Lecture by Dr. Gregory Aldrete, Frankenthal Professor of History and Humanistic Studies at University of Wisconsin-Green Bay on February 3, 2016. For more information, please visit college.emory.edu/home/academi....
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@MyRealName1484 жыл бұрын
He’s so persuasive, I didnt have to hear a thing he said, but I’m sold...
@randomthoughtsproductions4 жыл бұрын
🤣 Audio sucks...
@inifin85 жыл бұрын
Another, very important point in oratory : volume and audio system both of which is missing in this piece 😂
@badtexasbill52614 жыл бұрын
Zing!
@oldpublickcoffeeroasters89753 жыл бұрын
Did you watch longer than 30 seconds? I had no trouble hearing him.
@1oxyoke3 жыл бұрын
@@oldpublickcoffeeroasters8975 You are delusional for disputing something that is without question. The sound was horrible.
@artemt1987ify3 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@pillbilly87612 жыл бұрын
@@1oxyoke your hearing is horrible
@ozag28 жыл бұрын
A wonderfully clear, entertaining and illuminative presentation to Cicero"s strategies of persuasive and successful oration. Bravo!!!
@grahammiddleton745 жыл бұрын
The volume needs boosting on the audio
@seabrain12123 жыл бұрын
Ironic that we are gifted with such an insightful lecture that we are rendered unable to hear. I feel the pain of every scribe who could not read the handwriting of a source needed for the publication of a paper which, should the source have been decipherable, been worthy of study for centuries.
@LeonardWaks Жыл бұрын
I used an app to turn up the volume. No problem.
@pauls70562 жыл бұрын
I've seen this video so many times and every time I watch it I learn something new. Dr Aldrete is a born communicator and effortlessly leads the audience through this fascinating topic. Thank you for posting, Emory University.
@BlackBitsBananas3 жыл бұрын
Man I feel bad for people with a bad speaker. Excellent lecture, I guess I cannot expect you to to be good at everything. Just hook up some speakers it’s worth listening to.
@ABC_DEF2 жыл бұрын
4:24. "He even collected the letters that he wrote to other people, family and friends, and assembled these into books and published those." This is a really bad mistake. Cicero's letters were assembled into books and published only after his death. The letters to Atticus were not published until 100 years later.
@fraternitas51173 жыл бұрын
the speaker needs to show more chest hair, just to prove his point.
@hoodiehat71262 жыл бұрын
Nah that black goatee with the reverse fade iced his points.
@ttacking_you3 ай бұрын
He seems to be precluding the crucial gold medallion adornment?
@kangakid59846 жыл бұрын
That was brilliant. Truth is what can be argued for some but does this reflect virtue ? Imagine if Cicero and Machiavelli got together. Wow, it is possible to identify these strategies with our politicians. This is mind blowing. Thank you so much I really enjoy listening to your presentations.
@victoriacrain71463 жыл бұрын
This was fabulous. Thank you. Studying Cicero with my kids.
@karenhodges75453 жыл бұрын
That was fun and informative. Thanks
@tehufn2 ай бұрын
This is very strange and very different than what I read in his texts and studied in my time... Cicero famously defined rhetoric as "a good person speaking well." The "good person" part means he claimed that the rhetoric by definition was concerned with ethics. In that light, this is a fascinating speech for me. I wonder, now, about the actual history of his speeches and how they contrast with his writing.
@speedlink9108 жыл бұрын
wow this amazing and very well put together. Everything necessary and totally hitting the spot. thank you very much !
@ryanmay30227 жыл бұрын
dude, sound sucks on this video
@carlmarl65313 жыл бұрын
@@ryanmay3022 No it doesn't.
@sakunamanussa98763 жыл бұрын
excellent lecture
@matchedimpedance7 жыл бұрын
Great lecture. Thank you. I wonder, did Cicero ever write anything in which he addressed the question of whether it is ethical to use false statements for rhetorical purposes? Did he ever defend that the ends were justified by those means?
@aoeu2565 жыл бұрын
Its called "Realism".
