Definitely make a vid for settings on Reverb G2 please!!!

Totally agree that settings need to be revisited periodically. So many dimensions to the sim and all are evolving with each update. I look forward to your next settings update.

Some very wise words... much appreciate your strong contribution to the community..

Yeh I'm glad you told us that, I think it's all ways in the back of our mind that for some reason you have it running ultra smooth and so we all end up chasing unobtainable levels of performance. It needed saying so we can consentrate efforts in the right place.

Great video. Looking forward to the HP Reverb G2 / MSFS VR settings update video 😊

Hello ^^ You can download a map in cache instead to stream it in real time. And you will see the difference. For windows update you can setup windows to use not all the bandwidth but just a part of your choice. Since yesterday I have less stutters with my gtx1070, it's incredible. Now I can put shadows without any difference. What is the recipe? I saw yesterday a German KZfaqrs who compare the % of CPU and GPU during stutters, all was bellow 50% even more. So he decided to remove all AI vehicles. And the magic happens. No more stuttering. So I removed my cars from 56% to 16% and I earned less stutters even near the ground. So it seems that the IA calculation for cars, boats, and planes take lot of threads who does stutters

You are 1000% correct! I run a high-end PC and in VR (G2). This sim is like my wife: one night it's pleasant and smooth, the next night, she's a complete disaster! 😂 You're correct in the case where the sim works brilliantly one day, and the next, turns to crap. No matter your internet speed or hardware! Keep up the good vids!

S-s-s-s-s-s-stutters are just s-s-s-s-s-something I've learned to l-l-l-live w-w-w-with! ;-)

Glad to see you using the G2 now & then 😉👍

Such a good vid, very helpful and 'sturdy' advice. A good mentality to maintain as I go about my tweaking. Thank you.

Steve, I really appreciate your remarks about upcoming 'settings' video -- and the struggle to create them, and keep them current with the quickly evolving realities of MSFS! I had just been longing for a 'fresh update', having just added a new 4090 card to my rig -- but still with the 5900X for my CPU. Your Intel/3090 set-up has been the closest I'm aware of to what I HAVE BEEN flying with, so your settings updates have been enormously helpful. Naturally, now that I have a 4090, I'm keen to milk the best performance out of it that I can. BUT, I find myself adrift in a sea of settings categories that I really do not understand, and am wasting a lot of time fiddling about with them, often not really understanding my results. So -- I'll be EAGERLY watching for your next update!! 💛

Quest2 is my headset. It's taken me a long time to realise I have to switch on oculus debug tool when I'm already in VR in the cockpit. Then PC asynchronous spacewarp to 45 FPS enable. Then file. Then restart as administrator. This is the only order I'm able to stop the stutters in VR.

One thing that helped me with performance: remove the fps counter! Play with the setting till you get a nice combination of performance/graphics without focusing on that counter to hit a specific number.

Great points, and I couldn't agree more. Just getting rid of the FPS counter helps a ton. Have a great weekend!

I'm a huge fan of motion reprojection. It's really a game changer provided it runs at least at half the native framrate. But I have to admit that SteamVR is better than OpenXR when it comes to looking left or right at fast moving objects. There is still some ghosting with OpenXR. SteamVR had some has well a few years ago, but managed to get rid of it. Ok I know I'm speaking of DCS , but that is an issue I'd really like to see out of OpenXR soon :-). VR kicks ass anyway !

Nice suggestions, I agree with them all, except one: I will never, never, never give in on Ultra clouds :D They're just too beautiful. Then: on my system (same as yours), Pico 4 has way less micro-stutters than the G2, even with WiFi connection, using exactly the same settings. Did you notice something similar?

Great tips as always. I’m constantly learning something about MSFS in VR watching your videos. Thanks!

Hags & DX11 with my 4090 is a definite yes with Windows 11 insider program, very visible multi core improved utilisation.

Great video Steve, pretty much nailed it all. One thing though you've said in the past was to disable hyperthreading, is that still an issue? I have this disabled and I'm not really sure if it needs to be in, I think it does improve microstutters but that may also be placebo effect. Another thing I would say it that for me at least, stutters are rare but I tend to 'introduce them' when I add third party content which hasn't been optimised, mapping DLC is notorious for this but also complex planes or enhancements mods to existing planes you just need to be a little bit careful. 👍

Yeah we would really benefit from a new settings guide for the VRs

When you get stutters, have you tried running DPC Latency checker to see where it might be coming from? :)

Came for the tips... Stayed for the Hellcat! 👀👀👀👀👀

My Old system: AMD 5900x running a 7900xt GPU and 32GB memory. Ran DCS perfectly at 144hz on my Valve Index. I decided to do a clean windows install to get ready for the new Nvidia 4090 GPU. I can't get DCS to run correctly at all. It stutters like you said when looking out the side. The 3d world seems like its falling behind what is actually happening. My machine is extremely fast but I can't even turn my graphics as high as it was. I never had stutters!! Now I have to turn the HZ to 80 just to try and play. Its unplayable at 90, 120, and 144hz now. So I built a completely new system and its doing the same thing. No one can figure it out either. So I think some of those people who have those stutters out the side, are having the same issue as me and I believe its software, not the HZ like you said.

