Everything You Need to Know About a Deutz Air-Cooled Diesel

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Deutz Allis in the shop for a valve set, let's go over it while it's here.
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@Maus46
@Maus46 5 жыл бұрын
Absolutely bulletproof engines. When I was in the army, all the old generators had those engines. Their super loud but ran forever.
@KrisDouglas
@KrisDouglas 5 жыл бұрын
And they sound godlike when they rev up.
@Danger_mouse
@Danger_mouse 5 жыл бұрын
Definitely far from bullet proof, broken head studs and the resultant blown blast ring on the cylinder head kept our local repairer in money 💵 Glad they do not use them any more in the mining machinery we run.
@hihaveaniceday9386
@hihaveaniceday9386 5 жыл бұрын
Had some rollers out in the field with those engines total pos
@dieselgeezer18
@dieselgeezer18 4 жыл бұрын
@@Danger_mouse hahahh nice joke. I got a 50 year old Deutz tractor and the engine still purrs like a kitten. Its been abused really bad and its still working.
@Danger_mouse
@Danger_mouse 3 жыл бұрын
@Frauenarzt Dr. Stefan Frank The ones we had were in underground mining. It was a case of the wrong application, hot environment not suitable for air cooling and very salty underground water corroding the head studs off and frequently blowing blast rings I'm sure in a nice cold country, on the surface and cleaned well, they'd last a lot longer. They are very very basic, so not much to go wrong.
@mathewmerkl576
@mathewmerkl576 5 жыл бұрын
With the deutz numbers B- means its turbocharged F- means its in a mobile vehicle 6- number of cylinders L- means its aircooled (luftgekult) 9- series of engine 13- the stroke of engine in millimeters (130mm) :)
@Apexistant
@Apexistant 5 жыл бұрын
isnt the stroke in centimeters then?
@mathewmerkl576
@mathewmerkl576 5 жыл бұрын
Yea i guess those numbers would mean centimeters but the stroke is measured in millimeters
@k.m.h.1346
@k.m.h.1346 5 жыл бұрын
Luftgekühlt!
@larsloschwitz9448
@larsloschwitz9448 5 жыл бұрын
A instead of F means, it's a multifuel motor. They are built with a little bigger gap between the piston and the cylinder liner, so they can operate at higher work temperatures. Only downside is an increased fuel consuption. They can run with vegetable oil, or even mixtures of alcohol and oil, as long as the viscosity of the mixture is close to that of regular diesel fuel. I just love those aircooled Deutz motors. They are there for you, whenever you need them. No Electronics, so they would even still be usable after an EMP-Strike. The supply of spare parts is nearly infinite and all the part lists and repair manuals are publicly available, so you can fix everything by yourself, provided you have a minimum skill in the use of the required tools.
@invertedv12powerhouse77
@invertedv12powerhouse77 5 жыл бұрын
@@larsloschwitz9448 these engines are great swaps for that reason with old tractors. We had a bunch of skidders (timberjacks and tree farmers) with the 353/453 swapped out for a deutz 6 cylinder
@freakyRunner
@freakyRunner 5 жыл бұрын
A few years back i was in the Deutz Museum in Cologne Deutz , very cool place to visit. I have to go there again in the future, its only 100km away from my place. Greetings from Germany 🇩🇪
@cudwieser3952
@cudwieser3952 5 жыл бұрын
Another reason for the legendary status of a Deutz engine is because the company was founded by Nikolaus Otto, originator of the 4 stroke engine. The engines are the originators and a century of work really stands for something.
@rick62465
@rick62465 5 жыл бұрын
I still run 4 of them. A f4l913 a f4l912 and 2 f3l912's. They always start and never have any problems. Awesome engines.
@rhtplantservices3300
@rhtplantservices3300 5 жыл бұрын
One of the best diesel engines ever made absolutely bomb proof and use hardly any fuel
@DEBOSSGARAGE
@DEBOSSGARAGE 5 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately I didn't get to meet up with a guy who stuffed a 3 cyl into a Ford Ranger at one of the conventions I was at. I think he was getting mid 40 mpg
@rhtplantservices3300
@rhtplantservices3300 5 жыл бұрын
Is it adam pavick? that guy has some skill
@Alejandro-vb2fx
@Alejandro-vb2fx 5 жыл бұрын
Far from bomb proof, constant overheating issues, broken head studs all the time and it seems as if all old air cooled diesels are allergic to any type of real hard work.
@farmerbarnaby3844
@farmerbarnaby3844 4 жыл бұрын
Stop bullcraping. These air cooled Deutz engines are superior. I've got a Deutz d30s with the F2L812, had it since 2008, nothing has gone wrong with it. The hour meter wasn't working when I bought it, and it still doesn't to this day, yet it displays over 5000 hours. Could be over 15000 hours as the hour meter only has 5 digits. You can leave it sit for over 3 years and it'll start right up (talking by experience). A local farmer also has an older Deutz with the F4L913, he leaves it in a field opposite my house during the summer so he doesn't have to drive 2 hours to cut the hay (his farm is about 17 kms away). I decided to peak at the hour meter in the cab; 9800 hours. Once again could be 19800 hours, as the hour meter is only 5 digits. All this to say that Deutz air cooled engines are awsome. You would have to seriously abuse them to overheat, or break anything on them. An engine is as good as you make it.
