Fifth Gear: Ford Escort Cosworth vs Ford Focus RS

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16 жыл бұрын

5th Gear's Vicky Butler-Henderson compares the Ford Escort Cosworth versus the Ford Focus RS on track.

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@djmorgan5708 6 жыл бұрын

This is the only thing i hate about Cosworth's. As a young lad i always wanted one. I could buy one, but the insurance i couldn't. Now being 36 i can now afford the insurance, i now can't afford the dam car!

@tasostasos3924 5 жыл бұрын

@gerardhealy2110 4 жыл бұрын

lol... dont worry your not alone

@Shane-zx4ps 4 жыл бұрын

Your lucky, I couldn’t afford the foking.. don’t mind the insurance

@YK-fj5bj 3 жыл бұрын

Story of my life! All of these modern classics have gone bonkers.

@MrPilotGunner 11 жыл бұрын

Prodigy and Cosworth = EPIC

@theant9821 8 жыл бұрын

and to think that the cosworths chassis was designed in the early eighties (it's basically a short wheel Base Sierra cosworth that looks like an escort). Bring back homologation and legendary cars will be made again.

@supremefantastic 9 жыл бұрын

Escort RS Cosworth and 3-d Sierra RS Cosworth = My dream cars, I hope I'll own one some day. :)

@l34052 8 жыл бұрын

In my younger days the Sierra and Escort cossie were my dream cars and I'd love to own either of them today, I don't feel that way towards the focus. Today's cars are all heavy and have too many electronics, cars back then were simpler and more involving to drive. The Sierra and Escort cossie are both cult cars that will be collectable items, I can't see the focus ever ending up the same.

@Ignas359 8 жыл бұрын

Yeah, the focus is just.. okay. I like the general look of it, but can't get over how awful the interior is. The stock shape of it is already pretty lame with random lines and a seeming lack of some unified style, but they just HAD to slap on the blue accents which make it look like some DIY rice. Escort looks by far more luxurious when it comes to that, or even the Sierra Cosworth for that matter, even if you can tell it's a bit dated.

@theant9821 7 жыл бұрын

Ignas359 though the focus rs i thought was awful at the time but now i reckon they look spot on, and after driving one i had to have one

@Ignas359 7 жыл бұрын

The ANT Like I said, it's fine, pretty cool even, but I think the Sierra/Escort RS are still better cars.

@theant9821 7 жыл бұрын

Ignas359 what is better? my favourite gti is the mk2 but in comparison to a mk7 they are awful, but the mk1 and 2 are incredible still. the cosworths left a legacy, which very few cars can do. my favourite ford is the rs500 cosworth, but my mk1 focus rs is a far better car in reality, and by modern standards even that is poor. but i have what i need to keep me excited. i just wish there were homologation cars again. then we could have the best of both worlds. like we used to.

@Ignas359 7 жыл бұрын

Well for starters, the Focus can't even beat the Escort on the track, as shown in the video. Given the similarities in chassis and engine, I doubt it could even beat either the MK1 or MK2 Sierra. At the very least, it would be really close. As for the rest, I already said in my previous comment - Interior looks far, far worse on the Focus. As if you took the standard Focus and bought some $5 'tuning' bits and pieces from your local store. I don't think it can compare to the Escort at all. Comparing to the Sierra though, you can tell which one is clearly older, but even then, take a late model Cossie with full black leather and it will still look nicer and more luxurious than the Focus. Exterior is rather subjective, and the Focus isn't bad, but if I had to choose.. well, Focus would be the last. Other than that, it might have some more bells and whistles due to being a newer car, possibly more reliable (though that isn't always the case and I don't know about how well the Focus RS compares here) and some more safety features, that's about it.

@richhughes7450 2 жыл бұрын

Would love one now as much as I did back then.

@ian7675 14 жыл бұрын

As a young boy, the Escort Cosworth was, and still is my dream car. There's something quite special about it and attracts a lot of attention. The Focus not so much.

@monkeyboydai 14 жыл бұрын

Old skool! Gotta love the Cossie even tho the Focus is a great car I'd still opt for the one from my generation. I grew up with the Escort Cosworth as the ultimate 'I want one of those' cars.

@vincesplc 9 жыл бұрын

Both stunning cars!!

@manlikemike8206 8 жыл бұрын

Who thinks they should do a 2020 escort cosworth

@GeneralPadron 8 жыл бұрын

How about a 1985.5 Ford Escort Cosworth?

