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@falguard 2 ай бұрын
The public has turned their back on the film industry, plain and simple. That's why films are failing, the film industry is falling apart, and film festivals are irrelevant: The INDUSTRY cares about these things, but WE DON'T. They've been far, far too insular and out of touch for too damned long. I mean, when's the last time you saw a Sundance Festival film that you gave a damn about? Probably NEVER AGO. The public are what makes the machine go. Without our support, the machine breaks down. And you can't keep starting and stopping the whole works and expect things to go through, on top of that - the film industry has brought every one of these calamities down upon their own heads, and the only way out is to give the hoi palloi what they actually, really want. Not what the industry thinks they should want, not what THE INDUSTRY wants, not what the METRICS claim; what the public actually, really, factually desires: good storytelling, well-written stories, and well-written characters. Failing that, we want good, honest fun. We want action. We want drama. We want comedy. We want genre films; we want sci-fi, fantasy, western, film noir, the works. Big movies, small movies, medium movies. But most of all, what we desire, paramount above all is: sincerity. We want, in short, the variety, quality, and honesty(!?) that Hollywood has, fairly recently in the broad scheme of things, elected to stop giving us. That's not code. That's not a cipher. It's not a dog whistle; it is straight up, by definition, in exact terms, what the public desires from film. I'm not optimistic about them getting OUR message, because they're too busy shouting THEIR'S.
@marshalmcdonald7476 2 ай бұрын
Bravo.
@3-2bravo49 2 ай бұрын
I crave something with HEART! If you don't know what I mean, then you probably work for Hollywood lol. I am sure you guys understand though.
@All-Fur-Coat_No-Trousers 2 ай бұрын
Righteous comment, well said
@3211SD 2 ай бұрын
Well that's not the indi film scene or small independent studios, you are describing the corporate studio world . Independent films are about passion projects and exploring concepts by directors and writers and producers. The indi film world should be thriving if the major studios are soulless and it's not. Other things are going on also . The consumer bad experience with big studio film and the domination of their marketing carries over and taints all film and the cinematic experience. The few good movies that get made find it difficult to break through the marketing noise and get to the public , if the dont hear about it they dont see them in the cinema so dont make money to make more films . There always a few big successes ever year . The importance of film festivals is that they are one of the few opportunities available to get promotion for independent film , it's a shame that KZfaqrs dont spend time reviewing unknown film . Movie critic KZfaqrs stick to talking about already know films and TV shows because they are in it to make money not shine a light on good films and they prefer to highlight the bad and negativity as that is what sell to their audiences the best . The most negative film and TV show reviews and discussions get the most views by far , so much so that the personalities are rubbing their hands together with glee at the prospect of a new shit woke film that will bomb to put on their channels because it makes them more money. All contribute to the bad taste and negativity and perception around film that is driving the public away from cinema. But it's not just that and what you have said , the public want cinema theatre quality level films to watch on big screen home TV but they dont want to go to the cinema to see them which the film needs to be able to make enough money to make the film . They want other people to go to see the film in theatre they dont turn out unless it's an event film . In the past the time gap between film in cinema then to video rental, then to shop was long enough that it persuaded many people to go see a film in theatre, and now that basically doesn't exist. There are many many other factors too but the main one is the public has lost faith in having a good experience with movies
@FarginBastiges 2 ай бұрын
The solution is for the industry to now insult and denigrate the other half of their paying customers. Then they'll all come running back money in hand, right? RIGHT?
@Fenrir72 2 ай бұрын
Yup! And they antagonized 50% of the market!😡
@jodanger37 2 ай бұрын
More than 50
@c1ph3rpunk 2 ай бұрын
75%, minimum, might even be closer to 90%. If they still had half of their revenue they’d not be here, this is more like 80-90%.
@lawrencetalbot8346 2 ай бұрын
And in the end, they are still blaming the audience indirectly for the death of their industry. Which is why the everyday person doesn’t care that the industry is in massive decline.
@Dezzasheep 2 ай бұрын
I miss when movies grabbed your soul, rather than merely annoy. I've forgotten the last time I left the theatre and said "wow". Maybe I'm just old...
@fredEVOIX 2 ай бұрын
no you're not my last time was fellowship of the ring...not recent and I wasn't even woawed more like "I got my money and time's worth"
@a.morrigan5870 2 ай бұрын
No, you're just normal now. Weirdly political lectures do not make great entertainment.
@Dezzasheep 2 ай бұрын
@@fredEVOIX probably the same.... I beg for another matrix moment, a genuine wtf jaw dropper.
@JERSEYBOYPLAY2HARD 2 ай бұрын
@@fredEVOIX that's because you're not looking all the movies that comes out.
@TorontoSaurusEx 2 ай бұрын
Old enough to remember.
@TorontoSaurusEx 2 ай бұрын
As a film tech, I can say that it was always gig work for most of us below-the-line workers. Only those with show calls (from beginning to end of production) could have some sense of security, but even that is not firmly guaranteed. For the rest of us it's on a day to day, or a week to week basis of employment, therefore it's truly a GIG. You learn this truth from the first day in film and tv production. This latest development is actually a correction for all the stupidity that has taken place since 2015, nearing a decade of sheer incompetence and shortsightedness of the industry in general. Hollywood needs an enema.💩💦
@slicedtopieces 2 ай бұрын
Even for the very people you see on screen it's gig work. Only for the small executive/creative core might it be more than short contracts.
