First electric motorcycle ride with the AC 20 motor. #34

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dave6ix

dave6ix

8 жыл бұрын

I ride my electric conversion motorcycle with the new HPEV AC 20 motor and Curtis 1238 controller.OK, more details it is....
The latest build of the bike has these items.
-24 of Sinopoly 100 ah LifePo4 batteries.
-deltaQ battery charger on board provides charge from 120 or 240 volt supply as its voltage sensing. (takes about 6.5 hours to charge from dead)
- The donor bike was a very heavy steel frame 1988 Suzuki Katana 1100, the bike all up wet full of electrons weighs in at about 650lbs.
- It now has a Curtis 1238/650 3 phase AC controller that will put out 550 amps, has reverse, has regen. braking and an economy mode.
- It now has an HPEV AC 20 3 phase AC induction motor that's rated at about 50 HP and 70 ft lbs of torque with an RPM setting of 6500 rpm.
- I now have the bike geared with an 11 tooth on the front and a 72 tooth on the back giving a 6.5 to 1 ratio direct drive 1 gear no clutch.
- The bike has a top speed of 130 kmph or 81 mph (I just changed the gearing again this week) and it gets there fast, I haven't timed it yet but it goes ok (think a 500 cc twin).
- Range around town I am guessing because I have never run it dead would be about 106 kms (.75 ah per km) or about 67 miles. My route to work is 36 kms on a coastal BC road with lots of hills and twisties, my speeds range from 50 kph to 120 kph, if I ride it hard I can use as much as 1.2 ah per km for the trip. So worst case range driven hard would be around 66 kms or 41 miles.(100 ah battery pack with 80% safely usable). I normally use 1 ah per km mixed ridding so 80 km range city highway. I weigh 200 lbs plus all the gear all the time so probably 220 or so all up.
- The only sound you hear is chain noise....ZZZZZZZ sort of like the Jetsons.
- The battery pack is insulated and heated so ambiant temps don't affect the range.
- I have about $10,000 Canadian pesos into it now partly because I used a crap motor to begin with that I had to replace and a BMS and a controller.....my wife amazingly continues to put up with my shit.
- Original BMS was a one of built by an electrical engineer from Calgary the has failed twice so is now being replaced by the EMUS bms soon to be installed.
- Head lights are twin 35 watt HID projectors from China which work Very well with a perfect cut off like I've never seen.( I ride in the dark in the rain 2 hours a day 6 months a year roughly)
- This bike was purpose built for my commute to work everyday, the only change I would make or will make is a better donor bike, something with full fairing but lighter weight, ZX10, Busa etc., maybe build my own aluminum frame and put some sport bike forks and suspension on it and keep the tupperware?
- I also have a tricked out 2012 Super Tenere sitting in my garage, but all that shifting gears and pulling the clutch, stopping for gas just seems like such a chore now....lol

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@tebrannan
@tebrannan 7 жыл бұрын
Just discovered your video. What a GREAT source of information! Thanks for the dialog as well as the lovely scenic ride.
@dave6ix
@dave6ix 7 жыл бұрын
Thomas Brannan glad you enjoyed it.
@jakeccr
@jakeccr 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the inspiration! I'm in a club at my University that has converted a Chevy S10 from gas to electric. I think I know what our next project might be! I appreciate how thorough all of your videos are, they taught me a lot.
@orastojames7468
@orastojames7468 6 жыл бұрын
You gave us the opportunity of riding wt you in your country British Columbia wow wow. . nice place to be tanks alot Dave.
@SEAPORTLIFE
@SEAPORTLIFE 2 жыл бұрын
Great build and video. I even enjoyed the narration. 🙌
@CHAND-xo3uc
@CHAND-xo3uc 7 жыл бұрын
hi dave i learned so much from u ur secret word also.. after seeing ur bike from almost 10months i m working for my bike a spend lots of money to make electric motorbike so many motors i burned.after spending lots of money and time a made my bike which can charge atomatically.so many people told you cant make but i done speed is 90kmph 80amps of full current that charge battery. motor which can pull 7people thanks for ur video that made me proud... thank u
@Sputz3
@Sputz3 2 жыл бұрын
You was truly ahead of your time! 😳
@glasserallen
@glasserallen 7 жыл бұрын
Wow what a beautiful area you live in, that's a Great, ev bike you got there,very nice vid!
