+vivi_cho Same...I've watched this video about 15 times XD And this video is actually the reason that I watched firefly, and it's now my all time favourite show :D

Regular Review: About 5 minutes FireFly Review: A Necessary 16 minutes

vivi_cho the theme song should be sung to fox

@@ryanwilliams9712 snap!

What was every character's secret. We obviously now know what Inara's, Book's and River's were but what were everyone elses.

+BabyKrogan And it also taught people to be obnoxiously rude to their own friends and have no sense of humility or empathy other than how their friends can benefit you, and to also have a chip on their shoulders toward life just encase their pride was hurt from losing a fight. PS: I don't like the Firefly series.

+starstone7 Um...ok then. O_o

+starstone7 what are you talking about?

@106101707362749982700 The characters in the entire Firefly saga including the movie, act and treat each other that way, and the writing in the show and movie literally tried to justify and defend that behavior as if it were somehow a good thing. The characters are all a bunch of narcissistic children in adult bodies with weapons, and most of their sense of kindness and humility was in the form of what could feed their ego and not make them "feel alone". When I saw the first trailers to it, I hoped it was going to be a live action version of Outlaw Star (I liked Outlaw Star), but it disappointed me with the character's so called "growth" and the show's annoying nerdy nuances (too nerdy for normal living and maturity), and I don't like that southern cowboy persona, it's annoying, sure Outlaw Star is "called" a western, but actually it's really more of a "street biker" story that turned into an amazing "Fifth Element" styled fantasy adventure story, and the main characters didn't even act like cowboys in that cartoon. I tried to like Firefly and Serenity at first (trying to ignore the opening song lol), but it was so hard to do, the characters were so petty, narcissistic and full of themselves in the show and in the movie, and the writing was trying to justify and or glorify that behavior, the characters reminded me of the narcissists in my life, who verbally and physically abused me. Plus, side note, most of the writing and concepts about psychology and physics in the show and movie are actually unrealistic, ironically I actually found the physics and human psychology more realistic in Guardians of the Galaxy than in the Firefly saga. Outlaw Star was a story that Firefly and Serenity tried and *failed* to be (not that Joss Wedon even knew about Outlaw Star), but then I saw Guardians of the Galaxy, and that movie is so much better than the entire Firefly show and movie, Guardians had a lot more growth (humility, kindness as the *actual* main theme without that unhealthy "clinginess") than the Firefly saga and film, the writing in Guardians of the Galaxy actually defended things like humility a lot more than the writing in the Firefly saga and film, and preached against pride and vanity a lot more than the Firefly saga and film, it preached humility and kindness as morality. Guardians of the Galaxy is what made me satisfied, it is literally like a merging of Outlaw Star and the Fifth Element put together :). PS, A fighting competition between the Guardians vs the Firefly crew= Guardians win by a light year.

starstone7 That's an unusual amount of hatred for a show that you didn't like that came out like 10 years ago and was canceled after one season...

I always loved her optimism. 😃

@@mr.2cents.846 Right? She was such a sweetheart. 🙂

***** Avatar would be the kids block.

+Aequitas 1995 I don't know that I would call that revenge.. Remember Joss had just come out of two very well received and long running series' Buffy and Angel. Fox did respect his talent but in my opinion not quite enough.

Lefty Hara Oh yeah- especially if they cancelled a series with so much potential after its first season.

Lefty Hara Problem is they didn't really respect him. Despite giving him the green light for the show, they did pretty much everything to make sure the show would fail. They opened it in the Friday night death slot, aired episodes out of order, told him the pilot was too long, giving him only a few weeks to write and film a new first episode. They didn't even air the last two episodes and if I remember, kept moving re-run times around or canceling them entirely for other programs.

Yeah, I remember. I was there.. Firefly was my favorite TV show that year which was really frustrating. Because it was at a time before DVR was common; I had to fish to try to see the show.. Working hard at it I still managed to miss some episodes that aired. Thank Joss for DVD that even had 2 episodes that never made it to TV.

