I found you the other week and just watching someone genuinely enjoy the hobby made me happy enough to crack out the old paint set and I've started repainting the start painting chaos box set, keep up the good work Jay!!

I've been watching this channel soooo much and, Jay's love of space marines and basing has inspired me to dust off my old tactical squad (literally over 15 years old) and get them prepped and based ready for painting. You guys are doing a great job and never fail to entertain, thanks guys.

In Rogue Trader nids had something similar to zombies, the Mind-Slaver "In its larval stage the parasitic Mind-Slaver feeds upon the Tyranid's captives. It burrows into the victim's skull and searches for the brain stem. Here it clasps in place with its legs and attaches itself to the base of the brain. At first the immature creature is not powerful enough to influence its host but, as it feeds from the blood stream, it becomes stronger, allowing it to take over and direct all of the creature's higher brain functions. These victims are known as mind slaves. Although they are captives, their actions and thoughts are completely controlled by the Tyranids. If the ship is attacked, the mind slaves will be amongst the first to move to its defense, especially if they belong to an armed warrior race whose fighting skills may be usefully employed by the Tyranids. Invaders will find themselves being attacked by sentient beings controlled by the Hive Mind including Space Marines, Chaos Space Marines, Imperial Guard, Orks and Eldar."

Genestealers are like candy corn, circus peanuts, or those awful strawberry candies from your grandparents house. A single massive run of them was made decades ago, and we have been passing them back and forth every since.

I think you’ve done a remarkable job of describing the Gellerpox Infected. God, what great models.

I love those shelves in the background!

Oh man that Jabba palace was the first models i ever had!! Loved it so much

Probably they will do the easiest thing ever, they will took an assault intercessors box and they will add with an upgrade the new jump pack and some weapon options

I would like them to keep the retro models around. Primaris look so similar to me. Firstborn units are all distinctive and different while Primaris are kinda just marines with varying levels of chunk in their armour. They also look more clean and modern which doesn't suit warhammer for me.

I like primaris but I want them to incorporate terminators and land raiders into the line

Those Ash Waste Nomads look awesome! Easily the coolest looking gang for Necromunda so far IMHO.

Wow can't believe you found that Jabba set. I had the Hoth one and that was purchased over 30 years ago! Nothing beats the dusty old model shop experience for me, always some treasure in there.

GW does 3d printed protoypes btw, all the ones you see in reveals are 3d printed

Tyrannic war vets etc were sort of in odd spot and I'd love if I could have a spiritual successor in a new veteran truescale "firstborn" facing off against tyranids. Take me back to my infancy in Battle of Macragge

I’m a little shocked that 8 and 9 got so high a rating. Especially 9 how it’s literally a mishmash of stuff pulled out of nowhere to try and slam through a full conclusion when it was left to pick up the pieces of 8 (where no matter your opinion of it, not a lot of story advancement occurs)

You should definitely get into necromunda, the narrative rpg elements would make for interesting battle reports. Plus so much flexibility and only need 10 models for a gang. So many cool models too, including gsc.

I can't believe you named all those star wars characters and forgot about Glup Shitto! He's like the most iconic star wars character ever.

Just refresh them, and make them primaris size. A lot of us use primaris models for our tactical marines and so on.

Hope you're having fun at the con.

It's 3D printed btw :) you can see the print lines on the gun body, barrel, and magazine. Maybe that's why you get a "resin" feel?

One of the main creators of gorkamorka said initially the idea was to have mad max style game on necromunda. The interview is on midwinter minks channel as a retro gorkamorma unboxing.

Its not generally known that the production painting team 'eavy metal' oftenly paint a resin mockup rather than the plastic production kit for 'front of box'. This is normally that the plastics are not ready in th schedule. So it is likely that the models on website and on box you see are resin but will be representative of the final plastic kit.

Nice to meet you Thurs at Adepticon. I was the guy pushing my brother in the wheelchair.

Couldn’t sleep so I’m really grateful for this early morning upload

I just wanted you to know 18:01, you said “Luke’s pod racer” and Luke was never in a pod racer in any of the films. Also knee pad configuration is what I look for in all my models. Haha!! Great video! I’m glad the classic intro is back

Some cool ideas here. I know nothing is confirmed but it looks from the photos like the Horus Heresy marines are going to be more true scale than the old first born marines. As you point out, keeping true scale first born marines in a separate gaming system is probably the best way to appease everyone. And to be fair I don’t even think you need to make new models for Mk7 armour - just trim the ridges off the knee pads on Primaris models and give them a 1st born helmet and they look basically the same as Mk7 marines anyway.

