Where ? Time stamp ?

I agree. But, I think it’s from an app.

@@karly4justice What?! I have to go and look at that again. My thoughts on NK are that she is demonic. CW said she was "into" some dark stuff! He wouldn't say what and that he would NEVER tell. I believe she was witch like, and when CW was at her place I believe an entity entered his body. Sounds weird I know, but that does happen. CW kept saying it was like someone else was controlling his thoughts and actions. I wonder what "gotcha ya" meant?!? What was the motivation I wonder?! So sad, at least they are at peace now and cannot be hurt anymore---God bless them

@@karly4justice Do you have a time stamp on NK saying that in the courtroom? I could not find it. thank you!!

F²😂😂

damn...

Yes it is that's really creepy it sends chill bumps all over me seeing that.

A message from someone to the police officer I think. I honestly think she was trying to tell him it was Chris. I know some people don't believe in stuff like that but I do.

I know, prophetic. It sure set Chris back!

Chris still wasn't sure if the cam caught him doing anything suspicious loading the truck. His blood pressure must've been off the charts.

And her red car is also seen pulling out in that video. She didn’t just have a gray truck. Look in the background of the neighbors security video and you’ll see it.

His body language was SO telling. That scene scared me the first time I saw it.

​@@pinup_charmer3348i remember watching it when it actually happened thinking...this guy did it! Then, for sure when he had that weird grin when they interviewed him on the front porch of his house saying "he just wanted them back "

Thank you so much neighbor awesome job thank God you had him on video.

​@@Killer.Queen74Nate and Nikole Atkins are the great heroes of this case , the very first ones who pointed out the suspicious Chris.

And said to him "daddy no" as he came at her. A living horror movie, God rest their beautiful souls.

I think you mean that he left her there to watch, it isn't as though she had a choice. Yes, beyond heartbreaking.

@@amandadoh2875 It really is, isn't it. Beyond imagination.

He already changed his story and said that he made that up, not what happened, when he was interviewed in prison he said that both the girls were killed in the house before his wife

@edenmoon8275: He said that he had tried to kill them, but that they had "woken up" again. The made different statements, so I have hard time believing anything that comes out of his mouth,

Right. Trying to deflect...

😂😂😂

Narsasstic people think they are all that and a bag of chips. Think they are so much smarter then everyone else. They believe their false narrative about themselves.

And who the heck chuckles while begging for their missing fam to come home safe?

😂😂👍

You need to see the full picture..It wasn't only due to Nichol. Shannon couldn't control her spending. Shannon was with Chris because she could CONTROL him. They had filed bankruptcy once and were already back in debt $70,000 not including the house. After a while ANY man will get tired of getting collection agency calls at work and home. That alone with seeing those pink envelopes marked "Past Due'' on the kitchen counter will take a toll on ANY man. Then she gets pregnant again knowing they can't afford what bills you already have. She was always posting videos on Facebook about the glorious fake happy life they were living. Shannon was addicted to impressing people. Just look at the videos of their home. She had a bed fit for a queen, closets full of designer clothes, so many shoes that she could have opened her own shoe store. When a man sees there is no way of getting her to control her spending habits he will start to fall out of love. Then Chris meets an average woman at work who CAN control her spending and doesn't live her life to impress others and is more like him. A person who can live a life without expensive things . That causes him to become attracted to her. I know this because I went through the exact same thing with my first wife. Only I was smart enough to just file for divorce.

The lies. The finances. The cheating.

His relationship with Nicole wasn't his only one. He dated quite a few even behind Nicole's back on Tinder.

​@@roxannemoser.m

​@@roxannemoserreally? They don't mention it anywhere

He was ok, Shanann's brother took him and he had a little doggy girlfriend to play with.

He's such a little cutie

I just wonder where he was during July while CW was doing NK every night

​@@eioinmclove oh thank you for telling us❤

That lady doesn't know her own dog 😢 he was literally showing on the dumpster

Michelle herself did it.

All very true. Chris was always play acting to my mind.

So true.. We all need to analise a bit of how we are in a relationship

Well said!

Great introspection to make necessary changes.

If your partner does not like your personality or relationship he or she can LEAVE. No need to murder anyone. I always tell to my husband if u do not want to live with me we can always just divorce

Ya think?very observant

@@2-pistols Everyone can't be as attentive as obliterated wampa's.

After the neighbor had gone through the video and found nothing out of the ordinary (red flag) except CW backing his truck up to the garage, it was time for him to let CW and the police officer see it. By the way according to the neighbor, CW NEVER backs his truck up to the garage!! Bigger red flag! Even if it is the FIRST time CW see´s the video, he does show little interest! If you look carefully, the neighbore is watching CW all the time. A innocent man would be GLUED to the screen desperatly seeking some kind of answer. He would not be concerned with anything around him. But that did not happen. CW is more concerned about explaining what HE is doing, and not so much anything else. Also, most of the time, he does NOT look at the video..... You do not get redder flag than that! The neighbor sensed that "faul play" must be the answer.

My favorite part is when the universe decided to a put a random ad of a fetal baby right in that moment. CW is like "oh yeah, she's pregnant too", an innocent man would have said that repeatedly by then.

@@ednajwolff timing is everything.

She Googled "can police recover deleted text messages" the fact that she wasn't thoroughly investigated as a suspect, actually seems insane to me; with all her suspicious behaviors

That interview makes my stomach hurt. She’s not that innocent and she’s bad at acting innocent. How embarrassing was that with some of the subjects that came up. It is hard to watch and hard to hear her voice. I just don’t like it.

