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"You think it's over just because I'm dead." Fucking epic line. Ugh I love Saw so much

Basically the whole movie is taking place concurrently with Saw III except for the autopsy scene which takes place after

It’s funny how nearly everyone who sees Hoffman for the first time immediately recoils and dislikes him 😂. The fact that he managed to get so many people to immediately react to him like that, shows he played the part really well.

Okay, so let me explain a couple of things. Don’t worry, this shouldn’t spoil any future movies. That being said though… *Spoiler alert for Saw 1-4!* #1: Detective Hoffman was indeed introduced in Saw 3, but he really didn’t do anything in that movie which is why it’s so easy to forget him. #2: With the bed trap the second button would have taken out his other eye and let him live. The guy just ran out of time. #3: Strahm wasn’t working for Jigsaw or purposely trying to implicate Rigg as the new accomplice. He was just being an idiot. #4: This movie was actually happening around the same time as Saw 3. As evidenced by the fact we saw Strahm burst into the building around the time Jeff was making it to his final test. Also I’m not sure if you noticed it, but the shouting heard from the operating room in that scene was actually from the finale of Saw 3. #5: What Jigsaw said about Strahm killing an innocent man was true. Jigsaw was referring to Jeff there. If you recall the finale of Saw 3 Jeff’s gun only had a single bullet which he used to shoot Amanda. So Jeff’s gun wasn’t even loaded when Strahm made it to him. #6: The autopsy you saw at the beginning of the movie was actually at the end. Now that we know Hoffman was another apprentice the message takes on a new meaning. Basically Jigsaw is saying that even though Hoffman is his last surviving apprentice and John himself is dead Hoffman will still be tested like Amanda was at some point in the future.

Also, there are some characters from the previous films in the flashbacks you may not had noticed. The dude who slapped Cecil in the face was the dude who got shot in the eye in Saw 2. The dude in that chain trap from Saw 3 is in there. The chick who tried to do sexual stuff to John outside was the same chick in Saw 2 who got caught in that razor box trap. Another dude who had the venus flytrap in Saw 2 was in that flashback as well. And lastly, the dude that Amanda ended up killing to save herself from her trap in Saw 1 was there as well.

that "game over" was so damn EPIC! Hoffman is a beast!

4 and 3 are happening at the same time. So at the same time Jeff is chilling doing his thing , this is all going on

I think you misunderstood the trap that the pervert was in. The second button didn't tear him apart, that happened because he doesn't push the buttons fast enough. You seem to forget, legitimate Jigsaw puzzles can be beaten; John Kramer always left a way for people being tested to get out if their will to live was strong enough.

Why do so many people reacting to this movie dislike Agent Strahm? I immediately liked him. I got weird vibes from Hoffman, but seeing the pig mask behind him threw me off & I didn't suspect him as Jigsaw's accomplice. I love all of the Saw movies because of the twists.

I like how you were quick to suspect that one of the plot points in the series would be that an unknown individual was framing someone else of being Jigsaw's apprentice/replacement, even though it's not in this film. I just saw it as Team Jigsaw trying convert Rigg, and arrogant, over overzealous, hot-headed Agent Strahm stupidly misreading the early crime scenes, and suspecting Rigg as the apprentice and replacement. But you we right, as you already know 😁😁😁 ... someone does frame an innocent person.

this took place during saw 3 that's the twist to show it wasn't a plot hole about Kerry's trap they DID have someone stronger helping and that's why she was taken she was getting to close to finding him out

Just so you know, Detective Mark Hoffman was in fact first introduced in Saw 3 during the crime scene involving the man in chains. But back then, his identity was unknown and he didn't serve any meaningful purpose yet. The actor portraying him is named Costas Mandylor. Aside from the Saw franchise, I only ever saw him in the NC-17 rated film Delta of Venus.

So the first scene in saw 4 the current time in the whole movie is a big flashback during that flashback it takes place at the same time of saw 3

took me a couple watches of this one, so many characters and imo some of the guys look so similar (all square jaw, dark hair) I got them mixed up haha! The weird twists and overlapping timelines are so interesting (imo). enjoyed your reaction, looking forward to the next ones!

4:45 That's funny I was thinking they cast him with the attitude of "We can't get Dennis Quaid but he'll do" 12:08 I'm pretty sure that like Michael in 2 and Troy in 3(door welded shut aside), Ivan was just seconds too late in pressing that second button. I think the second button was supposed to take out the other eye.

Never understood why Riggs was targeted. “You better stop…doing your job” lol

🪚👍 0:00 - 0.11 🤣 0:38 - 0.47 That's exactly how I feel about them.

I never noticed Colin Mocherie behind you. Dude is legendary! Genuinely the player in Whose Line history. And to top it off, right next to another legend, an icon, Henry Winkler.

Here come the jigsaw sympathizers. It continues to get more wackey from here. I forgot the traps in this movie but remembered the storyline

Saw 1: I'd love to see your reaction to this! 🙂 Saw IV: I'd love to see your reaction to this! 🙃

21:40～ omg!!

saw 1 and 2 are gold, the rest remain entertaining from a gore horror point of view

I love watching these reactions. I especially love how you can sense the twist from miles away from can't pinpoint how or why it would happen. I also love that you can remember parts of a crucial detail but not the entire thing which just keeps you as blind as we are when we watched this. It's like playing at a disadvantage... HAHAHA

I love the transitions in this a lot, but really like 5 and 6...