@ferguson20diesel49
@ferguson20diesel49 4 жыл бұрын
Farmer Barnaby superior engine the poclain 1000 had 2 v12 roaring in it day in day out. Seen lots of deutz tractors with over 30;000 hrs
@patrickwelch6377
@patrickwelch6377 4 жыл бұрын
Loved the Deutz engines, when I was running a rental yard for a pump company the air cooled deutz diesel had the least issues, fastest to fix and simple to diagnose unlike all the CAT and John Deere ones we had
@marcV8diesel
@marcV8diesel 5 жыл бұрын
My neighbour runs a Deutz combine (M36.30) from about 1985, with a BF6L913 engine. Started it up after about 10 months and started right up. Great engine, doesnt smoke and doesnt use oil. Runs and pulls great after almost 40 years.
@marcusgault9909
@marcusgault9909 5 жыл бұрын
Dad bought a M88 Deutz way back about 1968, with a 4 pot diesel. Easy started and frugal on fuel BUT VERY NOISY.
@marcV8diesel
@marcV8diesel 5 жыл бұрын
@@marcusgault9909 yes indeed the aircooled engines are very noisy
@georgedoorley5628
@georgedoorley5628 4 жыл бұрын
engine is the best part of those combines .............
@larrygingerich2585
@larrygingerich2585 3 жыл бұрын
You need to gap the valves, lack of maintenance!!
@rokoplesa7774
@rokoplesa7774 Жыл бұрын
36.30 have bf6l913c which mean its intercooler
@sscottphillips1973
@sscottphillips1973 5 жыл бұрын
Always a good joke with new mechanics in our shop is to go check the coolant on the m88 recovery tank, has a continental air cooled v12.
@bryanmartinez6600
@bryanmartinez6600 5 жыл бұрын
Even I know there are air cooled tanks but is the air cooled Engine reliable?
@garethifan1034
@garethifan1034 5 жыл бұрын
@@bryanmartinez6600 100% - more fuel efficient, more reliable-less to go wrong - no freezing in winter etc etc and sound great with a double chop forager in heavy grass!
@Alejandro-vb2fx
@Alejandro-vb2fx 5 жыл бұрын
@@garethifan1034 Very unreliable in dusty situations, so it's basically useless in the midwestern states of the US and even more useless in the west.
@horseblinderson4747
@horseblinderson4747 5 жыл бұрын
They're ok they're Hemmit wrecker though.
@JBOGermany
@JBOGermany 4 жыл бұрын
My Dad did that joke on 1 april to a mechanic "hey! Can you check the coolant?!?" The mechanic try to find the radiator! After few minutes he realised it was a Deutz D15 tractor with brass letters on its hood "luftgekühlt" (air cooled)
@goliathprojects7354
@goliathprojects7354 3 жыл бұрын
I own a Deutz D6006 wich runs on the F4L912 engine. It's really time I learn something about it, cause dad is now gone and I don't want this wonderful machine to die as well. It deserves to be taken care of.
@autobootpiloot
@autobootpiloot 5 жыл бұрын
Deutz: founded by mr Otto, the guy who invented the combustion engine as we know it today.
@alexveldhuis6004
@alexveldhuis6004 5 жыл бұрын
Ja, Meneer 4 tact. (Mr 4 stroke)
@larrygingerich2585
@larrygingerich2585 3 жыл бұрын
Yep, that's true. . . and yet many other manufacturers don't want give credit where credit is due! Back in the 80's Deere wanted to buy Deutz, guess what ? They discovered Deutz was Big Brother so to speak. KHD was building engines that Deere wasn't into and KHD "Deutz" was a lot bigger engine company than Deere, lol, lol. . .
@vadokunvot
@vadokunvot 3 жыл бұрын
I have a 1980 Deutz D7206, I love it, its strong, it allways start, it has never let me down.
@JimNichols
@JimNichols 3 жыл бұрын
1970 Deutz 8080 bought it for 800 bucks, new tires, new rear gear reduction seals, new rear brakes and this was a beast of a maching. Small farms in East Tn didn't need these huge machines (huge for the day) and this one came from the big farms in west Tn. I used it to pull an old 10 ft flailditioner that weighed what a Panzer tank weighed and gobbled all the HP you could send it. I miss those 400 bale of hay by yourself days sometimes. Great videos, lots of trouble to record, edit and produce sir and I appreciate it. And that acid sense of humor, man this I miss the most, folks like you I share some commonality with. Thank you man.
@darcybowyer5743
@darcybowyer5743 4 жыл бұрын
Even down here in Australia farmers still use these old school Deutz aircooled tractors, bulletproof and simple. If every manufacturer followed the KISS principle everything would be perfect!