@driftmasterflex8849 7 жыл бұрын

Joseph Caesar Padrón fuckin shut up about the old 85' escorts😂😂

@calumohanlon6426 6 жыл бұрын

Nah, it's had it's day and it was and still is a legend, time for focus and fiesta now, but id rather have and escos

@keysersoze2313 6 жыл бұрын

Calum O'Hanlon Road legal version of the Fiesta R5 rally car!

@PritchyTurbo2000 5 жыл бұрын

RWD version 🤔

@richardtattersall647 10 жыл бұрын

the cossie is an all round better car end of. ;-}

@scottlee2421 6 жыл бұрын

1st of september ..my twelfth birthday and my dream car ...even now ....

@peterjones5086 8 жыл бұрын

My dad used to have a cosworth rs when i was kid, we had a lot of fun

@peevee01 16 жыл бұрын

Awesome, Love both of them!! Have wanted an esc cos since the first time i saw one!

@lewis72 15 жыл бұрын

The Escort Cossie, as suggested in this article, was entirely built by Karmann (as in Karmann Ghia). They chopped a Sierra platrofm and grafted an Escort shell on it. Cosworth did the engine upgrades but i don't know who did the chassis.

@gixxerich 15 жыл бұрын

I live in the uk and i only see maybe 1 or 2 a year, I would love to get one

@HoracePL 16 жыл бұрын

I love both the Sierra and the Focus :)

@dungareesareforfools 6 жыл бұрын

I was surprised at the result of that as I remember seeing (on Top Gear perhaps) a comparison made when the Focus RS came out which claimed that the Focus was faster in anything but a straight line.

@mcebz1 10 жыл бұрын

Owned a red lux one on a 96 N 03-05 got to be my all time favourite car

@hutchy1111 14 жыл бұрын

Thanks mate...really appreciate your advice. The Cossie is a cult car for sure and always a memory for me growing up! They still make my heart race when I see one! lol

@timisprenger446 6 жыл бұрын

loving loving loving both of them

@peter8084 5 жыл бұрын

I had an Escort Cossie Lux model back in the day, treated myself after my divorce. Same colour, 18" Rondells, coilovers, sold it when the turbo oil seals went on it, wish I hadn't now !!

@danreilly7768 7 жыл бұрын

Classic cars in my opinion are a lot better cars these days, the feel and attention you get from a rare car being on the road feels so good. I owned classic vws such as the corrado g60 and golf highline vr6 but always wanted a Cosworth. Now I just moved to America I cannot get one :(

@ratfink409 14 жыл бұрын

We needed this Escort. But we never got it. Yet another awesome car that America didn't get.

@Q3ToPBuZz 4 жыл бұрын

I remember my local carwash had a sign saying no "Escort Cosworths" because the whale tail used to get damaged by the rotating brushes.

@0thingthing0 15 жыл бұрын

i saw an escort cosworth the other day. quite rare in australia as they weren't even sold here

@rscosworthfan 10 жыл бұрын

id take the escort cossie over the shitty replacement focus any day

@mickdick1138 9 жыл бұрын

My dad owns a escort cossie

@mickdick1138 9 жыл бұрын

The MineCartKid With Transformers with a Sierra Engine

@minicossie 9 жыл бұрын

Well the sierra and the escort have the same engine..

@jpepper82 8 жыл бұрын

+minicossie They're actually the same car. It's just a Sierra with escort body styling. Not one panel of an Escort will fit an Escort Cossie

@dvsrs1989 8 жыл бұрын

+The MineCartKid With Transformers My dad knows karate.

@thebossisheretostay 9 жыл бұрын

RS Cosie is a top 10 car since I can remember. The Focus does look pretty awesome too though

@erebus38 13 жыл бұрын

It's said that a few cosworths were imported into the U.S.but I've never seen them.However,there was a german Ford with a very similar chassis that I've seen before.They were called MERKUR.And no,I'm not talking about a Mercury either.It was called the Merkur XR4Ti.I'm not exactly sure if either car has a relation or not,but I love the look of the Cosworth.And yes,I do like the unorthodox looking rear spoiler.It's just different,that's all.

@meady200 11 жыл бұрын

That was during a particularly bad period in the 80's with joy riding. My Focus RS Mk2 only cost me £320 to insure this year (2013).

@zenzombie72 13 жыл бұрын

@SgtWhiteVN We bow to your expertise.

@afroaliens 3 жыл бұрын

Ten years later, Jason Potato drove the same car around the track at 1:25...

@dlg78 14 жыл бұрын

Escort Cosworth. The body shell of a 1990's shopping car fitted with the floorpan of a 1983 family hatchback. Nice work.