They could just re release the space marine heroes tactical marines but make a couple more weapon options. That'd be fine for the most part, and would be the least effort thing they could do. So I could see them doing it.

Holy fuck guys, you are posting video after video! Nice work, subscribed because of amounts of quality content you guys are giving away!

Ash Wastes Nomads would make for great Savlar Chem-Dogs army, they even got Chem-Riders!

Make a video of the throne room man ! It will do great !!

The more true-scale firstborn are going to be in that Horus Hersey box and I wouldn't be surprised if they use the legions units to replace Tactical Marines. Now, I'd be game for some upscaled Terminators (especially some new Grey Knight sculpts), but I'm probably selfish for wanting that.

I think what will probably happen is if you want to play First Born Space Marines you'll play Horus Heresy, but if you don't care or like Primaris you'll stick with 40k, basically cutting the SM player base between two different games.

Imo the best way to phase out since the story is pushing forward is through attrition. Retire Scouts, Tac Marines (not vets untill later). Move to specialists like Devistators and Assault Marines. Then Elites like Vanguard and Sternguard. It's like as time goes on the Firstborn that are still around are slain or survive long enough to progress. It also helps alleviate the pain of going from Firstborn to Primaris for someone like me with around 10k of Dark Angels I've been on and off collecting for 20 years lol.

I just watched you for the first time and you really look super happy doing this. I love your Energy bro! You make me wanna be friends with you

Tuscan Raiders! Hide the truffled white balsamic vinegar!

Dammmmm you inspired me ... I'm taking different gangs from necromunda and GSC bash em up for my wyrmblade kill team ... Ganger bodies Gene stealer heads and weapons dammmmm I'm hitting the notebook now to write it up thank you !!! .... Your vids are great by the way

"Undead Tyranids" So Necromorphs from Dead Space. Tyranids (Necromorphs), Gene Stealer Cults (Unitologists). Dead Space themed army I've been imagining for ages.

Necromunda has genestealers, orks, and other non native enemies. It's just so terrible and violent there that the Nobles, Imperial Fists, and Gangs keep them in check

I’m all for expanding Tyranids! Let’s get some zombie alien bugs.

I wonder if they've been saving the Space Marine Killteam box set for the release of Horus Heresy.. it would be pretty boring for non space marine players to have two Space Marine groups in one box but I would lose my mind with happiness

I definitely recommend necromunda, and it’s so unique!

Just let the community keep making true scale astartes. So much better than anything my homie gw could do

At this point, I'm just gonna convert all my marines for Horus Heresy

Those ash world minis are gonna make some decent DG cultists...

The one thing that makes the old tacticals is the full modularity and thus insane kitbash potential. If they make them just like the primaris they should not bother.

Cheeky little starships trooper box in back

Its funny hearing you talk about wanting new tactical marines and genestealer/ tyranid sets. I'm just getting back into wh40k. But when I first played the starter set was Battle for Macragge, which was basically just a tactical squad vs some genestealers and a few other tyranid units. It would be interesting to see a re-release/update of that exact set.

A Necron Cynoptek drone team of robo bugs and such that take over bodies and such could be such an enemy without being too Flood-like.

If you at all like narratives Jay, you have to get into Necromunda.

Put so much effort into it that people would swear it was assembled by someone who was at skill level 2.5!

I keep dreaminng of another rogue trader or inquisitional retinue kill team

Tyranid Brain leechs is the thing that makes zombies.

They have a unique marine killteam, it's the Deathwatch veteran killteam

Personally, I’m hoping for a new Space Hulk box with Primaris terminators vs new genestealers. Also predict Space marines kill team box will be Primaris scouts.

Yes! And true scale Terminators!

I am so new to 40k primaris were already pretty large in number. I don’t mind sticking there but I do really like the terminators so unless they keep them or make a primaris size terminator option, I don’t want to lose the firstborn. Yes it’s all pretty much for the termies that I want the old ones to hang around.

Marines aside, please paint your Jabbas palace model kit on live stream. But the catch is you cannot talk about StarWars..

Nooo, don't phase out the original marines! Until they upgrade intercessors to have various weapon options like the tacticals, we need tacticals for their versatile weapon loadouts. Thing is, can't one use the upcoming new plastic Horus Heresy stuff as new beaky tacticals?

Jay really throwing out the based Star Wars takes here

Great models for chaos cultist as well.

It might be a nostalgic thing, but I prefer the scale and bulkiness of the first born marines.

