what’s your favorite element…

I’m just tired of the “I’m disappointing my family” plot

Pixar has slowly gotten worse and worse, and I genuinely feel its because Disney wants them to force out a new movie as quickly as possible. they dont care about the quality, they care about the cash. its just so sad to see a great company go downhill like this.

the best thing about elemental was the art design and creative direction. it almost felt as if they completely finished all the art for the movie and then went “wait we forgot to write a story with compelling characters” and then wrote a story for the art

Disney has been positioning Pixar to be the “Look what our tech can do” animation studio for them compared to their “safer” titles. Despite these newer movies looking great, they definitely FEEL more like Disney catalogue filler than actual films.

It’s so sad to see such a once original studio be forced to become more and more like it’s parent company to the point where you can barely tell them apart.

I fell like Elemental would've been much better as a short film. Like if this was the short film before the actual movie I was prepared to watch, it would be much more enjoyable

"what if [INSERT RANDOM WORD HERE] was Los Angeles?" -Every disney movie in the last 10 years

Honestly I wasn’t excited for this movie at first, but when it came out I decided to give it a shot, and I actually thought it was very sweet and fun, and I actually kind of love this movie.

I'm the odd one out. I really liked this story & the character designs. Wade being a tight-wad about the tickets, makes sense to me, it shows that love can work between people of different backgrounds but doesn't magically fix structural-racism. Wade is from a privlaged race/class, while Ember is from a disenfranchised group. The fact Wade, although with pure intentions, didn't just magically understand her or her peoples plight, like her father having "not to code" piping, is becasue the city never was truly built for Fire-people in the first place--- unlike the other Elements. That adds depth to this film to me. Wade from the jump is interested in Ember, but that doesn't mean he's gonna be able to understand her or her people's history at all, or not quickly at least. Side note: Wade said he tasted gasoline or motor-oil in the areas where the damn was leaking. Was someone breaking the damn on purpose, trying to destroy the Fire community, a hate-crime? And this movie works well, if like Zootopia you understand, that these worlds/characters aren't any one-on-one representations of any specific real-world marginalized groups. Cool original movie. It deserves much better.

The marketing for this movie felt like actual sabotage

Surprised you didn’t mention the immigrant theme and aspects of it considering it’s huge to the story

Pixar hasn’t been on their prime in a very long time. Their last best movie is Soul. They’ve been loosing a lot of their magic lately

The way I see it, it's Disney prioritizing familiarity as a brand above all else - Easy to recognize, easy to sell. Not only in Pixar, but MCU feels like just a shell of itself. Stories and characters reduced to tropes and clichés. Even Disney itself are doing it; going with their live-action remakes.

Honestly, I'm supporting this just for the fact that Joe Pera is in this movie. We need Joe Pera to be in more things because he is Mr. Rogers for grownups and I love him so much.

Good point about blobs being hard to get emotionally attached to. I think it's why Casper movies always anchor their stories around humans. Even Osmosis Jones came off more corporeal than Elemental's main characters.

remember that Simpsons joke about Dreamworks "Cards"? they predicted this movie like 20 years earlier

The movie was ok. But yes, coming out RIGHT AFTER SPIDERVERSE made me think, "I coulda watched Spiderverse another time". Which is never good for a movie Wade is a bit jarring for me cuz he is kinda sh*tty/negligent or inept and the movie wants us to like him as if he doesn't do annoying things that trouble the mc. I definitely loved Ember and Firetown a lot more. Maybe a story staying there woulda been more fun?

The worldbuilding is kind of bad in my opinion. they have Cars, trains, and ships in a city of LIVING ELEMENTS. Who made the metal? What about the sidewalk, or the atmosphere, or the water??? It's not like Avatar the Last Airbender, where the culture and city design were specifically shaped around the use of bending. Here, it feels like a human civilization but the humans were suddenly replaced with talking elements.

I didn't see the movie but it always felt so aggressively mid from the marketing like. "What if typical cliche romcom romance . . . . BUT FIRE AND WATER???" Like . . . it's the type of thing you would think is a parody of Pixar, not the genuine article.

Elemental wasn’t a bad movie and I could understand why people would enjoy it and why others wouldn’t. Too bad it was advertised poorly and a lot of people judge it at first value because if this was released around years ago before the pandemic started it would have much more well received critically and financially.

