THE BEST Elegoo Saturn 4 Ultra Review on The Internet

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0:00 - Introduction: First Impressions of the New Printer
0:58 - Key Questions Answered: Tilt Mechanism and Purchase Worthiness
1:10 - Design Features: Technical Stripes and Lid Mechanics
2:00 - Practical Considerations: Space Requirements for Use
2:36 - Technical Specs: 12K Display and Print Quality Misconceptions
3:26 - Screen size and Print Volume
4:00 - Unique Features: Tilt Vat and Resin Vat Design
4:39 - Transition to PFA: Advancements in Print Detail
5:01 - Build Plate and Z-Arm Connection: Design Enhancements and Concerns
6:37 - Mechanic Changes: Lead Screw vs. Ball Screw
7:01 - Ventilation and Filtering: Changes in Design
7:29 - User Interface: Orientation and Usability
8:01 - Localization Errors and UI Details
9:00 - Resin Calibration Feature: How to Use It
10:02 - Print Quality Summation: Comparison to Saturn 3 Series
11:00 - Model Showcase: Variety and Detail of Printed Models
12:44 - Slicing Software: Transition to Chitu Box
13:56 - Remote Printing and Storage: New Features and Limitations
14:03 - Tilt Mechanism Benefits: Reducing Print Failures
16:01 - AI Camera and Failure Detection: Limitations and Potential
17:55 - Installation of Additional Lighting: User Modifications
18:17 - Conclusion: Should You Buy This Printer?

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@FauxHammer
@FauxHammer 3 ай бұрын
*GET THE SATURN 4 or 4 Ultra Here * - shrsl.com/4icdx *Check out WORLD'S BEYOND* - geni.us/WorldsBeyond Looking for *Great Models to Print?* check out the following Creators Loot Studios - geni.us/LootStudios MyMiniFactory - geni.us/MyMiniFactory OnePageRules - geni.us/OnePageRules TitanForge - geni.us/TitanForge Get any printer working easily with the Photonsters XP Range Finder - www.thingiverse.com/thing:6023738 (watch my video for full instructions kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fdNgYN1qnJfYl40.html) Join this channel to get access to perks: kzfaq.info/love/_9Jsf3SP8aMJgn0xv5jHjAjoin Buy WARGAMER - The best Resin for Miniatures yesthats3dprinted.com/pages/wargamer?ref=FauxHammer 3D Printer Cleaning Mat: geni.us/3DPrinterCleaningMat This Video is part of our series looking for the Best 3D printer for Miniatures; www.fauxhammer.com/top-10/the-best-3d-printer-for-miniatures-models/ Special thanks to the following Creators who provided models The Damned Wargames Atlantic/@MiniWarGaming - gamefound.com/projects/mwg--wargames-atlantic/the-damned#/section/the-damned-infantry-23207 (not publically available as STL Files) Wolverine - Drafnir Studios - cgtrader.sjv.io/3eJyqv Artis Opus FauxHammer Essentials Set: store.artis-opus.com/products/fauxhammer-mixed-brush-set-5-brush-deluxe FauxHammer Facebook Group - facebook.com/groups/PaintHub FauxHammer 3D Printing Group - facebook.com/groups/3dprintedminiatures FauxHammer Discord - discord.gg/dPexM9SeN4 Best Airbrush For Miniatures: www.fauxhammer.com/top-10/best-airbrushes-for-miniatures-wargames-models/ Beginner Airbrush: www.fauxhammer.com/featured/best-beginner-airbrush-for-miniatures/ Affiliate Links to support us. Element Games - elementgames.co.uk/wargames-and-miniatures-by-manufacturer/games-workshop/warhammer-40k/warhammer-40000-indomitus-english-?d=10279 Wayland Games - affiliates.waylandgames.co.uk/781-1-3-4.html Forbidden Planet: forbiddenplanet.com/catalog/?q=Warhammer%20Imperium&sort=title&page=1&affid=FauxHammer& Amazon - www.amazon.co.uk/s?k=Warhammer&ref=nb_sb_noss_2 Website: www.fauxhammer.com/ Facebook: facebook.com/pg/FauxHammerBlog/ Twitter: twitter.com/FauxHammerBlog Instagram: instagram.com/fauxhammerblog/ Pinterest: www.pinterest.co.uk/fauxhammer/ Video Editing by VidPros: app.vidpros.io/r/J50Z26 00:00 - Intro
@FarmerJim
@FarmerJim 3 ай бұрын
So this one of GKTwo?
@user-hi1mj4mc3w
@user-hi1mj4mc3w 3 ай бұрын
Affiliate link doesn't work for me 😢, clicked others and are fine 😞
@AntiVaganza
@AntiVaganza 3 ай бұрын
Wait, what?! Does an expert like you still go with crazy bottom layer times like 27-35secs or was it just a default setting? If I have one pet peeve when it comes to resin printing it's people using way longer exposure times than they need. I speculate you fry your screen faster this way, too. Not because the extra mins are anything in the greater scheme of a multiple hour print but because you may be putting a whole lot more heat into the screen. I have yet to have a "bed adhesion" failure on my old, trusty Anycubic 4K Mono and my bottom expos are ~x5 the regular exposure time. Meaning I am often at just 10-12 secs and only four layers. And nope, I didn't come up with this, smarter people did, but it simply works. Besides that, great review. I am hoping the tilting mech can also help resins with heavy die or ceramic particles, etc in them to not settle out so fast. On long prints, this is sometimes an issue. So, maybe the swirling will keep the particles suspended better but at least the faster print time will help.
