Perfect example of needing a demo machine before committing to something that might not fit your operation.

Marketing 101, Know your customer; Put an air horn on pretty much anything and Mike will buy it. He probably won’t even ask the price.

Sooooo happy we built 4 new bins a few years and don’t have to deal with those anymore. grain bags are the devils creation

Mike, I really appreciate your being fair with all manufacturers. They all have pros and cons and you have to decide what works best for your operation. You take care.

The pto running the wrong way is correct for the way the tractor sits at the moment however facing the tractor towards the machine would in turn make it spin the right way unless your spec is different to the 820 we have here in the UK as I used to think the same but we've used the front pto numerous times for jobs. The red machine is much better than the blue also

You can tell just by looking at it that the blue one had way to many engineers and designers involved in it's building. It has some decent features but holy cow is there about a hundred to many parts and pieces to it

A $mil worth of equipment and it still takes shovels and labor. Most city folk wouldn't understand the effort and experience required. I do.

Mike; the crew are getting comfortable with the camera.

Fix water 💧 problem. Build a dirt pad up 6” to keep the bags out of snow melt.

I don’t believe the Neerall fits your operation. The Akron is definitely more suited for your operation to be able to get in there to clean out the bad stuff. Nice comparison both are great products!

I love seeing the change in demeanor of a demo guy when he starts seeing you aren’t impressed. A whole day of frustration just to reach the gimmick end point of having the bag rolled up and popping out. Thank goodness for demos. Everything looks incredible until you try it.

Looks like the blue one is built for corn where a little rotten crap won't matter. Red one is so simple.....looks like less maintenance on it. Definitely nice to see how they compare in this situation head to head. Thanks Mike

capped a hat! thank you Mike and Ashton! keep up the great work!

The blue unit is very interesting from an engineering point of view, but it definitely fell prey to the "over engineer to improve the design to the point that the improvements end up hurting more then helping" issue

That was a good side by side demo of the two a good way to learn some things awesome job Mike

Been waiting for this all week! Thanks Mike! Got you on in the shop while we’re going through our planters. It’s just around the corner!

Great video. Sise by side comparison is priceless. I have never done this, but I'm thinking red from what I see here. Mike I appreciate your informative videos. God bless.

Bagging in general seems to be very Labour intensive. Most people that I know consider bags to be temporary storage and make an effort to have them picked up b4 winter sets in.

Its great to see this stuff, here in germany we dont have no bags. So before your chanel i didnt even know people do this

Hahaha family heirloom smh this guy must be awesome to work for.i am lucky to have a boss like this keep up the good work boys.

This Bag Extractor looks nice, and has some "luxury" features, but in this case "luxury" sometimes makes things more complicated. I would say..."less is more" like the Akron!

Ha Mike and the crew , nice to see some loading from grain bags. I remembered when I just started watching , I was wondering how you get the grain from the bags. Enjoying the fun. Watching from Jamaica 🇯🇲

truly love to see a long term real life video on grain baggers, i have never appreciated my flat bottom bins so much, reasonable size flat bottom bin is way less work than this with a bin sweep, i never thought grain bags would require this much labor

You can use the blue one to roll the bags of the red one when it finishes.

Not a expert by any means, but the Akron sure seems to be more user friendly

Thanks Mike. Great video

'Rickles "I'll pass it along to my kids" hahahaha! Sure won't be the inheritance they are expecting;)

Fast ad on KZfaq KZfaq love’s his bag extractor like this one

Hi Mike great video I ordered one of your hats the other day I cannot wait for it to arrive good luck with seeding when it starts - Henry

I like the Neeralta extractor, I believe it can be connected directly to the rear 3 point hitch which would make it easier to back up with one less pivot point.

love the truck wheel close ups.

Great video Mike nice looking extractor

Worst case is Neeralta knows what changes they need to make to their machine so that they can get your business. Demos and evaluations are just as important for the vendor as they are for the customer. That extractor seems to be a heck of a machine. It just makes it difficult for you to clean the bad stuff out before it goes in the truck.

