Ethiopian Oddities: Vetterli-Mauser Hybrid (Sort Of)

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Today's Ethiopian Oddity is a rifle that appears to be a Vetterli action with a distinctly Mauser flair. The bolt is styled after the Vetterli system (including rear locking lugs) but has a non-functional Mauser flag safety lookalike instead of a functional Vetterli safety. The stock, sights, and barrel bands are Mauser-like, although the rear sight is nonfunctional (and looks distinctively Chinese, if I didn't know it came from Ethiopia...).
The caliber is inclear, but appears to be approximately .30 inch. It is definitely not 6.5mm (like the Vetterli-Carcano) or 10.5mm-11.5mm (like the original Vetterli and other contemporary black powder military rifles).
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@jon-paulfilkins7820
@jon-paulfilkins7820 2 жыл бұрын
When you pack several different rifles in to the same crate, this is what you find when you open it. - This is not in the Inventory - They've been breeding again haven't they
@dndboy13
@dndboy13 2 жыл бұрын
who fed the rifles after midnight
@anotheruser676
@anotheruser676 2 жыл бұрын
Just keep them away from the socks!
@jon-paulfilkins7820
@jon-paulfilkins7820 2 жыл бұрын
@@dndboy13 For the love of all that is holy, DON'T GET IT WET!
@nonamesplease6288
@nonamesplease6288 2 жыл бұрын
This is what happens when you leave rifles in a warm, dark place.
@BatCaveOz
@BatCaveOz 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine going to Ethiopia and finding a handmade "Chinese Mystery Bayonet" that fits this perfectly.
@ThePanEthiopian
@ThePanEthiopian Жыл бұрын
Made in China 😅
@SkywalkerGLM
@SkywalkerGLM 2 жыл бұрын
Me: Scoffs at the crudity of the rifle. Also me: Can’t even make a P80 correctly using the jig it came with. Gotta give them credit for putting together a weapon that appears to function. It’s clear someone put a lot of time into that.
@OoOoOo-we3dn
@OoOoOo-we3dn 2 жыл бұрын
Also that guy made it onto forgotten weapons.
@johannesnielsen7
@johannesnielsen7 2 жыл бұрын
You can't do a p80? I did mine with a hand drill and a dremel
@OoOoOo-we3dn
@OoOoOo-we3dn 2 жыл бұрын
@@johannesnielsen7 Don t be an ass, thanks.
@paranoza3573
@paranoza3573 2 жыл бұрын
@@OoOoOo-we3dn Dont be a baby, thanks.
@sampleentry5253
@sampleentry5253 2 жыл бұрын
@@OoOoOo-we3dn Buy a dremel press. Makes lining stuff up so much easier.
@badopinionsrighthere
@badopinionsrighthere 2 жыл бұрын
Whoever cobbled this together has some skill, even if it's a bit unrefined. Not bad for something made in someone's spare time.
@FirstDagger
@FirstDagger 2 жыл бұрын
Might not have been spare time.
@phuzz00
@phuzz00 2 жыл бұрын
But would you be brave enough to fire it? ;)
@benmaneson4420
@benmaneson4420 2 жыл бұрын
@@phuzz00 Health is overrated. No risk no gun ^^
@SimuLord
@SimuLord 2 жыл бұрын
@@phuzz00 I'd fire it...with a string from behind a thick blast shield, but I'd fire it.
@badopinionsrighthere
@badopinionsrighthere 2 жыл бұрын
@@benmaneson4420 fun first safety second
@Harff-_-
@Harff-_- 2 жыл бұрын
This is basically the hunting rifle from any post-apocalyptic game
@AshleyPomeroy
@AshleyPomeroy 2 жыл бұрын
He needs to wrap the stock with twine or colourful masking tape for the full effect.
@Kingwoodish
@Kingwoodish 2 жыл бұрын
This rifle was one of several abandoned by the Elbonian Embassy guards stationed in Addis Abbaba. They bugged out when their promised provisions and guard salary was not paid for several months.