I get that most of us aren't even the target audience, but like... come on. I'd be lying if I said this movie wasn't going to flop, especially since it's so predictable. The plot structure and character development is so obvious you don't even have to watch the first half of the trailer to figure it out.

I'm now just realizing that we don't see many animated rom-coms that aren't fairytale movies (Disney Animation, the Shrek franchise, etc)

I find it interesting your point about Ember being in love and how she shouldn’t be thinking about anything else. I actually really related to that scene because, as a child of immigrants, I could relate to having my family in the foreground of my thoughts even during very personal moments. A lot of issues I’ve seen people have seem to come from a place of not relating to the immigrant story, which is completely fair. And that’s on top of the dialogue, animation, and writing problems. It’s not a phenomenal movie, but there seems to be a disconnect with some viewers that I didn’t have.

Honestly it was a great movie especially if you can relate with the whole parent and immigration thing. Loved the animation, music etc. not sure why it did bad imo. I do recommend

you know what else is kinda bad? the fact that you haven't watched a 1997 cult film classic "romy and michelle's high school reunion" at this point

This movie kinda just felt like Pixar had the idea of elementals coexisting and what kind of silly whacky scenarios they could make out of that, then tacked a generic wholesome message onto it

I'm glad you give Turning Red and Luca their props as amazing films. Every other person I've seen calling Pixar bad nowadays dismisses those two as "cash grabs" when they're made with love and have incredible writing

Maybe it's because I've spent the past 30+ years playing videogames, but from the very first TEASER trailer they showed, I was underwhelmed by the effects/character designs. Just so plain and boring, especially when they go for the photorealistic bits. Also: I can't believe the old meme of "How to make a Pixar movie" came true ("what if _________ had feelings")

A big problem with Elemental's art style is it's gotten more and more into the "beanmouth" art style we saw in Luca and Turning Red. That's why everyone looks like a blob; it's all rounded edges, noodle appendages and basic body shapes. Also I find the worldbuilding very confusing. How was Element City created? Only the Earth elementals are tangible, everyone else is intangible. You should not be able to grasp solid matter when you are living fire, water or air/clouds. Why do the characters wear clothes when they have nothing to cover up? They have no skin or nerves so they should not be able to feel pain. See? It raises too many questions the movie is not going to answer; Because it can't.

I’m getting tired of people ignoring the massive decline Pixar has been on for a LONG time. Everyone says it without even realizing it. A bad movie by Pixar will be reviewed as “not Pixar’s best work, but it looked nice” when any other studio wouldn’t get away with it. They haven’t released a great, Pixar-tier movie since Soul, which is far too long ago. They’ve been riding off their nearly perfect reputation of industry changing movies for the last 5+ years. It’s like people just won’t talk about it because they’re so used to giving them the benefit of the doubt. It’s crazy to say, but Pixar may actually be the worst animation studio now. Whereas other 3D animated films are mostly “meh”, Pixar is responsible for recent movies that are blatantly bad. Crazy world we live in.

Hay this is just my opinion and anyone is allowed to disagree. I really enjoyed Elemental and it was so relatable to my mother and I. My mom cried a lot during the film because she went through a similar situation as Embers dad. This film was really special to me. I was able to personally connect to it.

Pixar is now the example of “having neat looking effects won’t carry the movie alone”. They might have good Loki g animation, but is that really the best people can remark on for Disney animated movies? They’re just allowed to get away with uninteresting and cliche stories with bland and predictable characters as long as the textures look realistic and the settings are grand and huge.

I like Carl’s Date personally because it was Ed Asner’s final role. And I appreciate Bob Peterson’s intention to dedicate it to Asner.

i thought the movie was okay, but i do agree with having a slightly harder time connecting with the characters, and the balancing of the family drama + romance left the film feeling rushed and unsatisfying by the end. that scene you talk about with ember suddenly thinking about her dad is the one i go back to when i think about the pacing. it was just jarringly quick how she switched up on it, i feel like the scene of them touching just needed more time to breathe. ember getting frustrated with herself for her flaws and being a 'bad daughter' was really touching though. i dont hate generational trauma storylines!

This was actually one of my favorites. Probably cause I never watch romances, but the acting, art and story were almost perfect.

Yeah it looked bad from the trailers. Don’t think anyone had high expectations judging from what was shown, and if they did that’s on them.