@dave6ix
@dave6ix 7 жыл бұрын
da man thanks, the area is nice, the mountain bike trails are also world class. Glad you enjoyed the video.
@2jeffs1
@2jeffs1 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Dave. What an awesome build complete with a video worth watching! That 3 phase setup looks to be the hot ticket for a street bike. Enjoyed the dash instrument tour. Everything has a purpose. I have been using shunt and series wound motors with lipo Leaf batt's here for multiple off road projects. Was checking into pm motors and seen your failed ME-1003 motor video. (what got me here) Wanted to say thank you for the info, will save me lots of time. Quit researching those for any future projects where they don't look to be a good thing. (torque wise too) Will be doing a Yamaha 3 wheeler next.
@prime-eight
@prime-eight 7 жыл бұрын
This is the best motovlog on an electric motorcycle that I have ever seen.. there is only a few other motovlog-ers that ride an electric motorcycle and they are not informative at all. This gentleman lays it all out in a very articulate, we'll spoken way.
@dave6ix
@dave6ix 7 жыл бұрын
MC5 Limited Skills wow thanks.
@merman93
@merman93 6 жыл бұрын
Your videos provide lots of inspiration for the diy crowd. I'm convinced the AC motor/Curtis inverter controller is the most reliable, off the shelf system. If someone is an experienced programmer other systems may provide benefits, but for plug and play there is none better. I am interested in working on a system using a combination of batteries, Super Conductors, AC/Curtis, and a small diesel genset for an extended range hybrid. My inspiration was mostly prompted by seeing your trial, errors, and succes. Thanks for your videos.
@dave6ix
@dave6ix 6 жыл бұрын
merman93 Wow, thanks for the comments. I am glad I can be an inspiration. I will be coming out with an update soon to let everyone know how the bike is now and what I've learned.
@smadjaone
@smadjaone 6 жыл бұрын
great job ... whaoo .... 3 steps gear ( not gear box ) is a must for better range .... i think ...
@salemsari
@salemsari 5 жыл бұрын
i like nerdy stuff like those good job👍👍👍
@dave6ix
@dave6ix 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I had to go full on Nerd to design and build this one....lol
@naimatkamal1991
@naimatkamal1991 6 жыл бұрын
awesome vidoe dear
@orastojames7468
@orastojames7468 6 жыл бұрын
Indeed you got it...the real world e super bike...
@onegreenev
@onegreenev 7 жыл бұрын
Impressive. Im using Leaf Cells for my VW Bus and CALB SE 100ah for my VW Bug. The bug is a DC setup with an 11" Kostov interpole motor and the Bus an HPEVS AC35.
@dave6ix
@dave6ix 7 жыл бұрын
Pete McWade cool
@hodaka1000
@hodaka1000 5 жыл бұрын
Maybe try a spring loaded chain tensioner. I'd say the chain noise really wouldn't be as bad as you think.
@Clearanceman2
@Clearanceman2 6 жыл бұрын
Hope you have a loud ass horn on there. I put a freeway blaster horn from Amazon on my 1997 vulcan 500. It's louder than a car horn. It was only $15. That bike is more quiet than most and it's still louder than yours. Big horn makes people pay attention so they don't pull out in front of you and kill you. I hover my thumb over it when there are a lot of side streets and people are waiting to pull out on the roads. It's saved me twice so far just since summer.
@reversingentropy
@reversingentropy 7 жыл бұрын
Good work 😁. 1 + sub
@dave6ix
@dave6ix 7 жыл бұрын
Pro Diy thanks.
@solosinnombre
@solosinnombre 6 жыл бұрын
I WANT!!!
@BlessedFromAbove
@BlessedFromAbove 5 жыл бұрын
I’m thinking this is a perfect frame for a project to build my electrical motorcycle, I have 1992 Yamaha Xj600 Street fighter with a belly Faring option, I don’t know where can I find parts and what to get?
