Fin Taylor: The Culture War is a Myth
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5 жыл бұрын💥Join us on our Journey to 1 Million Subscribers💥 Here's a preview of our forthcoming episode with the brilliant comedian Fin Taylor. Check out the full episode on Sunday where we discuss to what degree the culture war really exists, free speech, Count Dankula and offensive comedy.
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Stand-up comedians Konstantin Kisin (@konstantinkisin) and Francis Foster (@failinghuman) make sense of politics, economics, free speech, AI, drug policy and WW3 with the help of presidential advisors, renowned economists, award-winning journalists, controversial writers, leading scientists and notorious comedians.
@Cartoonman154 5 жыл бұрын
Al Murray who is very middle class uses his stage character, the pub landlord, to punch down on the working class.
@ajs41 5 жыл бұрын
I agree. It's a funny character but he is making fun of working-class people.
@JimpZee 5 жыл бұрын
He's also an insufferably smug self-righteous twat in real life.
@actthenpens 5 жыл бұрын
al Murray is basically a racist stage show of white people
@vicredshaw1155 5 жыл бұрын
Al Murray is mocking an attitude , not a social class .
@actthenpens 5 жыл бұрын
@@vicredshaw1155 i disagree, he mischaracterises an opinion that he can then ridicule. I've been to Thanet where he created the faux party to mock UKIP. All he did was present a regressive socialist opinion of what UKIP actually represented. It was racist caricature of whites, and not working class because this doesn't extend to poor black people and anyway the people of Thanet aren't poor their easily middle class.
@duncefunce1513 5 жыл бұрын
Hmmm, it isn't a myth. It's just virtual. Real world impact, though. I wish it was a myth.
@corsicanrose2853 5 жыл бұрын
@Eric Bowman that's not a good line of logic just because it's true this time
@lesserspottedmugwump.363 5 жыл бұрын
Eric Bowman Yay Santa. I knew he was real.
@davidbrinnen 5 жыл бұрын
9:24 The "it's a joke" is no longer a defense, just ask Mark Meechan and his fascist pug. It is not an "exaggeration" when you've been arrested, prosecuted and convicted. Well done bringing that up Konstantin! At this point it is mainstream. This guy needs to a visit from the thought police, then he wouldn't be so casual about what is happening. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hZ6dd9pzrr6yg4U.html Also guys, you should get Vee on, he has such a lovely voice, everyone should enjoy!
@davidbrinnen 5 жыл бұрын
@@pyroknight4099 Aye, but you know, technology, it doesn't have to be a face to face interview. Vee talked with Aydin Paladin and she is in the US as far as I know. Interesting channel too.
@lesserspottedmugwump.363 5 жыл бұрын
Pyro Knight Vee lives in a caravan.
@davidbrinnen 5 жыл бұрын
@@lesserspottedmugwump.363 Like the true Gypsy prince that he is?
@benjaminperez969 5 жыл бұрын
Between the Scylla of "Woke" and the Charybdis of "Red Pill", two brave Odysseuses (Odyssei?), Kisin and Foster, model the kind of intellectual honesty, epistemological humility, and existential bravery that's all too rare these days. TRIGGERnometry is indeed a galley worth rowing.
@triggerpod 5 жыл бұрын
Best review ever. P.S. Someone read Ancient Greek history at Oxford!
@davidbrinnen 5 жыл бұрын
@@triggerpod Yeah, you'll have to explain it all to this comprehensive school boy. Who the what now? Any clues welcome.
@davidbrinnen 5 жыл бұрын
@@pyroknight4099 I don't mind the flabbergastery... just so long as someone is prepared to explain.
@benjaminperez969 5 жыл бұрын
@@davidbrinnen, Homer's epic, The Odyssey (Books XII-XIV). (Note: Google- and/or SparkNotes-able, alas...)
@DieFlabbergast 5 жыл бұрын
Well, well... When I was boy at grammar school in the 1960s, the expression "between the Scylla of XXX and the Charybdis of YYY" was a well-worn and commonly used argumentative tool, i.e., it was NOT confined to classical literature scholars. Tempora mutantur, nos et mutamur in illis, eh?
@kennyb6591 5 жыл бұрын
Hasn't he heard about 'hate speech' legislation. The culture war is very real.
@bunkerbill 5 жыл бұрын
There's a war on reality right now.
@Xceloverdose 5 жыл бұрын
So sad that in 2019 we are talking about the censoring of humour. As Monty Python said: "No one expects the Spanish Inquisition!"
@NonLocalYokel 5 жыл бұрын
This guy is destined for mainstream success. And if that isn’t insulting af to him, i don’t know what is.
@theyliveglasses4667 5 жыл бұрын
I bloody wish it was a myth or "just a few extreme examples" or just hot takes on Twitter. That would be great.
