Ferdinand Ries - Piano Concerto No. 5 "Pastoral", Op. 120 (1814)

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Ferdinand Ries - Piano Concerto No. 5 "Pastoral", Op. 120 (1814)

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Ferdinand Ries (28 November 1784 [baptised] - 13 January 1838) was a German composer. Ries was a friend, pupil and secretary of Ludwig van Beethoven. He composed eight symphonies, a violin concerto, eight piano concertos, three operas, and numerous other works in many genres, including 26 string quartets. In 1838 he published a collection of reminiscences of his teacher Beethoven, co-written with Franz Wegeler. The symphonies, some chamber works -most of them with piano- his violin concerto and his piano concertos have been recorded, demonstrating a style which is, unsurprising due to his connection to Beethoven, somewhere between those of the Classical and early Romantic eras.
Piano Concerto No. 5 in D major, "Pastoral" Op. 120. London 1814.
Dedication: A son altesse royale Oscar I prince héréditaire de suede [also of Norway]
I. Allegro
II. Andantino
III. Rondo. Allegro
Christopher Hinterhuber, piano and the Bournemouth Symphony Orchestra conducted by Uwe Grodd
According to Allen Bradley in the liner notes to the Naxos recording, the composer's manuscript is undated making it difficult to determine exactly at what point the composer started working on this concerto. However the works dedication to Prince Oscar of Sweden, suggests that he started work on the concerto during his time in Sweden and worked intermittently on it, along with revisions to the Piano Concerto Op. 55 until around 1815-16. This would make the concerto the sixth of the composers eight piano concertos to be written. The concertos publication in 1823 came at a time when Ries was retiring from active performing and so no longer needed to keep secret the works he relied on in performance.

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@philliphamilton3591 3 жыл бұрын

I really do not care if it sounds like Beethoven or not. It is simply a joy to discover something new. Delightful in its own right.

@FreakieFan 3 жыл бұрын

Completely agreed!

@renatohauptmann5548 Жыл бұрын

Ries was Beethoven s pupil.

@sousafan100 3 жыл бұрын

i see our friend ferdi is now all over music choice on tv as well as utube - good for him - justly rediscovered at last...

@user-dv5yp5fd7y 3 жыл бұрын

4:21 really reminds me of Beethoven's 5th Violin Sonata, in F Major!

@Claudio3689p 3 жыл бұрын

In some places it reminds me Beethoven's violin concert.

@songur0614 3 жыл бұрын

I was listening this for first time and i said this is the spring sonata, and after 10 seconds i swear i saw your comment. What a coincidence.

@wilhelmorangenbaum163 3 жыл бұрын

It just "reminds" you? I'm pretty sure it is an actual paraphrase of the sonata theme

@mirrors1 2 жыл бұрын

Sappiamo tutti che Ries fu uno dei più migliori allievi di Beethoven. Troppo grande il Maestro, direi gigantesco, perché non si sentano echi della sua musica. Ma del resto questo è accaduto anche con altri compositori persino acerrimi nemici di Beethoven. Infatti esiste una musica prima di Beethoven e una dopo di lui. Tutti hanno dovuto fare i conti con il genio dei geni. Ascoltate questo bellissimo Concerto senza pensare a Beethoven o a Chopin che Ries non poteva conoscere. E' Ries: bellissima musica che ha una sua nobiltà e certamente una bellissima carica emozionale.

@aramkhachaturian8043 3 жыл бұрын

It's like we just got free DLC from Beethoven.

@Amourtendresse 10 ай бұрын

Superbe 🎶💓🎶✨

@byronsutherland1380 3 жыл бұрын

Majestic with romantic echoes forming the bridge between Beethoven and Chopin

@maelughran6981 3 жыл бұрын

As a HUGE Ludwig van Beethoven fan Ries' composition is very Beethovenesque! It's almost as if Ferdinand has taken small extracts from Ludwig's works and somehow weaved them all into some sort of pastiche. Nevertheless its lovely to listen to, and a real treat to hear something different but which at the same time sounds like LvB could have created it himself. It really is quite xtraordinary to think that despite his efforts LvB did not always get the reaction from his contemporaneous audiences that you might (now) expect. Many thanks, Bartje.