@dougiequick1
@dougiequick1 5 жыл бұрын
Something else to consider would be motorcycles that used modular drive train components Not a lot of choices that are not also highly collectible. ...of course old Harleys and various old british bikes Royal Enfield, BSA, Triumph, Greeves, Norton ,AJS....but such would make it possible to bolt electric motor fairly easily to primary and transmission...might even have use for clutch? Slipping it to build revs? Something with a driveshaft??
@mayureshjadhav8002
@mayureshjadhav8002 7 жыл бұрын
how you selected ur motor horsepower? I made my two excel sheets bike on flat surface, one with hp and torque required without acceleration on wheel and another with hp and torque required with acceleration on wheel,which data should i choose to select motor specification with acceleration or without acceleration?
@Clearanceman2
@Clearanceman2 6 жыл бұрын
Wow that's almost as quick as a 500cc motorcycle. But still, good project. New sprocket will help.
@dave6ix
@dave6ix 6 жыл бұрын
Clearanceman2 A very slow 500cc bike.....lol
@Clearanceman2
@Clearanceman2 6 жыл бұрын
I bought a 1997 Kawasaki Vulcan 500 from a buddy this summer for $650. It needed plugs and all fluids and filters. I also had to buy a battery and take the carbs in and have them sonic cleaned they were so clogged. I've got 6400 miles on it so far. I love it and it gets 50 miles per gallon. Electric is an interesting project, not for me, no cash. What's funny is insurance here is $75 per YEAR. Ha ha
@dave6ix
@dave6ix 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks.
@AndreLuiz-ip3fh
@AndreLuiz-ip3fh 4 жыл бұрын
What battery you're using?
@RIPPERTON
@RIPPERTON 8 жыл бұрын
The chain noise comes from having a small sprocket. Going to a belt, you wont be able to get the same reduction as the chain drive. You could end up with a double reduction belt primary and chain secondary.
@dave6ix
@dave6ix 8 жыл бұрын
Agreed.
@micheals1992
@micheals1992 8 жыл бұрын
below what temperature does the range get effected? I've heard that you're supposed to store lithium ion batteries in cold storage (at 3°c). i'm not sure what performance would be like at that temperature though!
@dave6ix
@dave6ix 8 жыл бұрын
below about 4 degrees c it looses range a bit. I have the batteries heated and insulated so cold temps are not much of a factor.
@marcbrasse747
@marcbrasse747 6 жыл бұрын
Very informative! You seem to have gone through quite development process. What I am actually wondering is how the bike has done since this video. We are now almost 2 years further. Is the motorcycle still running? Do you still use it regularly? How do the batteries stand up?
@dave6ix
@dave6ix 6 жыл бұрын
Hi, still running the bike daily, just under 30,000 kms on it now. I notice no difference in battery life or capacity yet.
@marcbrasse747
@marcbrasse747 6 жыл бұрын
Hey, great to hear! So why not shoot a new update video? Maybe telling a bit about the running costs since then (No more burnt out motors I assume?). Concerning battery life: I saw vids about buying second hand electric cars, in which one is warned that battery capacity might become an issue because they could loose 30 % of their capacity after the sort of mileage you mention, the vehicle thus loosing range accordingly. Maybe the near optimal average ambeint temperatures you mention are benificial in that respect (?). I have actually started my own project where I am first concentrating on the vehicular concept and building the running gear so I can postpone the investment in the costly parts as long as possible and thus take advantage of the latest developments in battery technology. I'd love to exchange thought on thast if you are interested since oyu seem to be very well versed in the electronic aspects where I am more of a mechanical guy.
@Jaytea671
@Jaytea671 4 жыл бұрын
I thought I submitted a comment or more so a question so if this is a double I apologize. My question was, what made you decide on the HPEVS AC 20 as oppose to something bigger like a 25 or 35?
@dave6ix
@dave6ix 4 жыл бұрын
Why that size, well I felt anything smaller would be underpowered and the next size up may be too heavy, too physically big to fit alongside the battery pack, and finally would have less range or require a larger battery pack. Everything is a compromise, you want to go fast or you want to go far? That motor is 65 lbs and my battery pack is 175lbs, I also carry a large charger in there. You run out of room to put stuff real fast. Good question, thanks.