Freemasonic father from what I read

Her dad has connections and they’re white. White Privilege in full display. She also asked Chris to send pics to prove he was on the job site that same morning. She KNEW what was gonna happen. No doubt about it.

Sure was

He wad a man without ANY courage. What piss poor excuse for a " man". Sick toddler boy

Unbelievable .The only place that she should have been safe 😢.

Definitely think Chris was down in the basement with NK and he heard her come in and ran upstairs. Shanann could probably tell he was hiding something down there and when she tried to find out he killed her. Who knows..

@shannonstarr7980, I agree, I also wanted to yell into my phone, "turn around, get the police, & get your children out of there" Sadly, poor Shannon might not have believed anyone who would've tried to warn her of how dangerous her husband was! She was pleading with this monster to stay, while he was planning this unbelievable horror of killing her & her children & throwing them away like garbage! Chris is evil personified!!!!

19:18

I know (I live at that beach). Also hearing her talk about how he was the best thing that ever happened to her...

Yes, indeed 💔💔💔💯💯💯🙏🙏🙏

What I don't get is how can someone who lives in a beautiful house with a beautiful wife 2 wonderful kids in a decent neighbourhood and a steady job with a decent income etc turn to murderer and expect to get away with it as if nothing has happened 🤔

@@sovietonion72 its quite simple actually....those " famous" thrive patches he slapped two at a time on his body are basically the equivalents to what is in crystal meth ! Only " natural " ingredients. But.....the outcome of how one feels on said " natural " vitamin ingredients gives the same psychosis when over used to ones brain chemistry. I HIGHLY recommend NO ONE uses these patches !

@@dianacummins6153 I was wondering about those things...I don't see many people mentioning them in their videos or comments until you. I'm surprised they are still in business after that mess!

Wow really I hadn't read that police let her have a free pass it seems..

Don't understand though how you can get a transcript of a call unless the call was taped?

@@Hannah-201 The doctor's office/clinic records all their calls

They're no way she wasn't stalking her on FB and Shanann shared everything.

Yeah, it was her idea. She told that "pennisless" to sneak it into shanann. She's a heartless monster. But watch, she's gonna fall for another just like she did him, preferably another married man and someone is gonna do to her what she did to shanann. God don't like ugly. She will pay for all the shit that she did to shanann through that worthless pos...

Yes

that is so true! I noticed his reaction towards them and anyone would have been thankful for them being there and concerned and instead, his looks towards them was more like bothered that they were there.......I wonder, did it ever occur Chris what was going to happen AFTER the murders? he didn't plan this murder correctly like he wanted because little did he know that Shannan's friend Nicole was going to pick her up the very next morning to take her to the doctors... and it didn't occur to him that the first one that was going to notice this was her friend!!!!! he is an idiot.

I’m so glad NA wasn’t alone with CW. I think he’d have killed her too.

Also the way he approached the cops like he was his buddy and why didn't the cop introduce himself and ask a few questions 🤔

@@zumbadiva99 He was already annoyed with her because she'd been on the phone with him at least twice before then asking questions and she kept setting off the alarm on the garage door (which notified to his phone). So yeah, he wasn't happy to see her. By the time he got to the house neither of them were hiding their feelings about the other. NA was *all over it* and he knew it.

He thinks he's not a danger to anyone else, until the next time he wants something and killing whoever is in his way to get it, blatant communal narcissist. Probably sociopathic.

Why are my comments be deleted?! Cowards! I speak truth! True JUSTICE, is letting her family get ahold of him and whoever else was involved in hurting her and her innocent children and unborn child, and letting them rip his ass apart! 😡

@@jaylee2170 your comment is irrelevant

Me too I’m obsessed.. and you just want more information..

He never will be free.

Yep sociopath

Lots of fathers aren’t loving in an affectionate way, that’s left to mom, doesn’t make them murderers tho

Yea…I don’t agree with that. He is a disgusting piece of scum and the fact that he didn’t attemp to take his own life once the enormity of what he did hit home…if it ever did/has. I think his interaction are typical for a father or mother loving their kids….in their daily interaction. I often wonder if that patch he wore that Shannan sells for weight loss and improving immunity, etc have some play in his annilating his wife and daughters. Not making excuses….there are none that could be made to warrant that.

@Pat, Good point!

when you are required to lock them in their dark bedrooms 2 hrs after daycare, then you don't bond and the girls don't learn language.

But they couldnt afford it due to her out of control spending

@@Blonde_Somnambulist so she , her unborn son, and two little girls deserved being murdered by the one they trusted most ?

​@@Blonde_Somnambulist😅😅😅😅😅😅😅 not CW...he doesnt do anything wrong though

I feel the same, I have watched everything as well, maybe trying to find a reason?? There simply is none! Shannan was an excellent communicator and certainly gave him endless opportunities to discuss, work shit out or not, Shannan was such a Mumma bear, she would have been hurt, but she would have flourished! Her gut knew….. If only he just walked away ! Blessings and love to her family and friends and neighbours! Australia 🇦🇺 xxx

@@lewisariki7193 i think he would. But then he would need to pay child support and visit the kids, and shannan would still be in his life and new missus absolutely did not want that. I strongly believe she was an accomplice and it was all her idea. Why on earth would he murder his own children? Like what did they ever do to him? All her idea.