@BatCaveOz
@BatCaveOz 2 жыл бұрын
The Elbonian Embassy guards were not known for their bravery, but they shall not be forgotten.
@TheDanCarr
@TheDanCarr 2 жыл бұрын
How do you know this?
@Garrumx
@Garrumx 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheDanCarr You can find basically all of the government info from Elbonia online, since they don't have any cyber-security at all.
@Jonzi310
@Jonzi310 2 жыл бұрын
Whoever made this actually tried to make the Vetterli betterli
@KinoTechUSA69
@KinoTechUSA69 2 жыл бұрын
Underrated comment
@indianapolisjones9479
@indianapolisjones9479 2 жыл бұрын
“This is…..this is not even a thing”
@jon-paulfilkins7820
@jon-paulfilkins7820 2 жыл бұрын
Points to the thing!
@zombieranger3410
@zombieranger3410 2 жыл бұрын
[thing disappears]
@DiggingForFacts
@DiggingForFacts 2 жыл бұрын
This strongly reminds me of the bolt-action AK clone that came from the Khyber Pass which Ian also filmed. Same sort of "we need it to look like the cool good thing" design philosophy.
@Bjornieman
@Bjornieman 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, if *I* didn't know where it came from, I'd guess Khyber Pass.
@Malikyte13
@Malikyte13 2 жыл бұрын
So Ian, on that note... We have a book on Chinese mystery pistols. When are you going to write a book on Ethiopian mystery rifles? Seems like there's plenty of material for you to cover and I think it'd be really neat to have it all catalogued in one book. If nothing else the information should be preserved for posterity, you never know when some document, worker, relative, or other source of information might pop up that can reference back to the book like "Aha! So THAT's what that was!"
@desert_jin6281
@desert_jin6281 2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking that very same thing.
@wingshad0w00982
@wingshad0w00982 2 жыл бұрын
I can see that happening, except for one deal, there seems to be way less organization to the rifles in Ethiopia, and you’d need a book for mystery rifles alone. Not impossible to do, but very, very, very lengthy
@HircineDaWolf
@HircineDaWolf 2 жыл бұрын
ulli will need exclusive rights to sell it for 300 more dollars than its worth
@yorecf9641
@yorecf9641 2 жыл бұрын
@@HircineDaWolf that would be funnier if it wasn't so true.
@Malikyte13
@Malikyte13 2 жыл бұрын
@@HircineDaWolf I don't follow. Who's Ulli?
@egg5474
@egg5474 2 жыл бұрын
“Who is the manufacturer of this firearm?” “Yes.”
@pirig-gal
@pirig-gal 2 жыл бұрын
"I made a gun!" "What kind?" "A gun!"
@mpf1947
@mpf1947 2 жыл бұрын
Bubba's Ethiopian cousin.
@MravacKid
@MravacKid 2 жыл бұрын
Indeed, there are indications it may actually be a firearm, and it has quite obviously been manufactured.
@bentilbury2002
@bentilbury2002 2 жыл бұрын
@@0neDoomedSpaceMarine Ah yes, but from which end? 😁
@MravacKid
@MravacKid 2 жыл бұрын
@@bentilbury2002
@Chlorate299
@Chlorate299 2 жыл бұрын
I do love these oddities, so many almost-but-not-quite right features, and they all look like they were made by someone with a box of spare parts and a file.
@reginaldsafety6090
@reginaldsafety6090 2 жыл бұрын
Lol, the guy who made this gun *wishes* he had a box of spare parts. It would be fascinated to see the shop this came out of. And it must have been some kind of shop, not a one-off. Otherwise why bother with the serial number and fake sight markings? This was somebody's product.
@SimuLord
@SimuLord 2 жыл бұрын
"Is it a Mauser? Is it a Vetterli?" "Is gun." "Well, yes, I know that, but what sort of gun is it?" "Is gun. Rifle gun." "OK, fine, it's just a gun. What does it fire?" "Bullet." "Black powder? Smokeless powder? What caliber?" "Bullet. It shoots bullet." "Thanks for your help."
@flyingninja1234
@flyingninja1234 2 жыл бұрын
"You buy gun?"