@shahrulaiman9895 9 жыл бұрын

I love escort ... And the cossie too.

@donraggo77 9 жыл бұрын

Shahrul Aiman the Escort WAS the only Cosworth, the Focus is an RS, not an RS Cosworth.. ;)

@scoobyjoni4476 8 жыл бұрын

+Don Raggo dont forget the sierra cosworth

@donraggo77 8 жыл бұрын

+ScoobyJoni oh hell yeah, the RS500 is a beautiful beast !!

@hutchy1111 12 жыл бұрын

@danny04666 Type: YBT Capacity: 1993cc Bore/stroke: 90.82mm x 76.95mm Compression ratio: 8:1 Max power: 227 bhp @ 6250 rpm Max torque: 220 lbf.ft @ 3500 rpm Cylinders: four, in-line Cylinder head: alloy Block: cast iron Installation: front-mounted, longitudinal Valve gear: four valves per cylinder, twin belt driven overhead camshaft Induction: Garrett AiResearch T3 turbo, intercooler, Weber Marelli management system Performance Max speed: 140 mph 0-60 mph: 5.7 sec

@kristianbrandt3012 5 жыл бұрын

I really wish they gave the latest RS a Cosworth badge.

@djcocum 12 жыл бұрын

In case you didn't notice, in the second lap there's no drift at all

@ryanwalker199 6 жыл бұрын

I own a Focus RS, completely unmodified. Beautiful car

@hutchy1111 14 жыл бұрын

forgot to add........there is a vid of me driving the Scooby at Knockhill.......hope you like?

@bighands69 12 жыл бұрын

I used to have a Escort cos but I still love the classic Mustangs. To be honest Both American and European fords are both unique and I my self do not like one over the other. Love the direction that some of the new American cars are going in. They both have power and have great handling.

@sxceyes 14 жыл бұрын

this show never seems to get i nice day

@liamschannel6294 4 жыл бұрын

What year was this episode released does anyone know??

@Dcastkid 15 жыл бұрын

And UNKLE's remix of No One Knows. Brilliant soundtrack; fitting for the Cosworth.

@paddysindy 15 жыл бұрын

whats the track in the first minute or so, have been trying to find out for ages.

@corsarob0 14 жыл бұрын

she said she still get a thrill from the cossie after 15 years i bet she don't get the same feeling from the focus in 15 years. Cosworth is legendary.

@NadaII 10 жыл бұрын

now thats progress!

@Foconagorda 11 жыл бұрын

Go to Brazil, pleaze!

@sspope 15 жыл бұрын

The new Focus was launched in 2004 and this episode is from 2008.

@SabberJupp 2 жыл бұрын

But in my, and perhaps only my opinion, this Focus MK1 was the much more beautiful car.

@Livautowerx 15 жыл бұрын

The Escort (and Sierras) were taken by coswotrth before they were even half built, so that they could finish them properly. Anything that rolls off a Ford production line, even with an RS badge on it cannot compare. Escort RS Cosworth was in the early 90's and still is today the car i would most love to own! ( and it wont be long before they get back up to the £25k they once were!)

@kipstar81 12 жыл бұрын

I dont think i'll ever be lucky enough to on a Cosworth myself, (just too expensive to buy and run, for me!) but i have owned an S1 Escort RS Turbo and i'm currently on the look out for a clean Escort RS1600i! :) If you ever fancy a trip over to England, try and time it for around August time, because thats when Ford Fair is usualy on and weather permiting (50/50 chance over here!) its probably the best day out for any (european) Ford fan! More Cosworths there than you can shake a stick at! :D

@hutchy1111 14 жыл бұрын

Absolutely love all Cosworths....the original Sierra RS Cosworth, the Sierra RS500 Cosworth, Sapphire RS Cosworth, Sapphire RS Cosworth 4x4 and the almighty Escort Cosworth :-) I grew up as a young boy dreaming of owning one and will one day if I can find a good one. I have a 2004 Subaru Impreza STI at the moment....wonder how it would compare with the cossie around a track?

@seldian 14 жыл бұрын

Can the cosworth motor be swapped into any escort?

@Positive_rate_gear_up 14 жыл бұрын

ive got a mk one focus rs, just did alot of of work and got it up to 319bhp....yes its fun to drive :-)

@thenightwalker99 14 жыл бұрын

The cossie is just a tubo-nutter car. I love it more than life itself (sometimes) Its the car that made me into a petrolhead. Yes it looks stupid, yes its old, but who cares!