Great video! I'm a new 4090 owner and thanks for this information! Looking forward to the specs guide you mentioned!

Hi Steve, you haven't stopped posting lately, I like it😉. As always another great video very indicative. One gets to go quite crazy with the issue of configuring the best possible VR. I have changed my i9 12990K for an i9 13900KF, I mount it next Monday, I hope to gain a few FPS. Good weekend friend, a big hug 👐 . P.S. I look forward to your configurations. What exactly do you mean by lowering the LOD to 145?

It's funny you are posting this today. I just had a bout of the stutters in the past few day (Quest 2 at 80hz using adaptive 1/2 refresh rate trying to hit 40fps). I just downloaded the 528.49 drivers and switched to DX 12, turned off rolling cache, and had a great flight. Asobo should create a profiling tool that tests a pc in different scenarios and provide recommended settings, or at least make a clear report of bottlenecks.

Very good video with great common sense advice

Thanks for this vid - we have all had issues in VR at some stage. Ive just noticed you in the new Burning Blue Designs Damyns Hall scenery. Good to see you in VR.😊👍

What about switch off holographicShell thing... this was my past problem fix.. hm.

Really good informative video Steve. Thanks mate.

Are the usage of programs like OpenXR Tools for Windows Mixed Reality & OpenXR Toolkit still beneficial? Using HP Reverb G2 and RTX 3080.

great advice, Steve one of your best videos yet!

Great video Steve, looking forward to the new setup guides that you said you will be doing soon.

The onlu things that improve stutter is motion reprojection, but it causes some distorcion

Interesting to hear you recommend HAGS enabled. I always heard that will mainly benefit those with rather weak hardware. While having it enabled if you're on a powerful computer will more likely have the opposite effect. There was an explanation why that is but unfortunately, I can't recall what the explanation was from the top of my head.

Would you use the same settings for dcs? Hags on or off? And resizable bar settings? I too am running 4090 13900

i find that dx12 works better for me in VR with the settings i use. i have a 4060ti 16gb but only an R5 5500 cpu at the moment which is my bottleneck. the game actually runs better in VR if i set my settings on high because it puts the load on the GPU rather than cpu as long as i lower my bitrate to give the cpu more time. terrain LOD as well. most everyone says to turn it down but after testing i found that if i turn it up i get less micro-stutters. i think its because it doesnt increase detail as it may sound, what it does is it loads a larger map into VRAM, which my 16gb can handle. and this gives my cpu more time between loads and i dont see terrain loading as i fly over it. i still get stutters and will until i upgrade my cpu but they are far between and only when i'm doing crazy flying like diving between buildings in New York.

Thank you for another great video, Steve. I have spent a lot of time trying to tweak my 4090 and i9-13900k, due to the stutters. I also experience having very different days in VR, some days great, other days bad. Having changed nothing. Glad I am not the only one. I agree that we need to turn off the FPS counter and just fly 👍🛩️ after I have learned something new from your settings video I have to try, of course 😂🤣

You've given me something to test/ think about when I get my replacement headset from Oculus. Cheers Steve :D - Ross Mackerracher

Dx12, at least the crashing issue with OpenXR Toolkit has been fixed, i think as of the latest version here in march 2023. Hags on can cause issues with those that use the TDS 750 integration (a pop up comes up on that). I can now do re-projection with the aero + 4090, i had major stutters at first in one region, turned out to be addon related. Very smooth 30 fps around NYC, otherwise about 54 without repro in the C310. Also, rolling cache being on can cause issues, to rule things out i just disable mine.

I had really bad stuttering and freezing after a Windows (10) update about a week ago, but since a sim update last night (which I assume is the SU12 beta) things have been still not right but much better. For anybody interested in the beta it did break my JustFlight aircraft (again) though (ctd on startup with them in the community folder), and I can no longer select any approach except 'automatic' for IFR flights.

Iv got a 2080ti and reducing graphics from high to medium,turning reflections and shadows to low and reducing traffic to 10% helps and doesnt effect the look to much,iv got it running smooth with reprojection.another tip is turn off online,city's will look abit generic but countryside still looks good and runs smoother

At least now with MR I’m not suffering lack of sync which was just so horrid prior to SU11 (I think). HP reverb G2 would simply not transition well from 45 down to 30 or 22.5 and it drove me bonkers. That problem is well in the past. Another top gear top tip would be that if you’re gonna mess with settings (for the millionth time we’ve all been there!) then use a control - ie same plane same location same weather same time of day 👍😊

It's been a long time since I've turned a Hag on!

