I hate everything post-Tabletop circa 2016. Sad days.

BrknSoul i noticed that. I kept screaming at the screen that they were getting it wrong until i noticed the popup of it was different from what sat on the table. Why thats wrong? Who knows.

Perhaps there are two Mooncalf beasts in the Beasts Deck.

Yep. That threw me for a bit, too.

Nah it's totally a coincidence 🤣

The game is broken if you keep them, two people that can always play "beast rolls two less dice" makes it to easy and boring. The instructions that come with the game leave many things unclear.

Who?

😉

That doesn't sound right, since you're supposed to become more adept against a particular beast as you play.

That's what I thought too. We just never got very far and stopped playing. I found this video and went...ohhh...we've been playing it wrong. Much more fun now.

I think, since you can choose to reroll any number of dice by placing or setting aside after a normal roll, it makes sense that the reroll card would follow the same mechanic.

I can see the logic to that, but to me there is a difference. On the 'regular reroll' you are actually getting three rolls, and choosing how many dice to retain as their current result and how many to forfeit the result. Under this form of ruling, you are always using all three given rolls... it is just that you might choose to be rolling zero dice for the third or even the second roll. However, if the 'regular reroll' is an actuall reroll ('you roll once and can choose to reroll any dice from that roll, and can then choose to reroll any dice from that reroll - for a total limit of two rerolls') then there would need to be some specific rules in the manual. Typically (with any game) a reroll would mean 'ignore the result on the die and replace it with the new rolled result'. Thus, the 'beast reaction' would only trigger if it was kept... or if the manual specified something like 'the beast reaction triggers when rolled - even if the teal die is chosen to be rerolled'. After a quick skim online, I don't see a manual (USAoppoly site or Board Game Geek) so I can't read it and say how I would interpret (my opinion) the wording. All I can do is speculate based on the typical use of the word 'reroll' in games I have played. In most situations where the dice are to always have their results applied before 'rerolling' the rule book will instead say 'roll again'. I have seen some games that used 'reroll' as a 'roll again'... but they are more difficult to follow rules that may also be ambiguous with some rules explanations, so my group has to house rule which meaning to go with. ---- In the end, what I am saying is that my games group has been trained to interpret 'reroll' to mean that the face of the dice does not apply until all possible rerolls have been used up. Meanwhile, 'roll again' would mean that we apply all faces unless the rules specify that they are not applied between rolls - which in the case of this game would mean that only the reaction could be applied since no other results actually trigger until the the 'activate die' step. On that note... my group would closely check the rule on when insight cards can be used. Because if their dice values are to be treated as rolled dice... then they could only be assigned during the 'assign dice' step and thus any insight cards gained during that turn could not be used since the 'assign dice' step was already past. However, if the cards can be applied 'at any time during a players turn' then we would pull tricks like holding two wild cards and then when the triple capture activates the die is removed from it... then we play the wild card to that triple capture, which activates again and thus removes the card... and then we would play the second wild to the same triple capture. Basically, if the rules are too open then my group will take advantage of it. We have a few games that we implemented house rules to stop some shenanigans that we thought were unbalancing. --- Now I really want to read the rule book...

The beast reaction is, I believe, an instant, immediate (re)action which interrupts everything & butts its way in there between rolls. That face on that die is the only thing which ever actually applies anything; the rest are simply passive resources to spend or discard. This means that rerolling the teal die is risky because you could potentially hit 3 reactions for each turn & you'd take the damage from all of them. It creates a nice risk/reward dynamic. When it comes to those insight cards, it does seem like they can also be played at any time, as instants, proven by being able to cancel that beast reaction die. The situation with reactivating can't happen, since you can only ever do that once per turn per action type (capture 1, insight, etc). Once you've activated those abilities once, they're spent for the turn. I don't know the exact wording of the rules, but this much I picked up by watching this playthrough & it seems to work as it should, & as would make sense (except for that issue with the assigning dice to others from an unreadied ability which they fixed later in the video & was making things a bit too easy). So, both your definitions of a reroll fit for this game, the special exception being the beast reaction face on the teal die.

