THIS. I see SO MANY trans women INSISTING that every trans fashion influencer start a clothing line so that they'll "finally" have clothing that fits their trans body, when the reality is 1) there are plenty of cis women with your exact proportions and 2) most women are fed up with trying to find clothing that fits them and makes them feel confident and fashionable. You aren't having trouble figuring out your size in women's jeans because you're trans, you're having trouble because women's clothing sizes aren't standardized and finding a well-fitting pair of women's jeans is so life changing that someone wrote a whole YA novel series about it! (Okay, not quite what the series was about; it's "The Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants" series if you don't know what I'm referencing!) Genuinely, humans are relatively low on the hormone-based dimorphism scale; we might not be as uniformly shaped as house cats, but it's not like we're as different as angler fish, either! Pick a style influencer who has a similar build (and skin tone and hair texture for makeup and hair care!) as you and start by following their advice, regardless of them being cis or trans, and you'll probably find brands and styles that suit you far more quickly than begging the handful of trans girl influencers (who have completely different proportions than you!) for advice.

Yeah I'm a cis girl but my body type isn't the stereotypical dainty/small type, yet I'm not chubby either. This video is a big help for choosing what pieces would work best on my body type ngl

Yeah, I'm not sure why exactly, but it feels like a lot of women's clothing is made for proportions that even a lot of cis women don't possess in terms of a narrow torso and thin arms. I'm told that my cis sister has that same problem, so some cis women ALSO just have wider shoulders and/or ribcages, thicker arms, etc. than women's clothing tends to account for. I'm not sure if this is just misogyny ingrained in the fashion industry (much like fake pockets or lack thereof) or related to the fact that a lot of clothing tends to be made in China where people's bodies are smaller on average or what, but it doesn't ONLY affect trans women.

@Nejove Smaller sizes mean less fabric, plus plenty of places are using the same pattern for all sizes and scaling it up and down to make smaller and larger clothes, but human bodies don't work like that: a person who is 30% taller won't have a 30% wider ribcage, and same for going down in size. Even worse, the way fabric is cut is often using giant "cookie cutter" stamp cutters or guillotine blades on a stack of fabric at the same time, which, especially for stretchy fabrics, causes the stack to warp as pressure is applied, making every single piece in the same cut sliiightly off from the original cut pattern, getting worse the farther down the stack you go. Add in that cheap labor means worse stitching and thus using up more fabric in uneven hems, and all around it's a recipe for disaster for actually making clothes that fit.

Judy

ITS ME BITCH. I recommend searching “Flamboyant natural” if you have broad shoulders and are tall. It will give many ideas and inspo.

nah this isnt really true sorry, im transsexual and theres basically no women with shoulders as wide or torsos as long as mine

@@rationalbimbo8811 bodies are incredibly diverse. also, advice for women with broad shoulders applies to all women with broad shoulders, trans or not. the idea is to minimize the appearance of the broad shoulders with clothing. the essence of the advice should still work

@@rationalbimbo8811 There are - female athletes often do.

@@w0033944 you have no idea what i look like

I always think they are actually called Finn 😭

​@@ABoxOfCartonJuicesameee

It’s the same as when a youtubers partner calls their partner by their full name instead of their nickname

I genuinely forgot that was F1nn’s legal name, I was very confused for a solid 30 seconds..

I didn’t know that was fins real name 😭😭😭 I mean i figured it out bc of context clues but thank you for confirming it

She's like, "I feel like this cluster of fashion choices is cringe, and strangers on the internet should enforce that by making other people feel bad." Not really sure what she gets out of that...

Heck, I do both.

Well if you wear thigh highs and and skirt you only have to shave the bit part that is exposed, bonus points if you are very hairy you can just go without actual socks and just have permanent hair thigh high socks

or long skirts, like ankle length. much more "mature adult" looking and you can skip the tights

when i wear tights i still should shave my legs because hair can be seen through them😭😭😭

or just wear tights cuz u like the way they look on ur legs and not to hide something we all have :D to each their own ofc

@UTTPW Not exactly the same, but I have "half ankle" socks that come up just a little bit further. Because leggings typically stop at the ankle, IMO they pair well with socks that end near there.