@storygroove 2 ай бұрын
It wasn't called "gig work", it was just freelance. When you were on a show you were always, looking for the next one.
@RazSkull673 2 ай бұрын
When you socialize and Maoize ART you get DEI check the box CRAP!!!
@knuyorkr 2 ай бұрын
When your job is to make burgers and sandwiches, and you provide customers with dry bread, don't be shocked when customers don't return to buy from you!!
@williamdistefano5698 2 ай бұрын
Growing up in the 70s onward, film was absolute king, and TV was it's queen. Shared experiences in the cinema were everywhere. That's not a thing I see as much anymore. Sometimes, it crops up a little, but nowhere near like it was back then.
@NoahGooder 2 ай бұрын
better yet back then you had people who would camp outside theatures to catch the latest blockbuster.
@mabusestestament 2 ай бұрын
Social media and videogames.
@StardustX24 2 ай бұрын
7 months I have t been employed because of the stupid strikes. Fuck Hollywood. 20 year career down the drain.
@FarginBastiges 2 ай бұрын
What was it we were told when our industry was facing this? [...remembering...] Oh yes, "Learn to code."
@loboneiner1034 2 ай бұрын
Everything is collapsing. It's all by design too. You can see the signs of self sabotage in every industry.
@viewtifuljoe66 2 ай бұрын
dei money is hell of a drug, in fact its new crack cocain!!!!!!!!!!!
@fredEVOIX 2 ай бұрын
yes it's the marxist agenda destroy culture and replace it by politics, in other countries it's destroy culture and replace it by religion but it's the same overall goal control populations
@StickySyrupEverywhere 2 ай бұрын
I think that because of bubble dwelling with high-profile people that they thought their ploy and plot would go over no problem and "transform" society with forced behavior. They thought that THEY were the vast majority. And instead, we are preparing for W A R!
@NoahGooder 2 ай бұрын
its because everything needs to be "deconstructed" or whatever they are calling it now while also be made for a "modern audience" or it needs to "reflect the world we live in"
@LoneWolf-rc4go 2 ай бұрын
I honestly don't think it's by design but more by stupidity. The talentless hacks and the people who value ideology above profit have run the skill and talent out of the industry. Now the chickens are coming home to roost and the industry is being found out.
@swamisalami3000 2 ай бұрын
Because they make movies that suck. If they would actually up their game people would flock to cinema. Plus it used to be that a theater would many types of movies. Big, middle and small movies. Now they seperated them so you have small theaters which show mostly small movies and then the multiplexes.
@mxvega1097 2 ай бұрын
There's an excellent clip up yesterday from Warren Smith on the Hollywood implosion under way - driven by cost structure following the strike settlements. It's like a corporate restructuring where management kept their own jobs, and outsourced everything else to piecework contracts. Rates, minimum time/hire terms, team sizes, team composition, have all rendered the old model obsolete. But it's not adjusting to the new production, distribution and viewing markets. It's a set of shackles built to maintain reality circa 2019. Imagine... it's1905,and the horse and buggy industry saw the rise of the automobile and responded with union and regulatory measures to establish standard coach sizes, every driver would have to have two whips and a spare, teams would have to have 5 horses no less than one to be a Clydesdale and one a palomino, and an accompanying coach of navigators, hay providers, leather repair specialists, first aid and laudanum assistants, manure baggers and wheelwrights. Minimum teams, right? What happens? Germany makes excellent cars and sells them by the boatload. KZfaq is Germany in this story.
@3-2bravo49 2 ай бұрын
Not only was that a fantastic analogy, your knowledge on buggies is impressive lol. Well done overall. I know you can't hear it, but I am giving you a complimentary golf clap. Seriously, I actually put down my tablet to golf clap lol.
@colorin81colorado 2 ай бұрын
It is interesting after learning the catering budgets for SheHulk and other Disney productions... The catering could afford many jobs but no, Hollywood has done it to itself!
@TorontoSaurusEx 2 ай бұрын
That is where The Teamsters got their name.They still call the shots in Hollywood so if they strike the entire film industry shuts down.
@GeoffreyEwart 2 ай бұрын
Was film EVER more than a gig for 95% of those involved? Maybe if you were lucky enough to be in a "regular" crew with a popular lead (director, actor, whatever) or were on an old school network TV run. Other than that it's always been under the starving artist heading.
@portalplayer 2 ай бұрын
i agree totally. i always though, film work has always been gig based. I think it's smarter to get on a TV show if u want longer term employment but that is also unstable now since TV shows are much shorter season. shorter seasons mean less work.