@ridingwiththereids
@ridingwiththereids 5 жыл бұрын
So I'm 31 now....when I was 12ish I remember opening one of the barn doors at my grandparents house in Michigan (Im from Alaska) and seeing one of these!! Holy shit I havent seen one since!! I just remember my dad telling me it was some Deutsch farm tractor and that's all he knew. I loved it because it was 4x4 and we could take it down the muddy trails. Plus at the time it was like new and had AC!! Awesome video Rich 👍👌
@acemobile9806
@acemobile9806 4 жыл бұрын
In airport circles, 912 series made a name for itself in the Vestergard de-ice trucks. I was a mechanic for Delta & personally I loved those engines. Always started in about half a turn rotation no matter what or how cold it was. We changed oil & threw an air filter & a belt on them once a season, I can't recall ever adjusting valves or anything else. The very definition of reliability. It was nothing to see them roll the hourmeter over 5 or 6 times. Equipment would be worn out, rusted & sold off long before the engine was done. The 1011 & 1012 series that followed were maybe not ultimately as reliable but they have several things going for them also. I know many make fun of the 1011 for having a timing belt but honestly it's super simple to change, doesn't destroy the engine if it pops (need new pushrods, nothing else) & I've seen beltloaders go over 5000 hrs without having the belt touched. It has the advantage of basically being impossible to overheat due to the oil cooling. 1012 6cyls have a distinctive bark all their own, much like Perkins has its own sound. I'd recognize them a mile away, torquey sob's. Never any trouble as long as the ramp rats kept oil in them. We also had 2015 V8s in the air start carts & some of the Goldhofer jet tugs. Physically a huge engine but thunders away like a Scania at full tilt. Power of God, always wanted to see how one would drive in a highway truck. Also got a cool inline P-pump that would be awesome sitting in the valley of a 7.3. I miss those days. Now with the dpf junk, probably isn't any fun to work on any of it.
@johnbondza
@johnbondza 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks - nostalgia! You could always hear the tappets long before you could hear the motor.or see the truck. We had the V8 in our military vehicles. Not much water in Southern Africa. There are stories, possibly true of loosing a cylinder to enemy fire. The mechanics apparently removed the con rod. Covered the crank case hole with gasket material. Drove the loaded vehicles in one case 100km home. Plenty of vibration. The motors revved out at something ridiculous possibly 3200 rpm but huge torque. As good and in some cases better than our small Mogs (MB Unimog)..
@lawnmowermanlawnmowerman9930
@lawnmowermanlawnmowerman9930 5 жыл бұрын
I worked at an AG-Allis dealership for 10 years as a mechanic when these tractors were what we sold,they were much stronger than the equivalent size John Deere and most other competitor brands at that time and they are the easiest diesel engine to repair that I have ever worked on. And you are correct that they were extremely durable and still are too.
@MrMopar413
@MrMopar413 5 жыл бұрын
I worked and now retired for Wagner Mining Equipment co, Portland Oregon now owned by Atlas Copco of Sweden as a diesel mechanic we used a lot of Deutz Diesel engines . That 6 cylinder we used in our 2yard machine. We also used V6, V8, V10 and V12 . We would also install altitude comp kits which where turbocharged engines going to mines basically in South America that where at 6000 Feet elevation. Also we had special hydraulic oil coolers that bolted on top of the V-engines. They are good engines like everything else properly maintained and change the oil they run for a long time. I don’t know if they still make them but one thing is for sure they are widely used outside the U S around the world and parts are readily available for them.
@Izrealeu
@Izrealeu 5 жыл бұрын
Love them, we run a Fendt 380 GT with similar engine here in Lithuania for snow cleaning duty. In 20 years nothing but a bit of oil and a belt.
@Knallteute
@Knallteute 4 жыл бұрын
Izrealeu yeah i love them. The gts are great for loading hay.
@gregculverwell
@gregculverwell 5 жыл бұрын
Love Deutz aircooled engines. Very tough. Decades ago I was driving a truck with a FL914 (12l 232hp v8) when I had a runaway down a long steep hill. The tacho went around the dial and Back to 600 on the other side. The only damage was that the rockers smashed through the covers, so the engine was covered in oil (easily fixed with some braizing). One thing I thought was very cool was that it used a centrifugal separator built into the fan hub instead of an oil filter. Seemed to work very well - would take out a 5mm layer of black rubbery material at each service.
@Hakkeholt
@Hakkeholt 3 жыл бұрын
Must be Magirus or Iveco, guess that'd be and f8l513 or something like that (there's no 914), these v8 and v10 v12 are quite impressive engines.
@gregculverwell
@gregculverwell 3 жыл бұрын
@@Hakkeholt there is a 914 engine (inline not vee) I confused it with a tractor in my life. It was actually a f8l413. The trucks full of name was Magirus Deutz 232 6x6. Later the name changed to Iveco.
@larrygingerich2585
@larrygingerich2585 3 жыл бұрын
There is an option for using engine oil for cabin heating, which utilized a valve attached to the exhaust manifold, heat caused the valve to open, allowing oil to flow to the fluid / oil clutch on the cooling fan. This enabled heat to be optained for the cab of a tractor or a truck. This is not a centrifugal filter for oil, but it is a centrifugal / fluid drive for the cooling fan.
@larrygingerich2585
@larrygingerich2585 3 жыл бұрын
The 208, 210, 211, 413, 510, 512, 610, 611, 812, 912, 913, 924 series are "air cooled engines" and I believe there are a couple more. Then there are Deutz "oil cooled" engine series such as the 2010, 2011, 2012, and more that are set up with or without an oil radiator etc. Also on the 413,812,912,93,914 engines, inside the cooling plenum of the engine is an oil cooler for the engine oil. 2 cyl and 3cyl engines have a tube with fins whereas the 4cyl, 5cyl, 6cyl and v-engines have block type oil coolers in the cooling plenum.