@steveh1792
@steveh1792 2 жыл бұрын
@@flyingninja1234 Sounds like a Cousin Harry special...
@sebastianstoltz7740
@sebastianstoltz7740 2 жыл бұрын
It's a Betterli!
@justindunlap1235
@justindunlap1235 2 жыл бұрын
@@sebastianstoltz7740 I can't believe it's not betterli.
@edusc6893
@edusc6893 2 жыл бұрын
Looks like the heavy's interview in TF2 comic
@Simon_Nonymous
@Simon_Nonymous 2 жыл бұрын
Don't let the Chap on the Range see this, it could severely upset him.
@18robsmith
@18robsmith 2 жыл бұрын
He'd probably ask "Does it strip?", or "Can I do a mad minute with it?"
@HircineDaWolf
@HircineDaWolf 2 жыл бұрын
did you just combine the Chap and Bloke on the Range into one being?
@kevlarandchrome
@kevlarandchrome 2 жыл бұрын
@@HircineDaWolf Seems like the proper place for combining things...
@christopherreed4723
@christopherreed4723 2 жыл бұрын
Minute? Possibly. Mad? Positively. Shoot? Ah, yes, quite definitely... ...not.
@johnnyappleseed6415
@johnnyappleseed6415 2 жыл бұрын
Probably a parade rifle... Kinda like "Don't attack us, behold, we have several rifles!" :))
@nobodynoone2500
@nobodynoone2500 2 жыл бұрын
* Holds terrible rifle out like a gift menacingly. *
@greycatturtle7132
@greycatturtle7132 2 жыл бұрын
XD
@magustrigger9195
@magustrigger9195 2 жыл бұрын
Couldn't be worse than Springfield being held.
@kevlarandchrome
@kevlarandchrome 2 жыл бұрын
@@nobodynoone2500 Wars have been started over lesser threats.
@kenibnanak5554
@kenibnanak5554 2 жыл бұрын
I had exactly that thought. Something you can give the new recruit you don't quite trust yet, or wave around to make folks think you actually have a rifle.
@leops1984
@leops1984 2 жыл бұрын
Who knew that Elbonia was in the arms exporting business?
@WhiskyCardinalWes
@WhiskyCardinalWes 2 жыл бұрын
Republic of Elbonia Arms gun room Cobbler Mark 1a*+
@OhioTravelswithKris
@OhioTravelswithKris 2 жыл бұрын
Morning everyone. Hey Ian.
@sparky6855
@sparky6855 2 жыл бұрын
To anyone who reads this, have a great day
@whiskeytuesday
@whiskeytuesday 2 жыл бұрын
Good morning to you sir, Ian, everyone else. Have a great day.
@petesheppard1709
@petesheppard1709 2 жыл бұрын
A whimsical part of me imagines this thing turning out to be an absolute tack driver...😎
@owllymannstein7113
@owllymannstein7113 2 жыл бұрын
Literal tacks though, using the buttplate.
@nobodynoone2500
@nobodynoone2500 2 жыл бұрын
I mean, it's a bolt-action. If he got the barrel right, that's about all it takes. The casing provides much of the seal as long as the bolt holds. The barrel consists of 4 critical dimensions: Diameter and depth of chamber (headspacing, thats 2), consistent diameter/straightness of barrel bore (barrel can be crooked as long as bored straight), and then rifling if you want to actually hit something far away (optional). You can argue about crowning all you want, but those are the big ones. It would be pretty easy and fun to expertly build a horrendous, ancient looking rifle, whose function rivaled modern offerings. Nearly all of what makes a gun function is hidden from the outside in most firearms for dirt-ingress or packaging reasons already. And yes, a literal tack-hammer shoulder stock seems appropriate.
@petesheppard1709
@petesheppard1709 2 жыл бұрын
@@owllymannstein7113 😆
@jackhacker5738
@jackhacker5738 2 жыл бұрын
@@nobodynoone2500 I really want to see, like, an assault rifle or semi-automatic battle rifle that looks exactly like a matchlock or flintlock... It would certainly take some intricate engineering but it sounds like a very fun engineering project.