Feels like Disney/Pixar has two modes these days: A. What if *blank* had feelings/was racist or B. My parents had rules and boundaries and that is LITERALLY SYSTEMIC ABUSE

Karsten and Schaf reviews in an hour? Word

The animation for the fire people reminds me of Howl’s Moving Castle and Calcifer which is really nice

I actually really loved the film. I still think that there's a lot of flaws that this film has, but I still ended up rating it 5 stars on letterboxd because I was able to connect with it as the child of Asian immigrants. To me, Elemental isn't about the romance between Wade and Ember. Elemental is about Ember and her relationship to her family and to her culture. The scene you thought was jarring, with Ember lashing out at Wade, had me in tears because it was almost verbatim something I shouted at a friend over ten years ago about why they'll never understand why I couldn't stand up to my parents back then. Wade and his growing relationship with Ember is just a catalyst for her to grow. He's her manic pixie dream guy. He's the catalyst for her to connect with other people and face the truths about herself that she keeps hidden away. So yeah, the blobby designs are hit or miss, the pacing may be messy, and some characters can be cut out of the film entirely and change nothing, but ultimately, Elemental is an immigrant story that really did have me being the only person crying in the theatre. It was hard to watch this film and not think about all the things my parents did and all they gave up to come over here. The way it was all handled makes me 100% confident that a rewatch would elicit the same reaction out of me. I went into the film not expecting much, then becoming pleasantly surprised, but then completely and utterly overwhelmed when I saw how much Ember’s life matched my own. While I was never expected to take over a family shop, I was expected to excel in ways I don’t think me or my parents truly anticipated. While I have never fallen in love, I was transformed by the people I met and found a voice through them the same way Ember is changed by Wade and pushed to advocate for herself

Elemental has seen success in my country, Korea. it has become the most viewed Pixar movie ever released in Korea

It resonated with a lot of Asian Americans. This is made for them.

Okay I agree with everything you said about the movie itself, but I absolutely loved the Up short. Maybe it's because I work with older adults but it legitimately made me laugh out loud and cry all within a few minutes.

Thomas Newman can do no wrong! One of the greatest film composers of our time.

I mean wade is a self insert, he can’t look bad or have flaws and understand the entire situation with an open mind 😂😂

Dude, I'm so glad you mentioned the white-on-black helvetica title cards. I'm an assistant editor and sometimes I make something like that real quick, with the assumption that the title graphics people will come up with something cool. And sometimes things get rushed and they get don't get to it, and I'm like THAT'S what we're going with? My crappy temp thing?

I thought Elemental was okay. It’s not my most favorite but it was better than I thought

This is well explained. I remember going to see it in cinema and the movie felt as if it had gone on for days and in my opinion, most of the movie was just random dialogue or aliens scenes. I found it hard to sit through the movie and stay still and there were a few times I got so bored I just walked outside and stared at a wall and even that was more fascinating. But that’s probably just a me problem. Overall, in my opinion, elemental wasn’t the best. And as you said, Pixar has done some good movies for the past 2-ish years and I did have fairly high expectations for elemental too but after that,I think Pixar will only go downhill from there

Tbh, the last good Pixar movie I've ever watched was turning red While Lightyear, it just didn't fit toy story But Elemental brought back my joy of watching Pixar movies

Honestly, I really loved this movie. I loved the visuals, I loved the music, and I loved to story. I did feel attached to the characters and I felt the romantic connection. But, that might’ve been because I was probably the target audience. I really related with Ember and I really felt those emotions through the movie. For others, they might not have felt that chemistry but I most certainly did. I guess my only gripe was when Ember turned on Wade immediately- I’ve been where she was and I’d say it take a couple more reminders and feelings of guilt before running away from a relationship that you’re immensely passionate about. I am also a little iffy with Wade’s character introduction. I’m not one to shame someone for being emotional all the time but when he came in (I didn’t watch any of the trailers before watching), I thought he was a comedic side character who cries all the time. But as the story went on, I really liked him! He was sweet and his ability to over-feel his emotions mixed well with the closed off Ember. They’re literal opposites but they complete each other. But again, I think I really loved the movie because I saw a story similar to mine on the screen. It really touched my heart. I think the relatability of a movie like this is what makes it or breaks it. This movie isn’t for everyone and that’s okay.