Tony Fast from Fastagri Montana runs one of these but it is mounted on the three point linkage.

What if you put the bag roller onto the Akron. So when your finished, instead of rolling the bag out, you can just transfer it to the bag roller. Basically combine the two. You'll be able to check the bag and operate like normal but at the end you get to roll it. Just an idea. To improve the other bag extractor, finding a way to lower the angle on the bag roller might help solve a lot of the issue. That 90 degree pull on the bag can put a lot of strain and increase the risk of tearing the bag.

Un aplauso para Akron es la mejor!!!!!!! Made in Argentina Córdoba...

Fast Ag Montana never had any of the bagger issues that you are having. Down there its a one man operation

Another great upload by Mike 👍

I think Mike hit it on the head when he brought up the fact that; it would be easy to poke the auger out the side of the bag, the low visibility of this machine would not be ideal. Just my opinion. Awesome presentation. I can see it working for some people,who store grain very short periods, where rotten grain is less of a factor.

Nice á how neat that role is.👍

Mike; Another observation, a lot of you tube farmers have dodgy PTO's some without guards or broken guards, Kudos to you. I notice the augers are pretty good as well. Edit; I just noticed at 5:50 one guard is spinning.

Mitch keep the red one and make a bag wrapper for front linkage on tractor ... simple 👍👍

Really don't like the blue one. That open shaft spinning near you guys scares me. 😎

Mike, it looks like that vertical pto should be better protected from the workers, just my thought when they were wrestling with the bag.

Get the 1105 on one of those extractors!

This is a good comparison i like thos

Well the blue bag extracter looks way hard to use in bad bags and in wet muddy icy conditions But mike great video really liked the info from it have a great week

I completely understand the scale of your operation,but I still struggle to see the cost saving with plastic, big sheds are indeed expensive,but unlike plastic,a lifetime investment,not just for storing harvested grain,but also for storing bulk seed and fertiliser for the planting season. There will come a day and not far away when plastics are banned. Really enjoying your content as always. Thanks for posting.

I see an uncovered rotating axle at the Neeralta. Watch out for this killer!!!

Right here right now good stuff

It seems to me both extractors have something positive over the other. On the Neeralta, it would work better if the roller was lower down, and provided easy access to the bag for grain inspection during rolling (don't pinch the bag so early in the rolling cycle). This video should be useful for the manufacturer....

it is cool being able to drop those rolled up rolls *STRAIGHT* INTO the back of a pickup tho!!! with the NEERALTO ....or however you speel it... lol

Nice work 👌😊

Good afternoon Mike first off love your vids and the info you give with each one one thing I noticed about the demo machine if your electronics go wonky and you need to run the machine from the lever controls you have 2 issues that come to view the horizontal drive shaft and the vertical drive shaft, you boys do slot of the unbagging in snowy weather and icy conditions if the operator was to slip he or she may end up on the drive shafts and with no cage the end result could be very unpleasant. This I have seen first hand my brother was helping us and he slipped and ended up tangled in the shaft, pins, screws,and 2 plates plus 8 months off work. A cage would go a long way. Stay safe boys great teamwork.

O it's the new one, great.👍

Neeralta works better further north in areas of high snowfall because the roller is in the air fully out of the snow bank. Also new Akrons have hydraulic driven wheels according to their website. Or you could just retrofit an auger mover to the extractor wheels...

Went and watched Tony Fast videos and one man can load truck and operate unloader; but Tony did not have to shovel moldy wheat from the bags.

Tony Fast on the Fast Ag channel uses the blue one and it seems to work great for him. I was quite shocked to see the struggles here. But in the end the Akron makes way more sense in this operation.

FastAG Montana has a bag extractor like that one that he runs by himself.

Compared to your red one this seems more labor intensive. At least the bag reel, just using a wider one to prevent as many pinch/tear points. Shiny isn’t always better.

That open PTO on the Neeralta is a bit scary.