This was huge for me. Leggings are so much comfier than socks, why aren't leggings part of the baby trans outfit?

yeah semi-opaque tights are a really nice way to get some color in there without being as over the top as the striped socks. Brightly printed leggings do well for something more fun but sophisticated as well.

Being able to look back and cringe means growth. Good work!

@@bakerfx4968yes totally! That’s always my mindset and I‘m actually happy that I‘m cringing at my past self.

honestly, the world needs more recognition for trans issues. i think everyone should know that transitioning is a struggle and that it’s not easy. so you don’t have to cringe at your baby trans self wearing a pink skirt at the office. it was a service to all trans people. i did it too, all of us did cringey things, odds are some are doing it right now.

i still love my baby trans outfits tbh...

​@@qtpaulie Don't listen to this video, just be yourself. We already have it hard enough-it's the world that needs to change. The world is cringe. Changing ourselves to work around others' idea of "cringe" is usually what had us in the closet to begin with. Here we just have another cringe loser telling us how to be, what to wear, etc.

@ville__wtf

@@bobuxstudios5783 That's a bot, don't worry about it.

@@bobuxstudios5783I assume they are fishing for attention?

@@bobuxstudios5783I’m pretty sure that’s a bot. I’ve been reporting it for spam. It posts the same trash under every video. Charlie, frogbait, etc

For reeaalllllll

the editor was icky all along!!

Editor is goated with the sauce 🐐

I like you and your style Icky

Yesss, Asher is such a good editor

Same here. My mom was VERY harsh when I tried to wear anything remotely Baby Trans Phase-y. Until I move out my wardrobe consists of baggy t-shirts and jeans. Thankfully I'm two years in so it still looks like Girl. Just very casual and not pretty

i have a bunch of socks from the costume shop ive collected over the past two years, but literally nothing to wear them with. like i still dont own a skirt

As far as I can tell, Icky thinks that I'm not passing well enough to pull off the bisexual colors e-girl look. She calls it "baby trans" if you like the aesthetic but aren't a super model influencer cis woman. /hot take

@@nathanpetrich7309 I strongly disagree that this is what Icky is saying. It’s not about passing. The baby trans or bisexual e-girl look is highly marked, and most people will choose to move past that at some point. This is advice on how to move past it. Icky doesn’t seem the type to say that you can’t adopt that look, if that’s the look you want

When I heard their name I was like “who tf is Ju- ohhhh wait, F1nn.”

I'm just surprised she referred to Finn as Jude, since she said she calls her Finn. Clearly that changed~ lol

Flared* 🩷🩷🩷

I smell a new series!

Sounds fun but I don’t want to be mean to anyone 😭

@@bigicky I honestly would rly love helpful criticism. But I understand the concern

@@bigickyif people submit them knowing what they’re doing I don’t think that’s mean. A lot of people could likely benefit from hearing what you think of how they dress haha

@bigicky girl people would literally pay you to be mean to them lol.

Secretary-core. 😂 I don't know how I got here, I am a trans man, but I too attest to dorky secretary powerdressing. By the grace of god, I didn't have to learn bowties don't suit me the hard way. And bonus! If you tell your fellow queers it's dark academia, they'll think you're stylish!

"It would take a number beyond reckoning, _thousands_ to fix baby trans." "Tens of thousands." "But my lord there is no such force..."

@416hobbit "Mithranicky" Shining with the radiance of our most beloved star. (and she didn't even need the vial)

I'm in sort of the same boat. I went through a pseudo baby trans phase when i was in my femboy phase and experimenting with fem clothes before I realized i was trans. Now that i'm actually out though, i just... dont really want to look like that. Not that looking like that is bad, but i just dont want to. Honestly, Ickys videos and advice have helped a lot in feeling confident in my trans-ness even if i'm wearing baggy jeans or a big jacket or other things like that

@@goldayne4518 I’m glad you’re feeling confident in yourself!! I skipped femboy phase and did a little dressing up in private before my egg fully shattered, but since it has I’ve only been buying clothes I could see myself actually wearing out in public. These vids have guided me soooo much when searching for that kinda clothing

Haha... it is easier than ever now to learn all things beauty and fashion super quickly. But at the same time... you will still have that phase where you are figuring out what works for you, your personal style, what fits the best. It takes YEARS and years for personal style to evolve. So don't be too hard on yourself if you don't nail it first try.