@Topless_Stang
@Topless_Stang 3 ай бұрын
Where did you get that light from?? Wanting to add one to mine and that looks like a decent setup, although I'd rather it was a smart light.
@FauxHammer
@FauxHammer 3 ай бұрын
@@Topless_Stang it's not the best choice IMO, I use them for Lighting effects on videos amzn.to/3UsPXF7 Just get an LED light with a power witch to turn it off. that;s what i used now, but instead of a power switch, I just plug it into the printers USB port that I don't use....
@elizabethkoopman4984
@elizabethkoopman4984 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for your detailed review. Your videos have helped inform my decision making with 3D printing more than anyone's and I've went ahead and pre-ordered my Saturn 4 Ultra.
@leobro6398
@leobro6398 3 ай бұрын
I really liked this review. You said your overall opinion first, then went into details and the small things they could improve.
@TableFlipFoundry
@TableFlipFoundry 3 ай бұрын
So glad you made this video. I ordered my own and am waiting on it now...
@ResinForge
@ResinForge 3 ай бұрын
Been waiting for this video! Thank you for going into such great detail on all of the features. I am super excited for this machine. I think it’s a perfect option for a mid range printer for people jumping into the hobby, it has so many quality features for its price! Great video as always Ross! Love seeing the comments on Uncle Jessy’s video about him saying “Fox” Hammer 😂 Made my morning
@theromeog
@theromeog 3 ай бұрын
Convinced me. Just ordered. Thanks for the amazing videos.
@SgtHouse
@SgtHouse 3 ай бұрын
Looks like I have new toy in the near future! 😮 As always thank ypu for the awesome review and the 5th element reference at the end!
@vizionct1
@vizionct1 3 ай бұрын
Ordered my sat4 ultra day one. As a generation 1 Saturn owner, I’m sure I’ll be impressed by this one and relieved your review was mostly positive😅! Thanks and looking forward for more to come!
@DHyre
@DHyre 8 күн бұрын
Saturn v1.0 owner here! 4 Ultra ordered July 4, out for delivery July 26 (in US). Can’t wait to see the improvements in person. v1 has been good to me, like my WhamBam plate… tempted for this despite Elegoo comments.
@bogdanuntila1972
@bogdanuntila1972 2 ай бұрын
Just ordered. Thanks for the review. It's my first printer and I'd very much like an in depth guide please!
@zbug84
@zbug84 2 ай бұрын
Getting this for my birthday present to myself in August. When I started printing a couple of years ago your videos helped me come to a decision on which machine to go. If the link still works in August, ill be using it!
@richarddean8042
@richarddean8042 2 ай бұрын
Just ordered one - thanks for a decent review
@nikroth
@nikroth 3 ай бұрын
I was expecting this ! Great day !!
@GeekDetour
@GeekDetour 3 ай бұрын
Wow, Ross, this is the most complete review about the Saturn 4 Ultra. I loved watching it. Congrats man! AND you opened it!!!! I almost did it, but I was already so late to finish the video. I am glad you took even more time and actually opened it. I am also happy you talked about the grip when holding the Build Plate - I sent a message about it to Elegoo. Let’s see if they’ll have time to do something about it… otherwise, I will create yet another MOD for the printer. Oh, I didn’t test, but maybe it is possible to manually adjust the actual pressure of each corner, tightening the springy screws.
@FauxHammer
@FauxHammer 3 ай бұрын
Thanks so much brother, I watched your video earlier today, I think I put a comment. Really nice review end nice handle. Did you by chance release those STL files for others to use. That would be awesome. But thanks for another great video from you too. This one is impressing so many people and it deserves its praise no end
@MegaJ0sh
@MegaJ0sh 3 ай бұрын
As much as it would be nice for them to have had a knurled Surface to hold the build plate surely just get some grip tape for a skateboard or some sticky back 120 grit paper and put that on?
@DavidHurst78
@DavidHurst78 3 ай бұрын
Also pressed buy it now using your link. Thanks Ross
@TechBrewGamer
@TechBrewGamer 3 ай бұрын
Saturn 4 Ultra Pro will add a heater or a carbon filter, but will not be released for another 6 months when everyone already bought this one.
@DrewLSsix
@DrewLSsix 3 ай бұрын
Just buy the accessory heater?
@patrickhentschke6542
@patrickhentschke6542 3 ай бұрын
How do you connect the accessory heater? There is no usb inside the printer and as far as I know there is no hole you can get a cable through.
@MassisPipes
@MassisPipes 3 ай бұрын
​@@patrickhentschke6542there's a 30mm fan hole on the back you could use?
@denisbreeze3648
@denisbreeze3648 3 ай бұрын
​@@patrickhentschke6542 Идиот, что тебе мешает просверлить отверстие в крыш?
@TechBrewGamer
@TechBrewGamer 3 ай бұрын
@@patrickhentschke6542 I was being sarcastic. It would be a rerelease of the whole system but with those added features. Like the Saturn 4 Ultra has the tilt but the Saturn 4 do not have the vat tilt. If you follow the releases of 3D printing machines you might get my sarcastic joke.
