WHO MADE OUT IN THE AFTERMATH OF THE WRITERS STRIKE?

WHO MADE OUT IN THE AFTERMATH OF THE WRITERS STRIKE? | Film Threat News

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This just in! Alan Ng and guest cohost The Script Doctor ‪@ScriptDoctor‬ report on…
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@somedude1313 Ай бұрын

these activists pretending to be writers are gonna have to learn to code

@CharlesVanNoland Ай бұрын

They already are pretending to code too :P

@anthonybrett Ай бұрын

Lol. You need to be logical to code.

@CharlesVanNoland Ай бұрын

@@anthonybrett Couldn't have said it better myself.

@Gengh13 Ай бұрын

Until AI replaces that too, specially the low level coders.

@TiaraStarbrighter Ай бұрын

AI is going to learn how to code. These writers will need to learn to be truly creative... better flip hamburgers instead. Oh wait, machines do that too!

@CallMeChato Ай бұрын

Great episode.

@stijnvdv2 Ай бұрын

yeah, well I know what they did. They fired their good scriptwriters that could actually tell a story and hired activist Tumblr writers. They write like shit and hate everything that is white, male and heterosexual.... and then they look surprised pickkachu face when the industry is collapsing.

@SamSchott1 Ай бұрын

You are the one I call Chato.

@365ral Ай бұрын

Who made it out? The audience. We made it out of Hollywood's toxicity, and are enjoying quality entertainment while the elites are stuck in their DEI cesspool.

@QuorkEx Ай бұрын

91 associated with the writing of Star Trek Discovery should thank the lucky stars that they are not in jail right now.

@xipheonj Ай бұрын

Hearing him defend forcing a 22 episode season made me want to puke. Shows should only be as long as they need to be and so many are perfect at 10 episodes, especially when you're talking about streaming and not network TV. Creating an artificial money sink to punish them making shorter shows is just evil, it's so counter productive I cannot describe how stupid this is. It's like a dentist fixing a cavity by smashing the tooth out.

@O1OO1O1 Ай бұрын

Who hires the bad writers? And why? Class traitors.

@nightprowler1 Ай бұрын

That strike thing is really starting to pay off...

@TheVFXbyArt Ай бұрын

The strikes will pay off when the work resumes in that the value of the writer is maintained for those who are working. That is the purpose of a strike: to maintain the value of the worker whether it be 10 workers or 1000 workers . A union won’t stop either the off shoring or automation of the work. What it will do is maintain the value of the worker be at 1, 1000 or 10,000.

@TheVFXbyArt Ай бұрын

2:18 you realize that writers are hired to write what the executives want them to write. It’s the executives, not the writers that have final say the script. It’s like giving rotten ingredients to a caterer and wondering why the food taste terrible, then blaming the caterer not the supplier.

@twentyoneplusvideo0472 Ай бұрын

Younger writers don’t have the money to travel and gain life experience out of their bubble. They are writing from their perspective in this current environment. They don’t have resources to live life and see things and go places, plus everything is too safe and sanitary, nobody is interested in shaking things up, creating art that move, motivates and disrupts, because the claws come out and the public gets offended or their feelings get hurt. Nobody seems to know what’s funny anymore and every mainstream story seems to have to appeal to 30 other countries. I could see where writers are at a loss. It also feels like most scripts are just pulled from other media and things that exist in said bubbles, so that’s why most shows and movies just feel like rehash of rehash. I get the impression that people say they want to be writers, but then refuse to watch movies or shows and understand what people liked about them. Back to The Future, the original Ghostbusters, movies like The Abyss sure there are plenty more examples, but there is this idea that I want to do something, but don’t want to put in the legwork to actually make an impact and be great at it, they just want to say they are writers but do the most minimal amount of work. It’s lazy, and sadly I don’t see a lot changing soon, because it feels like this is the future, just hope I’m wrong.

@CharlesVanNoland Ай бұрын

You don't need to travel to have perspective. Look at Quentin Tarantino! He was just a poor kid working in a video rental place who was passionate about film, head full of brilliant storytelling ideas.

@BloodyInitiate Ай бұрын

@@CharlesVanNolandyeah but travel helps. Life experience helps. You don’t have to live like a jet-setter, but your average Joe can’t go ANYWHERE without shelling out painful amounts of cash. Also Tarantino was noticeably different even when younger. If he were born 20 years later he’d have started with a KZfaq channel like this. He filmed himself talking about movies before the internet was even a thing. Beyond that: you don’t want to require that level of strangeness to create a talent pool. You want it to be easy for people to live their lives and find their niches. Right now ALL of pop culture is just about watching wealth, because the wealth gap is so severe that large swathes of the population have no other way to interact with most of their world.