And why did she Google "can police recover deleted text messages"? Yeah there's nothing suspicious about that....

Your spelling of "behaviour" indicates that you're not American. As an American myself I can guarantee you that the FBI gave serious thought to her having been involved in any criminal way.And yet she's never been charged. That tells me that it's highly unlikely that she deserves to be criminally charged.

I’ve been wondering why they didn’t look further into the several conflicting statements she gave to law enforcement. The “I deleted our messages” statement is also a bit suspicious. 🤔

@@kristisepulveda8030 Let's assume for a moment that you're a respectable,normal woman. You've just discovered that the wife and kids of the guy you've been dating have been murdered by him. You'd be a bit upset...hurt...angry! You know you had nothing to do with it...and you know nothing about how police investigations go...so deleting his texts would be entirely understandable.

You must be kidding...yourself... Her father is a retired FBI agent and that is why she wasn't looked into! You know darn well photos and texts can be found even when delated! All except hers it seems! Evidence shows she started her plan to catch this fool Chris and destroy a family 9 months before Chris even knew her! So oh yes she needs looking into because I think she is not only a ho...but part of their deaths...

The reason we forgive is Jesus forgives if we don't forgive we won't be forgiven.

We can only forgive when the person has serious regrets, shows shame for the deed, ask for forgiveness, changes behaviour, honestly answer all the questions about the crime.. And after some time, we can try to forgive but not forget. That's how I would do it if my son would have done such a horrible crime. Still loving him from a distance, from afar, in my heart... But it would take years to even consider forgiveness. And I would apologize for my son to the victims family.

a mom's job is to look after her kids, i can't blame her for sticking by him

Its mothers like this Who race children like this. Who dont know moral of what is wrong and what is right..his whole childhood he have been exused even with bad behauvior.....

His mother is a narcissist. She must forgive him otherwise she would have to admit that she might have done something wrong raising him and that's not possible for a narcissist. My mother is the same with my brother, he can do no wrong and if he ever does, it's everyone else's fault of course

I think that dog sensed out that he murdered their mother on that's babies bed. 😢😢😢😢

He is nothapy

Definitely lil guy was trying to tell them. If only they could've understood. I feel bad for the lil doggy. Such a sad case. The police dog definitely sensed it. Dieter saw it happen more then likely and was trying to let them kno when the cops was there that 1st day

Yes. That dog .they sd was Sensing for trauma..well the girls were smothered in their rooms the first time and Shan'ann in her bedroom..well the dog was trying to tell them that..the fact that they didn't catch on that is sad..cuz they CLD have asked him more questions...and the video why didn't they observe it more..

Thus comment need to go viral so very true

Now they are sayen that um nichole killed the baby girls .i cant i cry i just wanted to let u guys that about nichloe k

WHAT A BEAUTIFUL FRIEND GOD BLESS YOU 🙏RIP TO MOM AND HER SWEET LITTLE ANGLES🌹🌹🌹🌹🌷🌷🌷🌷🌹🌸🌹🌸🌹🌸🌹🌸🌹🌸🙏

That's what hurts the heart so much. Did not need to happen.

What gets me is the lack of emotion and crying while talking about them he didn’t love those girls either. Personally I think he absolutely hated his kids not just his wife

Yes that's what Chris expected

If my friends are freaking out because I haven't texted them in a few hours and coming by my house to investigate at 10am . I hope for their sake I'm actually dead.

My coworker and friend Charlene would call if I were an hour late for work!

​@@bryanlouro140I'm the same way. I don't need friends hovering over me.

@@katalynbabehe didn’t I dont know how he thought he would get away with it.. but I assume he thought he could go home still and work on it. I think he got her ring quickly, put it on the table when he got in. He forgot she had a dr appointment.. and he called daycare to tell them the kidswerent coming.

I noticed that, too. What a hypocrite, among other things.

Over and over

NK was an old maid when CW met her...

@@elizabethlacky6068 Well, he still fancied her ......

Why not? Where was evidence against him? No proof

@@Kareena1988what are you talking about?

@@jamm9202 no evidence of him murdering ...so..

He never knew what truly love was. Not even with NK, she was just a butt.

Yes I found that extremely weird. If he Googled what it feels like to be loved then he wasn't capable of giving love.

Holy fcckkk I have never noticed that before, that was Erie as hell. The love heart around the fetus then the skull explosion and oil. Yer dude that was fate/god giving signs in life (I'm not religious or overtly spiritual but the evidence is there)

Yessss❤ my heart sank! ALSO ....when the dog was walking by the red dumpsters ...notice the 🌻. God will make him see them EVERYWHERE. Evening n his cell

@AlyssaJaydeR: Coincidence.

@garyhost1830: Coincidence is not evidence. 🙄

Watch the whole ad.. it will creep u out even more

I agree!

Yesssssss omg the Wells case haunts me I do not understand. That poor baby girl needs someone to break her parents if you can call them that... And fast..

@Heather Elliott death threats?! Why?

@Heather Elliott hello from Sydney! 😸💚☮️😷😷😷😷🌹❤️

That would be awesome! I thought the same thing!

