Overthinking Episode 3: Face Reveals Check out episodes 1 & 2 here: kzfaq.info/sun/PL0hAOfdoZQkKbhgIFGJrHLQsIBTQgtIFc

MadSeason's face is composed of the souls he destroyed while making Rank 14

You've done a forearm reveal, that's good enough.

I was half expecting him to just remove the helmet on his WoW character.

Never show your face. Keep it a mystery.

Bro is actually so handsome he's worried about the ripple affects on society, what a hero for protecting us from the ensuing chaos

In my opinion, a big part of the fun of MMO's is that we all hide behind these avatars of Warcraft. It can be fun to get to the person behind the camera, but it breaks the illusion of being in another world and interacting through it.

Been following for years, a face reveal, never crossed my mind.

You’re good bro. Been watching you for almost 8 years and with your personality and content, never felt the need to ask for a face reveal. To me, it’s a testament to the quality of your content that people are good with the mystery

Keep the mystery alive, my friend.

I completely agree with everything you said. As some other people are saying, your WoW character already acts as your "face", which is kind of funny that your character's face is hidden behind a helmet. Point is, your fans have already adopted a visual perception / expectation of you, so changing that in anyway sort of shatters a part of the illusion or gimmick that's developed for years. The same sort of point can be made for other channels that use some kind of avatar. Even a lack of an avatar still counts as an avatar, they're an incorporeal being with a voice.

In the past, we were educated to always remain private and anonymous online. That was great advice. Just because a few zoomers decided that their lives should be made public on the web does not change that being a bad idea.

Hey Mad, totally with you 100% This online world is Dangerous! So anonymity is a GOOD thing in that context. Even though trolls and toxic fanboys also use their anonymity to spread hate and chaos from the damp, dark depths of their mother's basements! You're an interesting Dude, but I fully respect your right to privacy, and your content rocks anyway! No need for us to get to know who, exactly, is MadSeason. You've had your fair share of run ins with trolls and fan boys, so you know how this game works! No need to justify yourself as far as I am concerned, but I respect and appreciate your decision to do so 👍🏼 Your videos rocks Man! That is ALL that counts!

Let’s get a shirtless body reveal you stud

Personally glad about no face cam. I like the little Madseason plush/crochet. Or the MS paint version, or the digital art version. That’s the character/mascot of this channel. And your monotone voice brings it all to life. Thank you for the time you’ve given us.

No face reveal unless you're wearing Herod's helm. Ps. the arm reveal was legendary though Edit: my bad, it's the helm of endless rage

my man is looking to buy a house with this upload volume.

In the words of one very wise wizard... 'keep it secret, keep it safe'.

OG respect for privacy.

I was not thinking "Oh, God! I hope he's not doing a face reveal!" - I was very curious about what the joke would be in place of a face reveal, half expecting a CGI of your Warcraft character in front of your real recording room as a backdrop. I agree with everything you said here. Privacy is very important, and there are crazy people on the internet literally hunting for people to make miserable or even ruin the lives of. It's best not to place yourself in a way where such people can effect you unless you already possess all the fame and celebrity needed to deter them.

I think no cams shows the value of the actual context itself. If you cannot leverage the algorithm with cams and still succeed on engagement metrics and just overall channel community. It just speaks highly on how well produced the content is and that’s exactly what we want. Kinda like the lord of The rings of channels. Never gets old!

Shirtless reveal, wearing the helmet.

Hey MadSeason, I can relate to the video. I have an IG meme page with 26k followers about my city that has 180k people living in it, so basically the whole city knows me even if they are not followers. I chose to stay anonymous but around 80 people now know who is behind the page. For other local content creators, it's crazy how much hate they get because people see that there's a real person behind the account. I rarely get any hate and if possible, I never want to show my face online to that audience because I couldn't walk around the city unnoticed and for me, my content is more important than the person behind it. Anyway, you probably won't read this but just wanted to give my 2 cents on the topic.

The fact you knew how the comments would reflect with this video. Shows how in touch you are with us(your audience) and I can’t help but love that.

Hi MadSeason, I’ve watched your content for good couple of years and I just wanna express my appreciation. Thank you.. for all the good stuff that you’ve put out there throughout the years, whether its the WoW Pandora’s box essay or the hidden quests in Vanilla WoW. I just enjoy watching your videos in general, they make my days better and that means something to me ^^ Take care and farewell on the path! Peace.