@zulugordon8680
@zulugordon8680 6 ай бұрын
In the late 70s there were V8 & V10 engines with the 914 engine. The V8 was rated At 230 HP. Great engine & had lowdown torque. Most of them had oil pressure driven fans that also acted as a oil centrifuge to collect the carbon soot from the oil. I think they also had a normal oil filter as well. Did my apprenticeship on them , Leyland & Landrover.
@jonbarfield4915
@jonbarfield4915 5 жыл бұрын
This engines are used heavily in Ditch Witch and Genie man lift. I worked for a rental store and they had many of them.
@mechanicallyinclinedthough4586
@mechanicallyinclinedthough4586 5 жыл бұрын
jon Barfield we’ve got two ditch witch rock saws with them In them both a 5110 and a 6510 and you will not stall the motor on either Of them you’ll just break something due to the torque
@Spark244
@Spark244 5 жыл бұрын
We're still having an old Deutz D50.1S (F4L812) running and performing real work almost every day since 1964. The 9.999 working-hour counter already went around 2 or 3 times. Never seen a tractor so reliable in my entire life. Absolutely love the thing.
@Cro_man_
@Cro_man_ 2 жыл бұрын
Dang same here My family had an deutz D40.1S even earlier it was in my family over 60 years it was a beast
@Erd_Geschoss
@Erd_Geschoss 5 жыл бұрын
The cylinders can be used with some modification on VW 1600 engines to get bigger bore. The 912 and 913 engines are still around plentiful in farm and construction equipment here in Germany.
@nicovmods
@nicovmods 5 жыл бұрын
i didn't know that, thanks :D
@Not_Loading
@Not_Loading 2 жыл бұрын
I work in a diesel shop building diesel generators and we deal a ton with Deutz offroad diesel engines. Absolutely love them
@mikestrucks
@mikestrucks 5 жыл бұрын
Nice video 👍🏻 I used to have a old bobcat with a 2cyl Deutz engine.. never ever any issues 💪🏻
@mallry1
@mallry1 5 жыл бұрын
We also had a old clark 721 with the 2cyl air cooled engine that was a nice old skid steer
@MrTheHillfolk
@MrTheHillfolk 5 жыл бұрын
Lol i have a 612 deutz allis. Dont laugh too much, its got a 30hp briggs swapped on it.
@menopassini7560
@menopassini7560 5 жыл бұрын
@@mallry1 Me too. Ran and Ran until a Dummy mechanic worked on it.
@victor-emmanuel7485
@victor-emmanuel7485 5 жыл бұрын
I have one as well, great machine!
@mikestrucks
@mikestrucks 5 жыл бұрын
Verdi yep ! And easy to service....👍🏻
@zachgunnink6136
@zachgunnink6136 5 жыл бұрын
From my experience they are excellent on fuel also. Years back I have a 2 cyl deutz bobcat ( 731 Maybe?). Would run like a 1/4 gallon per hour in regular use. Now I have an 873 bobcat and an S220 bobcat. The 873 (Duetz) seems to be nearly twice as efficient as the 220 (Kubota). Both good units but cant beat that duetz for fuel efficiency. great video.
@sharkeyist
@sharkeyist 5 жыл бұрын
I know a 3cyl in a late 80’s forklift, it only stopped moving when the combustion became external! A set of gaskets, glow plugs, inj’s a clean n set later and it clatters into life on a daily basis.
@goudguppy
@goudguppy 4 жыл бұрын
At home we have a 3 cilinder air-cooled Fendt Farmer 1D and even when it's 35 degrees with hard work he is able to keep the engine around the normal running temperature. I love that thing so much amazing tractor.
@karllangner1579
@karllangner1579 2 жыл бұрын
I;m using a Deutz 3 cyl aircooled tracktor from 1984 ( F3 L 912 ) and never had to clean the fan or cylinder fins. The best engine on the farm ! I'm also using a Deutz ( Samil 20 ) Military truck with the F6 L 913 Motor. 6 cyl.
@zachyoung4651
@zachyoung4651 4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely the very best Diesel engine ever made ! Love them
@colbypurkeypile9274
@colbypurkeypile9274 5 жыл бұрын
Got the same 6 cylinder on a water pump. Cold blooded but man it’s reliable! And easy to work on. The one thing made in Germany not over designed.
@426hemicuda1090
@426hemicuda1090 5 жыл бұрын
We had Deutz tractors on the nursery I worked at in the late 80's Loved them
@tijshargeerds1902
@tijshargeerds1902 4 жыл бұрын
I have a deutz myself when you need it it Will be always there for you
@ChuCk230e
@ChuCk230e 5 жыл бұрын
My dad still has the d100-06 he bought new in 1976. Almost 10k hours of hard use and keeps going. Engine needs a rebuild but for what it's saved us in reliability and fuel economy it will pay for itself in no time
@irwinmccook7942
@irwinmccook7942 5 жыл бұрын
Great engines!! I've worked on these Deutz engines for around 20 years now & I think they're pretty hard to beat!! Great video!!
@whiterosemotors9026
@whiterosemotors9026 5 жыл бұрын
Classic deboss video. Love it!!!