She deserves a Good Citizen award....she solved it immediately

Thats a true friend i applaud Nicole she is awesome

A few years have now passed and yet I still shake my head in wonder & disgust at how even the worst narcissist could do what he did. Many serial killers had families with kids and many profess if they had any regret, it was how their actions impacted their kids. Even the Iceman Kuklinski regretted how his mafia murders affected his kids. But Watts? NOTHING. There is NOTHING like regret or sadness. Maybe this is why we continue to watch videos and read about him. We are looking for some spec of humanity in a man that has none. As to the object of his obsession, I imagine she actually felt some sick kind of pride in knowing that he killed his family to be with her. I recently read a quote by someone who knew & worked with her (before Watts) and they said that she slept with many of the married guys she worked with. That is hearsay, but usually hearsay is based in fact.

@@pyrografix She strikes me to be as big of a piece of crap as he is. Some places you can still sue a person who interferes in your marriage like she did. I wish people would start sueing more often to stop some of the evil nonsense.

@@jenmailsouth4155 My ex cheated on me with a woman who had a head the size and shape of a basketball. She was stumpy, not bad looking, but not who you picture your husband screwing around with either. At that time, I was in the best physical shape of my life, 5'9" and honestly, I was quite pretty. I saw her and couldn't understand what it was she offered him that I didn't. I met her later at my one daughter's HS graduation party (yes, I invited her to be polite) and she got kind of drunk and felt it necessary to tell me how she and my then still husband were doing it in my bed while I was at the hospital with my then 7 yr old daughter. She delighted in telling me that and other disgusting and very hurtful things and she told me like we were old pals. I realized then that she was the kind of woman who felt superior to other women, particularly those that were married, when she was able to get their husband to go to bed with her. It was her way of dealing with jealousy for the life she didn't have but clearly wanted. She was too stupid to realize that most men don't really want to leave their families for the women they are cheating with...they want the best of both worlds but don't want to throw away a 'good life' in the process. She felt so good about herself because, not only was she the catalyst for destroying my marriage but she then lived with him for a few years. She was just DEVASTATED that he never married her and yeah, lol, he cheated on her too! Yes, I do still smile at that fact! My point is that there are women that are so lacking self confidence that they look for men that are already 'taken' and view them as conquests. They triumphed and stole the heart of a married man! In fact, they really only stole a cheating asshole and they never really get that burning hole of no self confidence filled either. I hope NK gets cheated on. I hope that she gets to feel just how horrible SW would have felt when she learned the truth because I can tell you from experience, it's literally like a knife in your heart. If any one tiny positive thing could be said in this it's that Shannan was at least spared the heartache of knowing that POS was cheating on her. I hope CW slowly rots away as a very VERY lonely, destroyed man. I hope NK never has a good relationship with any man because she sure the hell doesn't deserve one. Thanks for listening to my rant!

Nickole está ahora recibiendo quimioterapia por cáncer de mama 😢

He inherited psychopathy genetically from his mom. It's so obvious.

Both Nate & Nickole Atkinson solved this!

​@oolongteaforjoyluck17 please don't forget about SW bestie Cassie (whom at one time lived with SW in that same house) that actually called and texted NA to drive over and check on SW and the girls. Pure facts!!

If not for NA, Nate would have never been contacted for his video footage. NA is the true hero here

@@Emzzz78 True!

Right? In all of the family photos and videos he was attractive, but anything after the murders, he is ugly and soulless. Weird how he changed so much in such a short time.

I can't get over the women writing him and supporting him. The only thing I would ever write him is "my daddy is my hero" God I hate him

Some women believe that they are the "one " who can tame the devil and they welcome (and sometimes seek) the challenge. In other words..some chicks are dumb as a box of rocks.

I think there only attractive to him coz it's at a safe distance.

another narcissist psychopath like NK would most definitely be attracted to CW another narcissist psychopath

Could you have atleast kindly put the timestamp up with your essay of a comment? 😑 You come across as very uneducated and irresponsible.

Same 😢 I almost died myself seeing that ! Look when the dog is walking the streets by the red dumpsters...you will see a sunflower 🌻 SW favorite. She was signaling there also!

It also shows a skull in oil. One of the most eerie coincidences I've ever seen.

It was mentioned above

I saw that it was really heart breaking thanks to neighbour ang her best friend Cris wasn't able to ged rid all of Shannan mobile ang bag plus kids medicines.

I’ve said in other videos I’ve watched on this POS that he should be made to watch EVERY SINGLE VIDEO of his wife & beautiful angel girls from the time his eyes open until they close. Period. Until he is unalive…

@@ginashugarts3809 you are 100% right

I feel guilty watching these KZfaq videos bc I want the Ruzeck family to be at peace..Yet I just cannot fathom how this happened!!

I'm praying that jailhouse justice prevails..and I will not go into detail what that means..most people already know..

@@charsiu_808 everybody knows what that means. And he was already moved to another prison “for his safety”? REALLY!? Should’ve left him where he was

When was he alerting? I guess I don't really know what that looks like...

Is it just the barking?

The dog was looking at the dumpster that Chris put his clothes in. That dog handler should work for WAG.

I couldn’t beleive the old lady with Cody. She shouldn’t work out in the field.. Too old and dopey I’m sorry but that dog kept going to the fence barked sat down in front of her and the fence omg . Hope she got a talking too

@@chazzer4759 I saw this same woman dog handler on another murder video, she was the same on that one. The dog was “telling her” about a dumpster the other side of the street,all she did was yank him forward, She did it three/four times. The murderer had apparently discarded clothes in. She should be retired now. She’s far too old to be bothered to listen to her dog.

