Ep. 167 | Is 640 Resolution Worth The Money?!

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3 жыл бұрын

A common question when it comes to thermal rifle scopes a if 640 high resolution is worth the extra money compared the standard 384 and 320 resolution optics. Hans and Jason have discussed this 2 years ago on the podcast but decided to revisit the topic because of the improvements in technology in recent years and because the question continues to arise. We hope this show helps answer some of those questions for you.
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@michaeleyer2183 9 ай бұрын

Great Company and Outstanding people. Thank Y’All for all you do!🇺🇸

@TheLateNightVisionShow 9 ай бұрын

Thank you so much!! We appreciate that!👊🏼👊🏼

@kv5882 2 жыл бұрын

I eat, live, breathe night vision and it's great to listen to true professionals who know the industry and technology. I am seriously looking at thermal clip on, possibly the AGM TC35 but I haven't seen any reviews. I'd appreciate your feedback if you all had the chance to test it out. Thanks! K

@billalumni7760 Жыл бұрын

If you ever visit this discussion again you might want to suggest people view it on different resolutions under the quality settings. Say watch the video under 720p and then again under 360p. Not a perfect comparison but it will get the message across. Perhaps even use an example with base magnification and two different scopes one with 640 and the other with 384.

@freedomfamily1358 4 ай бұрын

The question is not is it worth it the question is do I need it for what I do and how often are you night hunting!!!

@Theolddeerhunters 3 жыл бұрын

Great video. Thanks for shout out. My most difficult decision has been XQ50 vs XP50.

@jeremypresgrave1488 3 жыл бұрын

I'm in the same situation right now myself. I have a xq50 reserved on backorder but I'm tempted to upgrade to the xp50 but I really don't know what's the best choice. I want the better picture but I also want the magnification

@Theolddeerhunters 3 жыл бұрын

@@jeremypresgrave1488I am moving to XP50. Here is a good video that shows the XP at 4X is as good as XQ is at 3.5. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/kKxlqNyip5bJeGQ.html

@jeremypresgrave1488 3 жыл бұрын

Have you been able to look through the thermion 2xq50 yet? Is the picture better than the original xq50? I'm really all tore up on this situation cause it's alot of money on the line here and I definitely want to make the right decision

@Theolddeerhunters 3 жыл бұрын

@@jeremypresgrave1488 I have not but you will not be disappointed with the XQ50. It is a great scope if you hunt mostly coyotes. With new lens I am sure it will be even better than my current model. If you buy from a good dealer they will let you check the scope image before you mount it and then exchange it for XP if you are not happy.

@NNPOTechnologyCoLtd 3 жыл бұрын

Hi friend, Our company produced latest TR20 series thermal imaging scope with LRF, may i know are you interested in them? if yes, please be free to let me know.haha

@greenharvestproductions6743 2 жыл бұрын

Love it

@Liam-ql7tr 3 жыл бұрын

Pulsar needs a (XP or XG) 640 scopes with 4-5x base magnification!

@outdoorlegacy 3 жыл бұрын

Agree!

@zantrex4 8 ай бұрын

Me watching this video in 480p in 2023: ... yes, 640 is worth the money...

@scotgarland7526 2 жыл бұрын

You will notice a difference with the 640 in the fog and rain

@jeremypresgrave1488 3 жыл бұрын

What is the BEST 384 resolution scope on the market today.....in your opinion???

@ngaoutdoors4157 3 жыл бұрын

Agm Ts 25 👍

@kell7195 3 жыл бұрын

Iray

@jeremypresgrave1488 3 жыл бұрын

Still sooo damn torn on what to do. I have my name on the list with outdoor legacy gear for a thermion 2 xq 50 but I'm not sure if I want to upgrade to the xp50. My shots are all 100 to 300 yards but I WANT the best pic I can get out of whichever I buy.

@outdoorlegacy 3 жыл бұрын

Jeremy give me a call, we’ll talk it out. I’m not convinced the XQ50 still isn’t the right choice if you’re shooting that far but let’s talk and see.

@capitalistwire 3 жыл бұрын

Do you guys sell used thermals for clients like me who have purchased with you? I want to sell a thermal and get another new one from you guys.