@fredEVOIX 2 ай бұрын
@@portalplayer totally unstable you mean they don't take account the explosion of competitor content in their ratings goals, and if something manages to be a hit they immediately kill it because they don't want to pay actors the real price for the next seasons so they spin it into trash nobody cares about, add to that "the message" and them litteraly saying "don't watch our shows"
@jondmt 2 ай бұрын
It’s been a gig economy for the vast majority of the industry for absolutely ages
@pigknickers2975 Ай бұрын
As a musician / highly technical sound engineer and producer, it's been this way for me for 20 years. If a film comes, I do it. Otherwise I do something else. Luckily I have a computer business too.
@MJKeenan30 2 ай бұрын
Sounds like a good start. Skid row has plenty of room for all of these people.
@zirconiumdiamond1416 2 ай бұрын
Being outside the industry, my know nothing take is that the way that the unions and studios negotiated was nonsensical. Why demand 5 writers in the writing room for 12 weeks instead of 2 writers with near year-round employment? Why insist on paying writers by the week and then accepting paying them $10k/week to compensate for the fact that there aren't great job opportunities out there to fill the rest of the time? That doesn't do anyone any good. Why isn't the industry structured such that 2 writers work 40 weeks a year on a show to earn a minimum of $150K / year? It is cheaper for the studios. The writers who have jobs get paid more. There are fewer "cooks" in the kitchen so there is a more unified artistic vision, yet there is actually more time to get scripts done. Writers still have a good amount of time to work on lining up the next job. There are fewer writing jobs in this system, but not as bad as it seems because nobody is writing on multiple shows in a year. And the current setup isn't exactly serving the folks at the bottom of the career ladder anyway.
@malmstring 2 ай бұрын
Yes but consider the motivation for a union. They serve all union members. They rather more members are served by the solution than less. Even though solution hurts industry. It's not uncommon unions hamper or destroy the industry they're in because they only benefit their members. What sounds like ok solution in a vacuum doesn't always work in real life. This is all self inflicted.
@shteebo 2 ай бұрын
The whole idea of responding to the threat of jobs lost to automation by striking is absurd. It's hard to feel sorry for anyone in the entertainment industry. It was all predictable. They've done it to themselves.
@mikeadams8027 2 ай бұрын
I teach in Tennessee. They say we have union but it is not really a union. All they can do is ask for raises or benefits and if the school system or state says no, nothing can be done. It is illegal for teachers to strike in TN. They can also supposedly help with tenure issues. My wife got tenure then when superintendents changed they UNTENURED (illegally changed paperwork) several who got it under him. My wife went through TEA, which she had been paying membership to. She got another job and worked there long enough to get tenure at that system before they even talked to her about it.
@lawrencetalbot8346 2 ай бұрын
Because the vast majority of the people supporting this had absolutely no idea how to think long term or how business works. All the bottom tier people, the writers actors etc who went on strike just magically assumed if they’d demanded more money and all the ridiculous diversity requirements, then every single person would just magically have a job and make tons of money. Clearly they didn’t realize there are finite budgets that a studio is willing to advocate for x expense. So if you now have to pay the writers twice their salary, well now you need to hire half the workers to meet that budget. Likewise if you’re going to enforce all these DEI hiring requirements, the easiest thing to do is to just stop making projects so you don’t have to bend over backwards trying to hire every member of the DEI rainbow less you violate the stupid new rule.
@ronthecon9772 2 ай бұрын
@@malmstring Yes Union's often hamper modern day business and they just move out of country to compete.... Soon Studio's will do the same and AI will be the Norm with a few writers proof reading scripts and creating idea's. The union members have no one to blame but themselves in the end.
@blue.5058 2 ай бұрын
I work in what’s left of the film business here in L.A. (25+ years in pyrotechnic and mechanical FX). To call what is going on a “gig economy” is a massive understatement- the business as a whole has completely cratered with no clear indication when and if it will ever return. Even worse is the plain fact a great number of those who work below-the-line positions still refuse to acknowledge that anything is wrong (“The business is gonna bust wide open! Trust me!”), but the corrupt union leaders who profess to being the ones who will fix this mess continue to shuffle their feet in complete incompetence (all while continuing to charge the $1000+ a year in dues) including not stepping in during the whole “new media” explosion of the early 2000s. It is -quite simply- a joke with no punchline out there.
@shadowshow701 2 ай бұрын
I always wondered if that whole strike was some kind of trap - a pincer move by the studio heads working with unions against the workers . It feels like those at the top are now actively engaged in just trying to torch the whole industry. Like Kamikaze pilots or something.
@gameoverinsertcointocontin8102 2 ай бұрын
It means more diversity hires who would do anything to spread their message. Even flipping burgers on the side to pay their bills. While people with talent who can actually produce quality will leave for stable careers.
@jonnyu2 2 ай бұрын
You read the article if you want to correct him. So annoying
@Bloodsport1 2 ай бұрын
People with talented Only , not just whites
@jpgabobo 2 ай бұрын
Someone needs to study Burnett's reading style (cough,cough). That aside, film festivals have always been a spectrum from boring to pretentious. In the late 1980's a young filmmaker had a shot making music videos, etc. It was ALWAYS a gig, unless you landed a job at a big studio like Disney. Even then, you could be kicked to the curb - 'you'll never work in this town again' a real threat to a persons career. BTW Chris, a perfect Thursday back in 'the day' at the Fairfax newsstand, LA Weekly, Spy magazine, Cinefex & film threat, Great times to be a film maker!