The girl at 12:40 btw is the girl from the second movie who got her hands stuck in the razor blade box ~

Btw the fact you have a spiral drawn in the back is actually pretty ironic given the next couple of movies and it’s use of symbolism

I actually like this movie more than the third movie. Here are my pros and cons to this movie: Pros: finally got closure for detective Mathews( yes he dies, but it was a cool death) The game had a good message and was executed better than Saw 3 More backstory on jigsaw Officer Rigg was more like able than Jeff Cons: Lame twists

Love that you are reacting to the whole series. I can understand that you think they are getting slightly worse but I think 5 is better than 4. Can't wait for your SAW 5 reaction 🤗

Bro holy crap I just had a thought : you should SOOOO start reacting to sons of anarchy. The story telling is amazing even tho it’s a gang show. I always thought I wouldn’t like it because of the biker gang but it’s so much more than that

12:10 ish when you thought one button got rid of an eye and the other button got rid of the limbs I was basically screaming internally going "NO HE JUST RAN OUT OF TIME!!!!" lol. amazing vid btw

The theme song for thos movie IV by X-japan is amazing. And the mv they made for it is awesome on many levels.

20:04 You Can See A Key In The Box🤯 I Never Noticed That!

Your description is kinda ironic since the quote you referenced from breaking bad is said by the same actor that played art in this film.

12:03 incorrect, he didnt hit the other button in time. It wasnt a mislead.

I’m loving these reactions!! Also you’re Donnie Darko reaction was perfection 👌🏼

keep in mind the saw films were made one right after the other for i think at least 6 years (not sure the time between 1 and 2). they were basically going into production on the next one before the previous was in theaters. i always got the feeling that they made mysteries in one movie and solved them in the next instead of having a clear goal. I had read they had a different plan for hoffman but for one reason or another they went another direction.

I loved the way Saw 2-4 was directed. I was so excited that Bousman returned for Spiral: From the Book of Saw. Shame it's the worst Saw movie by far. (Even Saw 3D was better, and that movie was the weakest by far before that) Please continue. The fact that you are watching them all with less of a break between them is great. They really work so much better when you watch them quickly. They are like a TV series designed for bingeing. In fact, I wish the production team behind The Boys would do a Saw tv series. The gore in that show is incredible. Thanks for reacting to them all. (i know you've not done them all yet, but honestly, I wish more people would. Despite how convoluted the story got, that's actually a major reason why I LOVE this series. The series may be weirdly convenient. But that's actually one of its biggest strengths in my opinion. It's so rare that something like that can actually be a positive. That is worth applauding imo. I can't think of any other series of films that works quite so well. I really hope Hoffman returns in Saw X. But if he doesn't. So be it. Part of me wishes Saw X would be like Jason X. They'd just go balls-to-the-wall crazy. A clone of Jigsaw is created in the future onboard a space-station. Maybe a crazy scientist (i'm thinking Tommy Wiseau) clones John Kramer. And he makes new traps. And since it's the future they could go sci-fi. For example "the shuttle you are currently on is heading towards the sun. The only way to reverse it's autopilot, and return it to earth is by using the lightsaber provided to remove your limbs, and reaching the button on the opposite site of the shuttle) kinda thing. It would be nuts. And some Saw fans won't like it. Because they didn't like some of the traps in Jigsaw. But i think it's time to abandon realism, and embrace the insanity. A saw trap in zero-g would be so much fun. It's crazy. But fuck it. Saw has always been crazy. Time to go absolutely insane with it. The fact that the Jason Voorhees movies got nuts, and then adamantly refused to go any further is imo the worst thing they ever did.

Let’s gooooooo we love saw!

The actor of art blank plays Declan , the “Your Heisenberg” guy. That’s where you know him from

Your love for the hello zepp theme gives me life

Um actually in the rapist trap, the one in the red room, he was supposed to press both buttons quick enough such that both his eyes are gone before time limit. But he hesitated and didn't press the 2nd button quick enough such that all his limbs are pulled out as a consequence.

I can’t believe I never noticed that Art Blank is Declan from Breaking bad, you blew my mind!

Always love when others give Jill Tuck the appreciation she deserves, bad as hell.

It's interesting that in Saw IV there was a LOT of cameos from previous films characters in and around the clinic

Saw 3 and 4 took me a couple of watches before I liked them, whereas I loved the first 2 instantly. The great thing about the Saw films is that there are so many small details which you may miss at first, but then notice when you watch them again.

The ending is not that confusing. Rigg's game and Jeff's game were at the same time. We went back in time after the autopsy scene.

The tape in Jigsaw's stomach is at the end of movie.

Hot damn, I never realized Art Blanc was that dude in BB. Hey, I've never seen Saw 8 (Wasn't a fan if 6 and 7), is it worth watching?

It was not a misleading trap. The guy ran out of time. Both buttons were to drop the spikes on his eyes.

It only gets better from here on you gotta do the rest

9:43 what’s in the fuckin box😂😂😂😂😂😂

can you react to the film 8mm with nicholas cage and joaquin phoenix

Please watch the whole series

Yea that was Declan from breaking bad lol

I mean he has to swallow fish oil pills that are huge when it comes to cancer so not suprising he can lol

You feel for the red herring! Discount Rob Lowe is the good guy and Hoffman was the bad guy! Love these movies!