@CharlesVanNoland Ай бұрын

@@BloodyInitiate The hardest most treacherous journey one can ever hope to embark upon is the inward journey. I've seen so many friends and family decide to travel the world to "find themselves" and they all ended up coming home right back where they started, basically no wiser and with no more sense of purpose than they had before they set out to see the sights. A programmer doesn't get good at writing code by using a bunch of software, an artist doesn't get good at painting or drawing by looking at art. You get good at something by spending a lot of time doing it, and if you have a passion about it then it's automatic, effortless. Traveling the world is not how you become a good writer. Hell, every story that Hollywood has told is already in the Bible.

@BloodyInitiate Ай бұрын

@@CharlesVanNoland I think that journey is harder and more treacherous the later you take it. I “found myself” really early without going anywhere special, but I admit I did things in the reverse order to everyone else. For me it’s just a codex of experiences, people, faces, that’s basically empty if you’ve never gone anywhere or done much with anyone. I can usually tell a writer who has been nowhere and done nothing because their characters don’t look like anyone real, speak like a college essay, and the story feels pretty isolated even if it’s a globe-trotting story. All because they haven’t met anyone, so they don’t know how people talk. They haven’t watched people so they don’t know how much character is revealed without the character talking. And they haven’t been anywhere so their story doesn’t go anywhere either, or if it does it keeps its scope so narrow that every place looks like every other place. I don’t get to go as many places as I want and interact with people in the way that I’d like. So when I watch a movie or a show that goes exclusively inward it’s not the escape or the journey I want.

@1Gr8Editrix Ай бұрын

@@CharlesVanNoland Reminds me of an 18th century poem about young English aristocrats touring Continental Europe: "How great a dunce who's sent to roam / excels a dunce who stayed at home."

@seanchan4478 Ай бұрын

They keep hiring the same show runners and the same writers, no new ideas are coming in. And more importantly, these are people who write as a job, not because it's their passion

@anonmouse956 Ай бұрын

Crappy writers are merely the result of crappy people at the top making hiring decisions.

@Warraci Ай бұрын

Always goid to hear professional writers talk about the industry

@LycanVisuals Ай бұрын

Sure they got a deal, but work is very slow right now and its terrible for people who are "below the line." The studios have to reach an agreement with IATSE in June and AI is one of the biggest concerns. The industry is just not in a good state right now with all the greed, nepotism and numerous other internal and external factors. It needs a really harsh reset.

@GregoryHernandez-wk7yv Ай бұрын

Have IATSE members really been losing homes since the strikes and beyond?

@nevertrustatory9412 Ай бұрын

It’s been pretty bad in the U.K. As American shows dominate our production opportunities the strikes shut down most of the industry. Not just for production crews but the supply companies as well. The knock on effect is the BECTU hardship fund being oversubscribed and a lot of crew leaving the industry for good. Especially hard for the young talent coming into the business. A lot of despair all round. I’ve worked for 30 years as a prop/Modelmaker and it really feels now like an industry that’s on the rocks. Never thought I’d be so glad my wife is a teacher!

@TiaraStarbrighter Ай бұрын

Zero pity for them. "Riverdale" and "Star Trek Discovery" are TERRIBLE shows that have chased the audience away from television. People like him do not deserve and NEVER deserved to write for a living. Meanwhile, far better writers are ignored because the don't check enough boxes or lack connections. While I have read tons of amateur scripts they are terrible, I have read some that are well executed or have unique ideas that another writer could polish up. Instead, they are all ignored and we all suffer for it.

@thewerepyreking Ай бұрын

I watched just seasons 5 of Riverdale and on with friends online and it is pretty hilarious. the parts that the real riverdale fans hate are the absolute best because they are wildly stupid and copy other stuff

@claytonstangeland Ай бұрын

ScriptDoctor is great

@BloodyInitiate Ай бұрын

I appreciate someone finally saying these sucky writers just suck. You don’t need another reason. The market expanded rapidly creating a huge demand for new talent to produce content. That new talent had no talent. They made a ton of trash content. The market needed to purge them. BUT if they’d miraculously all been awesome, we would just have witnessed a huge step up in quality. They weren’t though, and we got the opposite.

