Fantastic Four (2005) - The Worst Marvel Movie?

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Жыл бұрын

What is it about Fantastic Four that’s made it such a cursed property as far as movies go? In this episode of Marvel Revisited, we dig into 2005’s Fantastic Four, which was 20th Century Fox’s attempt to spawn another superhero saga that could complement their X-Men movies. While a big enough financial hit to merit a sequel, in hindsight, many consider this to be the nadir of superhero movies. Hilariously, it’s one of several bad Fantastic Four movies, with Roger Corman infamously making an unreleased version in the nineties that was so bad it’s never gotten a legitimate release. Then, of course, there was Josh Trank’s “gritty” version from 2015, which torpedoed a few careers. To many, 2005’s Fantastic Four is considered the worst of the bunch, but what exactly went wrong?
Indeed, the thing people remember most about the movie is the cast, which isn’t all that bad. While Ioan Gruffudd and Jessica Alba are considered a little too bland to have played Reed Richards and Sue Storm, at the time, Chris Evans’s portrayal of Johnny Storm was widely acclaimed. It may have paved the way for him to play Captain America for the MCU years later. Michael Chiklis also earned strong reviews for playing The Thing, although many hated Julian McMahon (then riding high on the success of Nip/Tuck) as Dr. Doom. Some also criticized the choice of Barbershop’s Tim Story as director, given the perceived scale of the film. Still, considering the types of movies Fox was delivering in the era, it’s not like he would ever be allowed to make an epic anyway. So join us as we look back at this often-forgotten early entry into the Marvel cinematic canon.
Is the 2005 Fantastic Four as bad as everyone remembers? Let us know in the comments!
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@wstine79
@wstine79 Жыл бұрын
I have a soft spot for this version of the Fantastic four. They all looked apart and had a fun charm. Michael Chiklis and Chris Evans were the best parts of the team.
@chasehedges6775
@chasehedges6775 Жыл бұрын
I agree. It was fun and Chris Evans was sooo good in his pre Captain America Days
@TidusX16
@TidusX16 Жыл бұрын
@@chasehedges6775 I don't know if remember Push but I think that was released right before he took up the Shield.
@bishop31656
@bishop31656 Жыл бұрын
@@chasehedges6775 im just going to say "Losers" Skippy from Tech Support....
@okidokicreations1075
@okidokicreations1075 Жыл бұрын
Me too ,i like it,
@englandkeepitreal
@englandkeepitreal Жыл бұрын
I have a hard spot for Jessica Alba in this movie 😉
@bijanarmstrong318
@bijanarmstrong318 Жыл бұрын
People need to put some respect on the Fantastic Four (2005) movie because this was a CLASSIC. I was so OBSESSED with this movie as a kid and I’m still am. The casting was AMAZING, decent plot/storyline, Julian McMahon as Doom, and Chris Evans (The Human Torch) stole the SHOW. ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
@ajg8722
@ajg8722 Жыл бұрын
Fax
@DavidMartinez-ce3lp
@DavidMartinez-ce3lp Жыл бұрын
True
@MogusMasterSaikawa22
@MogusMasterSaikawa22 Жыл бұрын
That’s adorable ^^
@SumDumGy
@SumDumGy Жыл бұрын
Your obsession doesn’t designate anything a classic, nor earn it respect. I’m not talking down on the movie. I hardly remember it. It not even in the bottom five of Marvel/Marvel based movies, but your personal feelings in it are not objective to what it is or deserves.
@shadowleon659
@shadowleon659 Жыл бұрын
I don't think that this film is as bad as many people say it is. It's a flawed, but still a fun and entertaining film. The four cast members, especially Michael Chiklis and Chris Evans, gave solid performances as The Fantastic Four and the chemistry between them was spot on. Julian McMann's Dr Doom may have a Norman Osborne clone, but atleast he was a charismatic yet threatening bad guy and unlike Tobey Kebell from Fant4stic, there was atleast build up and development for his villainy. I also loved the fact that the movie's moral was about family and turning their biggest weaknesses into their greatest strengths. In conclusion, the Tim Story Fantastic Four films weren't perfect, but atleast the makers of these films tried.
