I remember thinking the same, in the 90’s with super Nintendo. I remember the games looking incredible. Same with first PlayStation. When I look back, I’m like, Jesus Christ 🤢 There’s 1 game from the 90’s that I still think looks great and has aged incredibly well and that’s street fighter 2.

I think we put up with it because we had no idea what FPS and stutters and bad performance were. We thought games just "existed", and that they were just played. At least for me.

@@grahamkelly8662 that is something else entirely, those games were designed to be displayed on a crt and take advantage of the blurring between 'pixels' to make better colors and pixel art. On these gen, consoles just ran games like shit, there was no reason to get a console at all compared to a pc. Obviously not the same nowadays due to the pricing changes between the consoles and pc.

Well they do tend to make a mountain out of a mole hill sometimes on this channel.

The big one for me was Fallout 4 on Xbox One. The performance was terrible, but I never thought twice as a 15 year old. Nowadays, that kinda stuttering and frame dropping would make me sick.

11 FPS on ps3, those were the days…

I remember my brother picking up the PS3 version second hand on a whim and being astonished at how bad it looked and ran.

@@TacticalGAMINGzz 😳

Last gen? Most last last gen

I remember playing Shadow of Mordor on the 360 and not being able to get through encounter cutscenes without the game having to load 2 or 3 times.

Right? I was so used to console gaming that i thought this was just a regular thing, but it wasn’t until i got a ps4 pro and eventually the ps5 i appreciate what more powerful hardware is capable of, i could never go back to this

I remember being unable to hit shots and unable to see things that were clearly there, and I thought my eyes were just going bad. You're more patient when you're younger, and willing to overlook complete stutters to keep playing.

Same, I had a 360, ps3 and a mediocre PC at that time. Was mainly gaming on PS3. I even played Bayonetta on that machine and played the shit out of it!! It's not until nowadays where I exclusively play on PC that I realise how bad the performance was that gen!

@@NOTMuzzaFuzza Same lol. Knowledge is a curse

It would drive crazy but only for the first hour (max two). After that time it's easy to get used to and it's not a problem anymore.

more info please

Agree, it´s enjoyable to revisit some good old time games with their great knowledge

Triple threat. And "The Game", "Triple-P"!

Agree!

Boring game

@@dagainz6997 shows you know fuck all about the game. It was the best far cry game of the series and clearly you would know that if you actually played it.

Hmm I noticed that the under water caustics are broken on pc vs the consoles.. I wonder why

Also the entire water shallow/deep depth rendering is broken on pc as well

I think X360 was always was the lead platform with multi-platform games on consoles.

@@mbsfaridi There were some exceptions like FF13 , Bioshock Infinite , Mirrors Edge and GTA V

Was the 360 easy to program for?

If they didn't target HD TVs with those console they could have made games that ran properly. Also this gen was too long

@@DTheVigne well... I mean not in 06, but by 2010-11.. especially 12 the vast majority of people I knew had an HDTV (including my household) and thats in the poorest region in the EU.

@@TKIvanov That's why I'm saying this gen was too long. There should have been a new gen in 2011-2012. The 360 and the Triple were limping

@@DTheVigne okay my bad, somehow I missed your 2nd sentence.

This is true, because I played on PS3 with a 480p TV and things looked and ran good. Just that the fonts were too small in some games.

Memory of Chad Warden? The Warden is eternal the Chad is timeless

Every single time Ledbetter says "that triple" I fucking LIVE

I'm convinced Chad warden is the reason why Sony is beating MS this gen. The phantom of *No Gaymes* haunts Sony.

I get a kick out of whenever they say "the triple". I still say it to this day.

That one time they started a video with Rich saying “sup bitches”

Probably because a lot of games on the PS3 suffered from the same issues, just not quite to this degree. So seeing sub 30 FPS regularly was pretty common and thus you become used to it and maybe don’t even realize how bad it actually is. (I had a PS3 for most of that era so I was one of those people until I built a PC around the time this game came out)

Same here, played on the 360. One of the best games I’ve ever played to this day. I didn’t noticed poor performance, stutters, tearing etc. I just enjoyed the game. I wish I could go back to these days. Now if a game drops below 60 for a second I get mad

@@dim9907 I feel the same way, honestly. I have always been pretty sensitive to stuff like this, and I have always noticed it but just didn't know how to articulate it because i was pretty ignorant until I discovered DF. Now that I am not only able to explain what I am looking at to myself and others, it only makes it that much more annoying when I see flaws in image quality and frames that shouldn't be there! Sometimes Ignorance really is bliss lol

@@Snake_2066 Crysis 3 on PS3 was literally a powerpoint , its hard to play due to its performance

​@dim9907 I'm the same way but it's if a game drops below 90

Pc gaming is still quite a bit ahead of consoles but man back in this Era it was crazy. These consoles were out for so long and pc hardware advanced so fast the pc version of games was like a whole other generation ahead. Same went for ps4 and xbone due to being so weak when they released. Now....like I said pc is still a bit ahead but ps5 is still holding its own due to games being cross gen so much but those current gen only games like AW2 the pc still shines big time

lol.

Lmao.

lel.

Yeah I got the game when I was 13 or so and never noticed the performance but I DID notice the bad ambient occlusion as well. We were so innocent.

@@BlueisNotaWarmColour I mean I always knew, but then again I also played through the early 3d generation where alot of game were way worse performance wise. So that didn't bother me at all. That bad ambient occlusion though I'd rather they had cut that. It didn't make the game look better imo, just was a distraction.

Honestly if they had disabled that god awful SSAO effect they may have gotten closer to the 30FPS target on consoles. But then again if there was a CPU limitation it would have done nothing.