@JAFC315
@JAFC315 3 ай бұрын
Awesome video as always Ross!!! Great Quality!! Honestly, I'm not able to decide if I should get this or the GK2, which one would you recommend me?
@Iz_Wut_It_Iz
@Iz_Wut_It_Iz Ай бұрын
You got my sub, great video! I’m considering buying this as my first resin printer
@FauxHammer
@FauxHammer Ай бұрын
Thanks for the sub! it's an incredible printer
@22pieter
@22pieter 3 ай бұрын
thanks Ross I'm just starting with 3d printing the ultra 4 will be my first printer. I checked a lot of videos but yours are great and easy to understand. greetings Pieter
@wastonleil2629
@wastonleil2629 Ай бұрын
so cool to see newcomers! i'm sure you'll like it, just be patient and please pay attention to security warnings. Resin is a danger for health, so please use gloves, mask, and use it in a non-living room
@josephstrouse6369
@josephstrouse6369 3 ай бұрын
As I am just getting into the resin printer side of the 3D printing hobby I was just about to get the GKtwo over the Saturn 3 Ultra, however, this new model with its seeming ease of entry use makes me feel like I should go with the Saturn 4 Ultra. I wish it had that heater built in, but with the cost savings being close to 50% I can use the other monies to get a wash and cure station at the same time instead of DIYing those solutions. Thanks for the review, by the way, your lid open dimensions were exactly what I was hoping to hear as the machine will be going into a closed structure with outdoor venting. Cheers!
@enigmaticreverieproduction5169
@enigmaticreverieproduction5169 Ай бұрын
Preferred it using your link! Thank you!
@Hero1117a
@Hero1117a 3 ай бұрын
Luv my saturn 3, holding off on based on your review
@JerryBWagoner
@JerryBWagoner 3 ай бұрын
I may have to look at this as my upcoming upgrade.
@maxpower8080
@maxpower8080 3 ай бұрын
I like that you are honest here, this is the best saturn 4 review in the internet (until your next review). Enough nice word, some points I am interested, if there will be a more in depth video. 1. Does the tilt mechanism make a huge difference, a super thin supports possible. 2. Can you talk more about the "auto level", can I ajust the screws or change the higt of the plattform? 3. Do you think, than its possible to use a flexplate (I know, you dont like them, you cann and will probably skip this question) Thank you
@3dpathfinder
@3dpathfinder 3 ай бұрын
I will be using your link when i order mine.
@FattyZee
@FattyZee Ай бұрын
Very excited, have to wait until August in Australia but its locked in
@aberodriguez4149
@aberodriguez4149 3 ай бұрын
Great review Ross for the money and the features you mentioned this sure is worth having a second look. Curious to see if those mini heaters are efficient or worthless and it would of been nice if the lift up cover would of had the hinges in a more functioning position as to allow the cover to be raised up and not pass beyond the back of the printer especially for those with limited space. I don't know if someone has shown the true leveling of the bed to the vat but that would be interesting to see also. I will be on the look out for your next review on this printer, thanks for your work and time.
@alwayswatching6318
@alwayswatching6318 3 ай бұрын
Yeah this flip lid looks like a massive downgrade from the old lift off lid. I can easily put a lift off lid on the floor, but I can't add an extra 25cm to the depth of my work surface and print tent. I suspect I will just undo the hinge and turn it into a lift off lid :)
@aberodriguez4149
@aberodriguez4149 3 ай бұрын
@@alwayswatching6318 Lol that is a great idea since I am limited in space and funds. There's a KZfaqR that has his setup in a closet and he designed some kind of hook to hang his cover on the inside of the closet door btw his printer is not this model but a little bit of brain juice and anything is possible. XD
@ForgersWill
@ForgersWill 3 ай бұрын
Solid reference at the end there.
@FauxHammer
@FauxHammer 3 ай бұрын
been wanting to get Fifth Element in for a while
@patrickassmus3132
@patrickassmus3132 3 ай бұрын
I got a few screenshots of the printer for the, uh, archives.
@MrTeal888
@MrTeal888 3 ай бұрын
Pulled the trigger during your live launch. Now counting the days until it arrives.
@Choom42
@Choom42 3 ай бұрын
I pulled the trigger during your live at launch! Going to be my first resin printer yay! Nice review once again!
@tb841
@tb841 3 ай бұрын
Same mate, but my second printer. I've got a mars 3 and love it but I want to print larger projects and the larger build plate has been something I've been looking at for a while. Nearly bought a Saturn 3 last launch but was poor at the time 😂
@Gulaschiltis
@Gulaschiltis 3 ай бұрын
same here... I was literally starting reasearch on what to buy... and the next day this was released - instant buy^^
@benmuir6570
@benmuir6570 3 ай бұрын
LOL, it seems I was not the only one convinced to by one of these.
@Choom42
@Choom42 3 ай бұрын
Hahaha nope, I think we all raid the website. I think Ross is going to have a nice check soon 😂
@HangryZens
@HangryZens Ай бұрын
Wish I didn’t get the mars 4
@Vormulac1
@Vormulac1 3 ай бұрын
Great review! :) I pre-ordered an S4U recently so it's nice to see a positive look at it. I see Anycubic have just announced the Mono 7 with a heated vat, a resin pump, a 14k screen (for whatever that's worth) and they've increased the Z height so the build volume is on a par or maybe slightly better than this. Of course they don't have the tilting vat and in the UK it'll be significantly more expensive than the S4U.