@carlcarlton764
@carlcarlton764 2 жыл бұрын
You aren't an ex Marine from Alabama by any chance?
@MrGenoHydra
@MrGenoHydra 2 жыл бұрын
It's feels like whoever sold these to interarms first cobbled together as many "functional" or functional looking rifles and threw them in crates.
@mikeyjohnson9596
@mikeyjohnson9596 2 жыл бұрын
Having never known much about Ethiopian small arms, the Ethiopian Oddities series has become one of my favorites on the channel
@dougscott8161
@dougscott8161 2 жыл бұрын
It's looking like "Ethiopian" is automatically follow by "Mystery Rifle".
@tuzu1758
@tuzu1758 2 жыл бұрын
It must have worked if it still around. This was carried by someone who REALLY needed a rifle.
@SuperiorModel
@SuperiorModel 2 жыл бұрын
Or an elaborate club.
@brasstard7.627
@brasstard7.627 2 жыл бұрын
Or a blank firing rifle. There is a video of an Ethiopian Carcano that somebody ordered that was crudley converted into a blank firing training rifle
@tuzu1758
@tuzu1758 2 жыл бұрын
@@brasstard7.627 You may have hit on something. Not so much training, or maybe later. I'm thinking ceremonies. Saving the real combat ready rifles.
@FourByteBurger
@FourByteBurger 2 жыл бұрын
Gotta say,I love how creative Ethiopians poachers are getting
@FourByteBurger
@FourByteBurger 2 жыл бұрын
@Beaverish Buck Teeth just a guess,idk where tf this pile of riff raff came from
@sloth7ds
@sloth7ds 2 жыл бұрын
New Genre: Ethiopian Mysterty Rifles
@andreashabeck1155
@andreashabeck1155 2 жыл бұрын
"Is that a DMR?" "No, I said EMR"
@araknidude
@araknidude 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like there’s an alternate universe where this guy had access to much greater education and experience, and was able to make his name as a competent weapons designer or gunsmith
@AshleyPomeroy
@AshleyPomeroy 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine if he'd been born in Italy or Austria in the 1700s. He'd have a town named after him by now.
@Theduckwebcomics
@Theduckwebcomics 2 жыл бұрын
It's easier to copy stuff than design and build it from the ground up
@paulEG6
@paulEG6 2 жыл бұрын
I’ll go with probably not Chinese because it’s not a mausermausermausermauser lol
@burpengaryjosh5614
@burpengaryjosh5614 2 жыл бұрын
😂 I remember that one!!
@nobodynoone2500
@nobodynoone2500 2 жыл бұрын
yup. chinese mystery rifles usually had too many markings not none. Even the khyber pass guns usually get fake marks.
@stuartburton1167
@stuartburton1167 2 жыл бұрын
Or a mauserlugerbrowningcolt
@RadioactiveLobster
@RadioactiveLobster 2 жыл бұрын
I'm going to need this added to Hunt: Showdown immediately.
@christopherreed4723
@christopherreed4723 2 жыл бұрын
Something you find, equip because on first glance it looks infinitely superior to what you have, and then discover that it's buff is a chance to undergo RUD to a random degree whenever you fire it.
@douglaskerr6813
@douglaskerr6813 2 жыл бұрын
It looks like a accident waiting to happen it should come with warning
@alexhail9971
@alexhail9971 2 жыл бұрын
This is fascinating I love hand made one of a kind stuff like this makes me want to try my hand at it
@ihorbychkov8742
@ihorbychkov8742 2 жыл бұрын
Looks like someone at some point in time had an access to an armoury , and made this crude copy of Vetterli in order to steal a real one from a stockpile .
@13RedbloodeD13
@13RedbloodeD13 2 жыл бұрын
3:16 it uses the cartrige that you happen to have 😂
@tarstakars
@tarstakars 2 жыл бұрын
You know what someone was once thrilled to get that rifle and 20 rounds of ammunition because it meant they could now give up their sharpened bamboo Pike.
