never mess with anything over 240 volts and definitely not capacitors charged with thousands of volts. Microwave transformers can put out 5000 volts and the charged capacitor inside is something I wouldn't play with. I know my limits and won't do something dangerous. He's an electrical engineer and knows a lot more about not making mistakes than a do it yourselfer working with basic conduit. I like in the USA so we run on split phase. We do have 240 volts between phase 1 and 2 hots, but most of the plug receptacles and light fixtures run on a single phase to neutral. Only the big appliances like the dryer, electric stove, water heater, and the central heat pump for the whole house HVAC run on the full 240 volts. Everything else run on 120. Anyway we should all appreciate photon for doing the things we should never try unless suicide is the goal.
@BritishEngineer
@BritishEngineer 8 ай бұрын
He is not just “a very intelligent man” he possibly has qualifications in electrical engineering, I say pre graduate but somewhere around hnc - HnD level electrical engineering with a qualification in level 3 electrical installations by evidence of his craftsmanship and healthy balance concerning designing and building electrical machinery and equipment. Then again he could be self taught.
@foogod4237
@foogod4237 Жыл бұрын
The trick with the power cables is that those ratings are assuming continuous power draw over an extended period. For this application, the current is only going to exist for a brief fraction of a second, and so the total heating of the cable will be much lower, and thus you can pump a whole lot more current through it, as long as it's only for a very short time. They still might not last forever, though, if you reuse them enough times...
@johncoops6897
@johncoops6897 8 ай бұрын
The current rating isn't even based on that... it's related to the amount of (acceptable) voltage drop over the cable run. The amount of current is consistent at all parts of the circuit, so providing there is some voltage available, there will be the same amount of current at the load (a poppable fuse in this case) as started out at the source (capacitor bank).
@Zodliness
@Zodliness Жыл бұрын
Photonicinduction (Andy) is one cool dude and I can't recommend his channel enough, Andy over time has uploaded hundreds of insane "will it pop" videos. 👍🏻‍
@Mackaygolf
@Mackaygolf Жыл бұрын
The look on your face when he mentioned a pneumatic switch was absolutely PRICELESS. I immediately intuited the reason for this, as you did also, our reactions were the same, I couldn't resist the mischievous grin either!
@thinklist
@thinklist Жыл бұрын
I'm glad someone else got that. I mean this stuff is crazy
@girlsdrinkfeck
@girlsdrinkfeck Жыл бұрын
his transformer video is mental when he drawn so much amperage from the mains supply the whole street lights flickered ( when he tried to overdraw a electric meter )
@lrexoticgaming5636
@lrexoticgaming5636 10 ай бұрын
thats my one of my favourites, "EEEER THEM HOUSE'S LIGHTS ARE FAACKING FLASHING" "SWEAR ON YOUR FAAAAKING CHRIST"
@jclark2752
@jclark2752 Жыл бұрын
Love photonic! Glad to see I’m not the only one that flinches when he flips the switch! 😅
@zaprodk
@zaprodk Жыл бұрын
The ribs on the insulators are for making it harder for tracking to happen. A spark will just jump across and take the shortest path - tracking will have to follow the surface.
@airpeguiV2
@airpeguiV2 Жыл бұрын
In the UK we call this, creepage. The disks on the insulator increase this creepage distance. Creepage is especially affected by the environment. E.g. closer to a road you'd need more because the fumes from the cars can be conductive. Likewise near a coastal area due to the salt spray from the ocean.
@audiogek
@audiogek Жыл бұрын
Still sad he's disappeared again, but happy to watch you enjoy his old videos. Glad I stumbled upon his channel when he just started, because he deleted quite a few.