Vincent Nguyen we all still hate fox!!!!!!!!

In answer to "Warrant Officer Ripley," IQs did drop suddenly at Fox TV, which led to airing episodes out of sequence and preempting it for more profitable sports programs. Yep, Teenage Mutant TV Programmers were/are loose in the house of Fox, endlessly pursuing their 11-25 age demographic.

Me too

We all do we all do

This is still relevant.

+Tom Sproson it didn't even allow the show to wrap up its first season!

Serenity was the chance to wrap up some of the plot elements as best they could. As they pointed out, most cancelled shows don't get a movie.

I didn't reach the point of tears. But it's worth noting that for a few years I waited for Castle to end in hopes that Nathan Fillion might consider reprising the role of Captain Reynolds. Sadly, I think any chance of that happening ended when Ron Glass passed way. (RIP Detective Harris)

Goddamn STD got 3 seasons and thats garbage incarnate

2d 3rd 4th 5th 6th.........

They did the same for Futurama... THOSE BASTARDS!

+The Whiteheart Don't know if it was inevitable or not but they sure fucked up.

+The Whiteheart *gorramit

Goramit lol 😂

and Arrested Development

*its (possessive) it's = it is/has

alvallac21 really?

alvallac21 grammar nazi on a 5 year old comment? Lmao

True. It haunts the actors. They like to implement Easter eggs in other roles.

What was every character's secret. We obviously now know what Inara's, Book's and River's were but what were everyone elses.

Nomad602 Oh my sweet fuck, NO! Don't ruin the franchise by aborting it into a four-hour QTE!

Ex Metu Veres you're an idiot.

He did continue them a bit...Comic books

Not any more

What was every character's secret. We obviously now know what Inara's, Book's and River's were but what were everyone elses.

all of them \m/

OUT OF GAS! I understood ur commet btw

War Stories was my favorite episode, too.

Add “Objects in Space” and “Ariel” to that

Super Super Hero Joss Whedon also gave Warner Bros. a script for a Justice League film. They turned him down. But hey, Avengers. And Whedon is said to be a....creative consultant, for want of a better term, on EVERY SINGLE MARVEL PHASE 3 FILM that's coming down the pipes.

Veritas 1995 WB accepted all of whedons scripts and they were in the middle of making many DC movies from different writers and directors; then came the tragedy. Back then WB used to listen to fans quite a bit, but when the fans are complete bitches, moan and groan about every project, WB naturally closes the projects.

The game is here. It’s called the Outer Worlds.

5 yrs ago I got a Trek buddy hooked on this just by watching it ;)

i am.forcing my partner to watch it now

And then when they finally do. They love it.

sadly i failed miserably on that front, my friends never watched the show and so, i remained alone in the darkness

Same, i just did it hahahaha

I've hated Fox for much longer. Firefly just cemented it.

How do reavers clean their spears? Put em through the Wash.

+DEEZ GUYZ why? why? why? why?

+DEEZ GUYZ Too fucking soon!

Well thanks for the fucking spoilers guys

8OBO8 came out in 2005 tho

Mine too. I guess this is what going mad feels like.

04nbod SON OF A BITCH.

04nbod No... THIS is what going mad must feel like... hehe-

I'll put it this way: I've sung the Hero of Canton multiple times in public. Because its great.

The Son of Suns it wasn't actually my favorite episode but Jayne was already my favorite character. The latest thing is that FOX said they would take up a renewal of the show- but only if they could get Joss. (Joss who is now supremely popular, respected, in demand, with all the Marvel movies) Not surprisingly, Joss said no. Sad, but vindicated.

Yes, it would never happen though.

OCSleazy It would be amazing, but if you look at River then and now... It's impossible, and the fact we lost Wash and Book... ;(

In the reboot, i wouldnt mind if they acted like the movie never happened or they came up with a stupid reason and brought them back to life. Anything to get the show back!

OCSleazy True. They could set it about 10 years after the film, to where Wash and Book aren't there and everyone's older than before.