@hartsockthomson3334
@hartsockthomson3334 5 жыл бұрын
Exactly. I realy missed these kind of videos! The tour was amazing but nothing like servicing tracktors!
@nicovmods
@nicovmods 5 жыл бұрын
we have 2 deutz tractors with F6L913's absolutely bulletproof, and overhauling is easy on them
@MrTheHillfolk
@MrTheHillfolk 5 жыл бұрын
I like the part of setting the liner heights, its a little tedious but rewarding. Lots of disassembly and reassembly, this aint no chevy.
@PistonShack
@PistonShack 3 жыл бұрын
We have Deutz air cooled engines on Terex articulated frame dump trucks. So far they are fantastic low maintenance units. Thanks for interesting video.
@PeterIJmker
@PeterIJmker 4 жыл бұрын
I worked white the Deutz 130. I love it. Very powerful tractor
@punkinhed81
@punkinhed81 5 жыл бұрын
My tractor has a 4 cyl 914 series. its a 2006 agroplus 80 some of last air cooled. 07 or 08 they went to liquid cooled to deal with emmisions. Runs cool and super easy on fuel!!
@jonassturm2787
@jonassturm2787 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I have an F4L 912 H in an old Deutz Intrac 2003 here in Germany. Thanks for the cool content.
@larsloschwitz9448
@larsloschwitz9448 5 жыл бұрын
Even here in germany, those Intrac implement carriers are quite rare. I don't see those "runaway greenhouses" very often...
@lukahierl9857
@lukahierl9857 3 жыл бұрын
I had the joy of changing the oil feed line to the injection pump in an Intrak 6.60. Not fun at all because the banyo bolt is on the back side of the pump.
@CJ-mh6yn
@CJ-mh6yn 5 жыл бұрын
Phenomenal engines. I have been running Deutz tractors for years.
@Triplex5014
@Triplex5014 5 жыл бұрын
Germans loved to build air-cooled diesels. I have a tractor, Guldner A3K from 1961, 3 cylinder, 25HP, air-cooled, little machine that's robust as hell. Deutz air-cooled engines were found in old school trucks such as Magirus-Deutz, TAM (Slovenian, ex. Yugoslavian truck manufacturer) and even some buses. Croatian former Torpedo factory produced licenced tractors from Deutz 06 series and some other models; example Torpedo 9006 is a 90HP, 6 cylinder, air-cooled tractor, very reliable and robust.
@firemedicseven
@firemedicseven 4 жыл бұрын
We have 5 Deutz motors that we use. Two tractors and 3 six cylinder industrial units on deep wells. Very good motors. We don't run the tractors anymore but still run the pump motors.
@shizzle5150
@shizzle5150 5 жыл бұрын
Funny story... My father was a cutting tool engineer for TRW and later RTW. I used to ride along with him on his calls. I remember pulling up to the Deutz plant in independence Kansas. I remember saying as a jerk 8 year old... "dad, this is just farm equipment... when can we see something cool?" His response... "Son, these people build one hell of an engine and while it might not seem cool, running for a long time is pretty cool."
@finleybeck6657
@finleybeck6657 5 жыл бұрын
i have an deutz d 6006 built in 1968 runs still perfect
@axkoula7851
@axkoula7851 4 жыл бұрын
I ground my teeth on an old Magirus dump truck with a V10 Deutz. The blower was oil controlled, and when it got warm it did its best impression of a jet engine sound. Plus, it acted as a centrifugal oil cleaner, pretty well thought out. It was a nice soundtrack, the Deutz with the Fuller-Eaton non synchro gearbox, it would play all sorts of tunes when you didn't rev match just right!
@Thatsoverrated
@Thatsoverrated 5 жыл бұрын
With 4 different Deutz engines, in our 3 tractors and forklift. I can say that these engines are one the most reliable ones out there!
@dash456789
@dash456789 5 жыл бұрын
Worked with those engines on ramp barges. Mostly the 4cyl and 5cyl variants. Engine was used to power the ramp hydraulics. Loud, but run forever.
@jamiewhitworth7183
@jamiewhitworth7183 5 жыл бұрын
An old John Deere mechanic told me one time he used to work on these Deutz motors on gen sets up in oilfield camps in northern Alberta, me marvelled at how fuel efficient they were and how much better they were than the liquid cooled motors that eventually replaced them. Cool motors. I can’t say I enjoy the ergonomics of the tractors themselves though.
@MrJani1989
@MrJani1989 5 жыл бұрын
i always think 7 when adjusting valves on a 6-cyl. 1+6 2+5 3+4. when the valves changes on one, adjust the other ;)
@seeul8rwaynekerr
@seeul8rwaynekerr 4 жыл бұрын
We used to have a straight 6 and an v8 air coolie deutz motors on the super cat sailplane winches here in the UK. Thanks for the info. Very informative from Cambridgeshire England UK.
@Str8pipedodge
@Str8pipedodge 5 жыл бұрын
Turned off an episode of Roadkill on MotorTrend to watch this!
@marksquires5611
@marksquires5611 5 жыл бұрын
had a dutz air cooled 3 cylinder in a c4 treefarmer skidder and loved it. did not have to worry about sticks in going thru the radiator. only thing was as soon you touched the key it fired not much oil pressure built but never any issues and even when it was 20° out it needed no starting fluid. great engine.