I'd really love her to do a fashion video more built around cold weather. Which is weird to say, because I'm Australian so to me England is very cold, but most of her outfits are honestly not warm enough for me in winter.

Is she the town?

@@owlmity and everyone's voice too

Bucket?

brisket?

Basket?

this!!

@ville__ HUH?!

@@casketbacethese bots are everywhere

@ville__ - Yout copypasta is about as edgy as a tennis ball.

so doc ock in spiderverse?

Yeah, I was like "Jude? who's Jude" lmao

Jude is the editor, right? 😅

Didn't even know Finn had a real name.

Like if a cheese grater was a huge noisy truck where the back is a massive cheese grater, driving by in the street?

​@@lichtsprecher nah......

I know, but it’s literally day one so it’s very possible that in like a week and a half… things are much less exciting after the honeymoon phase of starting it. It’s always just so freaking great when you restart lol

​@mildmannered1086 it's because amphetamine feels amazing and you need to build up a tolerance to purely get the medical effects When you start stimulants you are basically just tweaking for a week or two

Same, but also, dyeing hair and wearing complex outfits are just higher-maintenance. That's why it's a cultural norm, because adults are often busy and don't want to put effort into that sort of thing.

I'm 62 and wear hair dye and an alt/goth wardrobe, lol!

@@darlalathan6143 That's awesome! You would definitely make me smile if I saw you around

of course it's a cultural norm. she said about 3 million times to just ignore this advice if you don't care or don't want to do it. but if your goal is not to stand out and to fit in, then her advice is 100% correct.

​@@overgrownkudzu If your goal is to not stand out and just fit in, you need to change the world, not your wardrobe. Acceptance doesn't come from wearing the right clothes, just ask a cis woman.

@ville__ you'd know, huh, you weirdo

@ville__ first stop being a bigot and second stop watching CSAM then we can talk

Tell me you're a PDF file downloader without telling me ​@ville__

@ville__ ah the last refuge of someone who knows they got caught out lol and lmao

​@@dragonshardzthis guy a bot, don't bother responding these comments are on loads of videos I've seen

@ville__ …what???😭😭

@ville__ sure ^^

@ville__ I don’t have any ankle socks yet no, but I should probably get some to wear with my new outfit I tend to wear tights pretty much all the time so I haven’t looked into getting ankle socks just yet

Or another would be to get an oversized zip up hoodie and have it only halfway zipped up so that it drapes off one shoulder. It does a good job of hiding belly if you’re insecure about that (i definitely am) but it also pulls the sweater up so it looks kinda cropped to enhance curves :)

@ville__ sure! :D

@UTTPW im on instagram and twitter but i dont really post on them, but i do use them lots otherwise. It’s not fashion tips tho, maybe I would do that on twitter sometime in the future idk 🤷‍♀️ same @ btw

@UTTPW yea

@UTTPW no, not really. They only do if my feet are really sweaty and im wearing socks/shoes that are too big. The smaller sizes don’t 👍🏽

#1 There's no age limit on fashion, but there is kind of a point where "dressing young" will draw people's attention. And you know. Puberty is kind of a sensitive time. Sometimes you want some privacy for the struggle. #2 It's not a bad look, but it's a specific look. Cis adult women rarely wear that combination. We don't all have to look like The Cis though, they're not the arbiters of good taste. I have at least one friend who lives and works solely with queers, has no intention of integrating with cishet society, and dresses like that as a queer fashion choice.

cardigans can be great :) even a looser more casual looking one

also look up a french tuck! I love doing that with my tops. Gives it less of a boxy shape and creates more interest in the outfit

I looked some up a few weeks ago hoping there would be an Etsy shop for adult twinkle toe style sneakers 😢 and I decided I’m going to make my own with some converse!! 🩷🩷 they might not glow when I jump though :(

You may have one *hug*

@ville__ Jesus is the way my friend.