@ThePerfectRed
@ThePerfectRed 2 жыл бұрын
Gunsmith to his apprentice: "I want you to copy those four rifles for practice." Apprentice to himself: "Hey, maybe I can do it in a single run!"
@widgren87
@widgren87 2 жыл бұрын
Looks like a literally home-made replica, the kind that a decent craftsman could have made for their kids or something...
@TheOz91
@TheOz91 2 жыл бұрын
So, this looks like the Ethiopian version of a Khyber Pass gun
@jon-paulfilkins7820
@jon-paulfilkins7820 2 жыл бұрын
Can you imagine that with a fake AK or SKS Mag?
@TheOz91
@TheOz91 2 жыл бұрын
@@jon-paulfilkins7820 I'm imagining it, and it actually makes it cooler
@aldi404
@aldi404 2 жыл бұрын
Ian: "This is not even a thing." Rifle: T_T
@BigBadBalrog
@BigBadBalrog 2 жыл бұрын
I couldn't really pinpoint an exact reason why, but I feel like if Tommy Wiseau designed a rifle it would be this one
@TammoKorsai
@TammoKorsai 2 жыл бұрын
Oh hi, marksmanship!
@rich7787
@rich7787 2 жыл бұрын
What a story!
@kfeltenberger
@kfeltenberger 2 жыл бұрын
This is one of those times when I wish guns could talk (or we had a magic-user to cast Legend Lore on it!)...I bet this has an amazing story to tell.
@tulipalll
@tulipalll 2 жыл бұрын
I can't even imagine!
@someweirdguyew9757
@someweirdguyew9757 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. The thing that always gets me is how they're weirdo composite designs even in cosmetic details. If you're copying what you have I'd think you'd copy all of it. If you're copying something high status you'd at least not copy something obviously different. If you just want An Gun I'd think you wouldn't bother with cosmetics at all. Something very specific happened, but what?
@Gregiorp
@Gregiorp 2 жыл бұрын
Could you imagine if someone ordered a Vetterli from RTI and got this thing.
@patrickseaman
@patrickseaman 2 жыл бұрын
Future Forgotten Weapons: Ian uses a mass spectrometer and other gear to examine the metallurgy in order to deduce where the parts originated based on trace elements and a tracking database of exemplar barrels, bands, receiver parts, etc. Similarly, he determines that the stock came from country A, but the wood plugs came from country B.... ;-)
@HinrikS
@HinrikS 2 жыл бұрын
*identifying wood meme* Was my first thought. If people can reliably tell what the wood is, or from what subspecies or local variant it is, we'd be somewhere.
@mcqueenfanman
@mcqueenfanman 2 жыл бұрын
I remember reading The Sand Pebbles and there was a part where Jake was handed a rifle to stand guard on a boat going up the Yalu River. He said he wasn't sure how it worked.
@markfergerson2145
@markfergerson2145 2 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of the Johnny Cash song "One Piece At A Time" except with gun parts, and some handcrafting to fill in parts the maker couldn't get hold of.
@andrewtetz2198
@andrewtetz2198 2 жыл бұрын
I love these oddities, they are so interesting to look at but sometimes kinda painful to look at from an basic engineering/gunsmithing point of view.
@Damnedlegion40k
@Damnedlegion40k 2 жыл бұрын
Funny how he dry fires the rifle repeatedly when it's a piece of crap, but not whenever it's a halfway decent rifle. Kia kaha, stay strong.
@rodlepine233
@rodlepine233 2 жыл бұрын
why bugger up a firing pin on a decent rifle? when you have a wall-hanger of questionable origin ?
@FumbleSquid
@FumbleSquid 2 жыл бұрын
@@rodlepine233 You mean a *'home defense' rifle of questionable origin.
@Garrumx
@Garrumx 2 жыл бұрын
@@rodlepine233 If dry firing if messing up your firing pin, your rifle is either not decent, or is ancient and super valuable.