@francobonanni218 3 жыл бұрын

We must ot forget that Beethoven was His teacher in composition Ries had manu opportunities to see Beethoven's works infact Beethoven suspected everyone that entered in his home. He tried to copy Beethoven's style but he did not have his genius. This concerto seems mixture of more of Beethoven's works but it does not have Beethoven's motives developed as Beethoven did. RIES however ties his music close to the Romantic era...he treats the piano close to Chopin, Even if he does not have the harmonic progressions of Chopin...but I may say great music.

@bartjebartmans 3 жыл бұрын

Ries wrote his concertos for himself, as such they were a source of income, that also meant he had to be sensitive to what audiences loved to hear and see, without losing integrity. I think he passed with flying colors. Compared to similar composers of the day, including the later Chopin, his orchestral tutti's are excellent, well orchestrated. He gave the orchestra not just accompaniments but also respect. People don't seem to notice that he leaves it up to the orchestra to finish the concertos or movements. French Hornists must have loved playing his music as they are often highlighted thematically and are not just fluff and treated as filling-in chords and bland textures. The same can be said how he treats the woodwinds, always something to do for them. That seems something he learned from Mozart concertos, which Beethoven picked up in turn.

@mmbmbmbmb 3 жыл бұрын

How fortunate for me, that I feel no need to 'compare' nor 'dissect' Ferdinand Ries' compositions. Reading through the comments, while joyfully listening to his music was somewhat disturbing and brought me to the conclusion to refrain from that in the future ;o) Vivat Ferdinand Ries ... and Bartje Bartmans! Thank you!

@rosannamasini2075 3 жыл бұрын

Stupenda Maestro grazie

@Tonal.Harmony 3 жыл бұрын

Never heard this composer. Beautiful. Keep them coming!

@user-ru8vy1uz7c 3 жыл бұрын

Bravo brilliance super music concerto

@ronaldbwoodall2628 3 жыл бұрын

After hearing several of Ries' Concertos, two questions formed in my mind: What did these two composers think of each other's music?, and to what extent is Beethoven's assumed superiority as a composer dependent on the relative familiarity of his music? Yes I know, Beethoven's music is performed more frequently precisely because it is "better" - or is it? Maybe there are also other reasons to be pondered; in any case, as gorgeous as Ries's Concertos are, it's a wonder that they didn't enter the popular repertoire or gain more performances. In this 5th Concerto, the extended horn passage at 18:24 introducing the final movement is wonderful, as is the melody at 23:16 (to cite two examples among others), Thanks to these artists and all concerned who were instrumental in allowing us to hear and enjoy all of Ries' concertos and other works as well.

@agseu3668 2 жыл бұрын

Meu caro, se você não nota a diferença entre a essencialidade de Beethoven e o talento espampanante de Ries, desculpe, não tenho como lhe explicar, porque jamais me entenderá, ainda que eu escreva em inglês.

@waalererik Жыл бұрын

O yes, i like Ries😄

@alessandropalazzani 3 жыл бұрын

Ries, he never start a piece with the tonic chord! Great music

@bartjebartmans 3 жыл бұрын

Ries had a bit of Beethoven's antagonism in him, he even looked like him. Lol. I often wonder what kind of conversations they had, as Beethoven was very difficult to get along with. Socially inept or blunt most of the time.

@leofu97 3 жыл бұрын

@@bartjebartmans Beethoven really was highly emotionally intelligent human being, in no way socially inept. He just had no patience for aristocratic snobism and people who cared more about status than the content of his music. If you read about his interactions with friends and fans, he was a humble man, full of integrity and fairness.

@bartjebartmans 3 жыл бұрын

Sure, but what about his anger management problems, destroying his piano, throwing a guy out of the Beer Stube, having fist fights, huge tantrums, screaming matches, hitting his fists on tables, culminating in the tortuous court case he instigated against his sister in law for custody of his nephew Karl. Ludwig's constant barrage of insults toward Johanna as a "bad" and even "poisonous" presence in his life, seems to have created the same "bad" identification in Karl. The whole affaire reads like a soap opera. I read many of his letters. He could be brutally blunt, read what he said about Maelzel, calling him a scoundrel, a scumbag. In his defense it must have been unimaginably difficult to know you are losing your hearing, it is very well possible that was a big part of his frustrations and anger with the world. And then he had no luck with women, that really hurt him.