@joshuaprets2044 2 ай бұрын
In this episode, Chris and Allen learn to read!
@k2sworld 2 ай бұрын
...except, they don't. That's the twist.
@VirideSoryuLangley Ай бұрын
That made me laugh harder than it should have.
@BeckerFlag 2 ай бұрын
When has Hollywood ever not been a gig based world? Unless your on a multi season TV show then its always going to be this way. You don't go to Hollywood for 9 to 5 with 3 weeks of vacation every year and a standard pension.
@DyenamicFilms 2 ай бұрын
I was just going to say. Film crew work was always film to film. In between, you're unemployed until you (hopefully) land the next one.
@hamiltoncox7651 2 ай бұрын
Yes. You said it for me. Unless you work at a supplier (costume house, prop house, etc) or get a gig on a long running series, you go from job to job like a carny worker. It has always been a gig job and a tough one at that. Not many people want to spend fourteen to sixteen hours a day away from their families.
@darius8652 2 ай бұрын
GET WOKE GO BROKE. IT THE BROKE PHASE.
@JERSEYBOYPLAY2HARD 2 ай бұрын
what's woke?
@darius8652 2 ай бұрын
@@JERSEYBOYPLAY2HARD social part in ESG. DEI AND critical race theory. creative storyteller being handicap by checklist.
@swervbe 2 ай бұрын
I had always assumed the majority of movie related jobs were gig work. They go from movie to movie, working for different producers, different studios. Who is supposed to pay them a retainer? Maybe directors have regular crew members, do they pay a regular salary to them during downtime?
@shirleydanby4123 2 ай бұрын
Ask yourself this. How many kids are saying they want to be " movie stars" "actors" or just celebrities? None that I know of. Think about that 🤔 They're losing their significance and status in society. So the end begins.
@MrJustinOtis 2 ай бұрын
Kids watch KZfaq and tiktok now, and want to be influencers.
@skeletonrebellion 2 ай бұрын
"People have forgotten how to tell a story." ~ Steven Spielberg
@samuel5591 2 ай бұрын
It failed when they started considering the public to be consumers instead of customers. Consumers just accept whatever is put in front of them. Customers pay for stuff they like. Maybe when they start making things that their CUSTOMERS want, we'll start giving them money again. It's a crazy plan, but it might just work.
@Jonas-lj8ul 2 ай бұрын
It's a million-to-one shot....
@shadowshow701 2 ай бұрын
You are so, so right!
@sharksbreath7 2 ай бұрын
Maybe they shouldn't alienate half the audience off the top because they don't vote the "right" way.
@leonreaper90 2 ай бұрын
Gatekeeping & Creative Accounting didn't help the industry. Distributors messing with filmmakers too, it all comes back around.
@andreacamp936 2 ай бұрын
It's become like this in almost all industries, unfortunately. :(
@colossusforbin5484 2 ай бұрын
I suggest linking the article (as I know you have), give the "gist" of the article, then simply start commenting on it. I don't think anyone wants to watch a video of someone reading an article, even if the reader is NOT stumbling through it. I can just go read it myself faster. Just give your thoughts on the article. Just a suggestion.
@ach2lieber 2 ай бұрын
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotlight Mind is a brilliant movie. Hollywood is no longer capable of making films of that quality.
@mmaneage86 2 ай бұрын
That would most likely be a movie they would send direct to streaming now. And of course, a 2020s version of that film would be butchered.
@McDLT999999999999999 2 ай бұрын
If that movie was made today it would have a mixed race couple and a trans friend to meet the DEI quota.
@VorpalSnak 2 ай бұрын
Here is to a speedy recovery for Chris Gore! Get Well Soon! We'll miss you!
@Sunflower8587 2 ай бұрын
I live in upstate NY. Only $318k per year? I WISH! Must be nice to make that. If I told you how much I make, you'd think I was living in poverty. It's only 5 digits. I'll tell you that. They're going to have to do what the rest of us do. Don't live in the city where you work & commute. I can't afford to live in the city I work in. I live about an hour away. It's cheaper to pay for gas than to live in the city. It used to cost 2-3x more to live there. Now it's 3-4x more. Even everything where I live is going up and my salary isn't, so things are getting tight. So welcome to our world. I feel bad that their jobs are becoming gigs. But the movie industry leaders keep pushing the badly written Woke crap no one wants. And they make everything CGI when practical effects with enough CGI to help tell the story is all that's necessary. If the CGI is the only thing you see and the viewer becomes lost in that instead of the story, you failed. Less is more. And they'd save money. Also, you get what you pay for. AI will never understand the human experience. So if they are cheating & using AI to write, that shows. And then there have been all these strikes for more pay, etc., when we're already living in a bad economy. Be glad you have a job when in a bad economy & learn to be more frugal in your purchases. You don't have to have the most expensive or popular anything. You don't need to buy a new car every year or have the latest iPhone. Keep the car, phone, laptop, etc. you have as long as possible. It will still work. I promise. And because the economy is bad, most people are going to reduce their spending on entertainment...especially bad entertainment. 🤷♀️ I purged some of my streaming services and thinking I need to do that again....out of necessity. They are just finding out what the rest of us have been dealing with outside the TV and movie industry bubble. Welcome to the real world where the rest of us live. Maybe now they'll get it. 🤷♀️
@ronthecon9772 2 ай бұрын
They won't they are made up of people who have a psychological trait to me self centered.