@tonyclemens4213
@tonyclemens4213 Жыл бұрын
Compared to the 2015 Fantastic Four these movies are works of genius
@Oonagh72
@Oonagh72 Жыл бұрын
I loved both of these Fantastic Four films. The issue was that it has so much filler. It has a really good story and a very strong cast. I was able to feel what they wanted me to feel. I got invested. Yet somehow the dialogue was so clunky. I wanted a third film. It would have been great b
@haroldnecmann7040
@haroldnecmann7040 Жыл бұрын
FLAME ON! 🔥
@aaronhenderson84
@aaronhenderson84 Жыл бұрын
imo the second one was better, so i would have also liked to have seen a part 3. sadly Hollywood went they way of reboots and yeah... there was a reboot of the first 2005 film if you didn't know (i think lots are trying to forget about it since it was accolades worse than the worst criticisms of this version)
@biguy617
@biguy617 Жыл бұрын
How can you love the Sliver Surfer movie when it turned Galactus into a CLOUD?!! A CLOUD!! I hated that movie. The first movie maybe decent but the second was garbage.
@jackdriver9227
@jackdriver9227 Жыл бұрын
​@@biguy617 I'd say it was great but I agree with the galactus side of it that's all I had issues with
@mutantx2372
@mutantx2372 Жыл бұрын
I was obsessed with this movie when I was in my teens. Before the movie came out I would always play teaser trailer on over and over again on the Elektra dvd. Fantastic Four while not a perfect movie by any means it's still fun.
@JadedMax
@JadedMax 8 ай бұрын
I liked them both a lot more back when I saw them in the theater. I still like them, there's just been so many really good superhero movies that came after them.
@WaldoBagelTopper
@WaldoBagelTopper Жыл бұрын
Im so happy to see so many positive comments about this movie. All I ever heard for years is about how "bad" it was. I enjoyed it. Sometimes you can appreciate things for different reasons. You KNOW this is what we all pictured when we thought about this kind of stuff as kids.
@andrewadams4815
@andrewadams4815 10 ай бұрын
Yeah they were too harsh and despite that it was still a box office smash no drop offs after the second week unlike 2003’s Hulk and Daredevil (both good Marvel Movies but both suffered drops after the second week sadly). For many years one of the reasons it was seen as bad is cause the director also directed barbershop as if that was a reason to call this film bad this was more faithful to the comics than critics give it credit for and despite the changes in origin McMahon was still Doom from the comics they just changed the outdated origin comics Doom had does it matter if Doom is caught in the same accident as the FF as long as everything else stays intact I’m fine with it.
@paulroman3668
@paulroman3668 Жыл бұрын
This movie was the camp needed at the time. It still holds a special place in my heart.
@Rick_Dalton18
@Rick_Dalton18 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic 4 made my childhood wholesome & Phase 4 making my adulthood haunting
@Robert_Prather
@Robert_Prather Жыл бұрын
I always liked this version and I thought that it worked. I collected the comics as a kid and think they got really close to how a Fantastic Four movie should be.. esp. for the time. I think critics judged this way too harshly.
@patfer1189
@patfer1189 Жыл бұрын
The movie was certainly made for a family audience and it isn't groundbreaking in any way. However, considering the obsession nowadays to "deconstruct" characters or "subvert expectations", and how Marvel slowly but surely keeps moving away from trying to be accurate to its own properties and fans, in retrospect this F4 movie was a masterpiece.
@rapbattlefan2008
@rapbattlefan2008 7 ай бұрын
I would say this movie did NOT deserve the hatred it got. With your analysis, I’d say this movie was ahead of its time.
@jermainehaslam5634
@jermainehaslam5634 Жыл бұрын
This movie is decent in my opinion and I love Michael Chiklis's performance as Ben Grimm. Michael Chiklis makes you feel sympathy for his character and he has good chemistry with Ioan Gruffudd as well in my opinion.
@TidusX16
@TidusX16 Жыл бұрын
I had huge crush on Jessica Alba as a kid when I saw this movie. I've grown to like it more as I got older, the same with Batman and Robin. It's one of those dumb fun style movies.
@chasehedges6775
@chasehedges6775 Жыл бұрын
Jessica Alba was soooo attractive in this movie and this movie was pretty decent
@wstine79
@wstine79 Жыл бұрын
She was so hot. Even when she was outlined invisible.
@englandkeepitreal
@englandkeepitreal Жыл бұрын
Only bad part was when she was invisible 😉
@boydcochran4692
@boydcochran4692 4 ай бұрын
We all crushed on her lol
@ethankillion786
@ethankillion786 Жыл бұрын
The casting is perfect. Chiklis is an Fantastic Four fan and Stan Lee said his was his favorite Marvel performance. I imagine his voice when I read Fantastic Four comics.