@harvey_anderson
@harvey_anderson Жыл бұрын
David: I don't think electroboom has done something this dangerous. Photonicinduction: 5000a fuse let's start at 200000a
@DigBipper188
@DigBipper188 Жыл бұрын
Andy's an absolute beast. I've been watching his stuff for at least the alst decade - Never a dull moment (especially when he's shoving 20,000 watts through a giant metal halide lamp, or even just a measly 3kW through a 400w one! :) )
@GabrielWehrle
@GabrielWehrle Жыл бұрын
Wow, that was exciting! I'd love to see you react more to this channel. It's really cool to hear your knowledge on this stuff as you react! I hope you feel better soon, covid sucks! Praying for a quick recovery
@thinklist
@thinklist Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much mate. I do love breaking down what these guys are actually up to
@schrodingerscat1863
@schrodingerscat1863 Жыл бұрын
The sheds on high voltage insulators are to increase the surface area between the conductor and what ever it is being insulated from. This is because when the insulators get wet you get high voltages creeping along the surface of the insulator and so you want a longer distance on the surface of the insulator as the insulating properties are reduced by atmospheric conditions.
@thinklist
@thinklist Жыл бұрын
Nice, thought so
@mastergx1
@mastergx1 Жыл бұрын
Oh yea, photonic is nuts! He does high current and high voltage experiments. Great fun to watch
@markgrassl4449
@markgrassl4449 5 ай бұрын
7:15 The ribs on the insolators are there so water wouldn't form a continous film around the insulator, shorting it out. Thats als why most of the time the outline of the ribs go down-out and back in-up (umbrella shapes) so water would drip off at the lowest point and not wet the bottom surface so the bottom side of each rib would stay dry even trough rain.
@salty6pence672
@salty6pence672 Жыл бұрын
Have watched photonicinduction for many years, Glad he made a recent return. CHEERS
@thinklist
@thinklist Жыл бұрын
No worries mate 💪
@gregchambers6100
@gregchambers6100 9 ай бұрын
We tested lots of circuit breakers over 3 years I worked with Brar Electrical Systems and once we tested a 5000A circuit breaker. Our test sets have digital timers with huge Frankenstein nobs, transformer and contactor. 2000mcm cables, C clamps to buss bars would jump when testing. We used to suspend a screw driver in the air in the magnetic field. The "long time" test is at three times the rating, "short time" test is at 5 times the breaker rating and the instantaneous test is at 10 times the breaker rating. Extremely fun stuff.
@andie_pants
@andie_pants Жыл бұрын
You did exactly what I did for the steel wool bit and instinctively leaned back away from the screen! 🤣
@christopherleubner6633
@christopherleubner6633 Жыл бұрын
I remember finding similarly rated monster fuses, 3000A at 600WV. They came out of a huge induction casting machine. Got them and some 2000A 2800V hocky puck SCRs and a few large capacitors rated for high current RF duty all for free for help salvaging the copper from it. 🤓❤😁
@matthewsykes4814
@matthewsykes4814 Жыл бұрын
You should see his video on a breaker from a WWII submarine... it's a thing of beauty and even after contacting the maker, they didn't have any specs for it... And yes people, do not do this unless your completely aware of what your doing. Photon looks like a mad scientist type but he's supremely aware of what he's doing and how to do it safely... apart from burns in carpets and that's his back yard....
@nobody.of.importance
@nobody.of.importance 9 ай бұрын
7:16 Just spent about half an hour researching this and it looks like your description is spot on. Fine details are as follows: Insulators such as those pictured can break down typically in one of two ways: a puncture arc and a flashover arc. Puncture arcs quite literally burn through the material, leaving the insulator damaged. Flashover arcs, on the other hand, are when the electricity takes a path AROUND the insulator (as demonstrated), leaving the insulator more or less unharmed. Insulators as such are designed so that flashover arcs occur at lower voltages than puncture arcs. Additionally, being out in the elements pretty much at all times, they have to be able to handle contaminants on the surface, such as dust, soot, or even water. As such, they're designed so that it maximizes the distance the electricity has to flow across the surface *through* those contaminants. Additionally, a lot of them have an upside down saucer shape to prevent said contaminants from building up on the underside, further making a complete circuit around the insulator less likely. Obviously I'm not a professional, but it's still a pretty neat topic. Never thought such a simple thing would have so much effort put into it, eh?