Great video! :)

Not here to bash any company’s but by the looks of it, it looks like the red one works a little better or ig you can say sense the roller is on the bottom it really helps instead of being on the top

I think the red machine easier to use than the blue one,especially to remove rotten seed

For your specific operation I'd say the Akron is a better option

Great video. Tonyfastag changed his to a 3 point connect on tractor, got tractor closer to bagger ,made shorter easier see.

Was hoping for this

Frekels has a Saskatchewan dinner jacket.

Thanks for being non bias and non political 😆

For me I think the Akron has the better setup but the Blue one has some nice features also. Like another said more user friendly to get in to get any bad crop out of it. Especially with your wildlife in 🇨🇦

I did like the way the blue one rolled the bag up though and that would surely make a difference over the space of a season notwithstanding space in your recycling bin. Shame as I thought it was a nice unit just a shame it doesn't work for you, Mike.

You should get a round baler to roll up the grain bags we tried it out it works good😂😂

Seen people use a round bailer to roll the empty bags to the Akron looks like the fast machine

It’s your Crue doing the work buddy but if it was mine I would want them running the Akron because it’s the one that you can take care of everything necessary especially rotten Grain! 😼🖖🏼🇺🇸

The Neeralta needs twin smaller rollers either side, down near the drive wheels it would be much better?

I'm the US dealer for those in Montana. Shortline Ag if anyone has any questions.

The Neeralta unit does not seem both friendly, or efficient. The Ackron seems more useful, and quicker. For visual easy to work is definitely Akron.

You guys have Claas hats but no Claas equipment,is that a sign for what the future has to offer?🤣

Neat concept, but looks like a pain in the ass hooking up or dealing with a stubborn bag, I’ll stick with my Loftness extractor

Hola Miki como estás , Akron argentina no tiene competencia es lo más grande jajaja

The Akron seems better and you could maybe put like a sort of portable roller on the front link or the bucket 🤷‍♂️ I like the steps that go above the PTO to go from one to the other side

Yeah, not an expert here either but the red one has a couple of decisive advantages. 1 the pusher, 2 the ability to get at any rotten material.

With all respect to all grain bag manufacturers . I'm not sure about the idea of grain bags. I would rather build more grain bins. I was in the cattle industry and made silage. Deer, foxes, coyotes, crows, ravens loved the long white runway. My thought

That demo bag extractor can have its draw bar removed and you can turn it into a 3pt hitch. Tony fast from fast ag Montana did that.

I don't know anything about using bags. The Akron seems to be wider and pushes better. Either way, pretty cool process.

Which extractor has the widest in take? Is that why the blue one has the problems looking at the crop in the bags or is it because the bag is being wound up narrower?

It would be nice for it to work then you could have to machines one can be in one area another on a different place or if on goes down then one could fill in.

Morning

I watch many other farm tubers. Not sure how much different the climate at the Fast Ag Farm is but they use this Nerral bag extractor. Tony and his hired hand both know how to use it and can load their own trucks by themselves with it. Never see them have the troubles Mike has with rotten grain though either

Stay with the red one mike the blue one looks like a pain to run

is this the first bag extractor they have built? because then i would say trial and error like every brand had to do. if they saw the problems they have and fix them this would be a good sign for the future to improove their system :)

I don't know if It is exactly like this one but it works the same it's fast ag

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It looks like extractor manufacture(s) are moving towards self operated units, without a tractor.

Fast Ag Montana uses the blue machine. I can see advantages of both.

Thumbs up... Very informative showing the crappest part of a farmers life.... Painful to watch let alone sort that mess out

Welkers used Loftness unit. Basic unit simple operation.

Best machine in the world is the one that makes you money and all machines break!

Bags looks an all round ball ache to me! If I had to pick out of the two machines, I would pick the red one because the blue one looks like a inevitable compensation claim. Tip it clamp and cover it, lose a bit around the edge but I would think more efficient 🤷

I love the sign you have on your pickup's dashboard. LOL