@darian858
@darian858 Жыл бұрын
Who Cares what critics say. These Movies were pretty fun.
@jeremyriley1238
@jeremyriley1238 Ай бұрын
I agree. Heck, if I had to choose between the 2005 film and the 2015 reboot, I will always choose the 2005 Fantastic Four.
@ak-ub1ym
@ak-ub1ym Жыл бұрын
These movies kinda suffered from spiderman movie effect since it had too many parallels with em. But the marvel movies at the time were a pretty good adaptations of comic version of heroes.
@gusparkwood4890
@gusparkwood4890 Жыл бұрын
I still stand by Chiklis as Ben after all these years. He was The Best Part about These Films and I really hope Marvel gets Him for The Reboot. His Voice for the Thing is still the one I hear reading The Comics Today
@shawndemetrios7899
@shawndemetrios7899 Жыл бұрын
I think both of these movies are awesome. Michael Chiklis and Chris Evans were perfectly cast .
@Zombiesnyder13
@Zombiesnyder13 Жыл бұрын
It breaks my heart how oblivious Stan Lee was on how AVI ARAD have been ruining his characters
@chasehedges6775
@chasehedges6775 Жыл бұрын
Poor Stan Lee….
@giovannifierros806
@giovannifierros806 Жыл бұрын
I Hate Avi Arad!
@lutherheggs451
@lutherheggs451 Жыл бұрын
Nah clearly Stan Lee wasn't as sad and pathetic as some fanboys and realized that they're just funny books and didn't take them so seriously....
@giovannifierros806
@giovannifierros806 Жыл бұрын
@@lutherheggs451 Are you trying to say Stan Lee isn’t a good man?!?!
@erikthewriter
@erikthewriter Жыл бұрын
I always loved this movie. I saw it in the Cinema and personally think the Director’s cut is as good as anything made today.
@SumDumGy
@SumDumGy Жыл бұрын
Today? Yes. Five years or more ago? No.
@seereadnhear
@seereadnhear Жыл бұрын
I swear if you look closely at the Fantastic Four by Tim Story in today's standards it's almost close to blueprint Marvel Studios Style. From the late 2010s.
@thescales18
@thescales18 Жыл бұрын
Compared to that POS 2015 version, I'll take this any day. Also, I really love this movie.
@marlonclark1896
@marlonclark1896 Жыл бұрын
same
@NolanWins
@NolanWins Жыл бұрын
I grew up with these movies, I love them, I know there not great, but I still love them
@haroldnecmann7040
@haroldnecmann7040 Жыл бұрын
I'd watch them at least twice a year
@NolanWins
@NolanWins Жыл бұрын
@@haroldnecmann7040 pretty much the same for me
@Mithrandir39
@Mithrandir39 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for covering this movie.I really enjoyed this movie when it came out and I still do. FF was always my favorite comic as a kid and I was so happy when they made this. Is it perfect? No, but I don't have to have a perfect movie to enjoy myself. The actors were great and the feel for family was there. Torch and Thing bickering and playing pranks I remember from the comics and it was fun to watch it. Evens and Chiklis were the best and McMahon was a great "bad guy" So not perfect but a very good origin story and solid acting overall does not a bad movie make. Sorry critics, you are wrong on this one. It felt like the comics to me. Not as campy as the "66 Batman but just some fun and serious threat to bring them all together. I can't wait for the MCU version as I hope to see even better movie then. Have fun just watching this one peoples.
@ChristianFrates1997
@ChristianFrates1997 Жыл бұрын
I’m pretty sure the MCU one will be SJW junk.
@DavidMartinez-ce3lp
@DavidMartinez-ce3lp Жыл бұрын
Given how phase 4 has turned out, I have no hope for the MCU Fantastic Four film.
@matthewk122
@matthewk122 Жыл бұрын
I like both Jessica Alba and Chris Evan as Sue storm and Johnny storm
@timwong5908
@timwong5908 Жыл бұрын
3:51 it interesting the video made no comment about the odd casting of Jessica Alba as Sue Storm. Don't get me wrong, she's a beauty but doesn't fit the character.