@joelrolston8736 2 ай бұрын
I received a four-year degree in Film and Broadcasting ten years ago. I learned then that no one was hiring a "kid" for entry-level positions on sets unless he was related to some executive. If they don't know your name, they don't care. Biggest waste of student loans ever.
@colorin81colorado 2 ай бұрын
It is interesting after learning the catering budgets for SheHulk and other Disney productions... The catering could afford many jobs but no, Hollywood has done it to itself!
@kevinintheusa8984 2 ай бұрын
It will get worse as folks age out and the newer generation comes up because almost none of my son's college friends watch TV or movies at all. They love video games and anime only and most only have a TV so they can watch anime but none of them watch any regular TV and they NEVER go to movies. Good luck bringing back Hollyweird with that group of customers.
@GlennGraham 2 ай бұрын
I am with Alan. When I read something for the first time, I have trouble reading it out loud. I think it's because I am reading, talking, and thinking-thinking about the material and what it means to me.
@TwoTonePictures 2 ай бұрын
So… basically how I’ve been living in the industry for the past 25 years? Cool. Welcome to my world, Hollywood folks 😂
@lifegood3322 2 ай бұрын
Damn Chris! I'd hate to see where you'd be without Alan's guidance! 😂 Seriously! Love you guys! Keep up the good fight for the betterment of all cinema and yes mankind!
@ChrisPeteG 2 ай бұрын
Japanese films and anime Korean films and shows "Alternatives" like Angel Studios and yes, even Daily Wire As Hollywood fractures, these alternatives will rise and break off their own pieces of the audience.
@JERSEYBOYPLAY2HARD 2 ай бұрын
You said daily wire and your whole point went out the window.
@ronthecon9772 2 ай бұрын
@@JERSEYBOYPLAY2HARD Why? If they produce good content that people want to watch then his point is valid. Your post show's your bias and agenda.
@kilomike5788 2 ай бұрын
@@JERSEYBOYPLAY2HARD they are producing content, so why leave them out?
@3211SD 2 ай бұрын
Why doesn't the guy in green read the article. Listening to him interrupt in that irritated manner to correct a word multiple times reminds me of a parent or school teacher, one of the most annoying things i have listen to on a podcast . Just do it yourself dude
@MrSheymie 2 ай бұрын
I stopped watching contemporary movies many years ago. Too much anti-male, anti-straight, anti-traditional, anti-christian, anti-western, anti-majority BS. A tiny minority of 'elites' and strange people are trying to grab control of everything by vilifying the majority. The problem for the people who control the entertainments industry is that the majority of people are great people. That's why the film industry is collapsing. People are just rejecting the lies and hate. I hope the people who run the industry double down even harder. It will wake up even more good people. Hard for ordinary people who work in the industry though. That isn't a good thing. Maybe it can create new opportunities for them to move in new directions.
@fredEVOIX 2 ай бұрын
yep I went back to 90s and 80s and thanks to B-movie channels like so bad it's good or brandon tenold I'm watchin direct-to-vhs or dvd movies that are actually better than big money productions of today..even with 100k budget they wanted and tried to make a movie now they don't even attempt as long as their propaganda is in and they can grift their money doing nothing it's enough
@OhSayWhatIsTruth 2 ай бұрын
How many years ago is "many"? The woke stuff didn't really take off until 5-10 years ago, at least for large films.
@soulmask2781 2 ай бұрын
If it wasnt for Dune 2, cinema would be in a cataclysmic state right now. But one movie is not enough to sustain Hollywood.
@portalplayer 2 ай бұрын
i always thought the only full time employment was in TV shows where they keep the workers on longer. with movies, it's always been a gig work. you work on a film, once it's over, the job is done. Even with TV the work is much shorter term now since the episodes per season are shorter.
@johnbarcus4042 2 ай бұрын
If Chris can not read the article why is able to read it to correct the reader.
@daviddesrosiers1946 2 ай бұрын
The dolt believes the 303K number isn't a total gaslight. So, in his mind, everyone else is doing just fantastic while his industry is being punished somehow. Unreal.
@alphacause 2 ай бұрын
What is happening to the film industry is simply a harbinger of things to come for most industries in our economy. Permanent, full time employment with benefits will become an endangered category, and only a rarified group will have this luxury.
@christopheryoung2874 2 ай бұрын
this is true. Why do we need millions of immigrants coming here if the jobs are going away?
@alphacause 2 ай бұрын
@@christopheryoung2874 The allowance of these influx of immigrants has two causes. It will give one political party an advantage in electoral politics, as they have portrayed themselves as the party of immigrants. The second reason is that immigrants, being far more desperate, will not fight this trend towards more temporary work, nor do they have any leverage to bargain for better pay. Hence, it benefits business owners.