@prodieselrepair3218
@prodieselrepair3218 5 жыл бұрын
Those are awesome engines! I've serviced a few in standby generators. One was a two cylinder, one a 4, and the other was a 5 cylinder.
@guyconnell2250
@guyconnell2250 3 жыл бұрын
Now that you mention it. In the early 80s my boss had a cabover IH with a KT 450 Cummins. We were running team hauling livestock. On the way back from Oklahoma, while he was driving it, #6 hole scored. Started knocking, for lack of a better term. Stopped at the next Cummins certified truck repair shop. The manager tried with all his might to sell a Deutz to my boss as the place was a Deutz dealer. I recall the sales pitch going, on and off, for an hour or so. Ultimately the boss said no, we got motel rooms, and they put a new liner and piston in the #6 hole and off we went. A few months later he traded it off on a new 1982 Eagle cabover with the new (at the time) 3406A 400 Cat. So yeah, went from a KT 450 to a 400 Cat. Life was good.
@marcoceccarelli6415
@marcoceccarelli6415 5 жыл бұрын
My opinion the best diesel motor ever designed
@bostemaly1348
@bostemaly1348 5 жыл бұрын
We have one on our irrigation water pump runs full tilt sometimes for a week straight! Great engines just very loud when full throttle.
@herpnderpn2484
@herpnderpn2484 5 жыл бұрын
Deafening. One of the few engines that is louder than it's exhaust.
@marcusgault9909
@marcusgault9909 4 жыл бұрын
PARDON? WHAT DID YOU SAY? I CANT HEAR YOU.
@bostemaly1348
@bostemaly1348 4 жыл бұрын
Marcus Gault lol no joke it’s literally deafening
@larrygingerich2585
@larrygingerich2585 3 жыл бұрын
Well, not so sure about that. The DX series tractors have "quiet" mufflers. They weren't loud. Maybe if you have them on an irrigation pump etc with a non factory muffler. And you don't keep the valves gapped properly, that's very important.
@bostemaly1348
@bostemaly1348 3 жыл бұрын
@@larrygingerich2585 yeah this only has an up pipe and a flap so definitely not stock 😂 also it’s probably louder due to it being exposed whereas on the tractor they are incased to help direct airflow
@parrisgeorge9708
@parrisgeorge9708 5 жыл бұрын
I spent a good number of years operating one on my families farm. My dad took a chance because it was air cooled and the tractor had been a demo from a dealer for a few years before we bought it. Like ALL the other farmers in our area we had serious doubts about cooling and such. That particular tractor was the only one that we owned that NEVER got hot in heavy summer work. It's been a long time but I'm pretty sure is was a DX 140 or DX160? Turbocharged 6. It was a very good running, strong, and comfortable tractor to operate.
@rvsteve583
@rvsteve583 5 жыл бұрын
had one of these on a generator i was taking care of, was 50 years old. never gave any problems.
@johnsalcido5436
@johnsalcido5436 Жыл бұрын
I got several of these bare engines that I use as diesel water pumps.. things are bullet proof and never never break down.
@chloehennessey6813
@chloehennessey6813 5 жыл бұрын
I kinda want you to drive one of our tractors. They’re Case IH Quadtracs. I think you’d love it. Went from 620HP stock to 874HP after tuning and some work done at Case.
@jasonketchum4052
@jasonketchum4052 5 жыл бұрын
First time of seeing one other than something very very old . Very cool thanks DeBoss for showing this
@skinanbonesOG
@skinanbonesOG 5 жыл бұрын
great video, I was at a customers home putting in a pellet stove. We got talking tractors and he took me out to his drive shed that had a restored late 40's early 50's Deutz single cylinder tractor. As far as he knows and was told, this tractor was one of the first to be imported into canada
@MisterRudolf
@MisterRudolf 5 жыл бұрын
Could be a a F1M414 If its watercooled or a F1L514 if its aircooled. Until the 60's, Deutz tractors had the same designation like the engines. Cool stuff. Didnt know they we're exported to the US :)
@Alejandro-vb2fx
@Alejandro-vb2fx 4 жыл бұрын
@@MisterRudolf He clearly said CANADA at the end of his statement, Canada isn't part of the US and they were sold as Allis in the us and some of these were here as well dipshit.
@paulsawake3369
@paulsawake3369 4 жыл бұрын
Loved working on the older Deutz engines up to and including the 1011 series.
@flyguyphil7247
@flyguyphil7247 2 жыл бұрын
Have a 50hp 3 cylinder NA deutz in my rayco rg50 stump grinder, i love it, it runs like a champ
@Erated78
@Erated78 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome video Rich, so interesting as well. Thanks for the explanation and background info, much appreciated, cheers
@MrMawnster
@MrMawnster 5 жыл бұрын
Love em! My dad always had the 6 cylinder DX series ones. I have two smaller ones F4L 912, 06 series...one has 14 500 hours and the other about 12000 hours. Incredible machines!
@cineminded
@cineminded 5 жыл бұрын
I did not know these tractors where distributed in the US , the dx tractors are still very common in the Netherlands and of course Germany . Worked with them a lot, nice video !