@dukenightrider6104
@dukenightrider6104 6 ай бұрын
For me, the film wasn’t that bad but I think there are 3 things that could have made the film work. 1. instead of Dr. Doom as the main villain, have mole man as the main villain. Sure keep Dr. doom in the movie but have him be built up as the main villain for a later film and have it where mole man helps doom escape to latveria. 2. More action. One of the biggest criticisms I have with this film was the lack of action. The four should have been fighting more crime and we should have seen more action, and if mole man was the main villain, they should have fought his monsters that he would bring out to take over the city. And 3. Have the story focus on Ben Grimm. The thing was truly the best part of the film and I think it be better along with the origin story, have Ben go through a character arc where he learns people should love him for who he is on the inside, not the outside. His story in this film was the best part and I think if they put the focus on that, it would have been so much better. If they done that, then they could have made 3 more sequels. And yes this movie series should have had 4 films in total as I think it would have been fitting and each on focusing on each member. With this one focusing on the thing with everything I just described, the next one being rise of the silver surfer and focusing on Johnny learning humility and protecting the world from evil is more important than fame. Also galactus should have been a giant man like in the comics not a cloud monster, the 3rd one focusing on sue where she learns their lives will never be normal and learns to embrace it along with the people that care about her as they help black panther (since he was originally pitch to be in the 3rd fantastic four film) stop a war between wakanda and namor and Atlantis cause by klaw, and the 4th one where it focuses on reed and doom’s relationship where then Dr. Doom is the main villain and is completely like his comic book counterpart. Thats how I would do it if I was in charge of the fantastic four films.
@SonicHedgehog1991
@SonicHedgehog1991 Жыл бұрын
I don't care what everyone said about this movie and its sequel, they'll forever be one of my favorite movies of all time.
@THAGFC
@THAGFC Жыл бұрын
I miss 2005 and being a teen 😢
@LeonardoKlotz
@LeonardoKlotz Жыл бұрын
I knew how awful the live-action TOM & JERRY was gonna be when I found out it was gonna be directed by Tim Story
@danbauer3669
@danbauer3669 Жыл бұрын
Dr. Doom is supposed to be a scientist, a sorcerer and a monarch. They just made him a dumb arrogant businessman in this movie, rather than an arrogant genius. Doom needs his own movie separate from the Fantastic Four to be done properly.
@evilryu05
@evilryu05 Жыл бұрын
I love the "modern" look of Doctor Doom in this movie. Best Doom look so far.
@Isaacisaperson4677
@Isaacisaperson4677 8 ай бұрын
God no comic doom is perfect and needs no changes
@myretronation
@myretronation Жыл бұрын
HARDLY the worst Marvel movie this is “average” or “mediocre”, definitely not “bad” “Bad” is reserved for movies like Elektra, Ghost Rider, and Fant4stic
@kaylemjoseph8727
@kaylemjoseph8727 Жыл бұрын
guilty pleasure and no where near the worse.
@chasehedges6775
@chasehedges6775 Жыл бұрын
Agreed
@EVGriffinJr
@EVGriffinJr Жыл бұрын
Agreed! Could’ve been better? Yes! The worst?! Nowhere near! Go see fantastic four 2015 or better yet anything from the current MCU!
@kaylemjoseph8727
@kaylemjoseph8727 Жыл бұрын
@@EVGriffinJr true lol
@kaylemjoseph8727
@kaylemjoseph8727 Жыл бұрын
@@EVGriffinJr wasnt a fan of rise of silver surfer though silver surfer was the best thing about that film.
@braxtonwages195
@braxtonwages195 Жыл бұрын
Here’s my hot take. The first FF was the rough prototype to the formula that would be the MCU movies.
@allendean9807
@allendean9807 Жыл бұрын
I’d still love to see a film based in the early 60’s….
@ringokageyama6439
@ringokageyama6439 Жыл бұрын
I have been waiting for over a decade to see a fight between The Thing & The Hulk.
@williamoates3831
@williamoates3831 Жыл бұрын
The scene where Ben grins and says Flame On Johnny as he's circling Doom lives rent free in my head
@WarioSaysSo
@WarioSaysSo Жыл бұрын
Worst Marvel movie? This is not that bad to be THE worst one. I can give 5 movies that are worse. I would nominate; # Electra (2005) oh same year (!) # Fan4stick (2015) # Captain Marvel (2019) # Captain America (1990) # Dark Phoenix (2019) NOTE: Michael Chiklis was a perfect casting of The Thing.
