There's nothing to fear regarding the balance of the turbo Ian, the balancing is between the exhaust turbine and the impeller, as you aren't removing either of those from the core then the balance won't be affected buddy, hope that you managed it in the end! 👍
@Classicmotorbikes3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info Kev, I’ve done some research and the core should be pressed into the exhaust housing 😱 as I don’t have a press I’m worried about not getting it back in square and causing something to bind.
@BorisKarloff663 жыл бұрын
Great video mate, I liked your jig, great idea, it saved tacking it up in the frame. As for what exhaust, i would go with the full exhaust system, like others have said a sleeper turbo build Keep up the great work
@Classicmotorbikes3 жыл бұрын
Hey Adam, the jig isn’t perfect but so much easier than working straight off the bike, I do like the idea of keeping it as a bit of a sleeper but someone suggested making the exhaust modular so I can change it easily, I’ve got a plan and fingers crossed it will work 😎
@philippemarcelgrohmann12253 жыл бұрын
I was waiting for that! Keep doing this!!! 🤗
@Classicmotorbikes3 жыл бұрын
I’ll keep doing this 👍 I can’t wait to ride it for the first time but I’m also enjoying learning how to build it as well 😎
@tzrdan3 жыл бұрын
Great to see more progress on this one Ian! Slash cut exhaust all the way!!
@Classicmotorbikes3 жыл бұрын
Hey Dan hope you are well, it’s good to get some progress on video. I’ve got a feeling I’ll need to get some more exhaust flanges so I can have one for every design 🙈
@larrybarnes39203 жыл бұрын
There's nothing to fear in reassembly. You got it apart you can get it together again. 👍
@Classicmotorbikes3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the vote of confidence Larry. I might give it a go but get it checked over afterwards
@AdamGTS3503 жыл бұрын
Good to see some progress mate. I've recently built a CB900F with a garrett gt2560r turbo hanging off a shorty manifold similar to yours. For the dump pipe I used part of a 90 degree bend cut in such a way that the outlet is a tear drop shape about 200mm out from the turbo outlet flange. Its loud, but not as loud as say a open pipe Harley as the turbo has a small amount of muffling effect. Coolest part is the flames it belches on engine run down/deceleration in gear, my right riding boot does get pretty warm on a decent ride tho...
@Classicmotorbikes3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Adam, I do like the tear drop idea but like you say I was a little worried about my foot getting warm! Are you using the standard CB900F engine? What RPM does it make boost with gt2560r? Have you had it on a dyno? Ian
@Almightyrastus3 жыл бұрын
Good to see this series back again. With regards to the exhaust, I would definitely build a full system as one option and look at doing it with as much modularity as possible with the options to swap out bits and pieces as you want/need. That way you can have sommat a bit more sensible or straight pipe it right out the back. Then use the other flange to make up sommat real nasty with a short pipe. Take a look at the Fasterproms channel and look at what they have done on the Katertot exhaust (Turbo Honda K-swapped Smart Car), the exhaust tips on that look spot on.
@Classicmotorbikes3 жыл бұрын
That’s a great idea about making it modular 👍 I think I could do a couple of different setup on one down pipe that way 👌love the Katertot Build what a crazy thing, I’ve got to agree the exhaust does look good on that
@MrPsiclone6663 жыл бұрын
good info on maximum suzuki forums on turbo setups the yanks love them
@Classicmotorbikes3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the recommendation, I’ll check it out 👍
@SAM-zt2uy3 жыл бұрын
Interesting to see the re clocking of the turbo, many moons ago I was going to swap to a bigger turbo on my volvo but the clocking kinda put me off, I think a few turbo bikes use the volvo turbo because it’s fairly small for quicker spooling and can about survive on 15psi which is mega fun in a 1.5 ton brick
@Classicmotorbikes3 жыл бұрын
Hey Sam, thanks for the comment. I was a bit unsure of clocking the turbo as well but seen that most fitted to a bike needed it. The toughest thing so far has been trying to remove the dowl from the compressor side, that and removing the core from the exhaust side!
@67Screwy3 жыл бұрын
Great job,the only thing you need to worry about the turbo is taking off the turbine blades,they are a balanced assembly,everything else just simply bolts back together,as you took it apart,simples! Also don’t use a metal gasket on the turbo to manifold join,use paste instead as the metal ones break up and go through the blades and bugger the turbo up! Great work, I built a turbobusa 5 yrs ago and two years ago got involved with Bigcc racing in Wokingham and now have fully built the motor and got a Bigcc turbo kit, once you start on the boosted road there ain’t no going back! Your want more boost within a year trust me😄
@Classicmotorbikes3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info 67Screwy 😎 my plan is to have this as my first experience into turbo motorcycles, when I've had my fun I plan on trying to improve the kit I've made and get some more power through different ways. I've got a feeling this will make the "It's Bandit o'clock" bike a bit slow!