Like you said, many times its your computer. Right now as i type this, my hard drive light is nearly solid. When i check in task mananger, all it shows it that Service host: Local system, is busy accessing the hard drive. Thank you Microsoft.

"Essential tip: if the game has very demanding technical requirements you shall lower the settings." OMG, how can anyone in the history of PC gaming never tried that?! I wasn't even aware that is even possible. I also heard there is another option: you can upgrade your hardware. I don't know whether anyone tried that, but looks like promising idea too.

Wil dcs multithreading work properly with directx 11?

Thanks for this video Steve! I would very much appreciate if you could make a short video showing your present MSFS settings. I have the Varjo AERO, RTX 4090 and the Intel Core i7 13700K. By the way, I also sometimes experience micro stutters. Rebooting the PC often helps.

The worst part about VR in MSFS for me is using the mouse to work cockpit switches and knobs. Its so jittery its like an old mouse with a dirty ball. (before laser mouses existed) The worst in game stutters I get is when loading or approaching large Photogrammetry areas.

Another great vid Steve straight to the point and common sense But I would love another g2 video settings guide since all the updates I know you have a 4090 and I’m still going along with a 3080 Should you still advise the render scale at 75 in your older videos

Don’t chase FPS. Once you get a smooth performance leave the settings alone. Continually tweaking inevitably leads you into a black hole of frustration. A steady 25-30 FPS using MR is more than good enough for IL2, for example.

Good to know. I have a 4090 now too which helps so much. What about visual shakes when everything shakes around? (Unless this is what you’re referring to) Sometimes I will get small shakeyness going on at all times which takes away from the experience it drives me crazy. It still shakes in the main home menu or when you press escape to look at settings during a flight. Even low settings won’t fix this. I don’t think it’s tracking.

Do you have a video for the Rift S? Apologies if I missed it already. Thank you for the videos!

I solved my motion reprojection stuffers on the Reverb G2 by NOT forcing 30fps in OpenXR Toolkit but instead using RivaTuner Statistics Server to lock fps to 30.

I went to the setting that controls the number items like road traffic, airport ground traffic, etc and put all those sliders to 0.

Always Hardwire your Flightsim machine from your fibre optic hub. Don't let any one else in the house stream from the fibre optic hub. 🙂

dropping by to share a bizarre story. I've had fs2020 running on a 7950x system with a Zotac 4090, 64gb of ddr5 6000, and the reverb G2. The sim runs on a dedicated NVME. My internet connection is healthy a 500mbps. I had all sliders maxed out in both PC and VR, with DX12 and DLss3 active. I had occasional slow-downs, but maintained 30+ frames, with little discomfort. I have never encountered issues like those mentioned here. I took your advice and bumped the PC version to Direct x11 after viewing this video. The performance was immediately awful. 10fps max, and tons of artifacts & freezes. I then reverted to dx12. Same freezes and 10 frames. I dont know what I broke, but it wrecked my VR experience. Moral of the story to those reading this: if it isn't broken DO NOT FIX IT. I am not sure why these settings were all well and good until today, but I sure wish I wouldn't have messed with it.

great video , can you do a step by step how video on how to record in g2 and aero with sound, thanks tee

Like my knee when i go to the gymnastik😆

Very simple: get a headset with a processor that can do motion reprojection.

HAGS ON gave me stutters with the Fenix A320, maybe with the new drivers it's not the case anymore but I don't know, I haven't tested

There is no LOD setting in MSFS. Which setting are you referring to please?

Nice one

With motion reprojection on you mean in the windows mixed reality app? And what is exactly native?

When you talk about servers and studders I would like to point out that it may not be the server itself it may be your cable company throttling the connection to the server. I have comcast and there will be days I log in and when I spawn at an airport I am getting 6FPS and I can't figure out why. I will switch to a VPN and like magic those issues go away.

Are you using open XR along with your in-game settings?

Can you address the issue of black screens with the Reverb G2 please? It's totally spoiling my VR experience and there doesn't seem to be a solution.

So, given Nvidia saying it beats the 3090 TI, is it in the cards for you to review the 4070 TI's VR performance?

Not sure why, but the reverb g2 seems to be more sensitive to stuttering than other vr headsets i've tried, and it's only when moving my head in combination with specific games where the frame rate suffers. It almost looks like it's doubling frames or something when it happens, or loses tracking for a single frame and reverts to an old position. Much more annoying than just pausing stutters. I've tried recording it through the lens but even filming at 60fps doesn't capture it.