@braxtonwages195
@braxtonwages195 Жыл бұрын
I’m going to be honest here. I don’t hate this movie at all I think it’s very entertaining and the actors do a great job embodying their comic book counterparts. Especially Michael Chiklis and Chris Evans. The only thing that doesn’t work is Doctor Doom. They really screwed him up. His costume design and his revamped origin which was just a carbon copy of Norman Osborn from the first Spider-Man. Doom’s design was much cooler in ROTSS.
@KlaelDemon
@KlaelDemon Жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed this movie for what it was, would love to see you guys cover the sequel. Cheers 🥂
@SumDumGy
@SumDumGy Жыл бұрын
This *is* the first outing of The Fantastic Four. a stated, Roger Corman’s film was never released. It was never intended to be released. It can’t be counted. I can think of several examples of Marvel films that are worse than this one. It’s not even in the bottom five. This film was made by 20th Century FOX, not 20th Century Studios. 20th Century Studios didn’t yet exist. “Marvel has always done way too much leg work...” You do realize that it was FOX that made this movie because they owned the rights and Marvel didn’t yet even have its own studio, right? Marvel didn’t make a movie at all until 2008. No, we have *no* expectations of Kevin Feige and the MCU. Not anymore. I’m not lore expert but I think Latveria is Doom’s country, not town.
@Crimson28
@Crimson28 Жыл бұрын
7:45 Who does your research? X-Men came out in 2000 and FF came out in 2005. James Marsden and Rebecca Romijn both starred in X-Men and X2 way before before FF premiered. Is this the same person who thought Methos on Highlander the Series was pronounced as “METOSS”?
@Omar-wq9dz
@Omar-wq9dz Жыл бұрын
We could have had good Fantastic Four movies, but they were not meant to be. Chris Columbus tried making one, which had a good script. There was also a good script from the early 2000s by Doug Petrie. Also, the earlier draft of the 2015 film was apparently really good
@thecunninlynguist
@thecunninlynguist Жыл бұрын
I only saw it for Jessica alba...ngl. friends and I saw both in theaters
@chasehedges6775
@chasehedges6775 Жыл бұрын
She was soooo hot in the film.
@agentofchaos7456
@agentofchaos7456 Жыл бұрын
The 2015 version is much worse overall.
@chasehedges6775
@chasehedges6775 Жыл бұрын
💯💯💯
@chasehedges6775
@chasehedges6775 Жыл бұрын
Definitely! Glad I never saw it
@EVGriffinJr
@EVGriffinJr Жыл бұрын
Way worse! In fact, some of the stuff in the current run of the MCU makes even that version look like Oscar gold!
@sonicx0846
@sonicx0846 Жыл бұрын
I recently re watched FF4 (2005) and the film is far from perfect but it has a odd charm to it in a good way.
@guybroyles48
@guybroyles48 Жыл бұрын
How long has it been since the FF was even successful as a comic book? I'm 48 and I've never seen a time when they were that relevant. I was a kid in the 80s when Miller and Moore and all that hit. The X-Men, Wolverene in particular blew up, then all through the 90s, and up until now, the FF have never really gotten over. They've been in the middle of some important stories, particularly Reed Richards. It's like anything else, if someone does something interesting with them, it could be good.
@nunyabizness6595
@nunyabizness6595 8 ай бұрын
",Jonny!!!"...gotta admit. That made me laugh.😂😂😂❤
@GloopTrekker
@GloopTrekker Жыл бұрын
Here's my live-action FF pitch: Release it as a limited series, and set it in the Cold War era '60s (when the original comics debuted). Season 1 is a rotating collection of their early villains (Mole Man, Namor, etc.). The season builds to a Doctor Doom story for the finale. Season 2 continues with Doom and others, and leads up to Silver Surfer/Galactus.
@GloopTrekker
@GloopTrekker Жыл бұрын
I also wish Alan Rickman were still alive, as his voice would be perfect for Doom.
@chasehedges6775
@chasehedges6775 Жыл бұрын
Great idea!
@Omar-wq9dz
@Omar-wq9dz Жыл бұрын
I used to have this on DVD and watched it all the time
@bobbymak6964
@bobbymak6964 Жыл бұрын
I don't think it's the worst Marvel movie. I would probably vote for Howard the duck, Ghost Rider 2, or Punisher with Dolth Lundren.
@ianbrewster8934
@ianbrewster8934 Жыл бұрын
John Krasinski's appearance in Doctor Strange was divisive?? I thought most people thought that was one of the highlights of the film...