@multtube3 жыл бұрын
😎 Man excellent video as always.. I think Short exauts to the foot rest or full system will make beter looks.. Awesome cooking...😁😁😁
@Classicmotorbikes3 жыл бұрын
Hey Jay glad you enjoyed it, I think the 2 exhausts you suggested are my favourite so far 👍
@jimmycav3693 жыл бұрын
Great idea using wood as a template for all your exhaust positions
@leebrookes76113 жыл бұрын
Looks fookin awsome mate want mine turboed so bad slash cut looks mental mate
@Classicmotorbikes3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Lee, I’ve been wanting one for years decided it was time to try and make my own setup, think a slash cut could work 👍
@bostonbikebits65393 жыл бұрын
Go Shroom!! Been looking forward to this.
@Classicmotorbikes3 жыл бұрын
Hey Dave, hope you are well, I’m enjoying the Junkyard Dog project over on the website 😎
@CLMUZAK57753 жыл бұрын
Thanks super in depth!
@deighmo3 жыл бұрын
I don't know how you got your head around all the angles for the headers. Excellent job mate. I reckon a slash cut exhaust just behind the footrest to stop it looking to front heavy. Look forward to the next one, thanks.
@Classicmotorbikes3 жыл бұрын
It did take some time and head scratching, I wanted to show off the fabrication more but sometimes I’d be in the garage for 2 hours any they didn’t look any different 🙈 I like the idea of a turn out just behind a below the foot pegs 👍
@StudentLife76664 ай бұрын
Cool video))
@grahamhider37543 жыл бұрын
45 slash cut. Nice work well done 👍
@Classicmotorbikes3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Graham, think the 45 slash cut would be nice and simple to do 👍
@tomdickharryjane3 жыл бұрын
@@Classicmotorbikes To start. Get it running first.
@reggiebacci3 жыл бұрын
Full exhaust mate and I'd follow the original routing as closely as you can. In my experience Suzuki put stuff in places for reasons you don't always appreciate until after you've cocked it up. Don't ask me how I know.
@Classicmotorbikes3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Reggie, don’t worry I won’t ask 😮 I do like the idea of a full system
@jimciancio9005 Жыл бұрын
Don't want to be raining here on anyone's turbo parades here, but before you go much further into your project and figure out the harder way. The turbo, especially the non sealed journal bushing type can not be mounted lower or inline with the engines oil. Otherwise being the lowest point of your oil level, the oil will be inside the turbo drain pipe and continuously pushing oil out the journal bushings into both the exhaust and intake sides of the turbo shaft. This is why they are usually mounted on the upper sides of a engine or on top, in front, but above the internal oil level of the engines oil capacity. Also if these types of turbos cannot drain off the excessive oil quickly enough AKA because the oil is as high or lower than the internal static oil level, even while running the thing is going to be puking out oil into the exhaust and intake system. A healthy rule of thumb is no less than 3 inches above the oil capacity of the engine. Unless you are planning on using some sort of remote oiling system that sits below the engines oil hight somehow? At this height where you are planning on mounting it, it will be a very hard learning curve, which I'd really not like to see someone go through. It costs valuable time and money. Unfortunately Unless you are planning on spending stupid money on a custom made ceramic ball bearing sealed turbo? Which I think the same basic rules apply for as the oiling drain back to the sump needs to be slightly higher than the oil capacity so when it's not being used all your engines oil or at least to the hight of your turbo will be draining past the journal bushings as it sits there loading up both ends of your turbo. That's particularly the main reason for this main rule of thumb. Turbos unlike say a supercharger, do not posses any type of springed rubber/viton lip seals. They usually rely on the metal to metal fitment and some specialty designed almost cupped washers or rifling basic of the journal bushings that helps redirect the excess oil which has made it almost to the outer ends of the cartridge and shaft, which redirects this oil back into return holes inside the cartridge, so It ends up flowing downstream and back away from the turbo and into the sump of the engine or catch can if you are using a remote oiling system? The drains on about 90+% if not all should be done so gravity is removing the excess oil from the turbo cartridges. Any sort of back-pressure or ie; oil level built up within your drain tube is going to have no other options, but to push your oil out of the bushings and shaft ends. This will result in a nonstop fog machine action, and depending upon how worn the turbo is? Ie; used? This effect will be even much more prevalent than say something tighter or rebuilt, no matter what though it will happen and especially if you attempt to utilize your dry turbo as a "draw-through" the creation of a deep vacuum upon any sorty of throttle blade closure with increase the amount of vacuum on your compressor side and being a journal shaft design is going to literally wanting to suck the oil out the the non sealed shaft and filling the compressor housing full of oil especially if it's below oil level. Another issue is that if you're planning like so many do on KZfaq and going with the draw-through style? Your journal shaft turbo is not long for the world. Buick found all this out when they were designing their first turbo engines before electronic fuel injection. They had to have Garrett build them a specialized turbo for use in the draw-through system. Because of the prior mentioned above. Unlike superchargers, a turbocharger was never designed nor intended to handle any or much negative pressures on the compressor side. The oiling system was just one of many hurdles that Garrett had to try and overcome with the custom designed new turbo. But even though they were able to mostly work out the oil and vacuum issues? This also came at a price that shortened the lifespans of the new designs before they would start to leak internally. However it's your project, and you do you Sir......I'm just trying to control the crash your about to have. Good luck my man. 😉
@hassejohansson36173 жыл бұрын
Good work mate looks cool.