@jeffzimmer2433 2 ай бұрын
I have to agree with some of the other commenters: this was painful to listen to. It was almost entirely reading an article verbatim.
@twcc406 2 ай бұрын
Chris, take it easy and get well soon.
@michaelbell6894 2 ай бұрын
Is the current state of show business a direct consequence of the strikes last year, or was this going to happen anyway?
@RevanR 2 ай бұрын
With constantly demoralizing show business this bounds to happened, Bidenomic and the strikes just accelerated it
@lorij3786 2 ай бұрын
This has been happening for at least 20 years slowly, ramped in the last10, they obeyed B.lackrock/W.ef, the elites did this to themselves and we the peasants are tired of taking care of them
@dakotagreg1177 2 ай бұрын
In antiquity, actors were a class just above slaves.
@MrJustinOtis 2 ай бұрын
And that was universal across cultures, including ancient Greece, Rome, China, and Japan. Really makes you think.
@sailaway30 2 ай бұрын
Honestly, I just don’t care about Hollywood anymore. They have done this to themselves. If they just completely go away, I wouldn’t care at all
@DerpyPepe4803 2 ай бұрын
If you're making a living working on movies/shows, that's a career. If you can't make a living working on movies/shows, that's a gig. A gig is one small step away from a hobby. There's no point in working for free.
@AnaFolkenstal 2 ай бұрын
I just recently found out that film festival don't even pay the producers of the movies they show there. Film festival basically promote the movies, but the producers and actors have to pay out of their own pockets to even get there. Literally EXPOSURE POINTS is all they get from it.
@juddgoswick2024 2 ай бұрын
The "Reading With Alan" pilot was not approved. 😜
@24framedavinci39 2 ай бұрын
Like watching two grandpas trying to figure out technology. Grumpy Old Men 3 in production.
@DeflatingAtheism 2 ай бұрын
Ted Hope is tossing out Leonard Cohen references like banana peels on Moonview Highway.
@michelleyoung731 2 ай бұрын
These movie people seem unable to understand that nobody really needs movies anymore. They are not entitled to our support or our interest. Shoddy products lead to customer dissatisfaction and then apathy sets in. They can whine all day and all night but this is the fact and it's up to the movie industry to heal itself.
@Kintabl 2 ай бұрын
go woke go broke
@ArwenUndomiel406 2 ай бұрын
There's no hope for Hollywood movies now. Game over. Fuck.
@joen8529 2 ай бұрын
What are you talking about, with the fall of superhero movies, we are at the dawn of a new renaissance.
@Nonamearisto 2 ай бұрын
There's hope, but only after Hollywood is forced to cut the trash out. Most studios- Disney being the exception- are cutting woke trash left and right, even if some still gets through on Netflix, Apple, and sometimes Amazon.
@joen8529 2 ай бұрын
@@Nonamearisto 👆💯💯
@ArwenUndomiel406 2 ай бұрын
@@joen8529 yeah, tell that to She-Hulk, The Marvels, Madame Web, etc.
@phattjohnson 2 ай бұрын
@@joen8529 THIS. It ain't so bad
@NealWiser 2 ай бұрын
Since when has production not been a gig job? That hasn’t and won’t change. What has changed are the budgets and the scale of the job cuts for full time staff at studios, production companies, and support services. But then again, that’s also happening in every industry.
@MiaogisTeas 2 ай бұрын
When has working in film and TV ever NOT been a gig economy?? I've worked as crew and cast and you're NEVER certain about when/where your next job will be.
@-yeme- 2 ай бұрын
you see a similar thing whenever an industry goes through contraction; there are too many people who consider it "their job" for the number of roles available. sooner or later some will move on to other things, and it will settle out to a stable situation of there being roughly enough people to do the work available, its literally just supply and demand in action.
@3-2bravo49 2 ай бұрын
The little oldschool batman theme at the beginning was a nice touch
@Mulletmanalive 2 ай бұрын
I went to a film festival once; it was mostly ugly films I didn’t enjoy and lectures from the tossers who made them. Not a big one, so I imagine it might be different elsewhere, but the sort of people running them in the Liverpool scene seem to love misery (kinda fits with the whole “northern drama” crap I suppose).
@Gryphonette 2 ай бұрын
Re: film festivals….I wonder if genre-specific festivals might be more successful? Rom-com, horror, sci-fi, etc.
@timwhite5562 2 ай бұрын
I love Alan, but Chris needs to do the readings. You can tell he doesn't read aloud often.
@Rosefire 2 ай бұрын
Fast food workers are making products that people actually buy.
@Robo-Hector 2 ай бұрын
Honestly, I go to the film festivals here in Oklahoma and I spend more time at the bar chatting with friends than actually watching the films. Most are either boring documentaries about some female native American baseball team or another generic story about some gay European that just came out the closet. You get maybe one or two good ones and the rest either don't make any sense or are basically the writers way of avoiding actual therapy
@napturaladvice7646 2 ай бұрын
I wish the last article broke down the finances of a film festival and not just in broad strokes. Also the same about the business of indie films. Specifics would have been better.