Wade doing that jiggle dance with his belly for 2 seconds was by far the most entertaining thing about this movie

I actually really enjoyed this movie, but probably because my expectations were so low. It's not the greatest movie ever, but I enjoyed myself. However, and don't hang me for this, I didn't enjoy Past Lives. It's not that I didn't get it, it was just lacking in too many areas for me. I wanted more. I can't really see why everyone is so in love with it, even after they explained it to me.

Damn... Is it bad? I thought it would be decent, i was gonna plan to be the first Pixar movie i would see at cinema in decades. Well i was gonna see Across the Spiderverse first so whatever

Right before watching Toy Story 4 is the last time Pixar genuinely excited. And then I turned on Toy Story 4. That’s when it started. Pixar’s transformation into a studio I could devote my entire life to, to a studio I care less about than Illuminations. I don’t even wanna see a Pixar revival at this point

I gotta be honest. I really hope they decide to make some kind of Disney Channel spin off or sequel series to this. I just saw this movie, and while recent Pixar movies have been okay to me, I have not had this much love for a Pixar story since the golden years of Toy Story 2, Monsters Inc, and Finding Nemo. I'm not even joking. I truly view this movie in the same light as those movies. You'd be surprised at how much I'm a sucker for animated love stories, which are my favorite kind of animated movies, and while what they did in this movie is cliche, it felt like something you'd never expect from a Pixar film. I've never really seen them handle romance in a similar fashion as the main Disney studio does with their movies, but wow, did the romance in this movie blow me away to the point i would really love to see a continuation of the story to see they're relationship grow. They could even set the series within the months before they even have to leave Element City, but after seeing this movie I would just love to see these characters again.

It’s strange to me how I have a good amount of problems with elemental, but yet after I left the theatre it felt (as best as I could describe) “refreshing”. I haven’t seen a movie with this type of typical story that we’ve seen over 100 times In a while. It sound stupid as hell now that I’m typing it, but I guess that’s what I felt. I don’t know why Pixar has been making a lot of “safe” movies lately. Turing red, light year, onward, and now elemental. All of those movies felt very safe moving too make with no real “real” message that they wanted to discuss. Ill still keep supporting them so that can keep producing orignal content. Overall I’ll rate elemental a 6/10. Still an average movie from Pixar yet again, but this one feels like there some heart behind it. Even though the story was extremely generic.

Water? I hardly know her.

It was too derivative of "Zootopia". It continues to use the same story premise that so many other Disney animated films have. It rehashes the familiar premise of a male or female protagonist going against family or community expectations by not confirming to them but instead rebelling against them and branching out to be their own person by reaching their own goals and desires. In other words you don't have to be a slave to conformity. Things can change and you can be your own person. We see this over and over again in films like "Coco" "Moana" "Red" "Mulan" and so on and it is definitely repeated here.

I feel like this is a rip on Studio Ghibli... The baby fire acts much like Calcifer from Howls Moving Castle and the green plant on the train acts and behaves like the giant Totoro. Maybe it's meant as a homage to Ghibli but this being corporate it feels like their stealing ideas instead.

I feel like people try to diesect this movie too much. Not every movie needs to be a big masterpiece This movie made me smile and was genuinely fun to watch and felt like it had soul. I didn’t really care much about the relationship between wade and ember but rather the relationship between the dad and ember

I actually really enjoyed this movie. I don't think there's anything inherently wrong with a serviceable story. I had alot of fun while watching it, and that's really all that matters to me personally. I respect your opinion for disliking it, Im just finding it hard to understand, as it was just a simple story with stunning vissuals, played it pretty safe.

It was actually an awesome movie. I loved it. I respect people’s other opinions on this (except anything implying WoKe which has nothing to do with anything if you saw the movie).

When i saw the official title card for this movie (the thing that says Elemental in its own style) i KNEW this movie was gonna flop. The way Elemental is written is SO BORING. Theres NO personality to it. I mean they set themselves up with using the ELEMENTS and they couldnt think of a more creative way to present the TITLE of the movie?? Anway Disney has gotten lazy and its biting them in the ass

Bro I feel like this movie was made just to be hated on. Like the animation is good but in the world of Spider Verse not really. The themes are good if they hadn’t been done to death a million times already. The characters are good but the hot girl, dumb guy trope is so predictable and boring as hell. Like what does this movie even have going for it?

The fact the ending shows the fire neighborhood getting gentrified as a good thing was so messed up that I actually had a laughing fit.

