Comment of the week! 😂

ive been waiting for headers to come back in stock for over a year.....

Just like LS small blocks they continued on. 3800 should’ve did the same. 3800 Series IV 295Hp, 354TQ lol jk.

I recently just had to drive my pacecar and the power wasnt what i remebered after feeling a tuned lnf. Great platforms to work on tho compared to most.

They wouldve had to pair em up to good transmissions if they continued

@@ianscheurer that was pretty much the weak point with that platform. I cant believe they still used the same transmission in the LS4 cars as well. Pair it up with a nice 6 speed or a stronger auto trans.

I have one now I just bought and I LOVE it. Such a great car to daily

They both used to sound like shit but now just your Ford does haha

Will this fit the LeSabre?

I was thinking the same thing.

The science behind it is above that range the blower generates more heat so you get diminishing returns. This is negated on an intercooled car as the intercooler can remove in excess of 100 degrees of intake air temp.

@@joeyf8368 Bingo. There's a reason they got the nickname "heatons." Much like some tunes pushing the 1.4 turbos to over 20 pounds of boost on a stock cruze/sonic, you're so far outside the efficiency range that the temps are getting stupid high.

@@joeyf8368 ok, thanks for clarifying. I must've gotten fixated on the crossover and didn't notice the intercooler.

Based on scans, nothing. Although, like mentioned in my comment above we'll be doing a proper A/B test on Zoomer's car here soon. This video was more meant to showcase the sound of the equalizer. It sounds great in video but even better in person

@JPL Performance Honestly, not enough to worry about. 3" is overkill for 99.9% of cars. We didn't have to jump up to a 3.5" downpipe on our 2.0 LSJ that made 898whp until about 600whp. Zoom's car runs a 2.5" catback that necks down to 2.25" after the rear axle. My turbo Ion Redline made 408whp on a 100% fully stock catback a few years ago. Exhaust size doesn't matter as much as people make it seem.

@@gbrunner24 exactly. People put a 3 in exhaust on a stock Honda Civic and think they're making it fast when really all they're doing is making it sound like shit.

Ryan Wahlstrom that's exactly wat I was thinking. Where is the hp. 310hp seems low with those mods

asking because I just bought one?

Why would you need to upgrade any of that? These engines have ran deep into the 8's in the 1/4 mile with 100% stock bottom end. They're strong as hell.

Is that what the puffs of smoke were during the pull?

Yes, that's spark knock. Hopefully they got its out while tuning

This car has been through multiple revisions of prototype equalizers over the past 8 months. The equalizer took a bit more time to develop than we thought, but we'll put together a great A/B test on Zoomer's car here in the near future 😉

Yep! Full resonator, 400 cell catalytic converter and our ZZP 3 inch catback.

@@ZZPerformanceChannel I would love to here what the equalizer setup sounds like without a stupid resonator

Shu rthe duck up

@@ianscheurer duck up to 1000hp you can ok

We understand the confusion. Fortunately the mods on this 3800 allow us to run a smaller pulley. It has a full-stack intercooler, bolt-ons, E85, and an XP Camshaft. As Ryan said, you want to match the proper pulley to your build and for this build we needed a 2.6 to achieve the desired boost.

@@ZZPerformanceChannelCan I get a list of mods for a reference point. Thanks again for the great products.

See my comment up above to @styles707

@@gbrunner24 thanks

Smaller pulley is not always the best answer. It's all about finding the best pulley for the efficiency range of the blower and your setup. Typically going too small on the pulley size will bump the HP a few but give you some more torque. With that though comes more heat. This is why I'm sticking to a stock pulley on my LSJ build. Less heat, more reliable power and I can run a ton more timing out the top end.

Yeah there's a little confusion but let me try to clarify some things. 1. Trying to run a too small of pulley kills power because the supercharger gets out of its efficiency range. Anytime a supercharger or turbo gets out of its efficiency range, it starts blowing extremely hot air. Hot air means a big PSI number, but in reality it's just hot air. Think of 90 PSI in a semi truck tire vs 90 PSI in a bicycle tire. Now technically they're both read "90 PSI" on a gauge, but the volume of air in the two is tremendously different. Beyond that, hot air is less dense than cooler air. Less dense = less oxygen, less oxygen = less power. 2. Hot air = detonation. Superheated air will easily combust, which is bad because the air/fuel mixture will combust before it should in the cylinder. This is called detonation, or spark knock. Luckily, GM engineers knew this would happen so they have what's called a "knock sensor". This is a little sensor that detects spark knock and tells the ECU to pull timing. The problem is when the ECU pulls timing, it pulls horsepower. So now all that horsepower you just spent a lot of money on for that under size pulley, the ECU just pulled out of your engine! See, less timing = less power. Less power = less heat and less heat = less detonation. So now you understand why it's not good to "crank up the boost" so to speak, but why is this car getting away with it? Couple reasons. First this car is running e85. E85 has the octane equivalent of about 103-105. This significantly decreases the chance of detonation. 2nd, this car is running an intercooler. The intercooler can lower intake temperature by over 100°F which furthermore reduced chance of detonation. Finally this car is fully modded to take advantage of the boost including but not limited to: a low restrictive exhaust, cold air intake, 180° thermostat, cooler spark plugs, and safe tuning.