@booboobumbum6602 2 ай бұрын
Its awlays been a gig economy - its just the gigs aren't so frequent, because movies are more expensive - gone are those $10 million movies that used to be speinkled throughout the year...
@RaoulEnoiu 2 ай бұрын
I’m by no means an expert but the film festival thing saddens me. They don’t seem relevant at all. They don’t get anyone excited because it’s prohibitive to attend or watch. Most people use them to get some exposure but unless you know someone or there’s some weight behind it I’ve heard not many get discovered that way anyway. If it’s not serving as exposure, getting new creatives excited about making films, or a way to get in then what’s the relevance?
@thunderstruck5484 2 ай бұрын
I think the elephant in the room is the internet, it has changed everything regarding entertainment especially with younger people who have only known life with internet, too many choices at their fingertips and now in their pockets with phones, I believe pro sports will feel it soon also as this generation grows up and doesn’t go to or watch sports, just my opinion, thanks
@mikeadams8027 2 ай бұрын
I have an idea that would help. Why not add a few more union reps or union positions? That always works. Just like in the auto industry, they needed a union because they were overworked and underpaid then it got to over $75 an hour with shorter weeks and less work and prices having to be raised on vehicles. to pay them. I am not an economist but I know that if expenses go up someone has to pay (see the $20 per hour minimum wage, if wages go up you either have to cut profits (which is why businesses are open in the first place), raise prices, or lay off workers and cut hours). Isn't the movie industry the same? If you make woke unwatchable movies and nobody goes to see them, what do you think will happen? We, the public, tried to tell them but they said getting the messages out was more important than making movies and shows people want to see.
@bettamomma148 2 ай бұрын
Get better soon Chris, you are loved ❤
@rivenmotors7981 2 ай бұрын
Everything needs a reboot and I'm not talking about remaking fantastic older films.
@TreeRockCreations 2 ай бұрын
At one time, I wanted to work for one of the Hollywood studios, but that time passed twenty years ago. Writers want to see their work on the screen, but not depraved beyond recognition from DEI and Blackrock rules and regulations.
@AndrewSnarls 2 ай бұрын
The thing is, I always thought the film industry worked this way, as a gig industry. As an artist (I've never worked in the film industry) I've worked many freelance jobs, gig work, temp jobs... It's sometimes scary not knowing when you'll get your next job, but it's the way of life a lot of creatives live.
@floxy20 2 ай бұрын
I am a non film goer for a reason. Omitting the over use of CGI, super hero saturation, girl boss nonsense, and endless franchise remakes I find that properly scripted movies are deliberately "over the top" in all their elements. I suppose this sensationalism is done to distinguish the production from competition but excludes movie goers who merely want a well acted plausible story.
@OhSayWhatIsTruth 2 ай бұрын
There's quite a number of original non-super hero films without CGI out there these days. They just haven't been good. Your objections seem to be largely a "you" thing.
@user-sw9bo1hv9z 2 ай бұрын
I read the whole article & it makes interesting points, but what I get out of it is that inflation in the creative meccas of the US have made working for the industry impossible for regular people. Consider: The major film companies & execs were similarly stagnate during the late 60's & late 80's--they wanted nothing but cheap franchises and total control of profit. So how were Coppola, Scorsese, Di Palma, & Hopper able to bring about the 70's revolution? And again, how were the indie directors of the 90's able to rise? They were able to survive in California and New York with sub par wages as video rental clerks and waiters in restaurants while they hustled their way into the business. What this article points out: The studios are still doing what they always do...but the creatives can't make living wages unless they are trust funded in. And all they can think to do is point their fingers at the studios. Their socialist policies (and voting) have made their working class situation unlivable.
@user-sw9bo1hv9z 2 ай бұрын
Oh, yeah, and the progressive messaging of their artistic output has no mass appeal. Yep, turns out when you vote in inflation, then try to make entertainment that caters to 1.5% of the population, you won't be able to make unless mom and dad are already rich & connected.
@JS-eu1co 2 ай бұрын
Film Festival should just go online , like Sundance did( I only brought a online ticket to the Shorts online).
@MythwrightWorkshop 2 ай бұрын
Very true. I know I would rather produce on my own book, movie, or game, than EVER read/watch/play someone else's--especially considering the crap being flooded by the corporate gatekeepers.
@axebox 2 ай бұрын
They did the same thing to the music industry... Now look at the frequency, quality and profits in that industry.... And they still haven't righted that ship. Do we expect anything less from another entertainment industry?
@pigknickers2975 Ай бұрын
I fled from the music business around 2000 to work in the film business. - you are right. It's over basically.
@RM_VFX 2 ай бұрын
Movies have always been a gig economy. That's how project based jobs work.