@lsswappedcessna
@lsswappedcessna Жыл бұрын
On photonicinduction's pneumatic switch, I like the phrase "crazy but not stupid." The same could fit ElectroBOOM (considering he often electrocutes himself for comedic value and to prove a point) and Styropyro as well.
@davidcallanan6887
@davidcallanan6887 8 ай бұрын
One of the most amazing things about this feat is that even at 3000V he needed to keep the circuit resistance below 15 milliohms to deliver the 200,000 amps 🤯
@LeoH3L1
@LeoH3L1 8 ай бұрын
Regarding the HV line insulators, the shape of them isn't to prevent jumping, the gap does that, it's for another thing called "creepage". There's two concepts at play there, there's what's called creepage and clearance. There's two ways that current can "jump" a gap, a jump strictly speaking is via an arc through the air, which is where the clearance is the primary insulating factor, but it can also creep along a non conductive surface, this isn't so much a "jump", as it is along a surface, by having those "ribs" you increase the distance along that surface to the point where it is too far for it to creep across it. You can achieve sufficient clearance, but still have problems with creepage if you don't design it properly, and creepage can be massively effected by for example water, so by shaping those insulators like that, they act like their own little stack of umbrellas, the underside being kept dry, and keeping enough dry surface to prevent creepage even if it has been raining. So it's a clever design that both increases the surface distance between the conductor and the pylon, and provides protection from water wetting the undersides of each section. The distances invoved in creepage and clearance are very dependent on the voltage and the physical conditions, eg moisture content of the air, surface dryness, surface finish, surface contamination, which water on it would be. Also if there is a conformal coating that has an effect too, as the current could instead go through that rather than run along the now covered surface, adding a conformal coating could actually in some cases make things worse than leaving it exposed. The design of things with creepage and clearance in mind can get very very involved, and that's just what I've picked up from looking into it for work and working with people who deal with this day in day out. I wish I could post a pic on here, but if you search for "creepage and clearance" there's a great picture of such an insulator where someone has drawn on it the creepage and clearance paths (even though they've spelt creepage wrong) and it shows that the design of these drastically increases the creepage distance. I will post the link as a reply to this, but I think that thinkLIST will have to approve it for it to be visible.
@mitchbelectronics
@mitchbelectronics Жыл бұрын
Also this is such a good explanation of current / time graphs, love the Aussie touch too of course!
@thinklist
@thinklist Жыл бұрын
Really appreciate the support mate 💪
@mardo305
@mardo305 Жыл бұрын
another interesting channel to watch. should definitely add that to your react list.
@thinklist
@thinklist Жыл бұрын
Thanks mate
@DavidStruveDesigns
@DavidStruveDesigns 2 ай бұрын
Part of the reason for insulator design is yes to provide more surface area the current needs to defeat to complete the circuit, but it's also to push that potential arc outwards so that it is forced outside of any magnetic field created between the two attached cables which would make it easier for arcing current to flow through (sort of like it's own invisible cable made up of a magnetic field "tube") as WELL as designed that way with the flare at the bottom (along with various geometry added around the lowest lip) to try and prevent water from rainfall from dripping down in a single stream from one cable end to the other that could cause a short to flow through it. The rain is essentially pushed outwards and made to drip rather than flow, so that there's no way it flows down close to the bottom connection point. I watched a video here on YT that went through the history of insulator disc designs and how they changed over time - their overall shape, the length of the entire set of insulators, how many are used etc. It was rather a fascinating look into something almost none of us ever think about that does such an important job!
@lethal2453
@lethal2453 2 күн бұрын
My only experience on HV is in the ACT, I work for a communications company that use some HV poles to run spans of Fibre in areas that underground is undesired, we use 70kn polymeric to isolate from potential in the poles and move out of the capacitive ranges.
