Not sure if you know this but there is a free terrain radar mod. It adds a VSD, terrain, and weather radar to many aircraft that don’t have it. It’s directly comparable with the Zibo so it should work just fine. It’s called “ Terrain radar + Vertical Situation Display”

1:13:56 Unfortunately xplane 12 changed a lot of things that made it hard for Zibo to simply port the plane from XP11 with no issues. Thrust was one of casualties of the changes in XP's flight model. It is a great shame that you did not try it during the glory days of XP11, but great to see you using it now regardless. I'm sure that it will be brought back up to scratch in the near future. Zibo and his helpers are fantastic developers!

Zibo was my favorite plane before I switched to MSFS, 3 plugins need to be installed to get it fully functional: Avitab, better pushback, and terrain radar. And I remember zibo does have performance calculator, at least for landing i guess, maybe in the weight & balance section in the efb

Nice to see your first impression on the Zibo. I flew it for many years on X-Plane 11 before moving to MSFS. Gotta say the PMDG for me feels more authentic and immersive, especially the cockpit modelling and the ftsim+ sound pack. But the Zibo flies like a dream and for me it always felt more satisfying to take off and land. Also I’d highly recommend BetterPushback and the Terrain Radar plugin which enables the terrain function on the MFD in many aircraft for X-Plane, including Zibo. I may also suggest the RealPFD mod for more realistic looking displays. Looking forward for future videos!

As I flew the Zibo Mod regularly on XP11 I can say something seems off on the AP behavior - it did not move the column that erratically back then so I guess it's some compatibility issue with XP12 changes you see. For sounds, iirc there are settings in the EFB for the volume of different systems in "audio volumes & EQ". The FMC "chime" might also relating to the setting you wondered about ("FMC beep sound" - 11:00)

@PMDG look Zibo managed to implement a EFB😂

Interesting video. Wonder how your opinion would change had you known how to use the sim better and been able to distinguish which behaviours are X-Plane related limitations\bugs (same as msfs has some quirks) and once you've installed terrain radar and everything else needed to make the Zibo mod complete. I thought about writing a timeline including explanations on how I would do different things in the sim (pressing 4 once when the speedbrake is stowed, for example, would arm it; you can bing thrust reversers to your yoke or press Shift+/ to activate them (and again to stow them). Would you be interested in that?

I really like the Zibo sounds, and the roll sounds:)

Excellent seeing your experiences and conclusions with the Zibo, much appreciated. I greatly enjoy both this and the PMDG.

That trim sounds like a fishing reel 😄

What an interesting video🎉 I watched it without skiping

The terrain does work, you just have to download a separate plugin for that

I Should test Rotate MD-11F, very nice addon. Toliss A340-600 also

the "bing" at 54:10 or so is, i believe, the baffling "FMC BEEP SOUND" option in the EFB which you can see at 11:01. if enabled, when you change something on the FMC (but have not yet pressed EXEC), a "MOD" enunciator pops up on the top left of the screen, and the FMC "bings".

Little trick, the mic ptt p/b on the glareshield is actually activated as toga button.

This looks like graphics from 2013. XP 12 has a long way to go to catch up to MSFS in graphics.

First 😅 I hope you enjoy the Zibo 737 and all the other great planes in this sim. Thanks for the showcase and work!

For terrain to work you have to install an extra addon that displays terrain data to the 737 zibo

Very useful video, thank you. One change I had to make was "Tire Blown Advanced" in Realism settings. I found if I left that set at "ON" I blew a tyre on EVERY landing whether it was made at 20fpm or 200fpm. It results in the aircraft stopping on the runway and even full power does not move it.

Thanks very much for your review. Out of interest, what would you say does the PMDG make better than the Zibo, since your conclusion is that it isn't a the same quality-level? I am a big fan of the PMDG. But also of the Zibo 🙂

you can aboard the passenger onboard there is option to show/hide the passenger on the tablet, and also you can turn down the head up display

I found it facinating to hear comments from a real pilot. I have a small suggestion. When you are reviewing, I think it would be beneficial to mention the aspects you like about the aircraft and where it is better than other 737s. For me, I think the Zibo mod is second only to PMDG. I think the wingflex on the PMDG is jerky and not smooth. For me it detracts from the realism, and show a weakness in the physics animation. Your review is excellent and much appreciated. Thank you.

Great review. However, there isn’t much of an option when it comes to which one to chose. MSFS PMDG and for Xplane hands down is the ZIBO.

Shift+G to dock the Jetway

For the terrain radar you need the free terrain radar mod, it is a plugin.

The yoke movements are a bit like a FBW system on a relaxed stability aircraft, making constant small corrections. It appears to be rhythmic; it's probably just a glitch of XP12's control logic and Zibo's implementation.

Although XP 12 graphics are not as crisp as MSFS/PMDG, I enjoy flying XP 12 more. But it is true, the flickering and other problems are quite embarrassing especially for the framerates you get in XP. MSFS has 100% better graphics and 100% better framerates at the same time. But XP physics feel better.

You selected the "bing" in the setup when you said "I wonder what this FMC bing is ?". The way you have it set up it bings everytime the FMC EXEC lights up.

How does this compare to the PMDG? Seems some have the opinion that the Zibo is much better. Is that correct?

Another great video once more. I don't know any better free addon than this one. In terms of payload, you had a 160 configuration instead of the 189. As for the terrain radar i think there is an expansion available to download for the zibo.

the TOGA clickspot should be on the microphone button.

Finally you are on a real sim! 🎉

I have Xplane 11 and MSFS each have its advantages and disadvantages. But I honestly can’t really go back to 1980 graphics no matter what addon you use it never gets close to MSFS. With PMDG, FBW, Fenix and now the new A2A Comanche I only use MSFS. That A2A is the best GA in any sim out there. The new MSFS 2024 should really improve flight dynamics and really make a dent in the flightsim community.