Highly appreciative essay on the matter. Well done, I always like the substance more than the fluff that comes around it. Here's to another 10 years of awesome monotonous videos ;)

I don't think I ever watched a video on any channel that required a face cam, or felt the need for one when there isn't, then again I don't mind when there is one either. I watch videos for the information in it. The only time I feel the need to see the person (or a stand-in / actor for that matter) is when they explain something that requires a physical demonstration, like how to tie a tie or something like that. So depends on the content for me, and I have never even thought about Madseason not have one until now, hence it must mean it makes no difference because the content is good and the editing keeps you engaged, which I think is a very important point - the editing. So keep it up man, and I do applaud the self reflection, its something more youtubers should do. Reflect on why they do what they do, and if changing it would make a difference and why it would either positively or negatively is generally what leads to better content

but seriously i think anybody who has been following this channel since before you quit wow knew this wouldn't be a face reveal, but just you talking about the entire concept of one. we're all here for your enlightening and highly melodic cadence, already knowing that you're extremely physically attractive because you told us that before

MadSeason, Im a very very long (I don't even know when i started watching you) subscriber and viewer. I love how you're shifting content (even though when I first started watching you it was mainly wow), I'm glad you're broadening your horizons and enlightening us to how things such as social media REALLY IS and how we're perceiving it etc. Sorry, I am a little intoxicated watching. I really wish you the best, I want you to succeed because you deserve it, and I don't flippin care if you have a face reveal or not, even if some of us, myself included, are curious. Keep doing what you're doing, do what makes you happy, I will continue enjoying your content for many years to come. Thank you.

Very cool how you're blasting out videos atm! Really appreciate and enjoy them. Thank you for your efforts and keep your privacy what it should be: private.

been watching and following for years. no need to „force“ you to show your face. i totally respect that. keep rocking!

I was hesitant to watch at first because I thought you were going to do a face reveal, but thought...maybe he'll just talk about face reveals. I'm glad that thought was right. :^)

Greatest face reveal to date is between Grade A Under A and Soviet Womble

I've always been the type of person who doesn't get heavily invested in online communities or personalities, and I tend to split the creator and their content into two separate entities. I might not be interested at all in what the creator has to say outside of that niche interest that got me into it in the first place. I think it runs a pretty high risk of becoming unhealthy to always need to attach a 'friendly' face to everything the solution to a lack of social relationships in life is also not to replace that with parasocial ones

The best thing about the world we live in is that for the most part, you can do what you want exactly the way you want to. I know I come here on slow weekend mornings to have you in the background talking about... well, literally whatever, while I get on with my day. You having a face cam would be entirely inconsequential to my consumption of your content and I'm sure that applies to the majority who watches this channel regularly. You made a choice and chose anonymity, and that is completely fine.

Interestingly, I never actually wanted to see your face. Not because I wouldn't want to (or anything in a negative context), but simply because your content for me is something like a bedtime story. And for that, I don't want to see faces. I want to listen to your soothing, monotone voice, and just let myself be emerged by the topic of the video. I often fall alseep just listening to your videos, not even watching at all (not because they're not interesting - but because it's soothing). Your strongest point is your unique style in how you storytell. Facecam wouldn't add literally any value to that at all, in context your channel is built around. Thank you for everything, I really enjoy your videos!

MadSeasonShow, I certainly agree if a content creator has no wish to reveal their face, than that is 110% a-okay. If you have no desire to ever show it, than I have no desire to ever see it. Plus, on ocassion, I have seen that png stick figure drawing of you hitting a keyboard when talking to people. I find that to be both charming and funny. I'd say keep doing that.

I’ve wanted to make vlogs explaining a newer and easier take on music theory and songwriting I learned from my mentor. this video helped me in some of my decision making for that :) I too will keep the face a mystery and let the content speak for itself, from the bottom of my heart thank you for the amazing content that you’ve been putting out lately, it feels so honest in a world filled with dishonesty ❤

i love imagining madseason as his character. it makes your channel feel even more connected to the game

Gotta respect your stance, the argument makes sense. Good on ya for staying true to yourself.

Exactly what I expected from this video. So true that some are really weird and try to find how people look to such degree or after reveal they say shit. But yeah, one good reason I also always thought, focus on content whatever it is, not necessarily the person.

Herod full body cosplay

I’ve been here for quite some time and for what it’s worth, I prefer your channel as is. That said, you do you.