@billyrudd2786
@billyrudd2786 5 жыл бұрын
Canada my dude
@farmerboy9029
@farmerboy9029 5 жыл бұрын
There were still plenty sold in the US. Our farm has 2
@randykroells8049
@randykroells8049 5 жыл бұрын
They were available in orange if you were a Allis lover.
@cineminded
@cineminded 5 жыл бұрын
@@billyrudd2786 Yes,I meant to say North America
@thesixgunfighter288
@thesixgunfighter288 5 жыл бұрын
My boss bought one at auction, a long with a 1990 Dodge W150. He still has the tractor and I bought the truck, and we're talking Missouri
@MrShanegoldman
@MrShanegoldman 5 жыл бұрын
On our farm we had a 5 cylinder irrigation pump and a 10 cylinder irrigation pump. They were very smooth running. The 10 cylinder was a V design.
@SWETHOR02
@SWETHOR02 5 жыл бұрын
Aircooled deutz diesels are the best mine starts without glowplugs in 20-c and have never let me down
@MrMopar413
@MrMopar413 5 жыл бұрын
Motorblog Från Byggden I used to work for Wagner Mining Equipment co as a diesel. Did you ever run a Wagner machine?
@larrygingerich2585
@larrygingerich2585 3 жыл бұрын
Deutz the air cooled W-series of the 912 and 913 , the W stands for Indirect fuel injection. Cleaner combustion for mining applications.
@Porty1119
@Porty1119 3 жыл бұрын
@@larrygingerich2585 Great engines! I have two F4L912Ws, one in an EIMCO 911B LHD/mucker and one in a 5-ton Young Buggy.
@Porty1119
@Porty1119 3 жыл бұрын
@@MrMopar413 I've never run a Wagner, but I've run a few EIMCOs and Young Buggies. An acquaintance has an ST-2D with an F6L912 (non-W) in it, he wants to replace it with an F6L914.
@MrMopar413
@MrMopar413 3 жыл бұрын
@@Porty1119 I’ve been away from this stuff 18 years. They are both inline 6 cylinders but I don’t know the difference. It just might be horsepower. But if not the 14 might be longer which would need modifications to the motor mounts, converter etc. you can run into a host of problems in doing this. Even at the plant when we changed engine types it was a pain in the ass.
@ZR1Terror
@ZR1Terror 3 жыл бұрын
I have a Ditch Witch RT-45 with a Deutz engine. So far it’s running very solid.
@kevinmoss970
@kevinmoss970 5 жыл бұрын
The good old air cooled deutz, brilliant reliable engines. Rebuilt many of them over the years in German Kramer Allrad loading shovels .
@larsloschwitz9448
@larsloschwitz9448 5 жыл бұрын
They were used by nearly every construction machine manufacturer here in germany and many of those machines are still in operation. O&K, Schaeff, Zeppelin, Fuchs, Kramer, Zettelmeyer, Eder, Atlas...
@kevinmoss970
@kevinmoss970 5 жыл бұрын
Top tip for setting the piston to cylinder head "bump" clearances is to fit more shims than you need, if your solder clearance is too thick you can just lift up the liner and cut shims off one by one as needed to get the correct clearance. Saves lifting the whole liner off over and ovwr again.
@scolombe1
@scolombe1 5 жыл бұрын
I have two spray foam rigs, both have Deutz diesel generators in them, one is a F3L913 and the other is a F4L913. The 4 cylinder rig actually had a water cooled Weifang turbo diesel (China) in it originally, but we replaced it with a Deutz because the 3 cyl we have is so reliable. Both still running perfectly
@MidnightMechanic
@MidnightMechanic 5 жыл бұрын
So when's the last time the air coolant has been changed? Air from 40 years ago isn't the same air today!
@Lordwilliams1990
@Lordwilliams1990 4 жыл бұрын
I always remember my old air cooled SAME laser, ran lovely, always a little blue smoke in the morning but normal with air cooled engines.
@KEIFabrication
@KEIFabrication 5 жыл бұрын
Nice, well engineered engine access and maintenance. Thanks for the education! I think I might be a Deutz fan know!
@Calovikie
@Calovikie 3 жыл бұрын
Our family farm runs to V8 air-cooled deutz in our Gleaner combines. Well over 2500 engine hours on them still running strong
@abstractphilosopher4748
@abstractphilosopher4748 4 жыл бұрын
I cannot hold myself from saying that i can provide customized castration for those who gave dislike to this video !!! The 912/913 series are a bit on the entry level, as size...Those who do not know anything about these engines should educate themselves for a few years into the larger series of Deutz before talking/disliking...With clean oil and fuel these engines will outlive the 7th generation after my grandchildren are gone out of this world... Deutz are the best industrial engines this world has ever produced. They have 150 years of history. I have only air cooled engines in my garage,some of the rarest you can find...I managed to grab a NEW industrial 10 liter Deutz ( i bought an 8000 lbs, 150 KW generator that was brought from Germany) that i am going to put in a F350 dually later on---and i have to say that the oil pan alone is 250 lbs---brutal engine---state of the art...it can be modified very easy to make more than 1000 lbs.ft torque.---a frame mangler for sure... I should also note that these engines are not cheap, but you get what you pay for. I will try to upload a 5 minutes video on my channel in the next weeks... For those who care about good stuff---try to find Deutz DQC IV-18 LA engine oil and DURON UHP E6 10w40 diesel oil---let me know if you can get your hands on those oils...Peace...