@timbaskett6299
@timbaskett6299 2 жыл бұрын
While watching this I have an interesting "study" concept.....Inspired by the What Would Stoner Do idea, and maybe even What Would Kalishnikov Do.......and It is "What Would Mauser Do. Think a Mauser inspired "Practical Bolt Action Rifle". My thoughts would be an intermediate caliber(probably a relatively large bore 6.5, 7, 7.62 or 8.59mm), short barrel (
@chillmonkey6782
@chillmonkey6782 2 жыл бұрын
I'll bet you there was a bayonet that just got lost at some point in time. I think anyone smart enough to build that rifle by hand could also make a matching bayonet to go on the lug
@John1911
@John1911 2 жыл бұрын
Dude. That’s nuts!
@williamgrace6966
@williamgrace6966 2 жыл бұрын
Most of the comments already here seem to be in agreeance of this: it's starting to look like Ethiopian Mystery Rifles are totally a thing, and "someone" should probably write a book or something...
@ironhead2008
@ironhead2008 2 жыл бұрын
It might be chambered in 7.65 Mauser, judging by the magazine. A rimmed cartridge would have more of a curve I think.
@cyrhyllpusta5575
@cyrhyllpusta5575 2 жыл бұрын
Guns like these are perfect for alternatehistory shows
@88njtrigg88
@88njtrigg88 2 жыл бұрын
To think l was hoping this was going to get better... well that's what made it a good video.
@tacticalmanatee
@tacticalmanatee 2 жыл бұрын
looks like the receiver had a squared off part in the back of the ejection port at some point, maybe an attempt at a stripper clip guide?
@WhitePaw80
@WhitePaw80 2 жыл бұрын
I’d love to see the rifling in this junker of a rifle. If it even has any…
@Stormseer88
@Stormseer88 2 жыл бұрын
An interesting gun to be sure! Oh what stories it could till....
@itsapittie
@itsapittie 2 жыл бұрын
It's entirely possible that someone had a bunch of unrelated parts and resolved to put them together into something that could be used.
@TuomoKalliokoski
@TuomoKalliokoski 2 жыл бұрын
Identifying the wood used might give some information on the origin. So would the isotope analysis of the metal parts. (My bet would be that most of them wouldn't match to each others...)
@joaquinvelasquez6252
@joaquinvelasquez6252 2 жыл бұрын
First mention of the rifle. "This is not even a thing."
@gordonoliverez5504
@gordonoliverez5504 2 жыл бұрын
“Fake it till you make it “
@mrpinekone2368
@mrpinekone2368 2 жыл бұрын
I love how he calls it "this..thing.."
@biggerbehindthetrigger2814
@biggerbehindthetrigger2814 2 жыл бұрын
WOW that thing looks like a trip to the hospital in ambulance
@biggerbehindthetrigger2814
@biggerbehindthetrigger2814 2 жыл бұрын
Someone built that one in a cave with crude tools. I have seen videos of guys building fake Ak's and 1911's and they look really good but I wouldn't trust them in a heartbeat. The metal could have been a blown up truck at one point
@LordRalphingtonPukesmythe
@LordRalphingtonPukesmythe 2 жыл бұрын
I mean if it was originally chambered in 10.4mm I can see why they would want to change it over to something they had. Maybe it's a bunch of parts someone had lying around and just cobbled together?
@kenibnanak5554
@kenibnanak5554 2 жыл бұрын
If I made that in my basement with hand tools I would be pretty proud of myself. Even more so if it actually worked. I was hoping you would disassemble the bolt so we could learn if the safety is actually just broken, or was it truly non-functional? Regarding the caliber, with the understanding it might not actually be in any caliber and just created to make someone think it is a gun, cerrosafe the chamber. Who knows, maybe it is .300 Savage or .30 Remington, won't know till a casting is taken. Does the bolt even have a firing pin?
@dougscott8161
@dougscott8161 2 жыл бұрын
Oh, My God!, I forgot about the firing pin.
@mattelder1971
@mattelder1971 2 жыл бұрын
Almost reminds me of something from the Kyber Pass area.
@kirksealls1912
@kirksealls1912 2 жыл бұрын
That definitely qualifies as a “forgotten weapon”
@660einzylinder
@660einzylinder 2 жыл бұрын
Probably forgotten with good reason...