She's an opportunist... among other less than desirable titles.

@@StrawberryFields4ever65 she's fuckin gorgeous

So sad for everybody

If she wasnt involved in the murders and had no knowledge of them then she can't be held accountable. No one is responsible or in control of another person's actions. A person has choices and 100% of their own power, just like you do. They are 100% responsible for their own actions and choices, just like everyone else.The reason behind Chris own actions is still more to do with him than anyone else. We are responsible for our own behavior and others are responsible for theirs. Our actions are a choice, regardless of the provocation. When someone is cruel to us, it is often our first reaction to believe we've caused that, that it's about us. The truth is that other people's behavior is about them. Our behavior is about us. So much of what we do is a habit and this is really no different. Behavior is a choice we are making and we can choose to do something else. Even when we're talking about their behavior toward us or in the relationship. People make choices or react based on millions of pieces of information that they have stored up over the years, their beliefs, their thoughts, their experiences, their feelings. Very few of these pieces of information actually have anything to do with us and often they don't have anything to even do with what's going on in that moment or in this situation. it is one of the major reasons we are not responsible for the actions of other people: we don't have as much influence as we think we do. We all make choices for our own reasons and are therefore completely accountable for our own actions. People's behaviors are not caused by what others are doing or not doing. Nobodys is. People do what they do based on how they react to their own thoughts, feelings and belief's. That's why different people deal with the same situation differently. It's about how they feel about what's happening, not what's happening. If you go up to five different people and punch each one of them in the face, you're going to get five different reactions. How we react to things is a choice. Chris choose to kill them and the reason was because hundreds of millions of pieces of information he was using to make decisions all concluded that this was the thing to do. Sometimes people will say, "But if narcissists do have a disorder, if they are mentally ill, if there is a psychological dysfunction, if they were abused, etc. are they really responsible for their actions? Are they really responsible for their choices?" The answer is yes, they are. There are some people who are not responsible for their actions. People who are psychotic are not responsible for their actions because within that framework, it's not possible for them to make clear and reasonable choices. If they are hallucinating and believe that they've seen their neighbor trying to break in with a knife to kill them 50 times so they go shoot him, that's one thing. But someone who justifies behavior they know is wrong because it's easier for them to deal with does not fall in the category of people not responsible for their actions, and it doesn't matter why they are doing it. Whether someone is responsible for their actions is predicated on whether or not they are capable of understanding that their actions are wrong, and most narcissists are. They know it's wrong, they have a choice and they choose behavior they know is not OK because they can justify it. This doesn't make them not disordered, but a person can be disordered or mentally ill and still be responsible for their actions and choices. Mental illness or disorder is not an automatic disqualification from being responsible for your behavior. They had choices, They had power. They chose to do things - or not do things - that resulted in contributing to creating a toxic environment. Narcissists love to tell others they've failed them, because this means anything bad that happened was all the other person's responsibility. The person who failed the narcissist was the narcissist. They failed themselves and will continue to do so until they either realize they have responsibility for their own lives and take it, or until they die. Whichever comes first.

Means nothing at all. She was lied to by CW. Anyone would want to make money out of the story if they could so looking up Amber Frey was natural.

I think you've hit the nail right on the head!

If his parents and shannans parents were there he would have wiped them all out and stuffed them in tanks if he thought he'd get more sex.