The woman playing Tina rolled an Insight symbol on her third roll. The hostess then played that die on Queenie's board because Queenie had her Insight readied and set. Queenie would then be able to activate the die and draw an Insight card in the actvation phase of Tina's turn. However, this was an error because Tina didn't have her Insight readied and set. See page 7 of the rule book, rule 2 - Assign Dice, the last paragraph. I would say that it wasn't cheating, just a rule error.

I've never watched more than 20% of any of these Becca episodes. I pop in every few months out of morbid curiosity and sadness for 1 minute then leave.

Well, it isn't TableTop, so you shouldn't expect it to be TableTop. Do you always comment on missing shows while watching a different show?

@@PuzzleBox83 yes

But Becca literally introduced him as that... So it has been addressed, he had his moment, and we are moving on.

even with the mistakes as with any new game being learned, it was still fun to watch and is on my current wishlist :)

No the animated card is wrong, if y look on the table u can see the right die for escape. I thought the same too until I did a double take.

Okay, 1) Totally different show. 2) They're putting it on KZfaq as advertising for their shows, not to actually get views and make money on KZfaq. Commenters need to at least need to think one layer below the surface.

Began once Tabletop ended, rotating cast, same host, it's a replacement.

First episode of GtG was on OCTOBER 29, 2015 (based on the geek and sundry page). Last episode of table top was SEPTEMBER 27, 2017 (based on the geek and sundry page). Game the game wasn't a replacement they existed at same time for almost 2 years. Tabletop died when Will left geek and sundry, GtG survived and became bigger as a result of no competition. I think everyone liked table top more but people need to stop crying that its gone in ever GtG comment section.

Will completly left? So no Titans Grave Season 2 ever? I always hoped that atleast this would come :(

Yea. Part of the deal of selling GaS was that it wouldn't go behind a pay wall. When so much content went to alpha only he got pissed and walked out on the company.

Becca's so much nicer and friendlier than wil.

We noticed a big goof. You all left the three capture set at all times, especially at the end. After using a three capture you have to completely re-set and re-activate it in all sections not just with dice. There’s no way in less than a round you all could capture it 9-10 times.

Femshep is true shep

I agree

I disagree. Sometimes, the interactions between the players on TableTop felt forced to me, too. If anything, I’ll say it felt like they were having more fun at least.

I also miss Will... but not so much for the dynamic, but because there seemed to be less game play mistakes (that is just my perception of it) and there were plenty of times when the mistakes got corrected. Watching this series... I would say there are typically 1-4 times per game where I want to check a rule book on an action that was taken.

I just felt like Will was more charismatic.

The power of editing, my friend. Tabletop relied a lot on post-game commentary from the players, so the jokes could probably be thought out and made a little better. That left the players with the chance to relax a little more when the game itself was happening.

Reika nice essay...

I disagree.... the point of these videos is not to sell the game, because geek and sundry doesn't get anything for selling the games.... the point of these videos is just to play it and have fun with friends. It's no different than a let's play on any other channel. They're not trying to sell you the game unless they get Sponsored for that episode. They just want you to watch them have fun playing it. I like that they presented it with people who don't know the lore, because really, the lore isn't important.... Sure, it adds a neat flare, but you could reskin this game with any number of different lores and it would play the same. It's like the Betrayal games. They've got House on the Hill and Baldur's Gate.... ultimately, they're the same game, but 1 is set in a haunted mansion, the other is set in and around a high fantasy tavern. Other than the Omens, you could mix and match all of the cards with no hassle because they function the same... and the only reason you couldn't mix the Omens is that you would need to write new haunts to match them. Also, I don't think anybody should be expected to learn a language just to play a board game. And if you don't know how to pronounce a word in a language you don't speak, it's better to take a fun spin on it instead of beating yourself up. We have a guy at work who speaks excellent English despite not living here most of his life, but every now and then he'll mess up a word and we always try to get him to have fun with his mess ups. For example (weird one, but very memorable) he was joking about making Mint Flavored Anal Beads but he said "Bits" and we corrected him but we keep him joking about anal bits so that he doesn't feel like it's disrespectful to get a word wrong... cause at the end of the day, it's just a word