Your tyranid talk gave me an idea, what about a way to play kill team where it's a kill team vs a big bad. So like marines vs a GSC patriarch like in the blood angels animation

I broke all my old marines down used the parts to make them primarus turned out awesome

I love this it keeps me up to date with the war hammer community

Primaris look cool, I do collect and like them. I also love me some firstborn and they should not rotate out though. They should be remade with HH 2.0 to fit in scale- and proportion-wise with primaris. Don't take them away from people who love them. Kudos for rating episode I and III, would be above 7-9 for me, since I was what I grew up with and III is just epic.

Those new ash wasteland kits would be nice to add to GorkaMorka,booster-rivals for the digganobz..

You know whats missing in Killteam 21? Terminators ... so Terminators vs Genestealers and BAM ... Killteam : Spacehulk

One idea is to do a Kill Team Version of Space Hulk with Blood Angel Terminators and Gene Stealers.

All I see when looking at those new nomad models is the perfect recreation of the dopesmoker album art from sleep and I need them in my life

I love the tactical Marines but it would suck if they where just decorated interssecors, but it would be cooler if they where just a smidge short than interssecors yet taller that our current tactical Marines.

Here's the video and the part of it where Jay talks about his Pod Racer: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/odp1l9Kf1M7cgYk.html

Genestealer Cults need good ol RT Cult Limousine.

Whenever I see the rhino I think that "they hide in metal boxes"

The tyranid zombie idea is interesting. I dont think it fits their cannon though. The genestealer cult is effectively said zombies.

Getting rid of the original founding Marines is like putting your grandparents on an ice flow and pushing them away. It's just wrong. Proper rule tweeks would keep them relevant. And the new Primarus lore lends itself well to both marine types.

That looks just like a store near me on Long Island

I think that Star Wars Tier list is gonna cause a ruckus on the stream tomorrow night.

zombie nids? look at star wars where the geonosians queens have larve that can ocupy a person and take control of them even if the person is dead (they effectively can reanimate geonosians

Let's go full halo mode. Have hordes against a highly adaptable, versatile super soldier!! Like kill team where it's like 20 to 1

Never been this early for anything in my life

New cool primaris stuff???? Laaaaaame ! To me the true marines will be those with the rhinos and landwaiders

I think they should lean into the tactical squad, either give it a ton of cool weapons or something like that, otherwise they can just buff some classic SM units and that should work with plastic refreshes over time

I'm pretty sure the recent announced mk6 marines might end as a kill team on white dwarf. But of they don't I don't mind my kill team is already true scale old school tactical marines

Empire was by far the best in my opinion followed on by New Hope as second best.

Man watching this video after seeing the Adepticon reveals really hits different

Space Marine models to me always seemed weird. These guys would have thiiiick thighs (love some thick thighs) but for some reason they flare out the calf armor instead like they have bellbottoms on.

Thing thats throwing you off is that its because that guy is a 3D print. All the new models they showed off were painted versions of their prototype models. You can see the print lines on the gun. The new beaky boy has some print lines on his legs, and so on but yeah that was what was messing with you.

they'll have to pry my mark 4 marines from my cold dead hands

I won't lie I was expecting "you know who would be great at fighting disgusting zombies? THAT'S RIGHT, OUR PATREON"

They could reprint space hulk and call it a kill team set I would instantly buy it

I think they should make two Codexes. One for Firstborn and one for Primaris. And if you want a primaris sized Tactical Squad just stick the old heads and weapons on intercessors and use them. They all have two wounds now... sooooo just do it ^^

The Ash Waster is definitely plastic...there’s a whole team, some big bug riders, and some Hive explorers on dune buggies...

I still run Vanguard Veterans with Shields and Jump Packs in my Black Templar army. Super fast, durable, dish out some damage and go beautifully with the Primaris Chaplain on Bike

Love your videos, but how dare you have the Sequals touch Empire strikes back in you list?

Give me a new space hulk. I'd drop like $500 for one of those if they could deliver on the quality.

Luck for you, new tactical squad. But bird

I'd like to see Harlequin Mimes KT

I am pretty sure First Born will just be 2 kits soon. Box 1: Tac, Dev, Company. Box 2: VGV, Assault, Stern. PS, Bring back a special Movie Marines style unit. Oh Zombie nids you say? I used to have a 5th Combat Patrol army I took to events for best army that was Zombie nids, It was 30 Gants, Terivgon, Warrior Prime, and a unit of Hive Give. They were black/green ish grey, with bright green blood, lots of battle damage and mud bases with gants cut up coming out of the mud with tomb stones. Super fun to play as well. I really miss that army and 5th CP rules.

One thing that should be fixed are rhe unit names. Intercessors for example, what's even that supposed to be? Just call primaris tactical marines.

I play necromunda and it is awesome!!!