Yes Chris's motivations for anythink are completely self focused. Narcissists view people as objects and as extensions of themselves. Because of this, they are unable to see people as separate beings from themselves with their own feelings, needs, wants and opinions. Prisons are full of narcissists. These are the people who feel they have the right to take things that don't belong to them, the right to assault others, the right to rape others, the right to kill others. They feel entitled to any- and everything they want just because they want it. Who else but a narcissist thinks that what they want is more important than someone's life? The dynamic of "want" and "need" is very confused in the mind of a narcissist. Everything they want, they think they need and if they need it, that means they are entitled to it. This means if you get in their way, you are denying them fulfillment of their needs. This is not an enviable place to be in, and it doesn't just involve material things. Narcissists also personalise the behaviour of others. Their ego is so dysfunctional and consuming that it creates the idea that everything is about them or to them or for them. They're not able to separate their experience or feelings from anything because of their inability to separate the self from external objects. It's all about how it affects them and if it affects them, they believe it must be for them, or because of them. The idea that people have their own feelings and their own motives that don't include them does not usually occur to pathologically narcissistic people. They simply assume that the motive for all things is themselves, whether it affects them directly or not. Ironically, for people who want control over so many things, they completely abdicate control over their behavior and their emotions to other people. Through personalizing the behavior of others, they achieve the justification they need to relinquish responsibility for their actions. They feel attacked continuously and justify their abuse as self-defense. As far as they are concerned, they bear no responsibility for how they are behaving because the other person has caused the whole thing. Their ego is wounded, they feel inadequate and imperfect and they believe that they must retaliate in order to protect their ego and ultimately, themselves. Of course, the bigger problem is that because of their inability to understand that not everything is related to them and because of their own projected self-hatred. The personality that has been arrested at a certain level of maturity and function, and is now stuck in a loop. If you are dealing with a pathologically narcissistic person, you are dealing with significant and severe dysfunction, and some have such significant, severe dysfunction that they qualify as clinically disordered. This is not something a person can just stop doing or stop having. It doesn't excuse their behavior or their choices in any way because they know right from wrong (even if they don't understand why something is considered wrong) lack of empathy, difficulty with impulse control, skewed perception and impairment regarding cognition causes them not to care but they know, but it does tell us that this is more than a case of someone choosing harmful, inconsiderate or inappropriate behaviors. The people we are referring to when we use the word "narcissists" have a pathological personality, which means they have pathological thought processes, mindsets, behaviors and pathological emotional dysregulation. They generally lack empathy, lack impulse control, lack self-worth and the ability to create or regulate self-worth; they usually have difficulty with object permanency, object constancy, and whole object relations, there is usually severe identity disturbance. Narcissist have arrested emotional develpment. They have serious affected perceptions, this means their perception is seen through the lense of emotion. They have malfunctioning schema in the brain. Because of these problems they are incapable of empathy and completely self focused to the point they don't see people as people. They believe feelings are facts. They have no identity. they have the emotional understanding, control and capability of a toddlers. They are angry, frightened miserable people - even the ones who don't seem to be- They are unable to understand or change the cause of their misery. They are unable to change their beliefs, even when clearly proven wrong. Reality that contradicts how they feel is ignored, denied or altered to fit. This level of narcissism is considered inflexible. This is a multi-faceted problem that affects every part of their lives, whether you can see it or not. It's not about not caring, because it's beyond not caring. It's not even on their radar because nothing is on their radar but themselves. There is no room in their lives for anyone else but them. What you think, what you want, what you like, what you care about, who you are as a person... none of this information even occurs to them and if it is pointed out, none of it matters except for how it applies to or benefits the narcissist. They have no real understanding that this is different from how anyone else operates and don't care because it doesn't matter. This is how they operate and have likely never questioned or even considered it at all. Even if they did, it wouldn't change anything. You can't force someone to have feelings they don't have, or to stop seeing others as objects you mase well ask them to be a foot taller. They have never been any other way. Its asking a person with flawed perception to use that flawed perception to find and fix the flaws in their perception. The narcissist is a shattered persona their personality is not cohesive or whole. The narcissist's mind - their very self - broke into pieces under whatever stress and pressure they were subjected to before the personality was even formed yet, and before they could even understand what was going on. And then it stayed and formed and grew into being that way. As the personality is not integrated or whole, it cannot process past traumas, nor can it grow or heal. It is simply stuck in a time warp of emotion where it feels the trauma and pain of the past, every day as if it were happening now. Their false selves which is usually at least a vulnerable self and a protective self were created as a way to cope with that. They have such issues with self concept and identity that they often have no real self just endless shifting masks coming to forefront and fading into the background as another one takes over. They are mimics and chameleons. They use other people kind of like a psychic mirror to be able to access who and what they are to try regulate a sense of self worth and self esteem which is what they call narcissistic supply. This mirroring is the main purpose of other people in their lives and it's something they are required to do for survival and they are in a constant state of toddler survival mode. Their only motive is to save, preserve and protect themselves. Unfortunately, that is all they are really able to do. They cannot relate to other people. They cannot grow or move on. There is no room in there. There is no room for anything but the self. The only real problems are their problems. The only real feelings are their feelings. The only real person is the narcissist. In addition to these things, it's important to understand that you're dealing with a person who cannot bond with other people, cannot trust others and is pathologically insecure. This is not the kind of insecurity people are talking about when they mean someone has low self-esteem, though that's definitely a problem with narcissists, too. This is insecurity on a fundamental level, where they don't feel safe. They cannot bond or connect to others, so they never get to know them and cannot trust them, no matter how long it's been. Even the basic trust required to physically exist in the world with other people, they don't have in anybody - including themselves. The world is a battleground, an inherently unsafe place where everyone is not just not an ally, but an enemy, a potential life-threatening attacker. You cannot ever love someone like this enough to prove that you are safe enough for them to trust. It can't happen, because they don't know what safety is. They live in a world where there is no such thing. Some narcissists may become super-aggressive, dominant and even violent in order to deal with that; others may become helpless, vulnerable and lost; and still others may become ultra-controlled, and flat emotionally with very little reaction to anything, but all of these are ways of dealing with the same fundamental problem: they believe the world is unsafe, which influences their orientation to it and their interactions with it enormously.

@@aliross2720 Or they can hit the streets and be turnt out by a pimp.

@@aliross2720 too long piss off

Yes! That is exactly what happened to Jeffrey Dahmer in prison. He was beaten to death.....Because of the other inmates, I think he's still in special protection. Just love how our justice system seems to cater to the guilty!

I found Jayne extremely rude too.

Is Jayne the dog handler?

Ya true.....it was like she was trying to tell something...what happened to them..

I think the same, she somehow was trying to let everyone know what happened ☹️

Right. I don’t believe in “coincidences” at this scale. I do believe Shanann, God, the universe, someone/thing was dropping hints.

Einstein said that coincidences are God's way of remaining anonymous.

There are not coincidences in this world, that was a clear signal sent by Shannan or God, or another almitghty force saying, they are not alive anymore, this monster killed them, BE AWARE...believe in signals sent from the beyond or live your whole life thinking this is it and it is not.

This tragedy is entertaining?

@@sanjuan651 I believe she meant that the documentary keeps you engaged is all. Whyouwanna pick a fight? We're all shocked by this evil tragedy. PEACE ✌

I've seen this "Jane" before up in the mountains with disappearances. It is actually frightening to me that she seems so incompetent! I would hate to have someone I knew or loved with her on patrol!