@ScaryStoriesNYC 2 ай бұрын
Yeah they just came out with an AI app that replaces dancers in your videos. You can put any face you want on your dancers now and have them do any move you can create a text prompt for LOL
@gridley 2 ай бұрын
Since a lot of major movies & TV/streaming shows nowadays have UK/London connections, I was surprised to read a recent article that described employment in the British entertainment industry is facing contraction too. As for NYC? Because that's always been a expensive, difficult place to do things, less surprising. As for LA/SoCal, it's a blend of both the best & worse of the UK & NYC. As for Toronto, Atlanta, Vancouver, etc? Since runaway production has been affecting LA's most well-known industry for over 30-40 years, LA is to movies/TV what automobiles are to Detroit, MI or steel is to Pittsburg, PA, etc. All of this is set against the backdrop of the culture & politics of North America & Western Europe, which affects entertainment, becoming more & more dogmatic. Good times!
@BrainFrogg 2 ай бұрын
Get better soon Chris💪
@120chester 2 ай бұрын
I love this channel, and this is an important topic… but can you pleeeeease prepare yourselves next time! It became painful listening to the mistakes in reading.
@MrHalo087 2 ай бұрын
Who cares about modern day Hollywood. We have plenty of classics to keep entertained.
@ViperChief117 2 ай бұрын
Which is one of the many reasons why they are suffering. Since there’s no room for creativity anymore.
@MmntechCa 2 ай бұрын
Our local film festival just announced they were throwing in the towel. I know a few people who work in the industry. Haven't heard from them in a while, but one guy who was working as a grip and was trying to get into the cinematography union, I saw he applied for a producer job at one of our community TV stations. Which sounds fancy, but it's really a catchall term since you basically manage a pool of volunteers and have to do every production role. They don't get paid that much for the hours they put in. So yeah, it's bad. Of course if the industry doesn't want to make the types of films the public watches, what do you expect? The unions also overstepped their bounds and screwed a lot of below-the-line people over in the process. AI is really just the cherry on the turd sundae. The collapse was happening long before it came into the picture. Even when I started my TV and journalism career over a decade ago, jobs were slim pickings and it was a lot of gig work. Even now, I'll put up a posting for an MCO, and we'll get flooded with applications, a lot of which come from overseas. Was a time when nobody wanted to do master control.
@RMartian76 Ай бұрын
Ticket sales in the US/Canada peaked in 2004. Yes, 20 years ago. Movies have been in a slow death ever since. The rise of the Chinese/Global market helped for a little while. Movies will be like plays with a niche audience that will always enjoy them but it is far from the dominant form of entertainment. Video games blew past them in late 90s, early 00s.
@LtCdrRoyFokker 2 ай бұрын
I can't help but think that if they had kept trying to entertain full time it would have helped. Entertaining the audience became a part time focus. I know that Chris and Alan have lots of friends in the industry (even post cancellation!) but it's hard for me to generate much sympathy for the supposedly creative people responsible in large part for the collapse. I tend to reserve my sympathy for the crew who had nothing to do with the change to an anti-fan tone in the medium who are also suffering.
@Pooter-it4yg 2 ай бұрын
Welcome to the real world - come on in, the water's cold. Most jobs in creative fields have always been gigs - clue's in the name - but there have been times in the past when there were lots of gigs, and reasonably well paid. Even then we've taken work on the side when we needed to and we didn't regard it as beneath us. Couldn't afford to, but we didn't think that way anyway because the price of interesting work was uncertainty. These pampered brats can't cope with the fact that their unsustainable double header of security and creativity has finally come to an end. So they'll have to cut their cloth like everyone else - boo hoo.
@FPM811 2 ай бұрын
(In the indie business.) I see most indie films are vanity projects. Few really make money much less their original investment back. They need to first figure out how and where (theater/streaming) they are going to get their money back before attempting to make a film.
@marcogenovesi8570 2 ай бұрын
Wow, what always should have been gig work is now gig work again after the free money dried up
@CosmicMage 2 ай бұрын
I think we need a fundamental shift in the way we look at taking care of the basics and pursuing our dreams or that which we find true fulfillment in. For far too long the dichotomy in the West has been, "choose this 8 hour a day 9 to 5 thing you don't want to do to take care of yourself and your family or choose going after your dreams and most likely crash and burn." These are bad choices for most people and do not lead to a fulfilling life. My advice to everyone is to pursue, doggedly, a ratio of things you have to do versus things you want to do. Carve your own path. Don't settle for jobs that take up more of your time and energy than you want to give. You may have to take something that doesn't meet that perfect ratio, but that doesn't mean you have to quit looking, requesting, and nudging. Don't give up on your dreams.
@warmspell7562 2 ай бұрын
That was hard to listen to.
@GregsGameRoom 2 ай бұрын
Hasn’t production crew always used the gig model?
@johndurham6172 2 ай бұрын
Objectively optimistic.
@TheWolfBunny64 2 ай бұрын
Good. Now it's time for people to move to Japanese content. Aside from all the anime and manga you could get into, there's live-action tokusatsu shows (i.e. Ultraman, Kamen Rider, Super Sentai), J-dramas, all those crazy and bizarre game shows you might've seen clips off on KZfaq, and comedic variety shows. Just you wait until Japan dominates the film industry following Godzilla Minus One and The Boy And The Heron. It's gonna be sweet.
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