How to Choose Your 3800 Cams | Behind the Builds

How to Choose Your 3800 Cams | Behind the Builds | ZZPerformance

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The first episode for our new series, Behind the Builds, is here. Ryan highlights what cams you should consider for your 3800 cars. Stay tuned for the next episode!
Products Mentioned:
NATURALLY ASPIRATED
1. GT-1| 00:30 | zzperformance.com/products/gt...
2. GT-2 | 00:49 | zzperformance.com/products/gt...
SUPERCHARGED
1. VS | 02:36 | zzperformance.com/products/su...
2. XP | 03:37 | zzperformance.com/products/su...
3. NIC | 04:38 | zzperformance.com/products/su...
4. XPZ | 05:49 | zzperformance.com/products/su...
TURBOCHARGED
2. Stattama ST2 | 06:57 | zzperformance.com/products/st...
3. Stattama ST4 | 07:04 | zzperformance.com/products/st...
4. Stattama ST5 | 07:24 | zzperformance.com/products/st...

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@jamesmoran8294 2 жыл бұрын

Boy am I glad these guys didn't disappear after the 3800 became past-tense

@Erik-kp1ux 4 жыл бұрын

I used the gt1 cam for my 98 gp gt build. Ran a 14.3 guarter mile. Best thing in the world was beating gtp's and then telling them I'm only a n/a setup. I did the cam at 180k miles. Compression at 180psi all cylinders. Only worn part was timing chain dampener about half way worn. Put the ssm90 kit on it at 205k miles. Never had any issues with reliability. That car raised 3 kids and did every errand and road trip for years. Got the car to a 13.21@103 and then a bad storm hit and flooded my property and filled the transmission with water. Car had 250k miles on it! That was back in 2008! Glad to see Zzp is finally getting there name out there.

@averyrickenbaugh1855 3 жыл бұрын

Would be cool if you guys sold the gt2 cam and everything it requires as a package

@kurrentevent 2 жыл бұрын

My point. Cause searching for everything individually hard. I still don't understand the preload etc with lifters and springs

@RaisingRa 9 ай бұрын

Did you guys go through with buying the stuff 😅?

@tuningwithstyx 4 жыл бұрын

Would love to see what a typical dyno chart would look like for each cam so you can see where the peaks are and what the gains are at each rpm

@TheCrawfordaz 4 жыл бұрын

Great info 👍🏼

@jorger643 4 жыл бұрын

Young talent good to see good job keep it up

@slidinsidewayzproductionss7906 4 жыл бұрын

Cool vid man

@israelzamora1749 4 жыл бұрын

Can't wait for the nic cam

@snutmeez 2 жыл бұрын

So, with my bolt ons, I will be running the VS cam, 90 lb valve springs, steel retainers, double roller timing chain, ARP head studs, a re-tuned ECU for 91 octane, good to go.

@bryantb3391 2 жыл бұрын

Got a fiero can't wait to launch like a rocket seems pretty straight forward brother had a built gtp fastest thing I've been in did 160 or more couldn't really tell anymore the needle was buried and felt like we were floating

@snutmeez 2 жыл бұрын

Only thing, I wish there was a ZZPerformance in 🇨🇦

@currybuiltperformance6206 4 жыл бұрын

Good video. Gonna be upgrading from an ST2 to an ST5 cam in my L67 once it's in my s10🤙.

@chevy1985k20 4 жыл бұрын

Nice. I am building a 3800 for my 1980 grand prix. Doing something a bit different for it.

@drivenstreetillusions9662 3 жыл бұрын

chevy1985k20 how did it go?

@drivenstreetillusions9662 3 жыл бұрын

Any updates on youre build

@jawanpowell9053 4 ай бұрын

How'd your swap go? I am looking to do a 3800 swap in my 96 S10.

@bullet-sm5gd 2 жыл бұрын

Ik u said to do 136 comp valve springs but I just got 105s because I couldn’t buy a doubler roller was sold out so I got a single and 105s maybe I’ll just stick to slightly over 6k and try not to rev it all the way fully then😅 with my nic cam build

@jamesstaggs4160 4 жыл бұрын

Bummer the 3800 series tuning scene didn't take off like I figured it should. Such a great engine. I guess it's not a 2JZ and you can't make 10,000 hp with the 3800 so maybe that's the reason.

@savagesock3598 3 жыл бұрын

kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rcV_eJZ4sb_Fk2g.html

@notsogrand2837 2 жыл бұрын

It's so easy to get good power out of them though.

@tuningwithstyx 2 жыл бұрын

It's because they mostly came in FWD cars that were limited by a pretty crappy transmission for making power

@notsogrand2837 2 жыл бұрын

@@tuningwithstyx I fucking hate the 4t65e but I love the Grand Prixs. I wanna build a 300+ horsepower one sometime soon but that's the only part that scares me. What's dumb is they had a stronger FWD transmissions, the 4t80e, I believe the Northstar V8s got them but oddly the 5.3 Wbody cars never did.