@Classicmotorbikes3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the kind words
@remfanuk19703 жыл бұрын
came across your channel...i am doing a bandit special and liking the idea of a turbo too...good work keep it up...sub'd now.
@Classicmotorbikes3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the Sub Remfanuk1970. how are you getting on with your project?
@8713Thomas3 жыл бұрын
Definitely have a pipe coming out just behind the foot pegs!
@Classicmotorbikes3 жыл бұрын
Hey Tom, I really like this idea, someone suggested making it modular so it’s easy to change and I think I’ve come up with a plan that could work well.
@8713Thomas3 жыл бұрын
@@Classicmotorbikes excellent! I love it when a plan comes together! I can’t wait to see it on KZfaq. Great work again.
@Classicmotorbikes3 жыл бұрын
Cheers Tom 😎
@richardwoodhouse83979 ай бұрын
Slash 😮
@tomdickharryjane3 жыл бұрын
Finished part 4. Still hanging on, what did you find with cylinder 4 carburetor preventing it from running well in part 2???? You're killin' me, smalls! For the exhaust, I say keep it simple. Go with a 45 out the turbo to start. Save the second flange until you get it running. Then, you can redesign if sound levels require it.
@Classicmotorbikes3 жыл бұрын
Hi Tomdickjaneharry I replied to your other comment about the carbs, turns out the butterfly was completely closed on no4, adjusted it like you would when balancing the carbs and now it runs great 👍 I’ve got a plan together for the exhaust with suggestions from the comments, I’m going to try and make something modular, should be interesting!
@tomdickharryjane3 жыл бұрын
@@Classicmotorbikes Cool, thanks. Sorry for asking again when aswered. I am curious then how did you notice on editing? I did not see anything wrong when I watched the video. Looking forward to the rest of the videos!
@Classicmotorbikes3 жыл бұрын
tomdickharryjane when editing the video I have a clip that didn’t end up in the video of me moving the carbs and you could see a bit of light behind the other butterfly’s on the other carbs but not no4
@tomdickharryjane3 жыл бұрын
@@Classicmotorbikes Makes sense, thanks.
@russellhale76943 жыл бұрын
Exhaust under the engine and exit at the footrest would look good to me.
@Classicmotorbikes3 жыл бұрын
I like the idea, I think this will be my preferred style 👍
@ideey13 жыл бұрын
Full exhaust system..
@Classicmotorbikes3 жыл бұрын
I like the idea of a full system for a for MOT time, what sort of end can would you use?
@BanditK3 жыл бұрын
Can I suggest a full delkevic exhaust system
@mellfacioli88982 жыл бұрын
Boa noite meu amigo belo projeto eu tbm tenho uma Bandit 1200n montei um kit turbo nela porém estou com dificuldade na entrada e retorno do olho vc pode me ajudar dês de ja muito obrigado
@martin.53363 жыл бұрын
Full exhaust system keep the standard look.
@Classicmotorbikes3 жыл бұрын
I’ve got a feeling I’ll go for a full system, try and go for that sleeper look, well as much I can with a turbo behind the front wheel!
@martinj9251 Жыл бұрын
Did you back purge the headers when welding, Nice weilding to be fair
@TheMotospot263 жыл бұрын
I’m all for a stealth look, so a full exhaust, yes a turbo isn’t exactly stealth but if it doesn’t scream at you people aren’t going to think twice
@Classicmotorbikes3 жыл бұрын
I like your thinking Andy, might make life easier when it’s due an MOT as well.
