Fastest Way to Get a Shower Floor FLAT and LEVEL for a FOAM PAN -- No Self Leveler Required

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7 ай бұрын

When using foam pans such as a Schluter Kerdi tray or a TileRedi (Ready Your Way) pan, the sub-floor needs to be flat and level before the foam pan is installed. If the floor is more than 3/16" out of level or flatness, additional sub-floor preparation will be needed. There are a few ways of doing this preparation, one of which is using Self Leveling Underlayment (SLU) such as Custom Building Products Level Quick RS. There is a video link on how to do that below. The advantage to using Self Leveling Underlayment is that is is relatively easy to do, and doesn't require as much skill as a mortar bed. The downsides to it are that it's expensive, it requires foam dams along the perimeter so the leveler doesn't pour out of the area, and it takes 4 hours before you can walk on it or install the foam pan on it.
The rapid setting mortar method is half of the cost of Self Leveling Underlayment, does not require foam dams, and can be walked on in about 15-20 minutes so the foam pan can be installed much quicker.
To see the video doing the next step in the process, installing the TileRedi pan here is the link: • I help 70 yr. old lady...
Self Leveling Video: • DO THIS BEFORE Install...
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@roczilla6834 7 ай бұрын

Coach, you are of service in the kindest way for a much needed woman. You are a blessing and keep up the great work. 👏👏👏👏

@jonlittle2516 7 ай бұрын

Great advice, another method to solve problems in the future. Cheers to Zach, nothing like a good helper.

@timothywhieldon1971 7 ай бұрын

fantastic way to get a pan in, if i did this in the AM, i could have the pan set by lunch! using rapid set for everything i could have the walls up and seamed in 1 day! that is a VERY fast job for anyone! cheers!

@johnburns2940 7 ай бұрын

Yay Zack! You da man. Behind every good tiler, is an excellent support! 👊 Respect

@dougsherman1562 7 ай бұрын

Thank you Isaac, very much appreciated. Always learn from your videos.

@johnburns2940 7 ай бұрын

Yay! Grass Valley's finest 🤟💜😂

@litoloco4fish 7 ай бұрын

You make it look easy Issac..

@ryangunderson5064 7 ай бұрын

Super interesting method. Coming from a mud back round this makes sense to me for a quick-level small floor. One thing I noticed, wouldn't it be a good idea to spread some of the slurry on the slopes of your original screeds? I feel like it would tie the whole floor together. Or is that not necessary for this type of mortar? I've never used it before.

@Jared-Kreate 7 ай бұрын

Kinda sound like the Bob Ross of floor leveling in this video 😜

@halbrookins3232 7 ай бұрын

God, you are good!

@skyace888 7 ай бұрын

Thanks for the video. Different method here that seems to do the job. I wonder though if maybe the finished product is not quite as dense and could have more air pockets within the finished consistency compared to SLU.

@thelostmariner8973 6 ай бұрын

I love your videos and advice. I’m planning on renovating our shower using a foam pan. Measurements show the existing shower tile Is lower than the bathroom tile. Is this normal? Have not demo’s yet. Plan on using the Flow-fix drain.

@jeremiahfrick9343 4 ай бұрын

Thanks!

@TileCoach 3 ай бұрын

You bet!

@benjaminmoore1740 7 ай бұрын

Looks great are you going to use the RSS foam for the floor?

@weekendwarrior3420 7 ай бұрын

I expect a $150 level to have some tuning screws to make it level. This just shows that everyone should be regularly checking their tools.

@genefoster8936 5 ай бұрын

Love your videos. Could you say in the comments which specific products you use, (fast setting mortar, slurry)?

@TileCoach 5 ай бұрын

Rapid Set Mortar Mix. Laticretre 254 Platinum for the slurry

@Nebulation 7 ай бұрын

Isaac, I came across a tiler that sets his screeds like this and lets them cure around the perimeter with standard dry pack as a method to build a bed. Do you condone?

@petercisco3423 6 ай бұрын

Question, can you use The Original Granite Bracket Store Floating Shower Bench Kit for a bathtube back splash in the planning to redo my bathroom...thanks Al

@jvspek 6 ай бұрын

I'm curious, why don't people put the Kerdi floor first and then work up the walls. And then have the corner flaps go behind the wall membrane. Kind of like how we do roofing or siding. Seems like it would be a more waterproof method. But I don't know anything about Kerdi or doing tiles. Any how love the videos!

@Mogtepyigsoloth 7 ай бұрын

My contractor installed green board in my shower stall. Could you give me your opinion about that?

@kirkdunn1379 7 ай бұрын

Rarely is anything level or square in a house It was when they did it most likely but houses settle and twist over time.... This is why You checking your level alot bro (OCD) have some confidence, you got it right.....once it goes off its too late anyways..... I can see the syndrome in alot of your vids......check it 2 or 3 times and its good, no one messed it up when you werent looking I promise 😂

@christopherpenn1326 6 ай бұрын

what are your favorite knee pads?

@TheMakyato 7 ай бұрын

you do not use a wood trowel to float in the us?

@joefowler3106 7 ай бұрын

That rapid set mortar puts off a lot of heat when curing, like seriously hot to the touch, does that heat affect the foam pan?

@kirkdunn1379 7 ай бұрын

All rapid set products do for most part.....

@fatcat-hc4pj 7 ай бұрын

👍👍

@XCBen 7 ай бұрын

How is this faster than pouring Self-leveling cement?

@Nebulation 7 ай бұрын

It’s the curing time the video concerns itself with. He needed a leveled floor asap.

@XCBen 7 ай бұрын

@@Nebulation well you can set a foam pan 4 hours after setting self leveler, but I guess a mud bed would allow a thinset bond at an earlier time. Maybe 90 minutes. Its just so much easier to pour the cement.

@kristineolver3268 7 ай бұрын

This is dry in less than an hour and you can set your pan, whereas with self leveler you have to wait at least 4 hours, usually a bit longer, before you can set the pan on it. The labor time is about the same but the wait time is 75%less

@delboy6384 7 ай бұрын

Mapei do a fast setting self levelling compound that is ready to 30 minutes, but in reality it's more like 20 minutes