@mendicantbias5211
@mendicantbias5211 2 ай бұрын
anycubic has the worst customer service in the industry
@Pnode88
@Pnode88 3 ай бұрын
Great Video!
@aaronreynolds8587
@aaronreynolds8587 3 ай бұрын
Great review, thank you! So...between the GKTwo and the Saturn 4 ultra...all other things being equal and cost not being a factor, which would you choose? Also, for some unclear reason, I tend to get consistent suction/peel force related failures, despite my long bottom layer exposure times and releveling. So the peel away tech of this new printer has massive appeal. Any hopes of seeing this tech surface on the next Uniformation printer? Or not needful because of other factors inherent in the GKTwo?
@Londubh
@Londubh 3 ай бұрын
It's awesome that the Calibration mode allows you to specifically set the time, rather than them deciding what the steps will be for you. That allows you a Binary (Quintinary, actually) Search for dialing in a new resin. For example, if consensus is that the optimum print time is somewhere between 3.7 and 4.1, you can do as follows: Print 1: 3.5, 3.75, 4.0, 4.25 --Two Best: 3.75 & 4.0 Print 2: 3.8, 3.85, 3.9, 3.95 --Two best: 3.95, 4.0 Print 3: 3.96, 3.97, 3.98, 3.99 --Two best: 3.96, 3.97 Print 4: 3.962, 3.964, 3.966, 3.968 --Two best: ???? With _one_ more print, splitting the difference between the two best from print 4, and you've dialed in the perfect print time for that resin to the maximum precision in Chitubox. Plus, if one of the earlier prints was "perfect" from your perspective, then you're done. Add in some sort of resin temperature control, and you should have effectively perfect prints every time with only _four_ test prints total.
@matts8023
@matts8023 2 ай бұрын
They disabled this feature on the Saturn 4 (not ultra)
@Londubh
@Londubh 2 ай бұрын
@@matts8023 ...why would they do that? Are the margins on the ultra really that much better?
@matts8023
@matts8023 2 ай бұрын
@@Londubh I imagine so. Classic corporate move. Like pay to use model for a lot of cars these days - you bought the hardware but have to pay subscription to use it.
@Perserra
@Perserra Ай бұрын
Sadly I'm not in a position to get a new printer right now, but your review and Kirioth's have helped me decide it will definitely be a Saturn 4 Ultra when I do.
@FauxHammer
@FauxHammer Ай бұрын
There are other coming out this year… keep an eye out. Love @Kirioth!
@Tarok-2316
@Tarok-2316 3 ай бұрын
Hi Ross, thanks for the video, I was now curious to see how it handles light support, or even very light supports, with this innovative way making the levels. And another thing I'm curious about is if the temperature affects it less then the normal way of printing, of course the best is to have the right temperature, but would be nice to see if this printer is less affected then the others due to this new mechanics.
@jimmyispromo
@jimmyispromo Ай бұрын
Great video
@FauxHammer
@FauxHammer Ай бұрын
Thanks!
@wojteklabuc
@wojteklabuc 2 ай бұрын
I'm binge watching your, and few other creators, videos to figure out which printer I should buy. For upgrading 1:64 and 1:43 model cars. So I will print only small elements, but tricky ones like wheels with all fine details. And then is resin types question because it would be great if it could work with rubber or clear acrylic type resins. Could you advise me where I should look and what printers are with consideration? And thank you for great job you're doing. You saved me already from making mistake. YT is full of videos which are misleading and your channel is so helpful with explanations and knowledge.
@uwegraf8013
@uwegraf8013 3 ай бұрын
Thank you very much Ross. Great Review 👍 Would you still go with the Uniforation GKtwo or with the new Saturn 4 Ultra?
@Jane-de2re
@Jane-de2re Ай бұрын
Saturn 4 Ultra
@markoramljak9579
@markoramljak9579 3 ай бұрын
can you test how saturn 4 ultra would print a flexible resin? those resins require higher lift distances while printing so I'm really curious how, if at all, they would print with this tilting mechanism 🤔
@porksoda0
@porksoda0 3 ай бұрын
I appreciate having the heater and carbon filter as an optional extra, as I print in enclosures with heaters and extraction external to the printer, and i can't be the only one!. I think it makes sense to add those items if you need them as people like me would be put off paying a higher price for these features.
@JC02102
@JC02102 3 ай бұрын
Same. Personally, the carbon filter does absolutely nothing for me. I have an extraction fan hooked up to the back too which on paper should be more than enough but I think the machine (Saturn 2 in this case) just isn't airtight as I need to it be. Without a respirator I can always smell it if I'm in the same room and if I'm there for even 5-10 minutes my throat gets scratchy in a way I've never experienced. Similar story for the heater. Heating the vat instead of the air made more sense to me so I was always going to go DIY.
@BabyJesus66
@BabyJesus66 3 ай бұрын
Agreed. I don't need a heater at all. So I'd prefer to not pay for something I don't need. I wish they'd to that with all the extras that not everyone wants, and just keep the price low as it can be... like the AI camera, I don't care about that at all.