@volimNestea5 жыл бұрын
Don't know if he actually did, but I think he would have justified it as ethical because what he hoped to accomplish with it was supposedly a just cause, like his favorite "saving the republic". Though, coming from him, I wouldn't buy it for a second. We're talking about the guy who falsely accused someone of a conspiracy and had them executed without trial just so he could brag for the rest of his life about how he "saved the republic".
@shaunkerr87212 жыл бұрын
I know that he regularly appealed to Pathos to win court cases, esp. nationalism instead of leaning on Logos.
@susanmcdonald68798 жыл бұрын
thank you Dr. Aldrete, I have your Great Course, "History of the Ancient World: A Global Perspective", we need History more than ever : we tend to think that with our technological & informational skills & access, that we are somehow smarter than the ancients..... don't think so...
@BlueBaron33393 жыл бұрын
Pity about the audio. Greg's lecture is much better viewed on The Great Courses Plus. Problem there is their parser. You can use the word, phallus, in a review but clitoris is flagged as profanity 😅 😂 🤣 Greg, however, is simply outstanding!
@nivagcomicsreviews70743 жыл бұрын
The Robert Harris Cicero books were great
@caffeineandphilosophy8 жыл бұрын
And on the skill of defamation, the presenter demonstrates a final point, in addition to insinuation and guilt by association, which Cicero himself was not credited with: understatement. Well played.
@trojanthedog Жыл бұрын
All that will remain of us is what is written down.
@ttacking_you3 ай бұрын
The "resolution" to the dialectic he outlined at the end is a matter of basic taxonomy. One merely has to extrapolate into further strata of existence. Thus, _ontologically_ the superordination of ethics over results is essential. But _Teleologically_ the results _speak for themselves_
@ttacking_you3 ай бұрын
I incorporated that bromide to provide my exposition of conceit with a healthy apportionment of jocularity so as not to appear to be pedantic.🧐
@ttacking_you3 ай бұрын
And preemptively stifle any corollary accusations of overly grandiloquent logorrhea
@ttacking_you3 ай бұрын
Not quite "provide my exposition" but substantiate pre existing perceived jocular subtext, rather
@pasquino07335 жыл бұрын
Volumes too quiet on this
@michaelhebert73387 жыл бұрын
Well done thanks for sharing
@manishaweeraddana54525 жыл бұрын
Perfection !
@mutinyonthekitkat7 жыл бұрын
34:10 I saw Obi Wan Kenobi use this very technique in the first Star Wars film.
@Michaelatkins155 жыл бұрын
mutinyonthekitkat such an underrated comment; you made me laugh for a sec lol.
@kerebaka Жыл бұрын
If the gloves don’t fit, you must acquit!
@chopsonyou20076 жыл бұрын
He’s Hopping around like Rodney Dangerfield
@myvibe38932 жыл бұрын
Cicero was a Professional Academic Elitist Bureaucrat who’s skills included making bad decisions, and giving magnificently delivered speeches. Despite being a Lawyer, he had little ethics and was morally incompetent. These characteristics more than likely sealed his fate . He created “Today’s Group Think”. He never admitted fault. He believed he was exempt from serious repercussions, but in Cicero’s case, Death by Assassination, was his fate. Thanks for your talk Emory University.
@hhhbgg982 Жыл бұрын
well to summarize all of this. is to have a charismatic tic sociopath character
@babyforestwhitaker71143 ай бұрын
So Cicero basically invented all the logical fallacies that get used in politics today
@planetvegan78433 жыл бұрын
Cant hear.
@Satvik_Biradar3 жыл бұрын
15:18
@lukang723 жыл бұрын
Cicero seems like the Al Sharpton of his day.
@shaunkerr87212 жыл бұрын
Cicero's idea of appealing to Pathos is what is missing in bridging the gap of climate change deniers and the anti vaxx crowd. We are appealing to Logos for the mob too much these days. We need a classical Greek Sophist style communication to win the masses over.
Mild surprise a reaction to gasping :O you’re closing the mouth
@FERNANDOPENAS7 жыл бұрын
Cadeline was probably... what the f... this dude is lying..