@minitrailgott7558
@minitrailgott7558 5 жыл бұрын
Damn, I have a Deutz D4006 with an Aircooled 3 cylinder and 35 hp. Rwd. But it pulls everything you ask it too
@patrickmorris3721
@patrickmorris3721 4 жыл бұрын
Great engine. Worked on lots of these 🇮🇪☘️💚😉
@rickeydriskill1096
@rickeydriskill1096 5 жыл бұрын
Had one of those at my old job. It was a really good running tractor
@johnneal7155
@johnneal7155 4 жыл бұрын
Love those old air cooled Deutz engines. We ran those engines in Ditch Witch trenchers for many years, still the best diesel engine Ditch Witch ever used in a machine, until the EPA started changing the emissions standards. Now you see what we have. Nice video man.
@gtrulez
@gtrulez 5 жыл бұрын
We had an old Faun HK40 telescopic crane from 1988. It had an air cooled deutz diesel to power the crane functions. It smoked, it stinked, it was loud, the exhaust was leaking and whatnot but That thing would ALWAYS start! And with minimal effort too. Especially in the winter at freezing temperatures when the startermotor really had trouble to turn the engine over because of poor battery's; you could still make it start. The trick was to glow it for a loooooooong time, then all it needed was one slow rev to make it come to life. Crazy! As long as it had diesel, oil and air, and just enough battery to glow and make the engine turn over slowly it would start. Loved it! But it is sold now.
@patrickcosgrove6691
@patrickcosgrove6691 Жыл бұрын
Best engine's I've ever came across as a mechanic. Start first tip of the key and run on the smell of diesel. Deutz DX tractors were unbelievably reliable. Only setback were the outboard brakes..
@jonathanvanginkel3849
@jonathanvanginkel3849 5 жыл бұрын
Deutz has some of the best diesel engines in the world
@aaronwilcox6417
@aaronwilcox6417 Жыл бұрын
I've ran these in deep hot underground hardrock mine that was hot. These Deutz operate in unreal conditions. Wish they put them in new pickups
@garbizzi6868
@garbizzi6868 3 жыл бұрын
I bought a 30k stump grinder with a 3 cyl air cooled deutz diesel for $50 . they were about to scrap it at the scrapyard , it wouldnt start cuz a wire for the fuel shutoff solonoid and they couldnt start it ... But i could ! And it is a awesome little engine !
@danielanderson2030
@danielanderson2030 5 жыл бұрын
Just the video ive been waiting on. Seen a few old ford vans with em for sale lately.
@MrWomojo
@MrWomojo 4 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: Unlike the original Deutz factory itself ("Deutz" is the name of a district in Cologne) the Magirus factory (Magirus was Deutz's Truck subsidiary) was located in the south German Town named Ulm. These two towns have two of the most impressive cathedral buildings you could find in Germany. And you can guess the Cologne people are very proud of their cathedral (two towers) and identify alot with it. The Magirus brand logo was the "Ulm Minster" (Cathedral) silhouette (one single, but even bigger tower -highest in the world so far). And that's how to this day the logo of one of the most ingrained Cologne companies actually shows the cathedral tower of the Ulm Minster combined with the "M" for Magirus.
@modernneanderthal6970
@modernneanderthal6970 5 жыл бұрын
Deboss you are correct. Deutz switched to coolant. Company I work for has both variations in our fleet, not to mention we get a ton of customer owned equipment with air cooled Deutz, Perkins and Hatz diesels
@Porty1119
@Porty1119 3 жыл бұрын
Ever run into a Perkins 4154? I found one in an LHD in Utah but never did end up buying the thing.
@jarretolsen2771
@jarretolsen2771 2 жыл бұрын
Gosh what a wealth of knowledge. Love Deutz!
@69micksta
@69micksta 10 ай бұрын
I love the V8 Deutz Engine BF 8L.413-513V Usually in the deutz trucks , marine and mining ⛏ very good engines
@MrCthieke
@MrCthieke 5 жыл бұрын
I have a 3 cylinder on a princeton teledyne forklift I love it
@TheHDPerspective
@TheHDPerspective 4 жыл бұрын
Worked on these engines in the oilpatch in Alberta. They're awesome engines.
@madcat4563
@madcat4563 7 ай бұрын
Man, I love the throaty thumping idle of a big diesel engine.
@Deftonesdsm
@Deftonesdsm 5 жыл бұрын
Saw a guy throw an air cooled duetz into a ford ranger. Loud shakey slow but great mileage and simple
@peterk2455
@peterk2455 5 жыл бұрын
Gearing on Ranger is for an engine max torque at 3900rpm, to max HP at 5200rpm, while the Deutz produces max torque at 1390rpm & max power at 2,300rpm.
@Deftonesdsm
@Deftonesdsm 5 жыл бұрын
@@peterk2455 yeah guy said 50mph was maxed out. I think it had a 4spd but said he got huge gas mileage. So minus the noise and shake cool swap
@trenton1880
@trenton1880 5 жыл бұрын
Nice video we have a couple deutz engines on our farm one irrigation engine 6cyl turbo and another small 3cyl that runs the blower on our fertilizer spreader.
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