@NielMalan
@NielMalan 2 жыл бұрын
It would be interesting to hear what a wood expert would say about the kind of wood that the stock is made of.
@discerningscoundrel3055
@discerningscoundrel3055 2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately it can be pretty hard to tell under a finish. Some woods are very distinctive, but there's quite a few mid-orangey-brown hardwoods with tight, not very pronounced grain growing in Africa, India, China and so on.
@NielMalan
@NielMalan 2 жыл бұрын
@@discerningscoundrel3055 One might be able to take an unobtrusive sample for microscopic analysis by a botanist. Perhaps from under the butt plate.
@r3hawk
@r3hawk 2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing. If we knew where the wood came from it might narrow down where the rifle was made.
@sharonrigs7999
@sharonrigs7999 2 жыл бұрын
8x52R/x50R maybe? If I choose any superpower, it would be the ability it put my hands on any milsurp and see it's life story
@tiegertanz
@tiegertanz 2 жыл бұрын
Wauser pistols and Vauser rifles; Exploring what could have been
@duaneperkins8329
@duaneperkins8329 2 жыл бұрын
Great episode...the Ethiopia rifles are so interesting. Can you please do a episode on a Italian Vetterli Model 1870/87/15 from Ethiopia (the Carcano 6.5 caliber)? You've never done a 1870/87/15 episode and I would love to get the history about the rifle and how they ended up getting to Ethiopia.
@dustyak79
@dustyak79 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe some gun enthusiast scientist will offer his services and examine a wood sample and determine the type of tree used for the stock might narrow things down a little.
@thelaughinghyenas8465
@thelaughinghyenas8465 2 жыл бұрын
Did you take the stock off? I know we had those mystery screws, but it might tell a lot more by what's under there.
@jeffroth1731
@jeffroth1731 2 жыл бұрын
So this is like a multi-caliber rifle. With a equal opportunity to explode with all of the calibers.
@andersjjensen
@andersjjensen 2 жыл бұрын
That gun is like my cooking. It's not really anything, yet sorta a bit of everything.
@mcqueenfanman
@mcqueenfanman 2 жыл бұрын
Whats the locking system? The bolt handle & stock?
@robertsmith4681
@robertsmith4681 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder what kind of funky proof markings lay under the wood, if any.
@mosquitomkv3487
@mosquitomkv3487 2 жыл бұрын
When you want to make a fire truck but the front is Legos and the back is Tyco Super Blox.
@burpengaryjosh5614
@burpengaryjosh5614 2 жыл бұрын
For some reason, I love these handcrafted "firearms"..😄💥
@xxxggthyf
@xxxggthyf 2 жыл бұрын
Me too. Nearly as much as I like the "What the hell were they thinking?" failures.
@FLVCTVAT_NEC_MERGITVR
@FLVCTVAT_NEC_MERGITVR 2 жыл бұрын
Front sight protector and front end look to be patterned off the Polish wz 29.
@stefanmolnapor910
@stefanmolnapor910 2 жыл бұрын
Wauser! What a unique firearm!
@MrWhatdoyouthinkof
@MrWhatdoyouthinkof 2 жыл бұрын
This may have been the first gun made by Bear Creek Arsenal .
@vietzscheallagard2129
@vietzscheallagard2129 2 жыл бұрын
Keeping in line with Ethiopia's weird and bizarre gun history.
@aborted4196
@aborted4196 2 жыл бұрын
Apparently the world does run on Dunkin...
@actually_a_circle
@actually_a_circle 2 жыл бұрын
4:59 I have a feeling "standard" was not in this man's vocabulary
@bobthompson4319
@bobthompson4319 2 жыл бұрын
I think the safety thing might work like the nagant and have to be pulled back then turned.
@RavetsU
@RavetsU 2 жыл бұрын
These rifles must be from another dimension.