@lexah4266 3 жыл бұрын

on the 5th is better 🤣

@magusl9628 3 жыл бұрын

@@bartjebartmans I don't think Beethoven was that hard to get along with, unless he wanted to. Yes, he had a very hot temper, also remember his father was very abusive toward him and when his mother died, he took care of his brothers just like he intended to do with Karl. But Beethoven had lots of friends and a very soft heart, despite his fire, temper and genius mind!

@nickjgunning 3 жыл бұрын

Liszt's father, Adam taught Franz these concertos when he was quite young, which implies he must have been a competent pianist as well as cellist.

@TenorCantusFirmus 3 жыл бұрын

Sounds like a cross between Beethoven's violin Concerto, fourth piano Concerto and sixth Symphony...

@arturmoraes5655 3 жыл бұрын

Maybe thats because fernand ries was a close friend of beethoven

@TenorCantusFirmus 3 жыл бұрын

@@arturmoraes5655 I know and he also was pupil of him. Just he often come to the ears as a bit of a mannerist of him too...

@arturmoraes5655 3 жыл бұрын

@@TenorCantusFirmus yes

@asaadnaeem4121 3 жыл бұрын

Very nice

@jacobbump1282 3 жыл бұрын

This is great! Thank you so much. I am not sure if you take requests but I would love for you to post Berlioz's Requiem sometime, if you can. Thanks so much for these videos.

@trysubscribe25 3 жыл бұрын

Congreduation Bartje Bartmans you have reached 45k followers

@VincentPollender 3 жыл бұрын

Allegro 00:01 Andantino 13:32 Rondo 19:08

@Pablo-vz4ir 3 жыл бұрын

I rate the an....... INTERESTING/10

@pedroluis7669 3 жыл бұрын

It's a shame we know so little about the composers outside the well-know mainstream Bach, Chopin, Beethoven, Listz and Wagner (eventually, Schubert). Why that happens? Maybe those less-know composers were at the wrong place at the wrong time? Sincerely, I have no ideia

@pawncube2050 3 жыл бұрын

I guess by one reason or the other they just fade away until someone brings them back. Wasn't that the case with Bach until Mendehlson made him popular? Or Alkan until many pianists started playing his music

@bartjebartmans 3 жыл бұрын

@Lunar Orbit exactly. Claudio Monteverdi's Mary Vespers are of a stupendous level. The architecture and creativity, resembling and exploring the acoustics of St. Mark, Venice is unparalleled in Western music. And if you look at the instruments those guys had to work with it gets even more mindboggling, not to mention their mastery of Polyphony. True Masters of Music. Pencil, ink pen, Feather Quill, candlelight. Superior to most 21st Century dabblers in music enabled by technology.

@pedroluis7669 3 жыл бұрын

@@pawncube2050 Alkan is a really good example

@isaacanwarwatts8844 3 жыл бұрын

@@bartjebartmans Perhaps but I dont think it is fair to compare one small part of music in the 16-17th century to things being written nowadays. There would have been plenty of church music being written that lacked in creativity, only we have no reason to hear it 400 years on. Music now is so broad that it can have no objective quality and no one style. Theres jazz, contemporary etc. And very much of it is completely non reliant on technology especially in the case of composers of the older generation.

@bartjebartmans 3 жыл бұрын

@@isaacanwarwatts8844 Are you aware that Medieval and Renaissance was as diverse as contemporary styles? It is NOT a small portion of history, we are talking about 600, 700 years of music development. The Notre Dame school, Perotin, Leonin (c. 1100-1200) in Paris already experimented on a level most nowadays would be envious of. Renaissance and especial Medieval Music, Ars Nova, Ars Antiqua, are least understood of Western Music by the general audience at large.

@TempodiPiano 3 жыл бұрын

Les deux premiers mouvements me semblent très convenus mais le finale est enlevé, entre Beethoven voire Mozart et Chopin.

@jimmywalsh6701 3 жыл бұрын

👏👌

@divox9pqr 3 жыл бұрын

Hear a lot of Beethoven particularly the Emperor. Beautiful music though.

@russellgrant1535 3 жыл бұрын

Amen

@trysubscribe25 3 жыл бұрын

Bartje Bartmans can you upload Mozart music you have a long time didn't upload them.

@bartjebartmans 3 жыл бұрын

You are joking aren't you? 18 sonatas plus at least 10 sets of variations in the past couple of weeks. As much as I love Mozart, there is much more out there to be explored.

@abxgdtyu8542 3 жыл бұрын

Hello can you upload some music by chopin to your channel thx.