@guzziventure1750
@guzziventure1750 8 жыл бұрын
Nice! How about a shaft driven bike. Two advantages over chain driven: 1. You can place the motor longitudinal and connect the drive shaft directly to the engine. (place the motor somewhat 'diagonal' and use a u joint.) It is more efficient than a chain. 2. Because of the rotation of the e-motor longitudinal, you can flip the bike more easily from one side to the other. Rotation of bike and rotation of the engine (inertia) work the same way then.
@dave6ix
@dave6ix 8 жыл бұрын
not as efficient and limits your options on changing gear ratios.
@guzziventure1750
@guzziventure1750 8 жыл бұрын
Not as efficient? Oh, I thought more. Saw somebody on youtube doing just that, without gearing. Don't know which motor he used.
@Mehmet.Miyasoglu
@Mehmet.Miyasoglu 5 жыл бұрын
I wonder why people who make ev conversion on motorbikes dont use shaft drive. And I couldnt find any video about that. Can you give a link?
@micheals1992
@micheals1992 8 жыл бұрын
I wonder if you get all that chain noise on a gasoline bike? maybe it's just drowned out by the engine
@mayureshjadhav8002
@mayureshjadhav8002 7 жыл бұрын
can you send me the block diagram of circuit and components of ur ev,i know how dc circuit for ev works,but not AC wiring
@daveanderson5194
@daveanderson5194 6 жыл бұрын
Dave, can you tell me is your AC-20 72V, 84v or 96v ? Also how many KW or Ah of battery did you need for the 100km range that you mention. I am thinking of doing mine.....
@dave6ix
@dave6ix 6 жыл бұрын
Dave Anderson 72 volt, 100 ah pack. All the specs are listed on the page with the first video in this series. I would go with the lightest bike that will take the weight.
@daveanderson5194
@daveanderson5194 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I see I read the specs now. I was figuring about $CAD 8-9K to do it which is not great value, but fun. I was thinking about $4500 for the motor, controller, DC-DC converter, contactor and throttle, and another $4500 for the batteries, I will have to outsource some welding to the frame but the rest I am good to do.
@Motoch3
@Motoch3 6 жыл бұрын
Wanted to ask you about your gearing. I am working on a bike with the AC20. You are running a 5.5:1 sprocket and sounds like you were going even to a 6:1 ratio. Trough my research I was see a 4.5-5:1 on what some other bikes were going with. I wanted to get your thought on why you like such a big gear ratio. Thanks
@dave6ix
@dave6ix 6 жыл бұрын
Charlie Hatfield I was 7 to 1 for a while but the motor sprockets were not lasting so I am back to 6 to 1. I like the low gearing because I get good acceleration and have the top speed that I require for my commute. Taller gears require higher current to start off and accelerate.
@Motoch3
@Motoch3 6 жыл бұрын
I go back and forth on weather to run a jack shaft to get a gear reduction or not. Off the jack shaft I can get a 2:1 ratio allowing me to go lot smaller sprocket on the rear wheel. It just becomes more complicated as far as bearings, and machining more parts, and way to tension the belt from the motor to jackshaft. The direct drive simplifies things but was not sure if it will be able to work. I am designing my own frame so have flexibility. I worry that the project is going to get to expensive and complicated for my experience. That is your thoughts on the direct drive or jackshaft gear reduction?
@dave6ix
@dave6ix 6 жыл бұрын
Charlie Hatfield A planetary 2 to 1 on the motor shaft would be ideal if you find one. The jack shaft, I don't know. If your bike is light you may get away with a 5 to 1. I am sure you will figure it out.
@cizin456
@cizin456 5 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know how sensitive these are to water? The poster mentioned driving in the rain for months at a time, so maybe it doesn't matter, but is there any negative to rain getting into the vented area at the end of the motor that's sticking out the side?
@dave6ix
@dave6ix 5 жыл бұрын
not so far as long as its not full of salt or dirt.
@StarboundSound
@StarboundSound 6 жыл бұрын
Hey Dave, I have a 1972 600cc Honda z600 microcar , it weighs about 1200# , what size ac motor might be a good fit?
@dave6ix
@dave6ix 6 жыл бұрын
WHATEVER YOUR NAME IS Not sure, it depends what you want out of it.