@ville__ Hahahah I would give you one of those Long tight hugs!! I love hugs. And we can be friends for sureee ^.^ Hi friend!

@UTTPW Hmmmm not really that many sich I have high top shoes or heels, I like frill socks ^.^ Or knee high socks, or fishnet tights, love those!!!

@UTTPW I am 6 feet tall. I still rock heels ^.^ because I am slender and I dont care hahah

100%

@UTTPW I have a few yes

She literally said she stole some from finn in the vid

There's nothing wrong with the baby trans outfit, it's a classic for a reason, this video is moreso presented as the next steps to improve and mature that look a bit.

Right theres nothing wrong with it and im so excited to try it😆

I became The Lord of the Schwings. 😂

Me, who looks like a fridge on two legs: 😢

I'm not Ashley, but: "how to make sure the quality is good": It's not. "how to check if the clothes fit": You can't. These are the realities of both online shopping and shopping for clothing sold for women in general, unfortunately! You know those jokes about women taking forever to buy clothes and spending so much time trying on clothes and looking at outfits on social media? It's because women's sizing is inconsistent on purpose (helps keep you buying from the same brand that you know fits you already) and because consumer goods quality is currently declining rapidly across all categories, and it only gets worse the cheaper the item is. To get clothes that fit while on a budget, you need to know your measurements in either inches or centimeters by using a measuring tape or looking up the size guide for clothes you already own, look at the size guide for everything you buy, and only buy from stores that you can easily return things to. You can still shop online! Just pick somewhere that has locations close to you for in-store returns or has an actually easy return process. For me, this means shopping at Walmart (I'm American). I can order multiple sizes and colors of the same thing, try them on at home with zero judgement from anyone, and then return them to my local store. Yes, that means a real person flipping through my returns and seeing what was purchased, BUT you can absolutely LIE about why you have them if it makes you feel safer! I have a separate email address for the Walmart account I do my clothes shopping on, and I can use that email address for the return. If anyone asks (which, no one has yet!), I can "explain" that my aunt bought them and asked me to return them for her. This works for me because I don't live in a small town, but I know others might not be able to get away with this, and so will need to do an online return (where no one can see what's in the box you're returning) instead. For Ali Express, Wish, Temu, whatever, you're far more likely to get a terrible quality item that doesn't even match the picture from the listing because none of those items are sold in a physical store where people can actually try them on. For Walmart/Target/whatever is similar for you, their branded clothing (which, I know Walmart online does host some dodgy sellers, so still be cautious!) actually goes out on a sales floor and has to actually look and feel good to in-person shoppers, so they get away with a lot less. They'll still have messed up stitching and clothes that fall apart after a single wash, it's just less likely for their clothes to have these problems compared to online-only retailers. This is why I no longer shop at even Amazon, because there's no way to actually judge any given item in person. While these stores might cost a bit more per item, you're going to save money by not having a pile of crap that doesn't fit and you can't return to Temu/Wish/Shein/etc. As for general outfit advice, pick any given cis fashion content creator that has a style you like and follow them! There will probably be things they don't think to mention because they assume everyone knows them, whereas a trans creator would be more likely to assume ignorance, but on the whole they're gonna give you the exact same advice as you would get from a trans creator, because at the end of the day you probably have the exact same struggles with finding clothes you like that cis women do! Women's clothing has so many options that, even when the designers aren't just straight up lying to you about how it'll look when you order it, it can still be hard for anyone to sort through the mountain of possibilities to find stuff that you feel comfortable and confident in. I can just about guarantee that any issue you feel like you're having because you're trans (body shape concerns, confusion over sizing, matching outfits to appropriate occasions, etc) is something a cis woman has experienced and also already asked reddit for help with!

@UTTPW I do although I prefer thigh highs >:3

Maybe it's a super power