@brianparamore6928
@brianparamore6928 2 ай бұрын
Same here, heat isn’t an issue for me and 400$ for a built in one is a deal breaker. Saturn 3 user patiently waiting on this gem to expand my output
@Immolate62
@Immolate62 2 ай бұрын
Florida man says don't heater me bruh.
@VideoSage
@VideoSage 3 ай бұрын
Forget not, the Prusa Sl1S had a tilting vat too. Though I don't know about the inside workings.
@Nemesis-12
@Nemesis-12 3 ай бұрын
Ross! thanks for another printer review! thanks to your effort I was able to get a uniformation gk2 earlier! (is it still good?) but I could really use some resin suggestion help! please help ross!! 1/6 1/4 scale models is what im currently messing around with! (you did mention Phrozen Aqua Hyperfine! Im just nervous to get started)
@smtkelly
@smtkelly 3 ай бұрын
Great review, does the lid let out resin smells?
@plasia
@plasia 3 ай бұрын
Really interested in the review of the upcoming heater.
@robse1002
@robse1002 3 ай бұрын
Great video, Ross, as always. You do make the best 3D printer reviews on KZfaq. Can't wait for the Sonic Mighty Revo as a comparison now, though I doubt it can compete!
@FauxHammer
@FauxHammer 3 ай бұрын
thanks so much mate, I put my all into this one as it is an important one. Mighty Revo should be about a week. Review is written just need to record tomorrow then edit
@AkalaFPS
@AkalaFPS 3 ай бұрын
Please start comparing printers to the GK Two and similar. I know they compete in difference price brackets but in this case the speed could be a real deciding factor between the two. How does the print speed of the GK Two compare to this printer?
@parallaxgames
@parallaxgames 3 ай бұрын
This is really cool. I like the speed and the detail of it. I don't really like the potential for disaster from the unprotected screen. I've lost screens before due to resin leaking under the tape seal and I don't relish having to replace a screen in something with a tilt mechanism. That said, if they do the same with a Mars ultra later this year, I'll probably be on board.
@scottpovlot7376
@scottpovlot7376 3 ай бұрын
Ross, this really is the best Saturn 4 Ultra review I have seen. I am a bit skeptical about the lack of speed options in the slicer and just Slow/Fast in the printer. I agree that the tilt helps so much with peel forces. This is great for beginners. But more advanced users should be able to experiment with even faster options. Hopefully, an option can be made as firmware update. I was also surprised you didn't mention that a handle would be helpful. I saw you lift the lid with your pinky which is great. And then I thought that I would have a whole bunch of fingerprints all over the front.
@FauxHammer
@FauxHammer 3 ай бұрын
I honestly don;t see the lack of a handle as an issue. it;s why i included that part, if you listen to the audio at that bit you can tell i added in the audio afterwards
@W98Dragon
@W98Dragon 3 ай бұрын
Hey Ross, kinda off topic, but I wiil say it again, I tried your resin and it's superb! Much much better compared to anycubic WW+, I just hope that it doesn't crack as people say waterwashable resins do, even tho I'm printing models that I prime and paint with lacquers...
@Dr_Evil_Prime
@Dr_Evil_Prime 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for your help - Alex
@FauxHammer
@FauxHammer 3 ай бұрын
WOW! Thank you so much Alex!!!!!
@TheHBKV
@TheHBKV 2 ай бұрын
hello between this one and the future m7 Pro from anycubic, which one would you choose? Because I'm very hesitant :) very good video by the way :)
@jakubwitas6627
@jakubwitas6627 2 ай бұрын
Right now I have Mars3 Pro which is printing fine. But I have huge urge to upgrade it to Saturn 4 Ultra but still in back of my head is that that in 1year we will get even better printer so Im not sure If I should wait or give it a try. Nice video as always!
@Rybek
@Rybek 3 ай бұрын
One next interaction. 1) Handle 2) Easy removal of lid without unscrewing anything, just pressing to release 3) Front removal without screws 4) any leak protection inside to catch leaking resin thru the gap. 4) Easy replacement for films by just replacing plastic module so it can take few seconds 5) bigger screen with adjustable position
@Lychee3d
@Lychee3d Ай бұрын
Great video as always! The Saturn 4 and 4K Ultra are already integrated into Lychee. We're working on integrating WiFi and camera features to make them available as soon as possible 😊
@FauxHammer
@FauxHammer Ай бұрын
Thanks guys!!! Oooh that’s exciting, I hope to see your integration method as the current method in this slicer feels a bit Janky
@RumblingBob
@RumblingBob 3 ай бұрын
cool and interesting review! I liked how indepth and technical it was, but i would suggest to cut down on the stock reaction clips. They are too long and don't add anything but interrupt the flow of your visual narration, maybe add them in an overlay over actual footage if you must.
@FauxHammer
@FauxHammer 3 ай бұрын
We keep them to a minimum, there’s genuinely nothing that works better here
@wildguardian
@wildguardian 3 ай бұрын
Tilt releases seems to me not only good for speed, but also for suction cups.. better releasing, and more stability on the axis when a print is a geometrical directly on the build plate kind of prints..
@Drakonaut
@Drakonaut 3 ай бұрын
Good to know that there is not an app for the remote camera monitoring, and I agree that that would have made it easier, since for me remote monitoring would involve me not being at the house while it prints.