@StarboundSound
@StarboundSound 6 жыл бұрын
dave6ix I want to be able to keep up with up to 70-80mph commuter traffic for an hour in the morning and an hour and a half in the afternoon totalling about 100 miles a day round trip.. I believe that I can keep my 4 speed manual transmission by removing the top end, including pistons & counter weights and attach the electric motor directly to the crankshaft via chain drive, I'm just not sure how large of an ac motor I will need
@dave6ix
@dave6ix 6 жыл бұрын
WHATEVER YOUR NAME IS You may want to look at the ac 34 motor with a 96 volt 100 amp battery, this may do the job but range may be a problem depending on hills wind efficiency speed etc. This will add some weight also.
@gregstafford2155
@gregstafford2155 6 жыл бұрын
Would a 5kw motor pushing at light 150kg bike be ok? Im thinking about 120kph top speed and 200km range for my build
@dave6ix
@dave6ix 6 жыл бұрын
Greg Stafford not sure if that would be enough power for those speeds.
@muhammadwaqar3406
@muhammadwaqar3406 4 жыл бұрын
Are you using temperature sensors with your EMUS BMS?
@dave6ix
@dave6ix 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, each cell has a temp sensor.
@orastojames7468
@orastojames7468 6 жыл бұрын
Where can i get your complite kit and how much will it cost?kindly help sir.
@FarmerFpv
@FarmerFpv 4 жыл бұрын
This is DIY not for sale kits, stop being lazy and google what he has in the description you degenerate entitled millennial twat!
@TheFootbaldd
@TheFootbaldd 8 жыл бұрын
Hmm, did you consider using the AC -35 when you swapped gear? I am thinking of using the Curtis 1238 with the AC-35 but on a smaller Suzuki s40 and with a 29s (LiFeSo4 ) 100Ah pack. Do you have any remarks about the feasibility of doing that? Also I would want to be able to at least do 1c charge rate; have you looked at running a higher balance charge rate for when remotely recharging?
@TheFootbaldd
@TheFootbaldd 8 жыл бұрын
In regards to the lower voltage threshold can't you have a protection that will cut power if sustained above an upper low voltage setpoint, or possibly throttle power to maintain cell voltage above an upper low voltage setpoint. (by upper low voltage setpoint I mean slightly above your low voltage limit)
@dave6ix
@dave6ix 8 жыл бұрын
+TheFootbaldd I used the AC-20 because of size, price, RPM range (0-6500 RPM), power and torque ratings and I am so far very happy with the motor controller BMS set up I have now. A higher charge rate would require a more powerful charger which is bigger, heavier and more money. When building a bike with everything on board you run out of space real quick.
@TheFootbaldd
@TheFootbaldd 8 жыл бұрын
Have you looked at using the m size cylindrical LiFePO3 batteries with a "honeycomb" structure sink to both distribute and isolate thermal loads? Battery cooling in my case, or battery heating in your case; could be easily applied with a honeycomb structure.
@dave6ix
@dave6ix 8 жыл бұрын
+TheFootbaldd no I have not but that seems to be the way to go for max power density.
@berdia0305
@berdia0305 5 жыл бұрын
Like !! )
@piarakahlon4712
@piarakahlon4712 3 жыл бұрын
hwo can buy parts
@dougiequick1
@dougiequick1 5 жыл бұрын
ANOTHER Epiphany! A TWO STROKE donor bike! Because the crank area of engine is entirely isolated from trans and wet clutch ...MEANING that one COULD machine a power shaft to replace the crankshaft! It would have a gear rather than crank halves and conn rod ...PLUS the cylinder studs to use as a means of bolting on electric motor!...."crank" seals might be a challenge as crank chamber would be dry...you would have entire clutch and trans! For a pressed together 2 stroke crankshaft it seems entirely cheaply doable to machine the hell out of crank halves and then bolt them together with sprocket between them! Maybe have dual sprockets/ dual electric motors each polarized to turn crank is same direction...symmetry of motors protruding from each side kind of like a horizontal opposed cylinder arrangement Batteries could be shoved under cut away fuel tank/ in previous exhaust radiator areas not to mention where air cleaner and carbs and original battery went......also there is "adventure bike" luggage which could carry batteries too...