Yes I completely agree. The dogs where actually trauma dogs, so they knew that trauma had gone on in there 😢 sloppy dog handler, very sloppy 🤦🏼‍♀️

Many other video's say otherwise. Heartbreaking anyway.

definitely not impressed with the dog handlers

Yeah and why is the dog continuously barking barking at what?

@@melissaamoroso2205 Trying to give the handler a hint.

@@Aluminata a velha do cachorro eh uma demente

@@ClerRose Sim.

On December 31st 2017 hearing shanann say she is looking forward to 2018 broke my heart...I wish I could just grab her and say run... grab your girls and run as fast and far as you can....

Same. This was SO SENSELESS

As a father myself I could never do this to my own girls!! Shannan was so beautiful I just don't get it

Tells you how deceptive he is.

Not only that but when the daughter said dad is my hero

That's an excellent question. Because the weird witch DID lie. Gah, when I hear that giggle she does my stomach gets quesy.

I don't get it either. . . She knew so much more than she told the cops. The text messages between her + Chris and the stuff she googled proves it. She tries to make everyone believe that SHE was another of Chris"s victims..? LOL The fake crying.. OMG. Sorry Nicole ..The world is not that stupid. She thinks she's smart but she obviously is not very bright at all.

He just think he’s more intelligence to another people oh the police…. How stupid you can be?.I guess he think he’s the best..

She is obviously just as narcissistic as he is...the way she says "it's not gonna happen" omg...annoying. She was looking to be famous...I wouldn't put anything past her..

I've read seomewhere in the comments that her dad is a free mason and good friend with D. Atorney...

isn't it chilling...

I missed the skull part, I had to go back.....beyond crazy😲

That was so creepy and prophetic.

I totally agree with you.. this woman had something to do with all of this

One possible scenario: Shanann gets home that night but Chris is down in the basement with NK, maybe he hears her come in since the alarm might’ve pinged or just heard the door close, or maybe he doesn’t hear her and Shanann goes down there to see him of course discovering NK. He was apparently sleeping down there as it was because of their marital issues. Then there was an altercation maybe physical maybe not but eventually he strangled her, and NK helped with clean up. Who knows..

But then at some point why wouldn’t he implicate her if she did anything?

I’ve heard speculation that the main detective was friends with Nichole’s father…that detective has sued others who have covered this case and suggested a connection…it’s highly suspect. Apparently the detectives wife has a KZfaq channel

@@deborahpoole9710 at some point he might implicate her, but it might go into something bigger than just an affair, something to do with those oil tanks and that leaky valve.

I believe she had something to do with it

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Not to mention a hundred other things, too. Bothersome, she was "asking chris" (texting)if he was "sleeping with HER", meaning Shanann, his wife. Kessiknew exactly what she was doing. She's rotten.

Yes it makes me think he may be a true sociopath. But where were the signs before? Unless the affair drove him insane?

@@clsatc he is what's known as a communal narcissist. And probably a sociopathic personality.

@@clsatc no way. Having affairs don't drive you insane. This guy planned this out of pure selfishness.

@@Dreamkeeper76 LUST

@@clsatc I believe there were also drugs involved, cocaine or meth, intensifies the sex??? It was pure and simple crazy lust, blew his mind 🤯

Chris Coleman who also murdered his family & was involved in an affair springs to mind …..

@@tintinhickey5869 both weak, disgusting excuses for men. Now, Nate. He is what I call a man. Bless you Nate. You did good!

Why did police give her a new identity

@@sarahmurphy8030because of people harassing her online

I ja se to pitam..

I watched it unfold when I was in labor with my daughter, I went into labor late on the 13th & she was born on the 16th, it was absolutely heartbreaking watching this happen as I was bringing my own baby girl into the world, this case will stick with me my whole life 😢

I'm surprised he didn't go on the run that night.

Yes absolutely terrible K-9 handler

We got a service dog with tracking for our son with Autism. He could do multiple tasks & was invaluable. It really is all about the handler when tracking or scent detection. The dogs are great & never forget but the handler MUST know what to look for & trust the dog. Of course there are dogs not suited for tracking . An English bulldog couldn’t be expected to scent track. Things like wind & humidity are important .That’s where the handler must know what they’re doing. It appears Cody’s handler didn’t trust him . That’s a recipe for failure.

I, along with a beagle (unfortunately named) Dopey, are training to be cadaver dog handler and cadaver dog. I always think about this case and about the handlers with the cadaver dogs in the house when either I do something wrong or he has a false hit. I used to incident in this case to inspire myself to be a better handler.

@@MusicLeeSarah God bless and keep you near. Wishing you and Dopey success in your endeavors.

@@MusicLeeSarah Good luck to you and Dopey. I have two beagles myself. They are the best!

😫😫😪😪😪

Good catch Ms. Olson.

He could never say any of their names, this is an unconscious and psychological way of distancing himself from his crime. I find it very interesting that their unborn son was named Nico Lee and Watts' mistress's name is Nichol Lee.

@@jencameron8124 The ironies of life are amazing!!

And the polygraph lady, who busted him, Tammy Lee! 🌹

Exactly!! From the GET!! And you better believe he's the one who hid her phone under the couch cushion, little quick run through the house b4 opening the front door. He was in full on panic mode!

I think he is letting NK out the back.

The police didnt even question why he ran straight to Shananns car. I find that VERY ODD.