@g0fvt
@g0fvt Жыл бұрын
It takes a certain crazy mentality to fully enjoy his videos, great to see your reaction.
@SgtFvMC
@SgtFvMC Жыл бұрын
I love this video from him. The absolut madness of information at 4:24 is mind-boggling. I set this as a ringtone on my phone in the past 🤣🤣
@CotyRiddle
@CotyRiddle Жыл бұрын
the ridges in the insulators are also there to help keep from arcing when raining.
@Ryan_Harkin
@Ryan_Harkin 8 ай бұрын
This is the first video of yours ive watched and its about one of my old all time favourite youtuber.
@TDGalea
@TDGalea 8 ай бұрын
Photon's always been a fave of mine whenever he's managed to upload. Seeing ElectroBOOM etc. on here too, very excited to go through these. Although I think I might have spoiled the rest with this one 🤣 I'd love to see more Photon vids among the rest, if you've not already got them!
@gazs7237
@gazs7237 Жыл бұрын
This video is so dangerous he has to wear a hardhat just to watch it
@user-lx3th5on8l
@user-lx3th5on8l 2 ай бұрын
Yeah like he's scared the extremely high voltage comes crashing out of the screen and gets him 😂
@Subgunman
@Subgunman Жыл бұрын
I believe Rodalco2007 in New Zealand also plays with high Voltage devices. He obviously works for a power company and has access to very high voltage equipment as well but not to the extreme as Andy's channel.
@MattsMadnessOfficial
@MattsMadnessOfficial Жыл бұрын
Been watching Andy for many years one of my favorite channels
@obsgr1
@obsgr1 Жыл бұрын
HV insulators are ribbed for both more surface area and to reduce water droplets from creating a shorter path. The more you have and the bigger they are the larger the voltage and amps can go through. Where they are used, eg. in salt air environments or in the plains, and the material they're made from, eg. glass, ceramic, composite, can also affect the flashover current.
@tysondundas1947
@tysondundas1947 Жыл бұрын
In the UK we have the IET Wiring Regulations that are a British standard. Bs767. It has very similar charts to the ones you showed. For the short run and duration of use I'd not worry about the trunking/ conduit. I'd say the conduit was to protect the cable insulation as it tensed.
@thinklist
@thinklist Жыл бұрын
Agreed. Those cables were thrashing around a bit
@kaliss7192
@kaliss7192 3 ай бұрын
Electroboom only PRETENDS to be crazy. He's got a wife and kids. Photonicinduction is actually crazy.
@HotelPapa100
@HotelPapa100 9 ай бұрын
Re insulator shapes: 1, as you said, to increase the creep distance. Once you have a flashover that is no longer relevant. 2. they are umbrella shaped for a reason. that way part of the insulators surface remains dry in the rain, it also accumulates less dirt that would allow for moisture to collect and allow for creep currents.
@aelrondragonlord
@aelrondragonlord Жыл бұрын
PhotonicInduction is a pure legend when it comes to destroying electronics. I love watching his videos. If I recall correctly, though I may be wrong, in one of his videos he was showing off a hydrogen reactor he has to power his equipment and capacitor bank.
@thinklist
@thinklist Жыл бұрын
WHAT a hydrogen reactor. That is mental
@michaelslee4336
@michaelslee4336 Жыл бұрын
I love Photonic and have watched him since the early days and he didn’t make vids for a long time and it was nice to see him back.
@ehsanshahzad4971
@ehsanshahzad4971 Жыл бұрын
"Pulling power directly from the NATIONAL GIRD" if you know you know.
@SpencerHHO
@SpencerHHO Жыл бұрын
Photon makes electroboom seem like timid child's play. The video is no longer up but he once caused his entire street to brown out temporarily...... His name is Andy BTW if you're not aware yet.
@alexwood020589
@alexwood020589 8 ай бұрын
I love the way you just totally got into it E joying watching him destroy stuff, then near the end said "this is insanely dangerous by the way, don't do this" like you weren't just nodding and smiling along haha.