@outdoorlegacy 3 жыл бұрын

We accept trade ins BUT we tell everyone you will be way, way ahead selling it yourself. We don’t have a large market for used thermals since people come to us for new scopes, so it takes us way more work and time to sell a used one. We also have to cover the credit card fees, shipping and insurance when we sell the used scope and we have a lot of risk in guaranteeing the scope for a certain period of time for the new buyer. We’ve been burned with Murphy’s law of defective used scopes on multiple occasions. It takes us 10-15 more used sales to break even on that one. The margins are just so thin. With that said, you can sell it yourself for 15-20% more than what you’d get from us. While we do take trade ins I tell every customer they will be far better off selling it themselves. I hope they makes a little sense.👍🏼

@capitalistwire 3 жыл бұрын

@@outdoorlegacy got it. Thanks

@shannonhazeltine9059 3 жыл бұрын

What’s for sale?

@capitalistwire 3 жыл бұрын

@@shannonhazeltine9059 Flir Thermasight Zeus 640. $4k unit. Willing to help someone get this 640 unit for much less than todays rates. (Sorry if I'm "promoting" guys, I can delete this of needed.) I want to upgrade to a Trijicon from Jason's company.

@outdoorlegacy 3 жыл бұрын

@@capitalistwire You're good James!!

@BoneSoldier82 2 жыл бұрын

I have an ATN Thor 4 right now. Haven't seen any reviews on any ATN products, I feel like I'm missing something.... What's the reason this show has seemingly avoided ATN?? Sorry, feel like that's a noob question...

@piggyslayer1999 2 жыл бұрын

Its considered kinda bottom of the barrel, not saying they are horrible, im own one BUUUUT the QC is spotty at best, its the only thermal ive used that has crashed and customer service can be shitty

@ngaoutdoors4157 3 жыл бұрын

Very informative videos as always 🇺🇸🇺🇸👍👍Welcome aboard Patrick!

@chaddop9500 3 жыл бұрын

Caviott and jilopy! Love it!

@dannyteets 2 жыл бұрын

With my trail xq50 and xp50, I could not tell the difference at all.

@varanid9 2 жыл бұрын

From what I've seen, the resolution only matters when you zoom in. Otherwise, the images look pretty much the same.

@conleymarcum410 Жыл бұрын

@@varanid9 When you zoom to higher mag, how much image degradation going from 2-4x.

@varanid9 Жыл бұрын

@@conleymarcum410 quite a bit; I had trouble identifying smaller normal objects. That doesn't matter to me though, because I mount it in front of a 24mm scope as a clip on as it's light and compact.

@ryaniam22 Жыл бұрын

@@varanid9 Which clip on are you using? I really like the idea of clip ons more than a stand alone thermal. The Tigir 6z looks awesome but expensive as shit lol. Some of the clip on that double as a helmet mounted look pretty good

@speedster-qe1nj 3 жыл бұрын

Better question do get a 640 scope 384 monocular or 384 scope and 640 monocular. Lol I gotta know :)

@TheLateNightVisionShow 3 жыл бұрын

Our opinion is if you’re going to have a 640 it needs to be in your scope and 384 in the monocular. Reason being, you want the very best image quality possible when your finger is on the trigger and you’re about to send one down range. If you miss identify with a monocular it costs nothing but when the lead goes down range a mistaken ID can be terrible. Just our 2 cents!

@EroticOnion23 Жыл бұрын

You can use a scope like the rattler as a monocular

@smicksmookety 2 жыл бұрын

9:50 They'd be cooler if they did, man.

@sandybartlett1333 3 жыл бұрын

Great video. My opinion is the 640 isn't worth it. You can't hunt anything any better with 640 over 300s. It does Makes better video tho.

@kingrider75 2 жыл бұрын

Same here. Not trying to discourage anyone from spending the coin because the 640 will deliver a better image without a doubt. But as a coyote hunter the Rattler 384 resolution has never made me feel like my buddies had an advantage on me as far as shots at critters. People need to spend more time deciding magnification needs in my opinion. If your shooting 350 yards you obviously want to look at scopes with a higher base magnification

@EroticOnion23 Жыл бұрын

I have a Rattler 384 too, from what I've seen on a 640 yea I'm gonna wait for the 4K before I upgrade...😅

@Standforwhatsright33 Жыл бұрын

@EroticOnion23 That's what I'm debating right now. Debating between adder and rattler as well. What's the id range on both? Any differences?