Ironically, I feel as if faceless content creators can express personality and style more into their videos than having to put up a show for the camera constantly. I prefer to watch youtubers for the content and if I learn something random about a hobby or interest of theirs every once in a while, pretty cool to me. The little bits of hand or forearm reveals amuse me, keep up the great work, Mads. :)

tbh for me your voice is like a personality, its always so calm and rly nice deep voice thats like a personality already so nah u dont need face reveal its all good

Stay in the shadows my dude...we have seen bits and pieces of the COS play...all we need is that monotoned madness

Big sigh of relief. Reading the title, I thought maybe you decided to do a face reveal. Thank you for remaining anonymous. I appreciate the face-free monotone goodness of your KZfaq videos. They are perfectly entertaining without the distraction of seeing what you look like.

I feel betrayed and yet intrigued

that one bicep flex when grabbing your classic box was good enough :)

I was kind of intrigued by the thought of you doing a face reveal. I usually don't watch faceless videos. But your content is good and your avatar is sufficient to add personality to the videos. In some ways that adds more personality since you've created and animated the avatar yourself.

its wild to think how much weight people put onto something like this whether to do or not to do. either way - appreciate your content always and thanks for what you do

I’m in the never show your face category; you’ll end up like dream

We watch for your melodeous hypnotic voice narrative!

As I was listening to all the reasons FOR having a facecam, I was REALLY hoping at the end of the video Mad would say “and that being said….I’m STILL not showing you freaks my face”. 😂

Its your show, your rules, your life. I enjoy the content you provide mate. Please keep it up. Nuance is hard to find these days.

For me, it was always up to personal choice of the person. If they want to do a face cam, cool, if they don't, cool. Back then tho, I did have a problem of talking down those who hid behind models and stuff such as Vtubers for example, because I didn't know the significance of face cam streamers and it didn't feel definitive of what the person wants and want to fake themselves instead. Ironically, I actually grew to like these Vtubers aswell and started understanding the reasons people have for anonymousity.

Bro gonna end up like Dream don’t do it 😂

you are pretty much the only guy here i watch on 1.0 instead of 1.25. i just like the voice, it calms me thanks pal

This sort of video is exactly why I watch, regardless of whatever you choose to do

I think you're correct, for the type of video essays you do a face cam wouldn't really improve the experience. If you did streaming and react content, however, things would be different. As a casual watcher of your videos and internet weirdo who doesn't use much social media (except for KZfaq if that counts as such) I hope you keep your anonymity.

I’ll never get tired of hearing that opening sound ❤️

Pfffh! We all know that your helmet is your actual face! Anyways I really enjoy your videos, especially your video-essays ;) Hope you are doing good and that your future is looking good :D

I like to just listen to you. I wouldn't mind the face cam, but you're just a chill voice to listen to and gain insight from while gaming.

Face reveals remove the degree of seperation which can cause additional downsides to both the content creator and the viewers. I'm personally in the camp which appreciates the anonymity aspect of internet more than less. Though maybe there is a middle ground where use of avatar representation of the creator can be leveraged more - in your case it's the player avatar in the iconic armour combination.

I don't know if it's because that I'm on the spectrum, but I never cared for face reveals online. It's not like I'm dating you, I'm not here to get to know you personally in real life, I'm here to interact with your online persona, the things you put forth and the subjects you discuss. It may sound cold but I think it's actually the opposite, anything else just seems similar to ad hominem to me. It's like when you invite people to your group in WoW, you don't care what their job is in real life, you care about what's actually relevant. On the internet you have a certain freedom to have people engage with the parts of you that you actually want them to engage with, and I prefer it that way. It isn't as tainted, it can be more sincere and pure and productive.

thought the opening music was pilotwings nes for JUST A SECOND - enjoyable vid as always

Just go all in on Vtubing as lilmads, you can get really nice rigging done for such a simple chibi character, and the community will be super down for it. Can even have toggles to give him massive biceps, since we all know you're secret identity is Chad Season

The helm of endless rage is the only face we need.❤️

Either way is fine for me, honestly. I like the way you do your videos, though. I was worried that you were going to do a face reveal due to being pressured. Glad you are continuing to do what you want to do. Always love the videos man 👍

Hey man. Im so happy ure back, i have allways liked all u contents. U are absolutely one of the Best in what u are doing, when it comes to gaming. I dont care how u looks, u know i have this little wow warriorguy with t he helmet on, thats enough for me. And u voice is like calming,and the fact that u know what ure talking about is enough for me. Ure allso friendly in the way u behave.. i mean what more can anyone ask . I ❤u and always loking forward to u next movie. My Best regards fatherzuljin.

love the more content lately Season!