@michaelblaine6494
@michaelblaine6494 8 ай бұрын
Cyclops and Mystique were played by those actors in the first 2 X movies,this movie wasn’t announcing it with that Easter egg
@AllsWellInHell
@AllsWellInHell 5 ай бұрын
Honestly unabashedly love this movie. Revisiting it as an adult after seeing how marvel has turned out now - it’s campy, it’s fun - it’s short and sweet. Brainless sure but especially for comparison to films like Punisher (2000’s) or multiverse of madness , this things great as is. Not perfect, but an easy watch for sure
@gakabler
@gakabler Жыл бұрын
Side note - I don't like the look of Reed Richards with the beard and mustache. When the MCU puts out their FF film I hope that they'll keep Reed clean shaven. Just my opinion, of course.
@Teatime7771
@Teatime7771 7 ай бұрын
This movie maybe the best version of this team we will get. The MCU version will have Sue Storm in the lead.
@venom74799
@venom74799 Жыл бұрын
I hated this movie with a passion back then but after that shitfest in 2015, it’s still bad but I don’t hate it nearly as much and can appreciate the cheese to it.
@nospoilers100
@nospoilers100 Жыл бұрын
Compared to the reboot I think this fantastic four is Good They nailed the family aspect
@DavidMartinez-ce3lp
@DavidMartinez-ce3lp Жыл бұрын
I think the movie could've been better if they didn't force Dr. Doom into the movie, and have them fight some monster or alien that's loose in New York. Then instead have Doom already established and ruler of Latveria in some sort of post credit scene. Explore his background and relationship with Reed Richards in a sequel.
@rymonddog2317
@rymonddog2317 Жыл бұрын
This was great, it's way better than what they did 10 years later!
@philoebeddo8724
@philoebeddo8724 Жыл бұрын
Let’s see what the MCU do with FF before we all start taking the piss out of this one.
@marlonclark1896
@marlonclark1896 Жыл бұрын
yeah
@Isaacisaperson4677
@Isaacisaperson4677 8 ай бұрын
Something being bad doesn't make something else good Fant4stick sucks doesn't make this movie good
@Mr-atom55
@Mr-atom55 Жыл бұрын
I hope Ben Grimm looks as real as this in the MCU.
@comicgirl267
@comicgirl267 8 ай бұрын
I always loved this movie and always thought it got too much hate. I think it’s the live-action adaptation that’s closest to the source material. I don’t even have high hopes for MCU Fantastic Four. Pretty much everything done with the Fantastic Four alone (not with team-ups like with the Avengers or Civil War in the comics) has been negatively received in all of the mediums (movies, shows, games, and probably comics). I don’t think the MCU can “save” it either, especially considering that not everything in the MCU has been wonderful, even before Endgame. I’m just waiting for the new adaptation to come out and fail, so I can roll on the floor laughing and screaming at everyone “I told you so.”
@jolfer1334
@jolfer1334 Жыл бұрын
Fan4stic is not only the worst marvel movie but is at the top of the list of one of the worst movies ever made. This movie is Godfather 2 amazing compared to fan4stic
@lewislovelord8977
@lewislovelord8977 Жыл бұрын
I'm stunned by how many people liked it. Stunned. Some real dummies out here.
@warren7838
@warren7838 Жыл бұрын
Hardly the worst. Both the Corman FF movie which you referenced and the 2015 FF were worse. This movie was fun and appropriate for its time.
@willdotchill7607
@willdotchill7607 Жыл бұрын
Well, just having Jessica Alba in the film made every man on Earth want to watch it when she was one of the most talked about "hot chicks" at the time lol. The first film may not fit the current MCU but neither did the first couple Hulks unless we do the MultiVerse scenario. Still, before the others came out, I was just happy that I had an action packed film that was fun. So it is appreciated and I wouldn't say that the 1st F4 was worse than the second. Michael Chiklis feels most like Ben Grimm, The Thing.
@christophersouthorn6963
@christophersouthorn6963 Жыл бұрын
"The Worst Marvel Movie?" Why are we pretending like "Fant4stic" doesn't exist?
@RayMcElroy50
@RayMcElroy50 Жыл бұрын
A movie with no STORY was directed by a guy named TIM STORY
@CalciumChief
@CalciumChief Жыл бұрын
0:25 It's not that they didn't figure out what to do with them, it's that they literally couldn't, thanks to the movie rights being at Fox. If they had never sold those rights back in late 90's or so, the FF would've probably been there since phase one and they'd take up Guardians' spot as the link to all the space characters.