@conrad1on 5 жыл бұрын
There's some truth to the notion that a lot of the culture war stuff is amplified to a level that most ordinary people aren't really paying attention to (even if in some cases perhaps they should), and if you just get off the Internet for a bit the world seems generally less angry and divided, but to suggest that the whole thing is overblown is strange when one of the country's major newspapers is trashing you for telling jokes that aren't woke enough. I'd be interested to see what Fin thinks about this in a year, or even six months. He strikes me as someone at the very start of waking up to this stuff. I can say from experience, that it's been about five years for me now, and I still have basically no idea where I stand with a tremendous amount things I was once fairly sure about.
@lesserspottedmugwump.363 5 жыл бұрын
It is a tough one, I can see where he’s coming from though. If you go down the social media rabbit hole it can twist your mind set. I thought I was immune but I’ve fallen for it a few times, Twitter is the worst by far.
@conrad1on 5 жыл бұрын
*@Lesser Spotted Mugwump.* I unironically think Twitter is one of the worst things that's ever happened.
@doodlefisher234 Жыл бұрын
Fin Taylor intellectually surpasses both these asinine free-speech “warriors”
@jamesgarvey3063 5 жыл бұрын
I would agree with Fin in that wider society has no care or knowledge of the culture war, fought by the extremes on the internet, but that doesn't mean to say this fight doesn't influence society progressively, which I think is Constantine's point.
@Talshere88 5 жыл бұрын
This isnt a "preview", is a full quarter of the interview.
@simozonelayer 5 жыл бұрын
leaving twitter doesn't mean twitter leaves real life. Ignoring it doesn't mean it's not there.
@tribalisnt 5 жыл бұрын
If he is saying that there are more normies than anything else and that the normies mostly don't give a shit then he is correct.
@karolinasz.141 5 жыл бұрын
just because it’s online, doesn’t mean it’s not real
@duncefunce1513 5 жыл бұрын
Also, what does he mean 'a 'Spiked' inside job'? Is that something 'Spiked' do? Fan of Fin Taylor, btw, he's a breath of fresh air.
@duncefunce1513 5 жыл бұрын
Oh, Mr Taylor says the same thing I just said.
@ariellawaltman6693 5 жыл бұрын
Looks good guys
@xenophon3681 5 жыл бұрын
4:42 Wow that one just sailed right past you two eh? :D
@lesserspottedmugwump.363 5 жыл бұрын
Sounds a bit like “don’t worry this dog never bites”. It’s a very bizarre situation, you have Frankie Boyle on the BBC even though he has said some really extreme things. I think saying orange man bad gets you a few virtue points to spend.
@peterc3262 5 жыл бұрын
Was this before you were forced to sign a contract that said you wouldn't say anything offensive on stage or after, Konstantin? It's no myth, as you now know.
@actthenpens 5 жыл бұрын
How can he claim there is not culture war after he starts describing it. he talks about how Hannah Gatsby gets taken up of netflixs and then her message gets disseminated to a wider audience how then disseminate, which then becomes the socials norm other find acceptable. What does he think he a culture is? The people talking about it only are the ones who are aware of whats happening but culture will affect the people in the middle.
@johannesjoseph823 4 жыл бұрын
How somebody could be a quarter Greek? i.e. is just a leg or and arm Greek and the other is from another country?
@matthewnevin9156 5 жыл бұрын
2 Mins in and i still don't have the first clue what this guy is droning on about. Goodbye.
@mosipd 5 жыл бұрын
I guess MeToo and BLM weren't part of the culture war and governments aren't arresting people for social media posts. Yeah, the culture war is very much NOT a myth, and if you think it is you're severely underestimating its effect.
@somerandomhomeboy 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Triggernomerty Guys Please Stop Dripfeeding your full episodes 48 hours ahead of time. Its counterproductive!
@thanksfernuthin 4 жыл бұрын
"Rrraaghh! Free Speech!"... dude, it's not a fringe opinion. Free speech was and is supposed to be almost universal. And if you're not part of the main group then you normally have some very dodgy opinions. Free speech is the corner stone of Western culture. The fact that you see it as a fringe argument is what is horrifying most of us.
@DJItchyBoo 5 жыл бұрын
Fin's problem here is that he's mentally subscribing to the idea that "social media isn't real life" but that's just not true anymore.
@stevemillington3849 2 жыл бұрын
Gosh you make so many assumptions about left wing people! lol. One minute you say culture war only exists online and then moments later you say you have a totally mixed audience???
@LadyHashZ 5 жыл бұрын
The other guy is what would happen if John Oliver wasn’t a big deal
@bobsmith5185 Жыл бұрын
This guy is clueless
@TheDaddyNick 5 жыл бұрын
Is this actually a question? Garbage content. Not even bothering to start to listen. Unsubscribed.
@triggerpod 5 жыл бұрын
If you had listened, you would have seen that we challenge our guest and disagree with him. How can you say it's garbage if you haven't watched it LOL
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