I am glad no face reveal because it would interfere with the relationship I have with my MasSeason plushie!

You have great content. Do what you want and keep creating.

I think lacking a face cam works for the long form video essay content that you did before your break. The new videos you are putting out "react to ___" having a facecam increases your reaction to it. Also, honestly it is just free content you dont need to edit in the same classic wow trailers or video footage that's been re-used a dozen times.

Loop hero has a really catchy soundtrack, immediately recognizable, big ups to you, Mr. Show!

The music vibes from your videos combined with your voice makes for videos I feel a sorta way about. An etherealness I enjoy. If I may ask, what's the opening sting from?

Well I can definitely tell you got a new and much better mic recently!

I don't think Dream -- regretted showing his face, the allegations on the other hand lol

No camera is necessary if the content is not "personal". No cam only adds to the quality of enjoying the content that's - created. We appreciate you and your work MadSeason. Keep it up; and while I know you've been over one significant dark patch (that I/we know of) and I know that you you know it - don't ever feel like your contributions are either worthless or uninteresting. We are here because of your mix of truth, comedy and curiousness. May Elune guide your path.

I like your personality Madseason!

I so glad you decided not too. Love your videos just the way they are love that you’ve gotten back to WoW’s most interesting players and hope you get to Azeroth arsenal. And your “Your story” video’s love those. They got me into WoW in my mid 30’s I’ve always been into it. Just never tried to play. Thanks for everything brother you videos are more important to people than you think I’m sure.

I'M A SIMPLE MAN, I SEE MADSEASON UPLOAD, I CLICK

Keep doing what you're doing mate.

The face cam would take away from the golden monotone voice that we all love.

If the Internet knew I was really a dude I would lose so much money. Lol

Keep the anonymity! We ❤ your voice!

Keep the voice and the content, I'm happy!

Such a chill dude. Be seeing you.

I preffer to have that helm in mind than a real face

I think one thing madseason kinda forgot to mention in regards to the "meta" of facecamming is vtubing. It's a good middle ground between having that on screen presence of an individual to drive personality based content, while also managing to keep a bit of anonymity in regards to one's appearance. Of course, larger vtubers tend to have their actual face shown at some point, be it through "leaks" from other individuals or as a result of their own choice, but there are also plenty of vtubers out there who don't show their face in any capacity at all.

"Told you so, by the way." - MadSeason.

It's nice that there's still channels that want to stay anonymoua.

I read the title and went "Oh god Is he going to show his face" exactly as predicted 11:00

This is THE BIGGEST DEAL for a reason unknown to me! LOL

Stay safe madseason, we love you without a face

I like the way you produce your videos, documentary style and a voice that is now akin to David Attenborough's.. we know the voice and no need for a face. Good job.

Good video, the only thing missing was a car tumbling down ramps in the bottom half of my screen.

I remember back in a day every forum had irl pic section... it was kinda cool to see those people you spend so much time... I used to be on forums all the time

What weirds me out are the people who go to such insane lengths to try and uncover who people are or "expose" them to the world. Meanwhile if we did that to them, they'd cry foul and claim you're invading their privacy. Just because you're a public figure; doesn't mean we are owed any more personal information about you than what you feel like sharing. I'm a private person too, you would struggle to find out who I actually am without knowing someone in my family or from my past. I simply don't have social media and don't have posts actually identifying who I am, or much personal info, as the internet is full of psychos. In fact, if I were to do videos again, I'd also end up just doing videos with no facecam. It's not even just a privacy thing, but it's also a pain in the ass to have to record on top of editing all the shit you actually care about. The only real downfall for someone so concerned about their privacy is when a friend of theirs ALSO has a popular channel and gives much more information about themselves, to where it becomes a lot easier to figure out who the private person likely is. An example being H2ODelirious and Cartoonz. Keep making the awesome content though. As someone who worked on a production line, listening to podcasts and Howard Stern was more than enough to keep me entertained all day long, so I'm definitely in that category where I kind of enjoy interpreting how a person might look or react in certain situations, sort of like when you read or listen to a book. Game Grumps was also a channel I always loved, and they aren't even private people, they just prefer being able to lounge about looking 'ugly' while they just record their voices. Anyways, ramble over.

we're here for you, your vibes and awesome WoW stuff