@chrisgray73206 жыл бұрын
So Cicero was a typical lawyer then, results over truth, but claim to be honourable.
@volimNestea5 жыл бұрын
Just like every successful politician ever.
@DarthRaven90005 жыл бұрын
This is completely wrong. You have clearly not read any accounts of his life or his philosophical works.
@Whoami6913 жыл бұрын
He was an amazing politician and statesman. While the entire roman republic was crumbling he was the only one fighting to hold it together. In the end he was killed for his conviction.
@henriomoeje87412 жыл бұрын
Hitler must have studied the classics. Very demonstrative when speaking, whipping this Nazis into a frenzy.
@Oscuros3 жыл бұрын
"Humanistic Studies", because humanities is tough to spell for Americans. You guys can never call a spade a spade, can you. You always have to call it something different, like a shovel instead, even though a shovel is for picking up cinders from the ground, not for digging holes like a spade, and anyway, you call it calling a cigar a cigar there for no reason.
@Ourdirtytwo Жыл бұрын
no audio
@oasissands85843 жыл бұрын
Sleepy Joe Biden
@jrb493510 ай бұрын
The first secret of persuasive oratory is to make sure that people can actually hear you.
@EricTitterud3 жыл бұрын
This is literally trumps playbook
@frankm32146 жыл бұрын
This is the level of scholarship we've sunk to. Does everyone have to grind their axe?
@badtexasbill52614 жыл бұрын
I need you to fix your collar.
@carlmarl65313 жыл бұрын
Afraid of some chest?
@wdgz562 жыл бұрын
Someone needs a pink slip
@fourtoes4122 жыл бұрын
The irony of this video - barely audible!
@isabellavernes91162 жыл бұрын
Oh no. Plump Trump must be a descendent.
@tanyapapoutsakis52134 жыл бұрын
To Gregory Jones. Hi Greg, it is pronounced Chichero, like ch for chocolate both times, the first Ci and second ci. The best thing to pronounce something right, ask a person who speaks the language, as in Italian as is the case. I wish ALL young persons ask, especially where foreign language pronunciation is concerned. Regards Tanya.
@atticus35324 жыл бұрын
We say the same thing about 'Aluminum' but it's an endless complaint
@badtexasbill52614 жыл бұрын
We can't possibly go through every word that has been anglicized and trace it back to demand the original pronunciation. As you know, the evolution of language has many stops along the way which are legitimate for the time and place. Cicero as "kickero" is one example. Cheers!
@peterenestrom4 жыл бұрын
Very relevant in the Trump era
@ttacking_you3 ай бұрын
Cicero sounds like a a more cynical and mendacious version of Demosthenes. Chronologically, how far apart were they? Because that would have bewn a debate for the ages
@SammyCee237 жыл бұрын
I didn't know many believed Cicero was the greatest orator of the all time...
5 жыл бұрын
The Roman Republic died due to a cancer called 'Oligarchy'. Today we would call it corporatism.
@DrE25557 жыл бұрын
This has Trump written all over
@gasjuice3907 жыл бұрын
Hello Eduardo
@aoeu2565 жыл бұрын
To make our system immune to Cicero's emotional populism local governments may be voted on, but governors are selected in a merotratic way (who has the best results), and then the president is the best governor. This is sort of what China is doing, but we need to do in a way that is less top-down.
@tiarnan765 жыл бұрын
as opposed to when Barack Hussein Obama used to shed crocodile tears after shootings? Dickhead...
@jbweld61935 жыл бұрын
@@tiarnan76 ding ding ding!! Winner! That is exactly what the charlatan Obama did.
@pandaprrr9955 жыл бұрын
Yes exactly
@CommercialMatchmakerLending6 жыл бұрын
Great insights! Thank you Sir. But I was distracted by the gestures that seemed random, the bouncing head and the open shirt with the hair on the torso showing.
@John-Adams6 жыл бұрын
He looks like Penn Gilette with AIDs
@ClearOutSamskaras2 жыл бұрын
NOBODIES GOT AIDS!
@ykim23372 жыл бұрын
Check out my episode 'Rhetoric & Snake Charmers ' YKim