@user-ue1il6cx3v
@user-ue1il6cx3v Жыл бұрын
His electric company is probably like there he goes again.
@sgtrock68
@sgtrock68 Жыл бұрын
I remember that guy. He lit up a giant vintage tube that really freaked me out since I've never worked with tubes of any kind. Giant modern fuses, yes, but no tubes.
@davidmcdonald3314
@davidmcdonald3314 Жыл бұрын
The multiple ribs / plates in big insulators would, I believe, also separate each disc from those beside it and should provide multiple spark gaps that would need to be overcome - so there is multiple layers of redundancy against bridging the gaps by ingress if dirt, water, etcetera
@HarrisonFrith-cr4ie
@HarrisonFrith-cr4ie 8 ай бұрын
Hi - the ribs on insulators serve two purposes - they disrupt the shape of the electrical field and they also are "umbrella shaped" so they don't collect rain
@zerumsum1640
@zerumsum1640 Жыл бұрын
I've always heard it as the ribs on insulators are there so rain/water doesn't have a chance to create a path for the power back to the pole. i can see that being a concern in power transmission, as for here it may have something to do with making sure the path that the electricity would have to take if it is following the surface of the insulator far longer than if it was just a solid piece.
@thinklist
@thinklist Жыл бұрын
I think 🤔 you’re spot on
@mentalimbalance6808
@mentalimbalance6808 8 күн бұрын
This has given me some great ideas for some experiments. Thanks.
@lonnymoore2622
@lonnymoore2622 Жыл бұрын
i would also imagine the ribs on the insolators also keeps water from shorting the termanals sense it cant form a full path to the casing .
@tommy13t
@tommy13t Жыл бұрын
Love this video. I am subscribing and looking forward to maybe you doing more photonicinductions videos?
@geoffmolyneux9173
@geoffmolyneux9173 8 ай бұрын
I worked for a company that that had work place feed with a 4Mwatt transformer. 72kvolts primary fused at 60 amps, 600 volts secondary. With 6000 amp fusing 200 feet away from transform. Feed from the transformer was stacked bus bars unfused. 1) first event we had 6000 amp main breaker blow because of MCC cells fusing uncorwardaided fusing. IE one cell was 1600 amps. We had x6cells =9600 amps. Normal current draw was about 4000 amps, but when we got a short circuit on one of cell feeder cables, it tripped main 6000 amp breaker. Contacts were all arced out. 2) then a while later we had the bus bar short out. They assumed a hot junction, as these bus bars were clamped to join, not a bolted connection. A joint every 8 feet. Not a good design. A person was walking about 50 feet away, almost shit his pants. The primary fuse blew. And the clamping bolts were torque to yield, so no way to come back later to retorque the clamp bolts. Maybe joint expanded from #1 trip. But we lost 3 weeks of power from that transformer waiting for bus bars. I would go with multiple single conductors. At least you only have 2 end bolts to torque. Instead of 60 plus clamp bolts. 3) even 12 Volts DC, with enough amperage can kill you. I was trying to jump start a wheel grapple loader. There were 2 D31 batteries on machine, but not enough voltage to spin engine, then i hooked another d31, and finally a 200 amp battery charger. Well over 1000 amps, enough to weld the start contacts together. I knew batteries were getting hot so i reached down to remove one of the jumper cables, when the batteries blew up due to hydrogen build up. I had an arc in a box, with nice battery acid coming at me. Good thing i wore my PPE. I am here today.
@IanTaig
@IanTaig Ай бұрын
Just a comment on the insulators, the reason they are shaped that way is for 2 reasons, the first is to drastically increase the creepage distance to reduce the how likely there will be surface tracking, the other reason is when they are out in the open, it would be incredibly hard to get all of the surface wet because of their shape, so you will get tracking on the wet surfaces but not as much on the dry. If you have been near a tower that is 220kV or higher after rain, you can hear them buzzing, that is tracking across the insulator surface which happens when pollutants contaminate the surface and get wet.