@strong_voice_of_truth Жыл бұрын

Too little rwd support, the stupid 60 degree pattern makes it difficult to get any good transmission behind them. The LS pretty much destroyed every other gm platform. Some of us love the little v6. It responds amazingly well to a turbo. If you want 600hp, it's very doable. If GM had only used it for a rwd turbo gn remake, it would be even more legendary than the original. But, any fan of gm knows they make consistently stupid decisions about what we really want.

@christopherpoucher483 3 жыл бұрын

I have a 96 camaro 3.8 manual 79k on the dot! In 2020 100% factory

@shtboxgarage2323 3 жыл бұрын

Im gonna get the xpz cam when I build my new engine

@mag1vl 8 ай бұрын

Hello Guys from Australia 🙃 While this question is not about cams but what driving them. I have a Aussie 3800 with a Rollmaster single row chain and it doesn't have a chain dampener fitted, with the single row chain should it be fitted or run the same way as the double row chain and leave it off?

@magnusharmon1933 Ай бұрын

Hey Ryan D! I have a Natrally Aspirated 3800 series 2 and I want to upgrade to Supercharge. Will the supercharge option works for the Naturally Aspirated 3800 series 2? I'm hoping to upgrade with the double roller timming chain, intercooler system, ZXP cam, tubular header and etc. You didn't mention if the ZXP cam will pass admission which I intend to used with aluminum head as well. Please replay and let me know. Thanks Ryan D.

@RinegnProductions 2 жыл бұрын

Where are you guys getting the aluminum heads from for the 3800.

@drivenstreetillusions9662 3 жыл бұрын

Fbody build here so many questions awnsered alot more on which parts to order with the gt-1 cam

@ZZPerformanceChannel 3 жыл бұрын

All of the suggested parts to go along with the cam are listed on the product page for the GT-1 cam

@strong_voice_of_truth Жыл бұрын

Why did you discontinue the gt1? We were going to drop one in my son's camaro and ended up going with a vs cam instead.

@RagEGhosTvideos 3 жыл бұрын

so where does the st2 cam make peak power on the rev range compared to the st4 and st5?

@chrisscheuer3205 3 жыл бұрын

Made a great video, Mike Tyson’s son.

@damynserna703 3 жыл бұрын

10/10

@snutmeez 2 жыл бұрын

Yoooooo, how can we get a ZZP shop up here in 🇨🇦? I know the people would go crazy, moddin w-bodies, Caddies, Lnf, Lsj, all of the platforms you offer. Your prices are super killer, stuff would fly off the shelves, people would be getting engines built to the teeth. Oh yeah, can you make bigger ZZPERFORMANCE stickers, the same sixe as the ZZP sticker? I would slap one right on my blacked out fender for decals

@Flaco7136 4 ай бұрын

I have a Pontiac boneville super charger Bonneville ssei 97.. can I use a 3.5 pulley??also I have a zz38 cam

@550sized 3 жыл бұрын

Anybody have issue tuning with the N.I.C. cam? I've heard trying to get it to idle correctly is very difficult with that cam. Looking to do a supercharged cam build. But don't want to dump money into something that runs so so

@masterofpuppets2004 2 жыл бұрын

so will the VS cam and 1.65 rockers gain more than 1.9 rockers ?

@antraxlos1923 2 жыл бұрын

So for the gt1 cam what changes do I need to really make?

@KDThaGod_ 3 жыл бұрын

I have a 99 v6 Firebird with like 170k on the dash but I rebuilt the entire engine at 150k miles

@spacetoast4874 5 ай бұрын

Waiting for the gt1 cam to come back in stock 😢

@EatRustledJimmies 3 жыл бұрын

So the xps won't pass emissions even on e85?

@shirtshot7975 2 жыл бұрын

Where can i find a EV3 for my N/A 3800 for sale?

@prestonboling1427 2 жыл бұрын

is it unsafe to run an xp cam without a tune? ima a 96 guy so it's not easy finding someone who can tune

@ks-mg2vq 9 ай бұрын

So if i installed the NIC cam with all of the supporting mods you mentioned, would a canned zzp pcm tune work ok with it? I know a dyno tune is always preferred but just to get it started and running strong would a canned tune be harmful in anyway as long as i dont see any KR? I understand that you need improved airflow, cooler plugs, all that jaz but just to get the wheels turning would a zzp tune + supporting mods be okay withput a dyno tune? All answers are appreciated pls i need feedback.