@@Yodagamer1 my first system was the ps1 so I tended to focus on better textures and polygon counts- totally missing the screen tearing, frame drops, etc.

I agree. I played on xbox 360 and you could tell it wasn't as smooth as butter like a top end PC would be. But I had an amazing experience and really didn't care about that. I think the fun and enjoyment is the most important thing and like 97% of what the experience matters for me.

Well, as Digital Foundry pointed out in the past, 30fps is a compromise but there ways of doing it right - namely frame pacing. 30fps with solid frame pacing is going to be smoother than 30fps with broken frame pacing.

i thought we played the same game at once time but nah, the one i played was called conflict viatnam, i use to listen to motion city soundtracks song why you cant you finish what you started while playing the game in bootcamp. those were the days when you could install music from a CD to your console.

@@ThePreciseClimber Yeah or in Far Cry 3's case, something worse than broken frame pacing, where it's targeting 30 but it's often more like 23fps with constant tearing

It's pretty unfair to compare anything to Frostbite. That engine was a technical marvel back in its day before EA decided to Frankenstein it.

7950 can even run RDR2 at 1080p 30 fps

3770k and gtx 680, my first rig also i was coming from consoles XDDDDDDD😂😂😂

same here, upgraded to 4770k and GTX 770 and enjoyed the hell out of this game. The whole atmosphere is just amazing, you get this warm summer feel instantly when you play it.

@UnrealStutterEngine PCs are quite cheap right now. Mid range GPUs have gone up in price comparatively, but everything else is very cheap. There are Ryzen 5600 CPUs at Microcenter for $130 and DDR4 is really cheap.

That one will always be special.

And now the bar has been raised with modern hardware. This game takes some tinkeringon modern hardware(assign only four cores in task manager and it runs smooth). I went from. 60-80 fps on my 4080 super and 13600k to 200-300 fps in 4k. Older games can run so good

it did run pretty well, it was a miracle.

Yeah it was very well optimized

I ran that game maxed out at 60fps with my GTX 750 Ti, 8GB DDR3 and i3 2100 setup. It was a fantastic PC port and the last gen versions ran pretty decently too.

The way it ran on last gen was amazing, and the way such a high fidelity open world game ran at 60 fps on PS4 and Xbox One was amazing. Such a waste of an amazing engine that it was basically only used for Metal Gear 5, Metal Gear Survive, and PES.

@@aninfinitemindofmusicandreams Yeah, it's one of the best ports ever made for PC. I played it on 2500k+8GB and obsolete GTX5601GB at the moment and it managed to run at stable 50-60fps in 1080p high settings.

X2

HE generally played better as well

prob what happen to every ps3 owner : P

@@krono5el all fun and games until you get 50 hours into Skyrim on PS3

@@JamesSturges or 100 into new vegas and the memory leaks cause your ps3 to completely lock up and require a hard reset by unplugging it (this would happen every 30 minutes of gameplay lol)

Performace on the 7th gen aged pretty bad

I pre ordered Callisto over Dead Space Remake (I'm not rich, I have to choose on of them) cuz listening hype of "reviewers". This was the last time.

Did we wacth the same video?

@@bingobongo1615 not on about the video it's the game as a whole

Same here. Was too busy with the immersion.

How tf do you think 2012 was the last good year, were you not alive in 2017 or 2018?

@@spiral7041 No i died in 2016 and was reincarnated in 2019. What came out in 2017 and 2018? Chances are I didn't like any of it. Gaming is dying. It's all samey samey grind fests and remakes. The days of originality died a long time ago.

@@bitsbobs8158 Here's a short list: Super Mario Odyssey Breath of the Wild Persona 5 Nier Automota Wolfenstein 2 Forza Motorsport 7 Horizon Zero Dawn Sonic Mania Cup head Nioh Resident Evil 7 Hollow Knight Yakuza 0 Assassins Creed Origins Uncharted Lost Legacy And that's just 2017, 2018 was just as good especially on Sony's side. Maybe you should stop being so nostalgia blind and perhaps play more games lol

@@spiral7041 Out of those i was semi interested in Resident Evil 7 and Assissins Creed Origins. Both were ok nothing special. AC Origins changed the AC formula to a long drawn out grind or pay to skip the grind. I much prefer the old style AC formula. Resident Evil 7 just copied and ripped off a bunch of horror movies that I'd already seen a million and one times so I knew exactly what was coming. The rest I couldn't give a 💩 about. It's all more and more of the same. I also got Forza Horizon 4 in 2018. But after Forza Horizon 1, 2 and 3 I found it was just more of the same again and I'm Forzerd out now. 🤷 It's not nostalgia btw. I've been gaming since the 80s. When you have been gaming as long as I have it's more of the same and there isn't much originality in gaming anymore. It's all pretty much cookie cutter these days and not much excites me. The PlayStation 1 and 2 era were by far the best.

@@bitsbobs8158 All those games received high critical and fan praise, as well as sales. You're in the minority here and considering how biased you clearly are, I doubt I can even take your opinions seriously. PS2 gen was the best imo, but current gen and last gen were great also.

Ignorance is bliss. I was the same

They want to make everything bigger and bigger, but just like she told me the other day size doesn't matter, its the motion of the ocean or the fun factor thats more important

What about Super Mario Galaxy 2, The Conduit 2, The Last Story, Xenoblade Chronicles or Fragile Dreams?

The new remastered version is definitely better than these older ports, it holds up really well

@@mightymushroom4980 remastered version is for sure better. But if you have an Xbox Series X it’ll run the 360 version at 60fps.

@@Sosanatorz33 or a series s

Google the military term "hump it" I meant hump ;)

@@DigitalFoundry I learn something new every day! :P