@StefsEngineering
@StefsEngineering Жыл бұрын
In the netherlands the default trip value is B, when requested you can get higher for for example the garage if you run higher starting current devices but it is an option not standard. I needed them as well when I bought my 2.2kw 230mm angle grinder. it has no soft start so the peak current was way too high for the fuse (schakelautomaat in dutch is translated to automatic switch I assume this is not correct?) My new workshop has 400v 35A main connection that branches out to a couple 400v outlets, a couple 230v C24 and the rest 230v B16 as is common for domestic appliances (such as my computer, audioset etc. I saw photon's video's first about 8 years ago, interesting for sure! Good to see he's back, he stopped uploading for a couple years. (now that I think of it, my last video is also more than 3 years ago, about time for something new!)
@AllToDevNull
@AllToDevNull 8 ай бұрын
The ribs are against ice forming. In cases where you have ice rain, the underpass prevents a continious icesheet from forming, thus, preventing arching or short to earth. The Increase of surface is a nice bonus.
@ChainsawFPV
@ChainsawFPV Жыл бұрын
That negative cable laying over the positive bus bar. Imagine if something happened and it shorted that capacitor bank?
8 ай бұрын
To be a bit more precise, the ribs on insulators are there mostly for water. If it's enclosed, then it can be just a ceramic tube but if it's outside, a bit of water on the surface will be enough for high voltage to jump over it. Those ribs don't let the water to create low resistance path on the surface. That's also why there is different design depending on the orientation of the insulator.
@Oysteims
@Oysteims Жыл бұрын
The look-up table you have for cable current is already quite heavily derated - and extremely conservative. If you look at other tables such as "SAE AS50881 - Wiring Aerospace Vehicle specification" you will find that a 4/0 AWG (120mm2) cable is rated for approximately 1000 Amps continuous load (un-bundled with a PTFE/ETFE sheath & aramid jacket @ 1ATM). For a microsecond pulse like this, the cables can easily handle orders of magnitude more current that that.
@albing1397
@albing1397 8 ай бұрын
Allen Bradley has a high current test facility in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, USA. A 50 HP motor drives a big flywheel low voltage generator (about 10 meters in diameter), Basically you spin up the generator, declutch the motor as you close air switches to the load causing the freewheeling generator to dynamically brake with the bolted fault. There is an air core transformer to select various voltages and currents. All cables and bus bars are supported by wood to avoid inducing unwanted currents . UL, IEC & NEMA testing certified.
@tommy13t
@tommy13t Жыл бұрын
Photonicinduction is the best KZfaqr out there. I sure do miss his videos. But since you picked up his video, I may add you to my list. Love this video by the way.
@leexgx
@leexgx 8 ай бұрын
I really hope you watch the rest of his videos and the setup in the Attic (with burns on the carpet) he does have a vent system up there
@depressobbq404
@depressobbq404 Жыл бұрын
ive been subbed to this guy off and on since the beginning, hes a NUT, but we love him for it. best photon quote ever is "I aint 'avin it" followed by "I popped it"
@oscodains
@oscodains Жыл бұрын
I regularly quote “ I ain’t havin’ it, wheres my hamma.”
@depressobbq404
@depressobbq404 Жыл бұрын
@@oscodains me too!
@foobarables
@foobarables 8 ай бұрын
When considering insulation you must consider creepage and clearance. Creepage is the shortest distance over a surface between two conductors and clearance is the shortest distance trough air between two conductors. The ribs just increase the creepage distance.
@victoriaevelyn3953
@victoriaevelyn3953 8 ай бұрын
I saw the thumbnail and got really excited i thought he had uploaded again
@FemboyAhri
@FemboyAhri Жыл бұрын
I love this man, is is uploading all the best KZfaqrs
@hardrays
@hardrays 3 ай бұрын
i've got a main panel half full of "high rupture current" (lol) breakers - made by federal pacific. i hardly notice their existence in the circuit but neither does ANY load. So i put a sub panel following it all with modern breakers.