@joshtinaglia1458
@joshtinaglia1458 8 жыл бұрын
You talk about heating, what about cooling? I don't know about your climate exactly but have you come across any solutions to keeping your li-ion cool?
@dave6ix
@dave6ix 8 жыл бұрын
cooling the battery pack has been a non issue. cooling the motor and controller will be the issue first but it's not that hot here so no problem so far. I live on the west coast of Canada so it's a mild climate for both hot and cold.
@tinags
@tinags 8 жыл бұрын
+dave6ix ah must be nice, Colorado can get toasty in the summer. I like your project by the way, nice work.
@dave6ix
@dave6ix 8 жыл бұрын
+tinags thanks, it can get hot here but not often.
@joshtinaglia1458
@joshtinaglia1458 8 жыл бұрын
Another question, where did you get your 13 tooth sprocket from? And why did you elect to go 5.5 ratio?
@dave6ix
@dave6ix 8 жыл бұрын
Li-fe-phos batteries, no problem with cooling, they live in an insulated box and never get hot. I now have an 11 tooth sprocket on the motor and it accelerates pretty good now. www.electricmotorsport.com/ev-parts/power-transmission/finished-bore-drive-sprocket-choose-chain-bore-teeth.html
@bensgarage8325
@bensgarage8325 6 жыл бұрын
Would it be possible to do this with a shaft drive?
@dave6ix
@dave6ix 6 жыл бұрын
Sushi Moto sure just not as efficient and would need further gear reduction because shaft drives are normally about 3 to 1.
@cutty02
@cutty02 7 жыл бұрын
On Lifep04 you can safely use 100% with a good BMS not 80%. LIfep04 is always rated to 100% DOD. most Lifep04 are rated @ 2000 cycles to 100% DOD. Also the charging efficiency is what causes the mismatch. Most lifep04 is 95%+ efficiency when charging.
@dave6ix
@dave6ix 7 жыл бұрын
Cutler Cycles _interesting
@Ivan-yo4hy
@Ivan-yo4hy 7 жыл бұрын
I am puzzled. Why then u need BMS if u can 100% DOD lifepo4? Shouldnt less complicated and cheaper option be balanced charger after u get all your cells or most of them down to 0V? Are u sure u brought back all your cells back to life after 100% DOD? Also, 2000 cycles is related to C number, how fast u are charging and discharging the cells and how much DOD u abuse them over time and their SOC during "resting". Whats the purpose of LVC then? Can u explain? Dave, sweet ride!
@cutty02
@cutty02 7 жыл бұрын
100% DOD is reached at around 2.0-2.5v with lifep04. They are very sensitive to overdischarge. One time could kill them. Yea you are right 2000cycles is related to C useage. Lifep04 is usually rated 2000+ cycles at 100% DOD @1C. The C rating has an impact but that much as long as you use them within parameters. The LVC in the BMS is important because it prevents the cell voltage from dropping below ~2.0-2.5V which can damage the cells permanently even after 1 overdischarge.
@Ivan-yo4hy
@Ivan-yo4hy 7 жыл бұрын
Cutler Cycles oh, i thought 100% DOD was from around 3.6 to 0 V. Thx for info!
@dave6ix
@dave6ix 7 жыл бұрын
Cutler Cycles exactly...
@dimman77
@dimman77 2 жыл бұрын
Is that Port McNeil?
@dave6ix
@dave6ix 2 жыл бұрын
Powell River
@72rattles
@72rattles 4 жыл бұрын
what kind of money do you have in this project?
@dave6ix
@dave6ix 4 жыл бұрын
Including the 1st motor and controller, about $10,000.00 Canadian dollars.
@winstonpaul3398
@winstonpaul3398 6 жыл бұрын
What a great bike ! did you say you used tesla battery or just a common car batteries. And would a AC 23 be too much I'm from Edmonton
@dave6ix
@dave6ix 6 жыл бұрын
Winston Paul I used Sinopoly 100 amp li fe phos batteries. The 23 has more torque and lower rpm, it might be better than the 20 because of gear ratios required.
@winstonpaul3398
@winstonpaul3398 6 жыл бұрын
thanx ...