@turbo311 14 жыл бұрын

Focus SVT was good! Thank god Fords getting it right now and bringing US the the Euro focus. Won't get the RS though, not the first time around anyway. I hate that none of our hatches come with Brembos or Recaros. You can only get that stuff on Evo's and STI's here.

@viperz888 12 жыл бұрын

of course!

@xRxixcxhxtxexrx 15 жыл бұрын

I would like to see how the Cosy performs against the new RS Focus, that would be interesting.

@halflife103 13 жыл бұрын

@soundseeker63 4wd or Awd?

@603SVT 15 жыл бұрын

Whale Tail Spoiler that vastly improved the handling FTW

@vp5 4 жыл бұрын

This escort still has less than 16000 miles on it. It's obviously being kept in storage and only does about 10 miles per year! At the moment anyway. When she tested it back then in 2005?, it had about 10 thousand on it.

@crazymxrider 15 жыл бұрын

Warp brothers - Blast the speakers iirc

@DoctorNumber46 15 жыл бұрын

no but in the new one; they have a new type of front suspension which they say takes all the torque steer

@jhonradakovich5516 5 жыл бұрын

La alegria que tenia al correr el ford escot coswort

@Iceoo71000 6 жыл бұрын

An Escort Cosworth from "Wolf"... thats fun!

@gixxerich 15 жыл бұрын

both of these cars cost about the same now.. shows u how good the escort is

@rickydub6950 3 жыл бұрын

Scarily the newest 3 cylinder Fiesta ST beat the same Esc Cos on a recent 5th Gear 😥. Still my dream car regardless 😁

@Yanp87 14 жыл бұрын

Clarkson actually loves the ZR1

@gabrielpoa2007 15 жыл бұрын

What"s the name of first song 00:00-00:51 plzz. I"ve been looking it for years,seems Porn Kings-Up to no good,but is not.This song is from 1996-1997 ,I like it a lot and i can"t find it!Excuse my poor english.

@countrywideboy 13 жыл бұрын

@aflipz Too right.... I had an old skool mk2 Escort RS2000 flat fronted 1977 shell replica.. arched,roll caged, the lot with an all steel mostly cossie and Burton 2.2 L engine on 48 webbers.nearly pushing 200 bhp compared to the new stuff..it was untouchable.. I wish I'd never sold it...

@deanboucher2067 Жыл бұрын

Should have kept the escort, love them cars

@SlagathoR45 15 жыл бұрын

the road going one is mainly just an economy car. 4wd would lessen the mileage and be more expensive. not to say it wouldn't be insane and much more fun to drive. but that's just why

@bigun1999999 14 жыл бұрын

Im 17 and dream of the day i can be insured on a car like this. Atm my best quote is 2600 on a 1.3 fiesta

@ripspeed6685 11 жыл бұрын

Bass in the place London!

@BigRLH 2 жыл бұрын

Great car the Escort Cosworth is.Its worth over £30k nowadays

@dsportnissan 14 жыл бұрын

never knew that...I pretty much ignored the zx2, ford here only puts work into the mustangs!! I drive a 240sx, but I would love to see either of these on the street...can't wait to see what they have coming. i hope they're not all mini vans lol. he would'nt tell me what they were on the list of vehicles, he only said they have 6 euro models?

@Gearhead7687 15 жыл бұрын

I want a Cosworth so bad, too bad that getting one in America is just about impossible...

@turbo311 14 жыл бұрын

And I want the real hardcore seats that are optional. Just like the ones in the Clio 200 Cup. That little thing even has Brembos. I actually want Renault here more.

@gsinghbance 15 жыл бұрын

i wouldnt be so sure, the new rs has front wheel drive. It would probably win but will suffer from alot of understeer/torquesteer round the bends. It wont be able to match the cossie's cornering speeds but will edge it on the straights.

@Livautowerx 13 жыл бұрын

@TheKamikazeMAR exactly! cossie to my left, veyron to my right...im looking at the cossie! sounds daft but i grew up with the cosworth as my dream car, im 30 now and still not owned one due to family commitments etc. but i will do!! oh yes i will :-)

@Shane-zx4ps 3 жыл бұрын

Did you ever buy a cosworth?,. It’s 10 years later now...

@CosworthCally 11 жыл бұрын

Everybody should drive a cossie at least once in their life.

@dlg78 14 жыл бұрын

My point about the floorplan is what foolhardy designer designs a car in 1990, sticks a floorplan from a 1983 Sierra in it (last time I looked Sierra's were never known for good handling) Have you ever driven a standard Escort Cosworth? Have a try in a few, you'd change your mind about your words. I used to rave about them as a kid, then a couple passed through my hands in adulthood and you wonder what all the fuss was about.