Lightyear was the rock bottom of Pixar so im happy this was a step up

I actually really loved this movie. I didn’t know much about it going into it, my daughter wanted to see it. I was very surprised with how cute it is was. I liked how Ember and Wade worked things out as they went along. They realized that they liked being together and they made each other better even when they didn’t know if it was possible to be together. I think my favorite part was when Ember went to Wade’s family’s house to meet his family, which was basically a big swimming pool, and without say anything Wade found a way to get her through the house without letting her get wet, and without saying anything she bravely accepted his help, made it work and joined his family for dinner like it was no big deal.

By all means elemental is the most cliche rom com ever but it’s a Pixar rom com which as karsten mentioned is something they haven’t really done before! And it made me cry and I was really not expecting to be so Invested in this love story so yeah though it’s clearly not the best from Pixar, I enjoyed it.

i feel like elemental set out pretty cool in concept Visually but it felt very slept on ? i can certainly agree the world feels lived in but it feels very basic when the characters are all. Literally elements . it just feels like it was reallyyy not taken advantage of when the world could've LOOKED really cool all things considered! also the names are so. Hm. like element city is.....interesting...... but overall i think a lot of this movie felt simplified for lack of a better word? both visually and in the worldbuilding and in other aspects

Elemental came out on Disney+ yesterday and this morning I decided to watch it as I had been wanting to see it since many months ago and even though I like it, there’s still a lot of flaws

I watched the film yesterday with a cousin. Here's why it might not top my recommendation list unless you're seeking to burn away some time: On the plus side, aspects of the musical score, the intriguing world-building, and the artistic direction struck a chord, albeit not mind-blowing when compared to masterpieces like Across the Spider-Verse or other Pixar films. A highlight for me was the heartwarming relationship between Ember and her father. As an immigrant, I found that to be the most relatable of the film's themes, which echo the deep respect and gratitude we often feel towards our parents for their sacrifices. However, the film's other elements (no pun intended) left me wanting. The plot felt lackluster and even cringe-inducing at times. There were humorous snippets and bits of charm in some of the romantic scenes during the Second Act, but the Third Act and Climax of the love story had me face-palming in embarrassment. The film also failed to make me care for any of its characters deeply, apart from Ember's father and occasionally, Ember herself. The movie stumbles in its attempt to juggle numerous narrative threads within a limited runtime, resulting in a mediocre execution of all. It strains to generate a "West Side Story" vibe between Ember and Wade but falls short of igniting (ha!) any genuine interest in their relationship. Wade, as a lead character, was uninspired, reduced to a monotonous figure whose most defining feature was a worn-out trope-his tendency to cry as he was made of water. His redeeming moments were far and few, notably when he discussed his complex relationship with his father and during his sincere confrontation with Ember regarding her fears. Simultaneously, the film broaches the subject of the expectations thrust upon immigrant children by their well-intentioned parents and the potential clash with their personal desires. This could have been a compelling message if supported by tangible conflict. The sole reason Ember feels torn between her father's aspirations and her own is due to her reluctance to communicate her desires until the film's climax-this felt so unbelievably dumb to me. I would have been more engaged if Ember had an earnest dialogue with her father from the very beginning, justifying her ambitions as equally valuable and honoring her cultural roots. There'd be a genuine conflict then, which would have moved the story in a far better way to get the viewer invested. If you've got hours to spare for light entertainment, particularly with family, Elementals may serve the purpose. Otherwise, I'd suggest waiting until it streams online if your interest is only lukewarm.

Damn i’m ngl I loved the short in the beginning. Dragged a little but by the end it got a tear out of me

I think this is one of the times I will wholeheartedly disagree with you. I watched Elemental & thought this was a return to form. I love that the story was simple. The romance may not have made sense, but the turmoil Ember had felt real.

Thank you for recommending past live! I watched it a couple days ago and it was the best, most heart-wrenching movie I’ve seen in a LONG while. If you haven’t seen it yet, DO IT!!