@hamdinger7145 Ай бұрын

I like Scripture Doctor

@cristinawilligs Ай бұрын

i preffer movies than series, because movies are a short term relationship

@dbiedler Ай бұрын

Thank you.

@lawrencetalbot8346 Ай бұрын

I’ll say it’s win for consumers/the audience because this means we will bombarded by a lot less shows/movies. Hopefully this means because there are fewer projects, the studios will be forced to put more effort into their stuff and give the audience what they actually want. If they don’t, their loss because the audience has proven they are tired of the pandering and perfectly fine saying goodbye to theaters/Hollywood as a whole

@just_a_character Ай бұрын

You guys gotta access articles using archives for free. Don’t hate the player, hate the game.

@GregoryHernandez-wk7yv Ай бұрын

Or you can hate the controller.

@just_a_character Ай бұрын

@@GregoryHernandez-wk7yv it’s so easy to get around a paywall - if the tool exists for us to use, use it.

@darthmeow1370 Ай бұрын

Byrne's solo run on She-Hulk was far from the peak of her character, and in fact did more lasting damage than anything else. His run of Fantastic Four which featured her is great, as is her time as an Avenger under the pen of Roger Stern, but as a solo title her best period was when she was written by Peter David. These runs all have one thing in common --they are non-comedic superhero stories that do not feature elements like self-parody or fourth wall breaking. That element only arose in Byrne's solo run, and was never core to the character. Many feel it was a detriment and the character works much better in the standard dramatic action-adventure superhero format. I am one of those.

@shadowshow701 Ай бұрын

Thank you. I’ve been saying this for years now

@michelleyoung731 Ай бұрын

I wish Chris all the best, but actually I'm really enjoying the show with Alan as the lead. Finally get a chance to listen to Alan without him being constantly interrupted by Chris. Alan is a really good host, he's mellow and knowledgeable.

@mechajay3358 Ай бұрын

This was a very informative video.

@ViperChief117 Ай бұрын

There’s a lot of individuals working in Hollywood. Not based on what they know or the merits of their previous work. But who they know in the film industry. lol

@lance134679 Ай бұрын

We have Amazon and I almost exclusively watch old stuff. Yes, I'm an N of 1, but I don't think I'm alone. I just assume new stuff will be bad and the studios need to convince me that their new movie or TV show isn't garbage.

@shadowshow701 Ай бұрын

Unfortunately, once you destroy the knowledge and skills supply chain that it took a hundred years to build, you’re stuffed. Plus it’s happening across the board with writing, whether scripts, plays, books etc. So many of the ‘supply chains’ producing them are now irretrievably broken. They have spent at least two decades destroying them. As current crop of post 55 writers retire that’ll be the end. There’s no-one to replace them.

@marshallnmoonshine 24 күн бұрын

The audience came out as the winners, because every week now, there’s an older movie playing in the theaters. The LotR trilogy played over the last weekend. I’ve seen Goonies, the old Dune, and a bunch of other movies from the 80s and 90s.

@johndurham6172 Ай бұрын

They have poisoned the atmosphere so much that something will have to be really good to get the viewing public back.

@alexipestov7002 Ай бұрын

Unfortunately, once the line of quality jumps that high that fast, it becomes incredibly difficult for even the absolute best to be profitable. And anyone with a stain on their record will be punished in an extreme risk adverse environment

@dbsommers1 Ай бұрын

But they'll only get hired if they are the right kind of terrible. So while they are part of the problem, they are not all of it.

@BloodyInitiate Ай бұрын

Shows with a small amount of episodes per season are actually a great innovation in my opinion. I get that a writer wants stable work, but 22-24 episodes just aren’t always necessary. You should try to make your shows feel full and efficient, but you should only make as many episodes as you have great content for. Long seasons = more filler. Filler = bad. Your show should be as long as it needs to be to tell its story. That’s all. If your goal is to have an ongoing show then you still need to be looking for how to tell your stories efficiently. It’s so lame when a long-running show keeps hitting the same loops.

@lance134679 Ай бұрын

If someone like Andrew Niccol (Gattaca, Truman Show) wasn't getting work, I'd worry. People working on modern Star Trek and CW shows losing work is the industry healing.

@lance134679 Ай бұрын

At least writers existing in LA County can write about the dystopian nightmare it's become. But I guess there's only so many dystopian nightmare movies studios will greenlight.