@Kurbits3 жыл бұрын
Make a full system or at least past the footrest.
@Classicmotorbikes3 жыл бұрын
I think I’m going on make something modular as someone suggested, I’ve got a plan to get one behind the footrest and a full system 👍
@joshsutcliffe60993 жыл бұрын
I need to find a manifold for my 2000 bandit 1200s
@KamdinRFrostАй бұрын
What would you charge me to build me a set of turbo headers??? Bandit 12 aswell mk1
@joshsutcliffe60992 жыл бұрын
Mine is hitting the top brace. I can't get the two center pipes to seal up because of it
@mrbanditoh44363 жыл бұрын
@Classicmotorbikes did you install the mk2 1200 3 piston front brakes? was there anything you had to do or did they just bolt right up? thanks!!
@markstewart78883 жыл бұрын
Full system, keep it sleeperish lol
@Classicmotorbikes3 жыл бұрын
I am a fan of a sleeper, not sure how much of a sleeper it will be with a turbo sat behind the front wheel 😂 but I think that’s the look I’ll go for.
@austin_94gt186 ай бұрын
Im sure there are others watching like me that would pay for a set of custom headers if you ever decided to build them for people to purchase.
@deanknight3396 Жыл бұрын
Hi Every time I see a turbo bandit it has the real short open header is that important? So for instance I hand this bandit turbo. With a longer pipe could I fit a exhaust can up the tail end or is this a no no I’m very curious???
@JustinNoury6 ай бұрын
Where can I get the turbo and exhaust mount? Also can I do this on a 2009 1250s?
@JustRockin3 жыл бұрын
Hey dude, great work. You seem very nice too! Any updates feasible yet? 🙂
@Classicmotorbikes3 жыл бұрын
Hey Buddy, Thanks for the kind words, I’m just making the next video as I type, should be here soon!
@Dominantliveband903 Жыл бұрын
Please I have issues with my s1250 Bandit engine getting locked while trying to start, so I open the side cover trying to turn the engine opposite side so still get lock after two turns. Please can you help me to know what could possibly be the cause?
@richardwoodhouse83979 ай бұрын
Starter clutch
@paulbudford3 жыл бұрын
Build something that's not going to burn your foot. 😉
@Classicmotorbikes3 жыл бұрын
Good shout Paul 😛
@architude Жыл бұрын
I'm not subbed and neither am I looking for a Part 05 to this pet of of yours, now at two years old upload date, but straight out 45deg with a slash cut brother. Boo Yah.
@jpich853 жыл бұрын
What turbo are you using mate? The td04 seem like the one but not sure which version, are you planning on external wastegate?
@Classicmotorbikes3 жыл бұрын
Hey buddy, I wasn't sure about what model to use, I think I've got the smallest one a 13t, but from the research I've done people have used most of the different models on a bandit 1200. This turbo will just for me to try out having a turbo bike, my plan is to upgrade and learn more of the science so I can make a better turbo system. For this setup I won't be using an external wastegate, but I might look at it on a future kit.
@jpich853 жыл бұрын
@@Classicmotorbikes thanks mate, I'm hoping to start my project too next year and have been doing a load of research, are you putting busa pistons in this build, I don't think there definitely needed for boost below 8psi but I was advised to do that upgrade as the engine won't last too long on the stock pistons, how are you planning on controlling the boost? I haven't found out how to mod internal wastegates yet but obviously external ones come with different rate springs, thanks for your reply mate
@Classicmotorbikes3 жыл бұрын
Yeah my plan is to use Busa pistons from the start so if I decide to turn up the boost I don’t have to worry. I think you can get different actuators for the internal wastegate so you can alter the boost that way without a external one, but I need to look into it more. I’ve just seen your message Instagram, will speak to you more on there 👍
@jpich853 жыл бұрын
@@Classicmotorbikes nice one mate 👍
@pantysnifer9273 жыл бұрын
When I can't gead my "head(er) in a "whole" easily I also wiggel a little bit...
@Classicmotorbikes3 жыл бұрын
Good to know.... I think! 😮
@shaunsk8ordie3 жыл бұрын
Teardrop
@Classicmotorbikes3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the input Bronson, I hope I get it right first go as I don’t have many 90 degree bends
@user-ui4jf4gi3i2 ай бұрын
You good man Good luak
@gualbertoserrano52052 жыл бұрын
greetings, I find it impressive for your work, congratulations. how can I contact you for future projects,