@terrancel1786
@terrancel1786 6 жыл бұрын
are you in Washington state, it looks like Washington state.
@dave6ix
@dave6ix 6 жыл бұрын
terrance leacock no, I am 130 miles north of Vancouver in Canada on the west coast.
@raktimbharatee7087
@raktimbharatee7087 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Dave, can you plz give me your email address? I am working on a bike with the AC20 Curtis 1238 controller and need your advice on few things.
@mayureshjadhav8002
@mayureshjadhav8002 7 жыл бұрын
what changes you made to change power train Dc to Ac?
@dave6ix
@dave6ix 7 жыл бұрын
mayuresh jadhav motor and controller.
@mayureshjadhav8002
@mayureshjadhav8002 7 жыл бұрын
dave6ix what about 12 v battery system for ur bikes electric accessories like headlamp
@dave6ix
@dave6ix 7 жыл бұрын
mayuresh jadhav it has a 72 to 12 volt converter, no 12 volt battery.
@mayureshjadhav8002
@mayureshjadhav8002 7 жыл бұрын
does Ac power train is cheaper than dc power train comparing by Same performance
@dave6ix
@dave6ix 7 жыл бұрын
mayuresh jadhav no DC is cheaper.
@Sertao2013
@Sertao2013 6 жыл бұрын
Great job . I have a Honda eu2000 generator that is very small and very quite . It weighs about 40 lbs . It runs 8 hours on a 1/4 load on ,95 of a gallon of gas . So you can see if the eu2000 was connected to your motor instead of your battery's you could ride all day on less than a gallon of gas . I want the ue2000 to fit in a drop in framed frame so it ends up setting where the gas tank would be so it can be refilled just like a regular motorcycle tank would . The exhaust is on the back end so it would be going under the seat and blow out the back . What do you think a generator running a electric motor on a motorcycle ? even on a full load full time using 13 amps continuous usage which would never happen the eu2000 would still run over 3 hours on less than a gallon of gas . That still 300 miles going 60 mph . Its 2530 miles from coast to coast in the united states ,that means you can travel 60 mph and go 2530 miles on 8.4 gallons of gas . This is something the oil company's don't want car or motorcycles to find out . Remember thats on a full load of 13 amps of use . Its going to be closer to less than half of that amps so your going to get closer to 8 hours of run time . Even if you figured 7 amp full time use of the motor thats makes it 4 gallons of gas to across the united states. Will you hook up a amp meter or tester to your motor and find out how many amps your using going 60 mph .
@dave6ix
@dave6ix 6 жыл бұрын
steve dental between 100 and 150 amps at 60 mph. Hard acceleration up to 600 amps at 80 volts, so a ton of power.
@Sertao2013
@Sertao2013 6 жыл бұрын
My generator puts out 13 amp continuous AC power max . What would be the best AC motor that uses around 10 amps max .? What rmp electric motor should I go for ? I know that a 110 v 1/2 hp motor uses 9.8 amps . Would a AC 1/2 hp motor run a motorcycle ? If so what front and rear sprocket set up would I need .
@dave6ix
@dave6ix 6 жыл бұрын
The power you are talking about is about right for an electric bicycle and not a fast one.
@Sertao2013
@Sertao2013 6 жыл бұрын
What AC motor HP do I need to be looking at for top speeds of 70 mph and average speeds of 45 mph . A 1/2 hp ac motor is a pretty powerful motor . How do I go about figuring what hp motor is needed to turn a motorcycle tire ? What rpm motor and sprocket set up is needed to turn the back tire fast enough to go 70 mph .
@dougiequick1
@dougiequick1 5 жыл бұрын
Mid/ late 80's GSXR 750s were aluminum frame ...lightest 750s at the time I believe ....under 400llbs all gassed up....good wrap around fairing to hide ugly batteries too....a beater with a blown engine is pretty worthless probably get one for a 200 bucks as parts bike
@dave6ix
@dave6ix 5 жыл бұрын
ya my choice of donor bike was a mistake....very heavy.
@mayureshjadhav8002
@mayureshjadhav8002 7 жыл бұрын
did you use VFD ?
@dave6ix
@dave6ix 7 жыл бұрын
mayuresh jadhav yes 3 phase 650 amp 72 volt.