@ZZPerformanceChannel 9 ай бұрын

A ZZP 1.0 flash would 100% be safe and reliable for your setup. We've spent 2 decades dialing in our 1.0 tunes and we've seen about every single combo in the books. If you're looking to further dialing in the tune we would highly recommend HPTuners and doing email remote tuning with us.

@silenciummortum2193 4 жыл бұрын

I know this is for the V6 3800 which I have but I was wondering something else also. I also have a 2013 Jetta 2.5 5 cyl. I was wondering if their were any ways to actually get more horsepower out of it without having to extensively mod it? I know their aren’t many aftermarket parts out of it except for exhaust and maybe a K&N filter. Any thoughts?

@davidnewlin9853 3 жыл бұрын

sell it, get an older mkiv jetta 1.8, get a 2.0L turbo off of one of the 2.0 cars. new injectors and a tune. 330 whp

@justink7849 3 жыл бұрын

Yup sell the POS VW and buy something good that already makes power.

@onetwistedredneck4073 3 жыл бұрын

The XP cam comes alive at 6300rpm???

@jonnirivera110 4 жыл бұрын

I own a 04’ Monte Carlo SS (fully stocked) not sure which one I should go for? & how aggressive is the NIC cam 1-10?

@justink7849 3 жыл бұрын

NIC is aggressive and not for daily drivers. XPZ or intense stage 2 are about as big a cam you want for a street car.

@xxrated-2174 2 жыл бұрын

same idk what to pick since i already have a full straight pipe

@johnscott1981 4 жыл бұрын

Ya said hv3 insert for our fbodies but it says in yall description not for f bodies. Correct me if I'm wrong but the series ii that is in my 2002 f body is an l36 with a 9.4:1 comp ratio

@christophero1969 3 жыл бұрын

F-body has a different intake manifold.

@johnscott1981 3 жыл бұрын

@@christophero1969 thats what I'm getting at.... but he says in the video its for the f body. Lol 😆 🤣

@limpshady1113 4 жыл бұрын

So with the NIC cam, I’ve got the 1.9 rockers picked out and they come with the pedestal, bolts, and pushrods, also double roller timing chain, thicker front cover gasket, comp cam lifters... what else do I need to complete everything?

@tweeeder 4 жыл бұрын

He said that no 1.9 for any non stock cam

@crematedable 4 жыл бұрын

He says use 1.65 rockers at like 3 mins in

@christophero1969 3 жыл бұрын

@@tweeeder For any cam that has too much lift, a custom cam can be spec'd with a lower lift and use a greater rocker ratio, to keep the very heavy valve-lifters(cam-lobe-followers) under control at higher RPM'S, by reducing their traveling distance in the lifter bores and decreasing valve-float. The valve springs will last longer by not having to push the lifters back down as hard. Many exotic car manufacturers used this technique in the late 60's thru 1993 or so.

@DustinLeopard-wc3ez 4 ай бұрын

Do yall still make the HV3 runner?

@ZZPerformanceChannel 4 ай бұрын

We currently do not have the HV3 on the website, we are revising it for a new version, hopefully out within the year.

@ianb3866 2 жыл бұрын

just curious why did you guys discontinue the ST1 cam?

@dennismoran1299 2 жыл бұрын

I wonder if ZZP would special order the ST1 cam.

@paulcondie2520 4 жыл бұрын

Do you guys have any performance mods for a 2015 ats 3.6

@ZZPerformanceChannel 4 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately the 3.6 didn't get much aftermarket support. However, all suspension mods will still work for you, so check those out!

@paulcondie2520 4 жыл бұрын

@@ZZPerformanceChannel it has magnetic ride control. I was looking fot like cam n heads pkg? Throttle body n tune!!!??? No biggie, going after a ats v here soon! Thanks

@calvindirkmaat 3 жыл бұрын

You guys are beautiful .. cannot find anything online

@kotymccallister5150 4 жыл бұрын

Why would you go with a 1.65 rocker? Stock is 1.7. You're decreasing valve lift

@gstevie97 4 жыл бұрын

Stock is 1.6 in 3800s. LS engines have 1.7 stock, if that's what you're thinking of

@SheerMayhem 2 жыл бұрын

Who would actually do a cam swap on a NA 3800? 😂 Just do a blower swap and gain twice as much power!

@vpnjeo7099 2 жыл бұрын

goodluck doing that with a stock trans especially if it has 150k miles or more

@SheerMayhem 2 жыл бұрын

@@vpnjeo7099 a stock trans can handle stock or close to stock GTP power just fine. 🙄

@strong_voice_of_truth Жыл бұрын

I tend to agree, but for those wanting just a little more and the fun of tuning what they have it's worthwhile... especially in the camaro platform where the blower doesn't fit. It's pretty easy to get the v6 to run with a stock lt1. Anyone seriously wanting to make power goes turbo anyway.