@TheOctabreaker
@TheOctabreaker 2 ай бұрын
I don’t necessarily care how my printer looks either, but I do wish it had the like green lid. I’ve pre-ordered it and can’t wait for release!
@fmkkshi
@fmkkshi Ай бұрын
Awesome video! I'm a begginer and the saturn 4 ultra will be my first printer... any tips of wash and cure (2 in 1 would be great) machines to match the saturn 4 ultra?!
@FauxHammer
@FauxHammer Ай бұрын
The Mercury is the one to match the Saturn Ultra
@pimi8522
@pimi8522 24 күн бұрын
Hey FauxHammer, been loving your videos since getting my printer. Question, why do you always pour the resin over the print bed? Is it a "looks good on video" thing or does it actually have some benefit?
@FauxHammer
@FauxHammer 24 күн бұрын
Thanks mate, just looks good on video
@TokynawaTube
@TokynawaTube 3 ай бұрын
Fantastic review Ross! I’ve just purchased the M5S Pro and haven’t even used it yet. But this video has given me serious FOMO. Is it worth selling the M5S Pro and buy the Saturn 4 Ultra? Only reason I bought the M5S Pro was the heater!
@martingranouillet8846
@martingranouillet8846 3 ай бұрын
Hi @fauxHammer thank you for your work and your review. Do have plan a review of the Phrozen Revo ?
@FauxHammer
@FauxHammer 3 ай бұрын
Already done sir, just editing now
@martingranouillet8846
@martingranouillet8846 3 ай бұрын
@@FauxHammer you're the best so existed to this and to compare with the saturn 4. All the best from Paris :)
@JohnSmith-rt5yq
@JohnSmith-rt5yq 3 ай бұрын
tempted to pick this one up. the peel forces on my jupiter are just a pain to manage, this may solve that at the expense of a smaller print area.
@FauxHammer
@FauxHammer 3 ай бұрын
Check the review when it’s out, I think it may push you over the edge
@Barbasnoo
@Barbasnoo 2 ай бұрын
I was about to preorder this printer based on your review I watched a few days ago. Then I remembered affiliate links and how you deserved my click due to the sheer level of quality and effort contained in this video. So just like pikachu, I chose you and ordered it via your link. Also I need you to outlive me so that I never have to be without your videos. K thanks!
@FauxHammer
@FauxHammer 2 ай бұрын
Wow, thankyou!!!!!! One of the kindest comments I’ve ever read!!!
@LuminaryGames
@LuminaryGames 2 ай бұрын
@@FauxHammer Seconded. I have just decided to get into Resin printing. And luckily found your channel and will be making my decision based on your reviews and will make sure to use your affiliate links.
@jeffholt9437
@jeffholt9437 3 ай бұрын
Hopefully not a stupid question but does the tilt function allow for the flat surfaces of a print to be set at less of an angle to the build plate or even set on it?
@mikedunning265
@mikedunning265 3 ай бұрын
Great review. Nice reference to 5th element. 😂
@stratton78ja
@stratton78ja 3 ай бұрын
@FauxHammer Great review!!! Gonna upgrade from my Anycubic Photon M3!! This is an amazing printer! Also what Gundam video is that at the start of the video?
@FauxHammer
@FauxHammer 3 ай бұрын
thanks, it;s not a Gundam video. It's one of the sci fi intro's that KZfaq lets me select for premieres kzfaq.info/get/bejne/odSKgMacpuCXnHk.html here's 10 minutes of it. So cool but also pointless. onc eof the best anime sequence ever tho
@Venturestien
@Venturestien 3 ай бұрын
Ross, I did it. I pre Ordered the Saturn Ultra 4 with your link but now I need some advice. What do I do with my old Anycubic Mono X with a burnt out screen lol. It’s not worth the cost to replace the screen in my opinion and I don’t want to a ship it anywhere due to cost. Thrift shop I guess? Or maybe recycle the UV light for a new post process curing box? What would you do?
@Rh0deRage
@Rh0deRage 3 ай бұрын
Doing it, finally going to upgrade from my gen 1 mars.
@hanysonic
@hanysonic 3 ай бұрын
Me too mate! what a gap!
@DialetoNerd
@DialetoNerd 3 ай бұрын
Tilt release mechanism came around on Prusa SL-1 couple years ago , good video 👏
@dan3dprint183
@dan3dprint183 3 ай бұрын
Formlabs in 2012 used the same system for the Form 1and drop that system in next model Form 2.
@paranoidpanzerpenguin5262
@paranoidpanzerpenguin5262 3 ай бұрын
Tilt releases aren't new, they go way back, they're just new for consumer printers. The SL1S starts at $1700.
@NuarStanger
@NuarStanger 3 ай бұрын
Prusa was the company that released a resin printer with a tilting vat initially I think. But it does seem like a cool feature
@MrMuchoscojones
@MrMuchoscojones 22 күн бұрын
Great review, enjoyed it a lot. With regard to the AI camera lighting issue. I don't really see it as a cheeky on the part of elegoo because you can just light the shot from outside the case, (which they may have done for their shot on their website) with the added advantage of knowing it is going to have any stray 405nm light filtered out.
@thedorklylionchannel415
@thedorklylionchannel415 3 ай бұрын
Do you know the power of the light source? I feel like that is going to start becoming a distinguishing feature as qol catches up across the board.