Nice idea but Serenity was just too perfect of an end to Firefly, I miss it immensely too but that was the ending Firefly needed, and the one it fortunately got.

This series was awesome now I gots to find serenity and my life will be complete

Conman Reloaded Netflix?

Don't have it

Amazon?

I'm curious, did the DVD set go in the order that Joss wanted? Or the order that was aired? Is the first episode Serenity, or Train Job?

Wow...When revealed on the show, that would've crushed so many peoples hearts.

What she needed was a Kangen water machine.

I just made my mom watch it. Why? Because she should, and when she neared the last episodes we both got so sad because we knew it was going to end soon. Goddammit FOX!!!

What was every character's secret. We obviously now know what Inara's, Book's and River's were but what were everyone elses.

Us Browncoats are so hardcore we would jump in the snake pit just to beat that guy up. Who's with me?!

It’s like a Muse concert in that regard (and Deadwood, the show).

...... watch me soar

dies

Too soon Doc, too soon.

I too shall use your adjective.........if U don't mind......

Of course I don't...Makes me feel good :D

Wouldn't that be a noun?

right....you....are.....omit the 'a' then..."this thing is gonna be Firefly.... I wish I had you on every step of my life preventing me from getting embarrassed in useless situations :)

Just play the song of healing to obtain a mask that carries my spirit.

Nice throwback to "Our Mrs. Reynolds" there, Book.

Same goes to those who cancelled Stargate Universe, but they have a chance to revive it still tho.

Penny Lane why did it get cancelled? and also why doesnt it get recalled again? alot of people want to see the more of the series and there are alot of unanswered questions and open endings

ashmaan27 Obviously, these questions have been discussed over and over on the internet: www.quora.com/Why-was-Firefly-cancelled-so-quickly?share=1 There's somewhat of an official statement on the topic but I'm not sure if this is _that_ valuable in this case nerdapproved.com/news/former-fox-president-explains-why-firefly-had-to-be-cancelled/

Penny Lane "Former Fox President" isn't a valuable statement because what matters is it was canceled.

YEAH About 50 times, fuckin' love that movie :D

awesome. now go watch Battlestar Gallactica. Jeremy gives a great review of that as well and that show as well is awesometacular. I love Star Wars, and I love Star Trek, but I rank both Firefly and Battlestar as my top 2 sci-fi worlds

I will haha that's next on my list, I'm midway through Star Trek: TOS right now, then next generation and battlestar

@@ryanwilliams9712 Got updates on how that went?

I'll be in my bunk.

love me some cowboy bebop

I think it's time we blow this scene Get everybody and the stuff together Ok? 3, 2, 1: Let's jam

Bebop was _already_ a space western xD . But in general, yeah. If we had a live-action Bebop, which they've been trying to get off the ground for what feels like forever, it would definitely be Firefly. God, this show was so good.

Darth Jaulce I am about 90% sure that Firefly was STRONGLY inspired by Bebop

Darth Jaulce cowboy bebop

***** love u bro could not have said it any better!

***** you cant say dexter is better then firefly

Dexter had some amazing seasons, 1,2,3,4 and 7, a great one in 5 too, but 6 and 8 sucked. Firefly is more resonant, let's agree on that.

***** That's a new one! Usually you get idiots saying that after the first 4 seasons it gets shit, but the first 3?! You're taking stupidity to a whole new level!

***** Intelligence is about perception; if you do a dumb thing, you might not be that smart. If you arrogantly proclaim that you're more intelligent than another, especially only over the basis of a disagreement of opinion, on one thing, you're not that smart. The overcompensation shown by taking out your thesaurus and sounding as pretentious as possible is yet another example of naivety; you don't know that what you're doing is making yourself look dumber than you clearly feel. That's not to say that naive people can't be smart, but too much of it, as demonstrated only in your 3 and a bit line comment, points to an ironic lack of intelligence. But back to the point in hand, S4 is widely held to be the best season of the show and one of the best seasons ever made. Why is it that you think it goes downhill? Dismissing the upshoots that were S5 and 7 is bad enough, but 4? I want to see if you can justify that. Without your thesaurus if possible. I want to know why you think if differs from 1-3 so much, because personally, I think thematically, character wise, villain wise etc., it builds off of what came before and makes it all better than it's ever been.