@futuramayeah
@futuramayeah Жыл бұрын
i didn't realize it until this video, at 8 min and 33 sec is a nod to Ghost Rider's car
@AprilMoon7
@AprilMoon7 Жыл бұрын
Saw these when I was 14 and love them to this today.
@kanghahnlee1385
@kanghahnlee1385 Жыл бұрын
I honestly liked this movie. Never understood why so many people had mean things to say about it. Then again, I loved X3: Last Stand as well. Maybe the problem's with me. 🙂
@kyliethelittlespider-mangirl94
@kyliethelittlespider-mangirl94 Жыл бұрын
(Reads Title) Uh no this isn’t the worst marvel movie (Fant4stic takes that place) I feel like this movie and it’s sequel get too much hate, it’s definitely not the worst Marvel movie, sure it doesn’t have a lot of fight scenes but at least the main four had chemistry (and good chemistry). I’m one of the few people that thinks this movie is underrated and I’m not afraid to say it, this movie and Rise of the Silver Surfer are two of my favorite movies.
@Deriv44
@Deriv44 Жыл бұрын
That movie virtually had little action that would explain how they would be considered Superhero the first moment of action is created by the fantastic 4 not even a bank robbery to stop of a building on fire to save people
@gakabler
@gakabler Жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed this movie. When it first came out it was the first time that I had ever seen Kerry Washington so since then it's always been hard for me to realize that she's not actually blind! Rise of the Silver Surfer was definitely sub par to this. Don't get me started on the horrible way they tried to show Galactus. And I have seen several sections of that "never released" FF movie. It really IS as bad as you think it would be.
@jaja_jupiter740
@jaja_jupiter740 Жыл бұрын
I believe the story lacked a significant impact. It required Dr. Doom to possess a greater sense of danger with a more intricate and grander plan. It should have devoted more time to developing a compelling villain. Personally, I found this iteration of Dr. Doom to be uninteresting, as well as the overall storyline. While it had its enjoyable moments, it needed to delve into darker territories and include a few more minutes of intense combat, instances of character development, and meaningful consequences. By striking a better balance between humor and realism, the movie would have felt more authentic.
@qwertyuiopgarth
@qwertyuiopgarth Жыл бұрын
Marvel does a Fantastic Four film, it does very well. They do a second film. Then, for the third film the main Marvelverse FF are exploring the Multiverse and encounter the Fantastic Four's from the Roger Corman film and the other two films (including Chris Evans as an older Human Torch).
@biguy617
@biguy617 Жыл бұрын
Wouldn’t be really bad if the MCU Fantastic Four ends up being worse than this movie. That would be a real tragedy.
@Leppymusic
@Leppymusic Жыл бұрын
Never been a fan of the comic books but I find this version and the cast the most spot on.
@hydrolito
@hydrolito Жыл бұрын
Human Torch and Toro was possibly their first Super Team. All winner Squad and Young Allies also earlier. Fantastic Four movie was a success.
@christianrivera2674
@christianrivera2674 Жыл бұрын
Let me just say that I saw this movie as a kid, and loved it. As an adult I haven't revisited this movie as I've adapted a One Movie One View policy growing up. But I enjoyed this video. Brings back memories.
@pwnranger3496
@pwnranger3496 Жыл бұрын
As of this date, the Incredibles remains the best feature length Fantastic Four film ever produced. All Disney has to do is bake some of that into the MCU and it should be a critical hit
@crithon
@crithon Жыл бұрын
NGL, I love Michael Chaklis and Chris Evan's characters the most on rewatching.
@jayrock4ya
@jayrock4ya Жыл бұрын
this is back when even sh!t movies were still pretty good😁
@albertogonzalez2203
@albertogonzalez2203 Жыл бұрын
I saw both in the Theaters. I loved them both. I also loved Daredevil (the directors cut) .
@jessechristensen6028
@jessechristensen6028 Жыл бұрын
The only thing divisive about Krasinski’s casting is that he was killed.
@eddiedutra3359
@eddiedutra3359 Жыл бұрын
Black Panther was pretty horrible. There was so much obvious green screen and poor cgi. I know earlier movies have that same issue but, that movie is only 4 years old. Terminator 2 was released in 1991 and that movie still holds up. I would put Blade: Trinity, Thor, Captain America, Iron Man 1 and 2, The Avengers all up there. These movies are throw away!