The thing is though that they get the game from the makers for free. These videos are promotion for the company. That's why they make sure to plug the maker of the game. Geek and Sundry is also owned by a big production company now which allows for more production and such and means they have to pay appearance fees for guests. That's how entertainment and LA works. Even for small actors or entertainers or personalities. This isn't a small KZfaq channel made in someone's garage anymore. Everyone you see is being paid to be there. They also get business for appearing because they plug their social media and other projects. Fans of theirs will also watch because they're in it. No one in these is just friends that come over. They get paid for their time and there are contracts. The show is shot in a studio. If you actually think someone just shows up at a studio for a day of shooting at a company owned by Legendary Pictures and doesn't expect a paycheck, you don't value artists and entertainers enough. They should rightfully be paid for their time, but I also expect them to research at least a little bit what they're being paid for. Like take 30 seconds to watch a trailer. Even with Tabletop, there would be behind the scenes glimpses where Wil would talk about how sometimes they would get developer requests to feature a game or when screening games they ask the makers about featuring it. They've had makers come on to play their own games as well. There's actual money involved in this, and I'm just saying that this doesn't respect that business relationship in the way that it should by having the guests do zero research before coming on. For Tabletop, the guests used to comment on how they got an app or some other thing to try out before coming on and you know, do some research before their appearance. It makes the guest look better to in the eyes of the viewer to have some semblance of an idea of what's happening and connect to the audience. You're right that in normal situations you don't have to know about a franchise, but honestly as a consumer yourself, do you imagine yourself buying a game with a franchise's skin on it if you don't like that franchise? Maybe you are one, but realistically not a lot of people would invest in that. There's a lot of things people actually like that they would rather spend their money on. Franchise licenses are also serious business one wrong connection can hurt the brand and Fantastic Beasts is already hurting a bit because Johnny Depp is still in it. Legendary knows this, so I'm shocked that this video wasn't better. Also, this specific franchise has a movie coming out very soon that is highly anticipated and search optimization for "Harry Potter" or "Fantastic Beasts" is super high and will algorithmically show up on KZfaq to Harry Potter fans giving G&S clicks and ad revenue, which is actually a pittance for KZfaq. That's why Patreon and the new membership feature exists. They totally still made this video to capitalize on those clicks, but if you're gonna do it, make the video good. There are HP fans that are legit going to be more angry about this than me. And a person doesn't have to study a whole language to play a game, but her pronunciation was noticeably bad to the point her producers pointed it out to her during shooting the rule segment, she admitted it in the episode, and a guest pointed it out. There's a point where maybe you should pause and spend a few minutes on Google just to get it into the ballpark. And that's the thing. She was so out of the ballpark sometimes the words weren't recognizable. Your coworker makes mistakes, but is close enough everyone gets it and it's no bother. Becca was horribly bad. I've met students who had terrible Japanese pronunciation who have taken classes and while what they say is off, they still get the vowels right and can manage to get into the ballpark where people can understand the word they're trying to say. The gripes I have are even easy to fix within a few minutes, but they didn't even try. That's what's the worst thing. Just not even bothering to try and being flippant about it. And look, at the end of the day, I'm giving constructive criticism here. I like this channel and I want it to be better. I've followed it for years, but I'm not naive to what it takes to make something like this. There's business here and how they handled this transaction was a fumble. But normally when they make a mistake, they get a whole lot of trolls who make shitty snappy one liners and might be mean for the sake of being mean, so they can't tell when something is legit something they should think about. All I'm saying is they need to really try harder to connect with their regular audience, the people they try to get through clearly timed clickbait, and also their business partners. They really need to try harder.

And this video was marked with "paid promotion inside" even. It is another weak video (half way through now) after a few that were much better. And since it is not just me, there is something going on, probably the wrong group for the game.

That's exactly how I felt whenever they tried to play Magic... And I'm like... at least Sean Day9 knows how to PLAY, though lately his 'guests' have been extremely cringey and that needs to stop.

Life sucks. G&S post 2016 sucks more.

it's because you're pathetic.

an im not buying what your sellinga, stop hating

jo holloway Wow, not even two letters in and I hit thumbs down as a reaction to the way you were typing!

Becca is cringy

perhaps the real infinity gays are the friends we made along the way

................. Who are you

they fixed that half way through the show

Strange I dont remember seeing that in the rules. Remember reading that you can just share.

You're correct. I noticed the error at 21:48 of the game. If that's the mistake that you're referring to.