I used to do Zibo in XP11 but with every update came extra menu complications in the EFB, now there are just to many complications. I love the simplicity of IXEG -300 version and preferred they way it flew. It is developed by a real pilot and the XP12 version is hopefully coming soon!

Looking at these comments - imagine being so sad that you feel the need to fight over the best fake 737. Just enjoy your preference

Should fly the XP11 version. Absolutely faultless and still probably the best a/c in XP (and definitely the best value 😂)

I think you should test “break away Thrust” again. You can start role with ver low n1 in Zibomod, witch is not correct. With 60 tones you should not start moving with 25% N1.

Well that was a very diplomatic opinion of the Zibo 737 vs the PMDG 737 for MSFS. Probably didn't want to upset anybody.

Very nice video! I have a question though, what is the difference between basic and common vnav?

My terrain warning doesnt work too

There are a lot more failures options in the x plane failure menu

I had the same issue with the zoom in thing I figured out that it was an antialiasing thing.

You should try with x-plane 11 with zibo version before early access, i can tell the flight model feeling much close to level D/Real life. I found xp12 zibo flight model including toliss a320 when doing flare the a/c will sink without adding more power or constant final approach speed. Im curious about some real life pilot input including you! i fly in real life too.

Practically the same to PMDG lmao

Regarding the displays at 59:05 perhaps it's the more "bolded" font? Could be an XP thing but the lines used to draw the fonts just appear more thick than in the real NG PFD.

Why did you move to airbus?

Hi wondering the Zibo or pmdg has damage modelling. Example if U abuse the airplane or operate it badly. Will damage be modelled??

Could you maybe think about doing a sound comparison between PMDG and Zibo at some point?

These minecraft graphics in 2023..

"that is ALright".... yes, yes it is.

I really want the A2 FMC on the PMDG as well. Apart from the different layout of the buttons were there any other differences in the real aircraft? Was it faster to input/respond?

Very good sounds

Well I for one missed the briefing

The thing I miss the most about the Zibo was ZHSI, a free 3rd party app that allowed me to export the MIP displays and annunciators to a networked computer for my home cockpit. Not having to pop those screens on my main PC saved me a few FPS. Plus, it also allowed showing annunciators (and basically turn any dataref into an annunciator). I hope Asobo / PMDG provide a way to do this in the future.

The shakey yoke is to do with yoke settings. You need to calibrate the entire controls from the Xplane joystick menu before every flight The bing... Is in the settings, FMC beep to tel you, you past a waypoint. It's an option you can turn off, it's a flightsimisim.

What addons did you use?

Zibo was the plane I was using the most before moving to MSFS. It was ok for a freeware plane. But I can’t stand those graphics anymore, I don’t think XP12 looks much better than XP11 (something I was expecting after ~6 years).

Is this the current version of the zibo?

link for this zibo mod PLEASE

Takeoff performance calculation is available in the Fuel, W & B option. They should make it available seperate.

XPRealistic is a must for X-Plane

PMDG should update their 737 to be like this! But not exactly like it.

First time i hear the word "former" in your intro... hope everything's alright with your life.

A bit harsh. You obviously approached this with a personal bias. Its freeware!! Comparing apples to oranges. I would say PMDG is light years behind based on what ZIBO brings to the market.....for free! I have both and use both MSFS and XP12.

in my thought, the ZIBO 737 was much more better in Version 1.XX. I dont know why, but actualy it wont be getting better. Just Feelings. BUT still muuuuuch more better, then the PMDG. xD

You can't compare freeware to payware.

Yeah it’s good but not pmdg level let’s rephrase that There both great simulations of the 737. before this comment turns into ww3

X-plane looks terrible lol

Why does this looks so ugly? I really hope this isn't X-Plane 12, if it is, then sorry but the zibo 737 mod looks extremely outdated

Great video! Both the PMDG and the Zibo are quite good representations of the 737 for desktop simulators, it's amazing what we have access to these days. I recently picked-up the PMDG 737-900 for MSFS, and have been enjoying it a lot. The performance is excellent and it flies very nicely! I've been using XP for years and years, and it's kind of a fun change to fly such similar aircraft in two different simulators. For your first full flight, I think things went off quite well. No googling required like most of my first flights in an all-new aircraft and/or sim lol It's been said a hundred times, but, get BetterPushback, make sure the aircraft is updated (link: drive.google.com/drive/folders/1qo88h_CCQRRrAMhG3EabHSwa4Lzw-WHL - grab the latest file at the bottom and extract into the 737-800X folder), and get the Terrain Radar plugin and the aircraft will be complete and current. XP12 is still in its infancy, so not much attention is being paid to exacting standards at this point as big XP updates tend to throw devs through a loop. 12.06 is on its way with some major changes. Check out your keybindings, you can use the 3 or 4 keys (by default) to retract or extend the speedbrakes, and one notch extended is the armed position. The autopilot being in "high gain" is just an X-Plane-ism. a combination of over-done turbulence and over-eager autopilots getting better information faster than the real aircraft. All said, I think I've noticed the same differences between the Zibo and PMDG models. Ground handling is my biggest nitpick; the PMDG handles like it's a helium balloon, the Zibo feels like an airliner. Zibo does require too much thrust to maintain speed, but, it leans in the turns and heaves around like a 50-plus-ton airliner, and makes all the right sounds to boot. Sound-wise, I think it's kind of a wash. Zibo sound more natural, but the PMDG sounds cleaner and seems better balanced out of the box. Both have their issues.