I thought this movie was good. I know that there's a lot of criticism about it being generic or same ol same ol, which, is true, but I don't think that is enough to call the entire movie bad. Especially since the target audience was for young people and children, I was not expecting something very unique or complex. I like how they gave all the elements their own kind of culture and 'place', and my goodness the animation was beautiful. Also, coming from someone who's almost as emotional as Wade, I thought Ember and Wade's relationship was adorable. 😅 I will say though that Pixar is getting more and more like Disney, but honestly, I kinda saw it coming, though it doesn't make it any less dissapointing. :/

First time I've looked up the opposite opinion for this movie and to just stop by and say everyone that agrees, is wrong. 😊

You said “let’s not get all red in the face” when you should’ve said “let’s not get fired up about this..” get it… fired up?!!

The first Pixar movie that feels like it was written by ChatGPT.

4:30 As a guy experienced with romcoms, that's an old technique used in the genre to extend the drama, get your main romantic partner have cold feet out of the blue (ironically was Ember), and being used to it I wouldn't have minded but it literally cut short something more compelling, them looking for a way to bridge their differences, and it was kinda thrown to the side by focusing on Ember's family issues and an uninspired second climax.

It just lacked that Pixar heart ❤️

It was a fun movie to watch with my family. The hate and bad rep it's getting is over-rated.

Still checking daily for that Succession season 4 video!

I will see this when I get a discount for the theather

This movie is Zootopia.

The movie was good. I liked it and if I can make a movie, then I'll have room to complain.

I thought based on the poster that the animation would be horrendous, but it honestly has a pretty cool look. What sucks though is there is too much going on for you to even appreciate the individual styles for each element type. It's nauseating to look at. Watching the trailer I actually thought maybe the romance would be the best part because of that rom/com vibe and also because they each has such soothing voices, rooting for them!

I have little interest in the movie, but I've enjoyed the Schaffrillas and Karsten double bill today!

I honestly think a bunch of love and care was put into this movie, especially after watching all the extras the moment they released. I've watched this movie 27 times the past 12 days, and honestly I think this movie is great, we obviously don't have the same opinion but to agree to disagree I'll say that you do raise some good points but I do feel you were a bit nitpicky and a lot of what you said rubbed off of me the wrong way.

ive heard a lot of interesting reactions, ranging from "well its better than I expected, but not great", to "its cute. Not Pixar's best, obviously, but cute", I havnt actually heard a negative review yet so this should be interesting. 4:45 I heard about the third act misunderstanding trope. Sounds like it wasnt really necessary for this movie, or at least, wasnt done that well. 6:46 "felt like a waste of time", I dont think there's really a worse thing a film can be. A really bad film can be terrible in every way, but wont feel like a waste of time just because its so laughably bad. But this, slots right in the middle, isnt good enough to feel like a meaningful experience, not bad enough to either.

It is one of my favourite PIXAR films. The music score is more background on a television but on my Honor Pad 8 with its 8 speakers the sound was enhanced. I ended up watching the whole film on that and right tbrough the end credits. I thought it was humourous and sentimental. It is beautiful and emotional.

What I did appreciate about this movie was its obvious connection to the experience of immigration. I could feel the sentiment and emotion behind the writing. Even if the writing itself was mediocre, I felt like it was coming straight from the heart of someone.

I like the new profile picture

Oh well...LET'S GO BARBIE GANG!

Pixar needs to shift its focus back to story, because their animation will always look great. The last Pixar movie I enjoyed was Soul and that’s mostly because it felt like a unique & compelling film. I’m hoping the 2nd Inside Out can build upon the interesting premise of the first one and get Pixar back on track.

It really feels like SZA dropping when you post 😂😂 but fr everything you opened with is synonymous with a lot of us watching! You’re so appreciated and how you still pop up to keep things going is admirable. ❤❤

I didn’t except him to give it a 5/5 but it guess that’s just his opinion🤷

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From the very first trailers this movie felt just completely played out to me… Pixar has been doing the “like our world but not quite the same” thing for so long now that they seem to be running out of ideas for how to spin it. A good example is monsters inc. Think about how creative and fun that idea is! The world of monsters who live in kids closets and harvest scream energy to power a weird city monster metropolis, all of the unique ways they take advantage of that concept. Vs now. We’re getting movies like elemental and onward. Movies that try this same exact formula after it’s been done again and again by Pixar (and Disney.) By this point the formula is just hollow

I would love to see a behind the scenes of how they did the characters, it was a meh story but the execution was okay, the relationship with Ember and Wade is really good and you can see the feelings grow. Overall I enjoyed the movie, not the best from Pixar, but not the worst. I hate how Pixar has been treated by Disney the last few years, and the marketing for this movie sucked.