@kmuralikrishna1582
@kmuralikrishna1582 4 жыл бұрын
What is mean by VFD
@kmuralikrishna1582
@kmuralikrishna1582 4 жыл бұрын
@@dave6ix how AC motor work with DC current supply. If even used any converter, the DC battery pack will discharge less easily in few minutes like 5 to 15 min Is it right or wrong please correct me
@dave6ix
@dave6ix 4 жыл бұрын
@@kmuralikrishna1582 I use a 3 phase AC controller, it converts DC to 3 phase AC. It's a VFD (variable frequency drive). Most ac motors run on 60 Hertz so they always run at one speed, with a VFD you control the Hertz which in turn controls the speed of the motor. The controller I use is very efficient and has very small losses.
@rowdykjjj79
@rowdykjjj79 7 жыл бұрын
it not Regen the same due to laws of prepuatuial motion. In which it states can not be. done. there for if you were able to. put back as much as. u use ud defie. this law. an lots of people would want to no. just how u did. it lol like u video very informing. an the bike app laction sounds like as if it truly could. hit seeds of 150 mph. sweet the AC 20 three phaze this I never. would of figured
@dave6ix
@dave6ix 7 жыл бұрын
Rowdy Savage Slayer! 130 kilometers per hour not miles....thats like 75 mph. regen only puts a small amount of energy back into the battery because of inefficiency within the system like wind resistance, friction , heat etc.
@rowdykjjj79
@rowdykjjj79 7 жыл бұрын
dave6ix well nicely made bike .
@FPVREVIEWS
@FPVREVIEWS 7 жыл бұрын
regen is for braking and some energy is lost.
@Clearanceman2
@Clearanceman2 6 жыл бұрын
And Bigfoot. Don't forget that. Bigfoot and British Columbia go way back. I think he migrated there with the first white settlers. Or maybe with the Indians. Or something like that.
@dave6ix
@dave6ix 6 жыл бұрын
Clearanceman2 Yes Bigfoot, an important part of electric motorcycle design. Funny note, animals run off the road in front of the bike far sooner than my gas powered bike, maybe due to the high frequency sound from the 3 phase motor????
@Clearanceman2
@Clearanceman2 6 жыл бұрын
That's amazing, I wouldn't have expected that reaction. Maybe it's like a deer whistle device?
@kristiantato888
@kristiantato888 8 жыл бұрын
how many watts and voltage have?
@dave6ix
@dave6ix 8 жыл бұрын
with this controller I can pull 550 amps at 80 volts, so 44,000 watts for short bursts.
@cutty02
@cutty02 7 жыл бұрын
Should have just bought a zero FXS 6.6
@dave6ix
@dave6ix 7 жыл бұрын
Cutler Cycles OK.
@cutty02
@cutty02 7 жыл бұрын
I apologize. This bike is better in many ways to the FXS and about $4000 USD cheaper. Excellent job
@dave6ix
@dave6ix 7 жыл бұрын
Cutler Cycles Thanks, I mostly wanted the experience of building an ebike for the education. I still commute on it everyday.
@cutty02
@cutty02 7 жыл бұрын
dave6ix I just built my first electric motorcycle. for about $2800. 1975 Yamaha Cafe 50 miles city 30 miles freeway. 2 hour charger (1.5kw).
@dave6ix
@dave6ix 7 жыл бұрын
Cutler Cycles cool, building and ridding your own bike is a great experience.
@hazelmcgladdery3657
@hazelmcgladdery3657 5 жыл бұрын
R
@dave6ix
@dave6ix 5 жыл бұрын
R
@roxyrambo6579
@roxyrambo6579 6 жыл бұрын
whether you can stop talking for a moment
@SKBKER
@SKBKER 5 жыл бұрын
that's very rude but I agree
@nukesaway4806
@nukesaway4806 7 жыл бұрын
Starts the video and sucks back snot and swallows, classy.
@dave6ix
@dave6ix 7 жыл бұрын
Nukes Away I had no idea my audience was so sensitive, I was dealing with some sinus issues. I will be more careful not to be so offensive in the future, I hope you recover fully from the shock and horror of my disgusting behavior.
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