@Le_Jit
@Le_Jit 8 ай бұрын
Hahaha I love your videos, man. This stuff is a riot (S.O. --> Electroboom, StyroPyro!)
@daniellabunsky653
@daniellabunsky653 Жыл бұрын
You should do another Photoninduction video!!
@Goabnb94
@Goabnb94 Жыл бұрын
Fair to say ElectroBOOM is "lets play with high voltage!" Photonicinduction is "lets crank up the amps!"
@-Jethro-
@-Jethro- Жыл бұрын
If PI goes outside instead of just burning up the carpet, you know it’s serious!
@cr76802
@cr76802 Жыл бұрын
I've seen 3 1000 fast blow fuses blow the cover of the housing and launched it across the shop.. I clocked out bought a lotto ticket and headed home
@PBSK1DS
@PBSK1DS 8 ай бұрын
The ripples on the insulator/feedthrough/standoff are for electric field manipulation. A sinusoidal or parabolic pattern (revolved around the cable/current axis) takes advantage of electric field lines' tendency to follow the shape of the medium; the density of equipotential lines (voltage essentially) maximizes at the sharpest points for the same reason. A smooth, uneven pattern "squeezes" the radial potential gradient coming off the conductor as the dielectric thickness increases. The smooth slope and evenly space local maxima of a sinusoidal pattern increases the axial distance between points as the potential gradient increases as well (c.f. a step fuction shape which would have two sharp corners at each local maximum which are not optimally spaced from the next local maximum). The points with more potential energy are further apart and have the most protection due to design and simple geometries! This reduces material costs and can aid in design of directed dielectric breakdown.
@hardrays
@hardrays 3 ай бұрын
your comment convinces me that youre qualified to direct dielectric breakdown.
@ABaumstumpf
@ABaumstumpf Жыл бұрын
Pretty sure he used the sleeving as extra protection and insulation. Protection as he is dealing with insane current-pulses here. The induced magnetic field is more than enough to move the cables and there it is a good idea to have more than the normal insulation to keep them apart (and keeping anything else away from them).
@thinklist
@thinklist Жыл бұрын
I tend to agree
@markgohl2660
@markgohl2660 9 ай бұрын
I think the ribbing is on the underside of a high voltage insulator is to increase the distance a surface current would have to travel to escape and also to function as a drip point for any rain
@Dutch3DMaster
@Dutch3DMaster 6 ай бұрын
The ridges are indeed for increasing the distance, and to stop the possibility of dirt being capable of providing a route over which an arc can travel easier. My dad always explained it to me when I was a child like this: "Voltage like short routes, it doesn't want to "hop" from point to point, so all those discs and their ribs make it much more difficult for voltage to jump from point to point."
@ianlainchbury
@ianlainchbury 8 ай бұрын
Miss Photonicinduction. His videos were absolutely epic.
@davidwallis4567
@davidwallis4567 8 ай бұрын
The undulating design of the insulators is to increase the creepage distance across the surface of the insulator for the given distance between the conductors. E.g. if you have a distance X between the conductors by castlating the insulator you can make the surface distance across the insulator 5X. The reason why this matters is because the electrical energy will track across the insulator surface much easier than if it was free space between the conductor. A longer path across the insulator surface gives a larger insulation voltage between the two conductors.
@chilledoutpaul
@chilledoutpaul Жыл бұрын
Hi I have been watching Phototonic for years, he is such a great Guy, His name is Andy and he lives in the Dartford area, he has not done very much the last few years, i have a good idea why but its none of my business. Anyway i hope things are sorting things out. even BigClive says he is ok but working hard and getting on with life!
@MilanKarakas
@MilanKarakas 10 ай бұрын
For more fun, he should to use at least double the capacitance, or charging voltage. Yet, still impressive. Subbed!
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