@williamholland4818
@williamholland4818 Жыл бұрын
These 2 films were not campy. Did it have a light hearted feel to it
@bonxaiskateco3002
@bonxaiskateco3002 Жыл бұрын
Your theory on the attributes and powers is a stretch. Now hear me out. They mention the solar storm has the basic building blocks of organic life or something to Doom, in the storm sequence they each seem to get bombarded by a different element of the storm. Sue like an cosmic air, Ben the space rock caught in the debris, Johnny the fire, Doom the electricity and metal from the space station and Reed the moisture in the storm. So like Earth, Water, Air, Fire and Electricity/Metal....... Always how ive interpreted it since I was a kid.
@taurinstraiter2325
@taurinstraiter2325 Жыл бұрын
Yes! Someone again on KZfaq covering my favorite Marvel movie and favorite movie of 2005! You were really creative with title, weren't you? Sarcasm. I don't bash you in particular, KZfaqrs always use lazy titles (knowing it's not actually true). But for the sake of the argument, IMO Elektra (2005) is more boring. And unlike the sequel FF: RoS (2007), Jessica Alba still plays a scientist in this movie.
@CaptainCat101
@CaptainCat101 Жыл бұрын
It's not as faithful to the comics as the unreleased 1994 movie, but it's not nearly as bad as Fant4stic. It's just painfully average.
@LukeLovesRose
@LukeLovesRose Жыл бұрын
I dont know about that. Chris Evans was almost too perfect as Johnny Storm
@CaptainCat101
@CaptainCat101 Жыл бұрын
@@LukeLovesRose so I'm guessing you'd be excited if he ever does return as the character in a crossover (he confirmed he'd do it)
@LukeLovesRose
@LukeLovesRose Жыл бұрын
@@CaptainCat101 Yeah.
@nigeldonaldson1647
@nigeldonaldson1647 Жыл бұрын
I would LOVE to see a Silver Surfer stand alone film, he deserves his own film, it could be a great metaphor for ignorance & prejudice & also a great...SUPERMAN style love story, if written and directed right. The Surfer is one of Marvel's most poignant, profound characters, up there with say...DAREDEVIL, or the x men freak characters. they never really got him right, either for his aesthetic look, or his personality in the sequel film, but theres plenty of scope to try again
@futuramayeah
@futuramayeah Жыл бұрын
i liked this more than Spiderman 2002, and i liked Hulk more than Spiderman , but i liked this one more than both of them, i felt for Ben when he couldn't pick up his wedding ring and i liked the music when they were fighting Doom at the end
@greenman5255
@greenman5255 Жыл бұрын
Being able to stare at Jessica Alba for a couple hours made this movie an enjoyable watch.
@marlonclark1896
@marlonclark1896 Жыл бұрын
oh yeah
@SumDumGy
@SumDumGy Жыл бұрын
Ironically, I think she looks her absolute worst in these films.
@greenman5255
@greenman5255 Жыл бұрын
@@SumDumGy That's quite the complement for her!
@SumDumGy
@SumDumGy Жыл бұрын
@@greenman5255 I don’t see how it’s a compliment. I think she look terrible in these films. She can’t pull off blonde to save her life.
@WalesTheTrueBritons
@WalesTheTrueBritons Жыл бұрын
Wow! Can’t believe an American was able to get Ioan Gruffudd’s name correct. Top marks to you!
@The_Infamous_Boogyman
@The_Infamous_Boogyman Жыл бұрын
It was decent enough for it's time and cinematic climate, but after the MCU, it would've had no chance. But how were those X-Men casts a year diff between this movie was on the heels of x2?
@fantasticdavidson1179
@fantasticdavidson1179 Жыл бұрын
Best quote that thing doesn’t look so fantastic and it came from an extra
@BrosephComrade
@BrosephComrade Жыл бұрын
R.I.P. (Rest Intellectual Property)
@nigeldonaldson1647
@nigeldonaldson1647 Жыл бұрын
the FANTASTIC 4 film felt..thin and basic when i saw it at the Cinema (especially when compared to the comic) BUT it had a good comedic energy vibe about it, in a similar way to something like- GHOSTBUSTERS, the comedy aspect worked best which I felt was the film's best strength. I heard rumours that there was going to be a more loyal to the comics version, made when Marvel got the rights back. set in the 60s, during the space race, & when they discover their powers all at once, having crash landed back on Earth (which is what they could have done, originally instead of setting it in today's cynical World, to do a 60s F F might have given it an originality, with less of a sense of it having to compete with other super hero films.
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