Anyone else tried OpenXR render scale at 200% with the in-game render scale at 50%? I tried it this evening - seems very smooth with HAGS on. My setup: 5600X, 4070ti, Reverb G2

Do you use Windows 11 ? And what about the game mode ? I have good results with Win10 and HAGS on high settings….Ryzen5950, RTX 3080, 64GB Ram

hello can someone please help me. im currently running Xplane12 on my pc... processor i5 8400, 64 bit. i can run the game Maxed out grahic scenery and it Runs Smooth as butter, But once i plug in my HTC vive VR..., the game plays really laggy.... and i have to turn everything down. What can i do to solve this? i love flying in VR.

4090 13700k never an issue with vr stutters i havent touched my settings in a couple months set and forget.

4:24 What setting is this that you should turn on? Hags?

At this point in time it is unfortunately simply impossible to get the game to run perfectly smooth. This is just the reality. Hopefully Asobo can further optimize the game engine and improve things. Anyone who has been playing since PC launch will remember how poorly the game ran in the early days compared to now.

Ive been virtual flying since 1991, and FPS has always been top of my list for immersion. You should really try BMS, as it is an absolutely stutter free and truly immersive experience with the PICO, 4090 and 13700K with solid 90fps ,at the highest game settings (render 3896x3896 could be set lower but not needed) SSW off godlike mode. Showcase of how VR should feel especially when flying fast and low. (despite the basic graphics)

I shut everything off, so there's only the minimum running in the background. Automatic downloads and updates are shut down.

m.2 hdd access gives major hitching in my vr games. Maybe an Intel thing because they don't provide enough pci express lanes to the CPU. 16+4 on my 9900k, 16 for the GPU and 4 for everything else on the mobo

If windows updates are annoying how do they compare to your voice 😝.

Do you get stutters on the lowest settings? 🤔

HAGS on?? oooh interesting!!!

I remember another KZfaqr who flew Simms in VR stated that moving from the AMD 5850 to the AMD 5850 x3d significantly helped his stutters and possibly he might have said stopped it. Something about the extra cache onboard eliminating that problem. Night and day difference.

When it comes to studders in MSFS in my opinion it is mostly linked to ONE thing, VRAM. I had a HP Omen 30L gaming computer with a Ryzen 5 5800X 48 Gig of 3200Mhz DDR4 Ram and an Nvidia RTX 3060Ti. It should be able to run MSFS well and for the most part it did. However I would get stuttering no matter that I tried and I spent countless HOURS tweaking my system, MSFS, my Reverb G2, Steam VR, Open XR tool kit, Resizable Bar, Geforce settings and NOTHING made a difference..NOTHING. When I would analyze what my system was doing in developer mode I always noticed my eight Gig of Vram was ALWAYS maxed out, ALWAYS. I got a new gaming PC with the same Ryzen 5 5800 but in the X3D flavor with a lot of extra cache the 5800X does not have. I got a RTX-4090 with 24 gig of VRAM and just like that all the stuttering is gone in both VR and 2D mode right out of the box with ZERO adjustments. I was flying around NYC with the Orbix add on scenery as well as other add ons and on my new system it was so silky smooth and clear that it was hard to believe I was not in an actual airplane. When I look in developer mode I have seen MSFS use 16 gig of VRAM so no wonder why my old system had stutters, it was constantly having to swap things in and out of memory. So even with 12 gig cards you are going to see some stutters, not as much as I was getting on my old system and not as often but I really believe VRAM or lack of it is the problem and I do not think there is any way around it.

Helps to have a 4090

When the rolling cache is full you will stutter the whole time. Turn it off for the most stable experience.

DX 12 has one killer feature for 40 series Nvidia GPUs, not available in VR though: AI Frame generation. Literally takes 4K fps from the 40s to 190 FPS!!

Where's DOF platform?

I think the PSVR2 running butter smooth at 120 hz in a racing sim like GT7.....well it kind of shows how badly optimized most pcvr games are! You have a 4090 beast with a top of three line CPU and memory for days, and you're still struggling with stutters and dialing stuff in.....console VR is suddenly sounding pretty good and like easy street! 🤣

Thanks looking forward to the guide. Offtopic: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qc2elNJ-l9bZe40.html. It's coming to MSFS, this could be huge much more reliable and cheaper then present gloves.

You talk way too much before getting to the point

I *wish* I had stutters in VR! Ever since the last update, every time I try to switch to VR, the game just crashes to desktop. I found info that if I uninstalled the game and reinstalled it, it should fix the problem. And it did. For a few days. Then it just went back to crashing when switching to VR again. Honestly, very pissed off at the moment because I only ever use the sim in VR!