And his maths were perfect. . . Ten percent of nothing is-let me do the math here. Nothing into nothin’. Carry the nothin’…

What was every character's secret. We obviously now know what Inara's, Book's and River's were but what were everyone elses.

Nick DesRosiers Shiny!

You know HBO would of cancelled the show as well, burying its greatness along with Deadwood, Carnival, and Rome

i really like Out of Gas

also i can smell the trolling

Although now that I think of it Trash is probably my second place favorite. A little Oceans 11 action, and the return of Christina Hendricks. Can't go wrong there.

Ariel was my favourite - mainly for the scene between mal and Jayne at the end.

bruce wayne I think it's fair to say there isn't really a single "bad" episode of Firefly.

Joshua Night's King "Jane?""Yeah Mal?""You want to tell me why there is a statue a you here looking at me like I owe him something?" The writing was just awesome.

mercy is the mark of a great man *stabs him* guess I'm just a good one. *stabs him again* I'm alright

ratguy101 stabs him a second time well I'm alrigh

JackJyls oh yeah, it's it's alright not ok

One of my favorites :)

MisterGutsy108 Nice profile pic. Transistor is finally here!

F*ck no. I want like a fully open world firefly game where you can play as Mal or any other character. In my a pinion telltale sucks

Tracy Jones That's just your preference, man. Some people enjoy games based primarily on story like the point-and-clicks of old, some don't. Just because you don't enjoy Telltale's games doesn't mean others won't. Live and let live!

True. No hate here

Tracy Jones Good on you! Rarely do you see such civility in comment sections. Thank you for that!

You're very welcome! Cheers mate ;)

The pilot is weird isn't it! When you first watch it you're like....okay? But I found the more I see it the better, and better it gets.

Tallulah Robinson Yeah if you're introducing the show to people, don't start with the pilot cos, you're right, it is a bit weird, it's almost a different tone. I usually show people Out of Gas first to see if they like it

Kenneth Pryde Ah, it's not YOUR fault. Murphy's Law is to blame.

Kenneth Pryde I always feel that too ha ha

You should it's very good

a lot of people say they are very similar and honestly that's motivation enough for me to watch the show

True he does but most people consider Firefly his best work and Dollhouse his worst and Agents of Shield Average I guess.

Dollhouse was awesome though.

I'm pretty sure he didn't do Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. he gave that show to his brother to do

Dollhouse was alright.

Yes. Buffy is my favorite show of all time. Dare I even put it above The X-Files on my list. I wish we could have at least gotten a full 22 Ep season of firefly. Sigh.

Cowboy bebop ftw

Yes. That is exactly what I thought. I'm sure he was inspired by the anime

its one of the main inspiratons

love both

Sounds like I need to watch that anime. Because Firefly is my favourite series

I tried getting through it, but I just barely made it through the first episode, it was just so dull.

***** You're dull

+Raver Reviews I loved Freaks and Geeks. Same kind of taste as That 70's Show

+Raver Reviews I loved Freaks and Geeks. Same kind of taste as That 70's Show

Freaks and Geeks is near perfection, and I dare say I enjoyed it more than Firefly. I group them together as those fantastic shows that were cut down in one season and desperately underappreciated.

I always thought to myself that I'd rather hook up with Kaylie than the other gals on the show but they were all beautiful, I love a girl who isn't afraid to eat a burger......with cheese and bacon!!!!!! And Kaylie is hot as hell in the show period.

Too bad that we'll never know. Personally, it may have surpassed Battlestar Galactica is my favourtie sci-fi.

Yes. Yes it would

Nope! River is amazing! 😁