@simonidentity2630
@simonidentity2630 3 ай бұрын
Is the speed upgrade with the 4 ultra really worth losing build height and being more drippy than the 3 ultra
@Twigz11
@Twigz11 2 ай бұрын
You opened the printer up and mentioned it was simple to do so but how to easy is an LCD replacement?
@Northern_Viking
@Northern_Viking 3 ай бұрын
I love your videos, and i am going to start my own 3d printing journey, so i have 1 question. If money was not a problem, would you choose Uniformation gktwo, or Elegoo Saturn 4 Ultra??
@FauxHammer
@FauxHammer 3 ай бұрын
Depends. Am I printing in my garage? If so, GKTWO. Am I printing in a print farm? Also possibly GKTwo, because of the easily replaceable screen. Am I printing in a room with constant heating? Saturn 4 Ultra I also need to consider the lifespan of the gk2 nowadays
@Northern_Viking
@Northern_Viking 3 ай бұрын
@@FauxHammer What do you mean by the lifespan.? I am going to print in my insulated garage, and to be total honest, I have already ordered the GKtwo. I was just trying to find out if i should cancel my order, and go for the Saturn 4 ultra. 😅 I fear buyers remorse.
@Vulcanobruno
@Vulcanobruno 3 ай бұрын
Thanks again for this video. I bought my first printer because of your videos Unfortunately I didn't watch enough videos to choose a good printer. so I want to change 🤣 I'll be waiting for Sonic's video. From what you said in the chat, it doesn't look great, but we'll see.
@jtrain9926
@jtrain9926 3 ай бұрын
Kudos to Elegoo for some very big innovations with the Saturn 4. I was very close to picking this up, but the lack of a vat heater makes it a pass for me. Specifically, the design of this tank will make it very hard to get a vat-band around (off the shelf fermentation bands will not fit). I print in a garage that gets down to 10C and a chamber heater cannot warm the system up fast/efficiently enough to be practical for me.
@EkaitzHonuchPrieto
@EkaitzHonuchPrieto 2 ай бұрын
This seems like an incredible machine! I got an Anycubic Photon S around two months ago, second hand for 80€ to see if I liked 3d resin printing and I'm loving it, even if it's a bit old and slow haha I'm thinking about buying this one as it's really cheap for all it has here in Europe, but I don't know if it's maybe overkill for a beginner in 3d printing? I do model my own stuff, both artistic and functional
@Sensei-padthai
@Sensei-padthai 2 ай бұрын
Did the tilt mechanism help to reduce supports contact size? Thats the only thing i want to know before i buy. Everything else is good, but to me support size matters allot in my next printer as this affects time and work until finished painted model the most
@jacksmith785
@jacksmith785 3 ай бұрын
Seems like the only aspect of this thing that I'm not thrilled about is the gap above the build plate that makes it harder to scrape resin off. Otherwise, that looks fantastic!
@stefanhaupt4947
@stefanhaupt4947 3 ай бұрын
same here. I wonder what could we do do make this better?
@Immolate62
@Immolate62 2 ай бұрын
@@stefanhaupt4947 whip our you Bambu and print a shroud! I suspect one will be available soon.
@amberharvey4566
@amberharvey4566 3 ай бұрын
what i would rather have is a model without the camera at all, I'm a hobbyist printer i don't need time lapses and i don't want to pay the cost of a feature i wont use in the final price tag , it should be a detachable extra like the filters.
@AdrianGreen-qr4yy
@AdrianGreen-qr4yy 3 ай бұрын
great informative review on the Saturn 4 ultra. the tilting vat seems a game changer for ease of use not having to calibrate lifting time duration/speed is brilliant. 5th element reference FTW!
@FauxHammer
@FauxHammer 3 ай бұрын
Multipass!
@AdrianGreen-qr4yy
@AdrianGreen-qr4yy 3 ай бұрын
@@FauxHammer Yea she knows its a multipass!
@awildtomappeared5925
@awildtomappeared5925 3 ай бұрын
the s3u had a glass screen protector, if you try and scratch the corner of the screen with a craft knife or something and it doesn't scratch then it's glass so it must be a screen protector, if it scratches then it could be a plastic protector but more likely just no protector. Also, an overlooked feature of the tilting vat is that it will keep the resin mixed much more which is great for long prints (well it would be if the vat was big enough to fit more resin, m3 premium vat is a godsend) or resins that seperate a lot.
@awildtomappeared5925
@awildtomappeared5925 3 ай бұрын
2:20 that bolt on the lid, if you tighten it does the lid have more friction? I made a lid mod for my saturn 1 using hinges from a monitor that I could adjust the friction on by tightening a bolt, and I've recently made a 3d printed hinge that works just the same, when I get around to it I will mod my m3 premium and saturn 3u with the printed hinge and share how I did it
@Phobos2k
@Phobos2k 3 ай бұрын
I have very probably seen a big problem. At 19:12 you can see how the spring at the front right relaxes when the tank is lowered and is compressed again when the tank is raised. So the LCD is pressing on the model.