@tmurdoch2
@tmurdoch2 2 жыл бұрын
In terms of odd ways that rifles travel. My mosin nagant was made in Russia in 1943. Finished the war. Re-arsenaled in the mid 60's near as I can figure. Was crated till the USSR fell. Sold to the American importer. Uncrated. Cleaned and marked with a new serial number and importer mark. Put back in a different crate. Shipped to Australia. Then sold to me on the opposite side of the country some time later. It's been some places. So I wouldn't be surprised if that was a Chinese knock off that somehow got thrown in with an order headed for Ethiopia
@rickardjames1319
@rickardjames1319 2 жыл бұрын
This is the Mauser we "have back home."
@aidanfarnan4683
@aidanfarnan4683 2 жыл бұрын
So you're saying the groves on a Mauser Bayonet lug are Deep and Crisp and Even? I suddenly feel Christmassy.
@SimuLord
@SimuLord 2 жыл бұрын
🎶Good king Khyber Pass looked out After shooting Stephen Where the grooves were roundabout Deep and crisp and even🎶
@skasteve6528
@skasteve6528 2 жыл бұрын
@@SimuLord🎼 We three guns from Addis Ababa Made from parts found in a bazaar Most of the metal Could do with a fettle and the bullets don't travel that far.🎶
@SimuLord
@SimuLord 2 жыл бұрын
@@skasteve6528 🎶You better watch out Then you better duck Take care on the range or you're outta luck Bubba Claus is comin' to town He's got an AK He's makin' a change Gonna launch the gas block assembly downrange Bubba Claus is comin' to town🎶
@PershingDragoon
@PershingDragoon 2 жыл бұрын
So... Ethiopian Bubba decided to build his own Mauser by hand, out of whatever parts he could scrounge up, with only a bunch of catalog pictures for reference. The result is honestly impressive.
@TheDanCarr
@TheDanCarr 2 жыл бұрын
I would love to see it fire a round, just to see if it could
@bigmikeh5827
@bigmikeh5827 2 жыл бұрын
Looks like a Bannerman special
@JamesThomas-gg6il
@JamesThomas-gg6il 2 жыл бұрын
Is there any connection to Bannerman or the Elbownians?
@AsbestosMuffins
@AsbestosMuffins 2 жыл бұрын
This was clearly a WWauser 3319/¿& production rifle exported to ethiopia
@Mystickneon
@Mystickneon 2 жыл бұрын
What an oddball!
@hase99
@hase99 2 жыл бұрын
A chimera of weapons.
@MerrimanDevonshire
@MerrimanDevonshire 2 жыл бұрын
So... a new book in process of being written?
@nottology
@nottology 2 жыл бұрын
As an ethiopian who is a descendant from soldiers in that period to explain for future videos warriors/ soldier’s preferred to shoot at close ranges like 50 yrs or less to make sure u got a clean shot and that it was a kill to conserve ammo cuz good ammo was so precious that it was used a currency a lot of the time so thats why they removed sights as such groups tended to prefer to soften up target with several rounds into a group of enemies then sling their various rifles on their backs to go in for the kill and preceded to go with melee weapons for 3 reasons 1 ease of using them 2 confirming the kill 3 to mutilate ur enemy preferably alive and bring back severed body parts as war trophies ( usually castration ) to brag to their families and communities that they were a really solider and not a “soft heart coward who was sitting around being lazy weak like a woman “
@MisterOcclusion
@MisterOcclusion 2 жыл бұрын
Is it an ostensibly functional firearm, or could it just be a toy, or replica made for play/display? The back sight is so cargo cult that I cannot imagine anyone who knew the remotest thing about firearms building something like that as a functional part.
@schutzanzug4518
@schutzanzug4518 2 жыл бұрын
Wow some guns can have such stories
@011CJ
@011CJ Жыл бұрын
Ok this is really cool this is the kind of thing that interests me about these Ethiopian rifles. It kinda reminds me of the savage model 40 super Sporter 30-06 🤣
@VikOlliver
@VikOlliver 2 жыл бұрын
I think there was an Ethiopian working in the armoury whose hobby was making frankenrifles!
@ragnargardarsson6400
@ragnargardarsson6400 2 жыл бұрын
Any cartridges with mud as gunpowder in the crates? If so I guess this must be some Elbonian surplus.
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