@henrymach Ай бұрын

At this point I hope they at least have learned that creating 437 different streaming platforms was the wrong path

@jimjam51075 Ай бұрын

If they were strong enough individuals to write a good story, they would be strong enough of a person to be "ok" in the face of adversity.

@buzzcrushtrendkill Ай бұрын

I'm disappointed that a new model of production spawn from the death of Hollywood. From what he' saying, the old system is coming back. I'd rather see a seismic shift of a more decentralized entertainment production. Oh well, always have int'l movies and shows.

@portalplayer 26 күн бұрын

with tv seasons being only 8-10 episodes now, of course there's going to be less work and less pay for everyone. these writers want it back to being pre-Netflix days. it isnt going back to those days.

@porcelainthunder2213 Ай бұрын

Just don’t deal with the Union…go freelance only. Move your production studio to a right-to-work state. Buy scripts already done.

@nerdobject5351 Ай бұрын

As a Software Engineer I can tell you that you can replace the title “Writer” with “Software Engineer/Developer” and the it’s same story here in tech. Our industry over hired unqualified candidates, over inflated the industry and now they downsized all those talentless individuals that brought in woke trash ideas and hardly did any work.

@mathmusicstructure Ай бұрын

If this is true we should have lots of well written movies and TV coming right? I doubt that very much.

@Doggieworld3Show Ай бұрын

Answer; The activists

@apocalypsetedium Ай бұрын

Not really activists tho. They're rich kids with zero life experience, following the trend of posing as an activist.

@CaptainCastle Ай бұрын

Feel like that's most activists

@Doggieworld3Show Ай бұрын

@@apocalypsetedium Its that....the same? "Trailer trash activist" or something? Facebook activist?

@BeckerFlag Ай бұрын

The 22+ episode series is over except for network TV. Also they're fix of TV at the end of the video makes no sense and would never work.

@TheVFXbyArt Ай бұрын

1:28 It’s interesting that the critique of strikes comes from these KZfaqrs that have no problem with the tyrannical authority of KZfaq . A union won’t keep your job. However, a union will maintain your value while the job continues to exist. There’s never a good or bad time to strike as its job is to disrupt the work until the agreement is met. That’s the nature of a strike. There’s no mention of the economic realities, as described in the Harper magazine issue, the rising interest rates affecting the ability to borrow money on the cheap. As movies are effectively long-term loans. As the cost of those loans went up with the rising interest rates, the quantity of loans decreased i.e. the quantity of production This has nothing to do with the workers going on strike. Had there been no strike there would’ve been a decrease of work because there’s a decrease of borrowing.

@tennooperator8182 27 күн бұрын

Instead of hiring good writers who know their subject matter or are willing to do the grind to study and learn what they are writing about. For example if youre writing a horror book or script, study certain folklores, tragedies, stories, events ect etc. All of these "writers" now and days are just failed art students who sucked as Starbucks baristas.

@dieterdengler Ай бұрын

The assertion that so-called “diverse” writers are innately less qualified/capable is the mantra of the mediocre sort who peddle writing advice on the internet.

@trevorpearlharbor5171 Ай бұрын

The fish rots from the head down. Bad executives make bad decisions in order to keep up with trends, which leads them to hire bad writers. If this sham of an industry wants to survive, the idiots at the top need to change, and standards need to be established. With standards established, writers will be forced to come up with better material.

@chrisnoble5969 Ай бұрын

X-Files

@AncientRylanor69 Ай бұрын

@SDIBINGA Ай бұрын

Yes DEI is why Furiosa and Antman and the Fall Guy failed at the box office 😅

@ShadeDraws Ай бұрын

You're a clown. Keep crying.

@ShadeDraws Ай бұрын

You're learning. Congratulations.

@kevinhardy8997 Ай бұрын

Movies are just awful. Listen to Band-Maid if you want real talent, Japan is still cool.

@SDIBINGA Ай бұрын

This "script doctor" is a 🤡

@ShadeDraws Ай бұрын

You're the whole circus.

@thewerepyreking Ай бұрын

What do you think he was inaccurate on? I am curious to hear a dissenting opinion

@lorij3786 Ай бұрын

Not just that Social media and Hollywood… ie.. Floyd/blm/trump 2062020, now 2024, opinions on the red dragon/wuflu, their own opinions No tv/cable so no ads as we skip ads on utube/platform DEI/black0ck/we.f the message