@FauxHammer
@FauxHammer 3 ай бұрын
I think that’s just the bed raising. If this were pressing on the model, I’m sure I would have seen issues
@techlabs9385
@techlabs9385 3 ай бұрын
What would you choose between this and Anycubic M5s-Pro? 🙏😊
@vittorio785
@vittorio785 7 күн бұрын
complimenti per i tuoi video sempre molto dettagliati , ho iniziato a seguirti proprio perche' spieghi tutto quello che c e da sapere al riguardo, io mi trovo in un limbo , voglio comprare una nuova stampante a resina con un maggior campo di stampa , ho avuto fin ad oggi una Elegoo Mars Pro ma ora ho esigenze diverse di stampa in termini di grandezza. Posso chiederti un consiglio da esperto su cosa puntare tra la Elegoo Saturn 3 ultra o la 4?????? grazie
@Gaston12345
@Gaston12345 3 ай бұрын
I have seen feature requests on the prusa platform to enable switching off the tilting. Reason: as the tilting force is not perpendicular, the parts tend to warp. Is this likely to be an issue? If so, I would suggest a printer with two tilting mechanisms, one on each side, so the tilting could be done alternatively front-down and back-down, to even that out. Would not even be much more expensive imo.
@robse1002
@robse1002 3 ай бұрын
There it is! I'm hyped :)
@FauxHammer
@FauxHammer 3 ай бұрын
Sorry to have kept you waiting.
@robse1002
@robse1002 3 ай бұрын
@@FauxHammer Dude, no! I didn't mean it like that :) As I said, you're just doing the best reviews and I've been hyped for your opinion on this one! We all know you're working very hard!
@FauxHammer
@FauxHammer 3 ай бұрын
@@robse1002 No no, it's fine, I am genuinely just sorry this has taken so long. to you and everyone! I assume now you've seen how much has gone into this one. It is a milestone product and I wanted to get it right rather than rush it out to be "first" with a review.
@SCHRUBBE1966
@SCHRUBBE1966 3 ай бұрын
Ok. Now you got a good review
@user-fp5bq4rg4c
@user-fp5bq4rg4c 2 ай бұрын
Saturn 4 ultra with the $50 elegoo mini heater or the gktwo for printing my own stuff? Also new to printing.
@TheRockDK
@TheRockDK 2 ай бұрын
How's the seal on lid regarding resin fumes? I have a Mars 4 9k and the lid does a great job keeping the fumes inside when not in use.
@_droid
@_droid 23 күн бұрын
Most anything with a tilt lid like this isn't going to seal well (or at all really). Form over function I guess. The "old" style full covers are MUCH easier to seal. We've come to the point where it's pretty much a requirement to add a cover to the cover. WTF, right?!
@arestris
@arestris Ай бұрын
Have a Mars 2, that I didn't use for some time now. But getting back to 3d printing right now and preordered the Saturn 4 ultra. I guess I can expect a plus in quality compared to the mars 2 here?
@ceobe7458
@ceobe7458 3 ай бұрын
hey quick question. I have never had a resin printer before, and all the talk or the air purifiers scares me a little bit. If i got a printer, id mainly have to keep it in my bedroom. So, how good are the elegoo filters? Would it be ok for me just to use 1, or 2, of the USB filter sticks (not sure which printer ill get, might help decide)? would the mars mate filter be ok? or would the only real solution for to get one that filters everything outside through a hose, through my window. i was planning on getting either the saturn 3 or the ultra version, but if the saturn 4 series will have an external port for this, maybe that would be a better fit. i wouldn't print very often either, maybe once a week at most, if that changes anything
@Superflyent
@Superflyent 3 ай бұрын
I’m curious about one thing, seeing that the ultra 3 which is what I own and this are essentially using the same internals, will the 3 ultra get this resin calibration capability in a firmware update possibly? Or maybe it has and I did not realize or update it yet, I don’t update when I have it working perfectly with PFA film, firth thing that was done when I received it.
@gkaruk
@gkaruk 3 ай бұрын
Great review as always. I would buy now based on this... except.... no heater, which in a UK garage setup is a must. Can I ask the heater test includes how well does when using the venting hole also? I just don't see how that heater will provide adequate, consistent resin temperature. For me as my first switch to resin printing gkTwo with its heated bed still winning. I'm really hoping Elegoo can compete on the heater requirement as for budget with wash n cure also best deal... tbc
@TheMrPedrose
@TheMrPedrose 3 ай бұрын
Aye, I’m thinking exactly the same- once I’ve cleared a space in my garage 🤣
@FauxHammer
@FauxHammer 3 ай бұрын
yeah, I think that's my conclusion, and look this accessory is a chamber heater, they only do so much and it's an inefficient way of heating too! i think I'd much prefer some kind of Vat band or.... I'll have to stick with the GKTWO
@gkaruk
@gkaruk 3 ай бұрын
Just seen Anycubic has new printer coming this year with heated bed, its the Anycubic Photon Mono M7 Pro. Is it on your review plans FauxHammer?
@HasteHobbies
@HasteHobbies 3 ай бұрын
Yup heating is essential for my setup too
@teabagNBG
@teabagNBG 2 ай бұрын
cant decide if i should get this one or the m7 pro from anycubic
@Mrpancake72
@Mrpancake72 2 ай бұрын
So i want to ask...if it's shifting the resin in the vat that also mixes the resin to reduce the amount of separation of the resin??
@jamessalisbury3320
@jamessalisbury3320 2 ай бұрын
So do you actually level the plate or no? I mean, any screws need loosening/tightening?
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