@@hedycarrera3663 U could be right there !!!

yes to all of this!! also, why wouldn’t he let the friends and cop follow him in? why go in the garage leaving them outside, then moments later go to another door to let them in?

Gtfo of Nichole!! She had zero to do with this!!! She is a victim too!!

@@foreverlove8919 NOT!

@@foreverlove8919 NK a victim??? You MUST be kidding!!!

@forever love a victim????

@@KratomGrl yes!! Could u imagine if this happened to you??? Really? When things happen to people they blame others, but when something happens to someone else they say oh its their own fault!!! Fake as Fkkkk!!

The only "other side" is the other side of a coffin lid.

I really hope so. This must be the worst crime on humanity..of the century so far!!. I hope no-one out does this . God bless them. Poor little angel babies 😣

@@mdcs1992 god is holding them in the palm of his hands whatever

@@mdcs1992 there is no way for you to know that for sure. Why be so callus with other’s source of comfort?

@@mdcs1992 you know this? Dope

Big mistake and they know that now, its the only deterrent for creeps like him! He deserves the chair.

Well said!

and the idiot thinks he’s going to get out of prison lmao 😂

Scott Peterson got the death penalty and after twenty years in prison, it was changed to life. They would not have carried it out, anyway.

Let him live and have nightmares of what he did and lost.

And once she knew that SW was having his "first son" that was it! They HAD TO GO! he did her bidding 😢 I pray my sons are never so weak that some tail gets you THAT twisted up

​@@butameremortal9424Tail??

It also says that SHE was the one who wanted his family dead and came with the plan and helped him.

Cant get more ironic than that. There are no coincidences. That was a sign from Shannon to Chris "Theyll know what you did to us"

@@madisonmiklas7049 It sure does seem like it! It’s actually one of the things that most makes me believe in a divine order. I realize there are coincidences, but that could not have been more well-timed.

Isn't that crazy!?

@@brittaolson6550 it's her screaming from her shallow grave to get her babies out of those oil drums!!!💯

How,, why, can't understand??????? Was it worth it, CW????? Over a woman u just met.HOW DARE U!!!!!! Why the children, they didn't do any thing to u but LOVE u???????? Now what do u deserve????? LIFE IN PRISON!!!!!!! The DEATH PENALTY????? Well u got LIFE IN PRISON, I think that's to good for u. U get a bed to sleep on, u get 3 meals a day, u get to write letters, oh, u get to breathe unlike your precious family. O God have Mercy on u. And the Lord b with Shanan and her girls, Bella, CeCe and Nico and also her family. My prayers r with u. I will pray for all of u RIP.

The police fucked this up , the house should've been locked down telling people they can go in when.searxh dogs are in there ..regardless the police took a " non emergency attitude "

It was all a farce. Chris was miserable. He was such a week man that he never spoke up and said "this isn't my dream, this is your dream", and instead, as soon as the next best thing came along, he was gone! A true sociopath. But we all need to also learn from their marital dynamic... It's so important that BOTH couples are heard, and that there's no secret animosity growing and festering, waiting to explode. This family needed less online videos and more counseling, living within their means. They were both too concerned with the APPEARANCE of the perfect family life, whilst the reality of their lives was that they were struggling, in debt up to their eyeballs and about to lose their home. So many couples are guilty of doing this on social media. It's sad.

@@WarriorWomanWaWo At the end it was all a lie. Thing is…he was abusing Shannan…mentally and emotionally…physically at the end. The Prosecutor stated in his Closing Remarks Chris is a malignant narcissist. These people are cowards but will never see it that way. He felt he had the upper hand over Shannan and was drunk on feelings of power and his new supply. He was looking forward while Shannan was wanting to work on the present but Chris was already 5 steps into the future. Which is why malignant narcissists screw up. They really aren’t that smart.

@@WarriorWomanWaWo I absolutely agree with your take. He was living robotically for sure. So I get the animosity toward Shannan. The babies though? I cannot fathom how he feigned love for those beautiful girls for their short lives. Little CeCe makes my face light up when I see her big mischievous smile, little Bella makes me wanna snuggle her so tight...just HOW? I'll never understand it, I never want to in a way but..Your take was spot on regarding his dissatisfaction with his life.

Why did they get his foot prints on paper?

Well said. I also agree with you it drove me insane Jane not focusing on the dog. The dog is looking right at the red dumpster across the road and they are not paying attention. With the text messages i feel so sick to my stomach for Shannan those last text messages she sent to CW she was hurting bad those last few days of her life it’s just so sad. Bella you watch her on the plane how she is so alert to the plane all her surroundings the poor beautiful girl would have seen so much that fateful night.

Looks like a show… National Geographic “Wild”?

The black skull is dipped in oil also like WTF

totally bizarre... and the timing....am speechless

Prophetic and creepy

Best time to jump-scare him..

She was referring to the food one of her girls is allergic to, and the grandmother feed it to her, right? Interesting point, it could be overdramatic using that kind of words. But the reason why Chris did such an .... incredibly stupid act is beyond me. Something is missing here, he probably plotted it with his weird mistress and had a plan to flee to Mexico or something.

Elaborate please?...

U are the smartest person in the comments.we all will always assume but never truly know everything that happened and how it happened.

@@AHMAD-2324 the theories about nk’s dad are a rabbit hole all on their own, and if they’re true then that means none of this is what we think it is and it could (somehow) potentially be even more disgusting than it already is.