@purplegill10 12 жыл бұрын

OMG IT'S THE MERKUR GT FROM WHIPLASH/RACING :D

@dlg78 14 жыл бұрын

Noo, the Cosworth would have been in a different class to the M3 because it was forced in duction and prey to the 1.4 x capacity multiplier. The M3 was in the upto 2.5L class, the Sierra being 2.0 Turbo x 1.3 equates to 2.8 and over., but then that is still an unfair advantage as there was no limit on boost. In fact the Sierra was the largest capacity turbo car in use in BTCC.

@74aamer 3 жыл бұрын

I have two escorts one Sierra Cosworth

@marekwrx 13 жыл бұрын

@xmateuL2 Warp Brothers - We Will Survive

@bighands69 12 жыл бұрын

What you dont like Ford Mustang's. They are an iconic car that are beautiful and powerful all in one.

@kipstar81 12 жыл бұрын

Good luck with the career change! ...because you'll definatly need it! :) ....and PLEASE dont even mention the US Escort!!!! Those things are nothing short of shockingly bad to both look at, and apparently drive, aswell! I've always been a big fan of the European mk3 Escort and its RS versions! ...check the 2 i mentioned above out on Google images and just have a look a how much better our versions looked! :)

@matyfigure09 14 жыл бұрын

@thenightwalker99 Neh man, no matter if it's old, it's an awesome car... I'd kill to drive one.

@djnovax 15 жыл бұрын

it´s so true before 21st century , make better cars than now...

@eljaco88 16 жыл бұрын

i prefer the cossie anyday, my stepdad has one, tuned to 380hp,bit lighter and 0-60 in 4.3 secs. its black! but still has the dreadful interior, but it smells nice!

@dragythuno 13 жыл бұрын

What companies tend to do now is release big heavy cars that are slower than the cars they replaced, then release stripped out versions that are just as quick as the old versions, but for much more money. WTF. Escort cosworth. 25k. Absolute bargain!

@jasonjay7650 6 жыл бұрын

That horrendous blue steering wheel in the focus looks like something out of Halfords.

@PhilQc109 14 жыл бұрын

Nice driver and cars :)

@savagev8 15 жыл бұрын

Blimey, i expected the Cossie to win, but not by so much. Just goes to show how much slower new cars are, although they do seem to be picking up the pace with the new RS.

@guy4469 6 жыл бұрын

ive just bought a toyota prius are these fords the same as my prius dont know much about fords

@soundseeker63 7 жыл бұрын

Its odd when you think how crap the standard mk5 escort was, how they were able to make the Cosworth so awesome (ok its a sierra 4x4 underneath). By contrast the regular focus was superior to the regular escort in just about every area, yet the RS was a step backward on the cosworth in many ways. Only now in 2016 have they gone back to AWD and produced an true successor to the old cossie.

@theant9821 7 жыл бұрын

soundseeker63 their is still no true successor to the cosworths, without motorsport there can't be, that was the entire purpose of rallye sport fords

@soundseeker63 7 жыл бұрын

The ANT Well, do you know of any manufacturer who has done any rally homologation specials since the 90's? I can't thing of one. In any case, the escort cosworth was no closer to a real rally car that today's RS is, it had air-con, CD player, even leather seats if you wanted...

@theant9821 7 жыл бұрын

soundseeker63 group a cars were very closely related to their road going counterparts, hence for example the extra bits the rs500 had over the regular 3door cosworth. if the road cars didn't get it most often the competition car didn't either. at least the mk1 focus rs had the dignity in that it looked just like the wrc car and drove very well.

@reeisessit 7 жыл бұрын

I think the RS Mk1 has the most closely looking WRC look and the driving style. Cossie is an awesome car but that transmission that feel's like it came right out of an ford transit is just awful.

@theant9821 7 жыл бұрын

reeisessit can you not fit kits to improve that? when i fitted a type 9 gearbox into my old Chevette rally car i fitted a different lever with all metal bearings to the linkage and that felt great, better than it ever did in a 1.6 sierra I'm sure. I'd be surprised if there isn't something similar for the 4x4 cosworth box

@HoracePL 15 жыл бұрын

It is an Escort in the vid. But i personaly love the Sierra...

@lv2xlr8NOW 10 жыл бұрын

she's a catch if you like the smaller euro cars

@AdrianC12345 14 жыл бұрын

I'd have the Focus(it's from my era so that's why I think it looks better, older people may differ) with thicker front tires and take out the rear seats, then it would've won