Ford Focus/Fiesta DPS6 Transmission Overheating Warning Message! Tips and Advice

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@TradeAlgoPremier
@TradeAlgoPremier 7 ай бұрын
I have a 2012 Ford Focus with 225,000 miles and it still has the original transmission and TCM. All I did was to replace actuators and it shifts like a dream.
@c2damak
@c2damak 7 ай бұрын
why did you replace those? what were your symptoms? and did you do any kind of relearn after the install?
@BigBensCarsAndCycles
@BigBensCarsAndCycles 7 ай бұрын
@c2damak symptoms which lead to a failed clutch actuator are usually engagement concerns. They can be diagnosed by swapping clutch A and B actuators to see if the code transfers (follows the location of the actuator) which confirms actuator failure
@xjssts7127
@xjssts7127 4 ай бұрын
Great video very well explained.
@fixxerautomotive4917
@fixxerautomotive4917 7 күн бұрын
Thanks for the video! I have a 2015 in the shop. I replaced the clutch and forks with the Luk kit and installed a Ford OEM reman TCM, I also replaced the ground connections from the TCM and rerouted them directly to the negative battery post. but I am still getting this overheat warning. I followed Ford Tech Makuloco's video exactly when i did the clutch including all of the adaptive learning steps. There was no signs of any leaking in the bellhousing. There is no shudder at any time but the RPM does rise a bit when pulling a hill in 6th from around 1850 to around 2000. Is that normal? Should it be like a manual while cruising with the RPM pretty much locked to MPH or do these transmissions slip a little on grades? Im kind of at a loss of where to go from here. The car drives and shifts great for a ASMT. There are no codes, although it did have a P2787 when it came in. THe problem happens exclusively at highway speeds while cruising.
@timobatana6705
@timobatana6705 4 ай бұрын
Dope video. I gonna try this see if it worka
@DetroitMicroSound
@DetroitMicroSound 9 ай бұрын
Great video, this one! 👍
@BigBensCarsAndCycles
@BigBensCarsAndCycles 9 ай бұрын
Thanks Detroit! Welcome back
@DetroitMicroSound
@DetroitMicroSound 9 ай бұрын
Man, so busy working on my new house @@BigBensCarsAndCycles
@BigBensCarsAndCycles
@BigBensCarsAndCycles 8 ай бұрын
@@DetroitMicroSound just saw this comment. I hear ya! Hope everything works out with it!
@SucksTeamMx
@SucksTeamMx 9 ай бұрын
I do work on this DPS6 like 5 different Focus all they work properly after u know remplace forks, lubricate parts, seal, clutch package, all grounds clean, etc. I have one right now with a different escenario, i do remplace forks, I taste the thickness of the clutch is on range, but at times display says overheating and still make all gears normal, i suspect maybe the 1ISS 2ISS or OSS already remplace, all the test pass like Clutch system, drums, learn adaptation, but when i'm doing the ISS test they fail the test around 2k RPM by 15 off the range, suppost to be like Input above 100rpm than the engine (how is that possible any clue??) maybe a CKP lying ??? any suggestion?? Thanks
@BigBensCarsAndCycles
@BigBensCarsAndCycles 9 ай бұрын
Hey, honestly I can't understand some of what you mean, but If you don't have actuator codes and the clutch is getting hot, I suspect an issue or contamination of the clutch or apply components. Possibly a mechanical issue with an actuator. The speed sensors and ckp shouldn't play any role in a clutch adaptive learn. If there are codes for those sensors definitely fix that first though
@SucksTeamMx
@SucksTeamMx 9 ай бұрын
@@BigBensCarsAndCycles Thanks for reply and time. Ok, I don't register any codes it is what feel like some electrical bug could happen, already check and clean very well with air compressor the dust for the clutch before install, I spin both clutch with the hand they move freely, I change both actuators before assembly all and then the "transmission overheating" appear, has new oil Motorcraft on level. It make me very curious how can ISS can register 100 RPM above the engine cuz as I understand flywheel is attach directly to the input shafts.
@evelynnshtx1591
@evelynnshtx1591 5 ай бұрын
I have a 2016 Ford Focus, tested and got code P07A3 and P2872 shows clutch A, the car is also showing transmission is hot and is driving a bit rough , what can I do or replace ?
@BigBensCarsAndCycles
@BigBensCarsAndCycles 5 ай бұрын
Hi. You'll likely end up needing a clutch job and you should replace both actuators too. amzn.to/3SAqWXx kzfaq.info/get/bejne/e696p5yS08zIg4E.htmlsi=I4wI5RItnv_0hUSp kzfaq.info/get/bejne/i6iVisl2vcq9fJc.htmlsi=Ib1-BX268BDH6E99 ford.oempartsonline.com/oem-parts/ford-actuator-ae8z7c604a
@evelynnshtx1591
@evelynnshtx1591 5 ай бұрын
@@BigBensCarsAndCycles thank you I’ll go ahead and try that and I’ll update:) !
@gregorymason5031
@gregorymason5031 9 ай бұрын
The dealership told me my tcm was going out and auto zone said it was my starter cause my car was not starting at all I got my clutch replaced and the tcm reprogrammed how long does a reprogrammed last on a tcm but now my car is starting fine so I might just get the starter replaced
@BigBensCarsAndCycles
@BigBensCarsAndCycles 9 ай бұрын
Hi, if you're TCM is failing, wait for it to happen again and take it to the dealership. The TCMs are free until 2025. Don't replace the starter, that's probably not the issue.
@saq4575
@saq4575 9 ай бұрын
Do you think its possible to DIY, change the TCM and code it in. Also do you think its possible to DIY change the clutch.
@BigBensCarsAndCycles
@BigBensCarsAndCycles 9 ай бұрын
Yes. I have videos on replacing each of those. Get forscan to program
@saq4575
@saq4575 9 ай бұрын
​@BigBensCarsAndCycles thank you. Without a ramp at home, is it still possible on driveway?
@BigBensCarsAndCycles
@BigBensCarsAndCycles 9 ай бұрын
@@saq4575 I haven't done it at home, but its possible. I'd get tall jack stands and a Trans jack. Check out my clutch and fork replacement video on my Playlist for focus transmissions issues
@saq4575
@saq4575 9 ай бұрын
Thank you, I am a car trader in the UK. I only buy and sell Focus Autos 11 to 14. But at least 4 out of 10 have these issues. So i have to deal with returns. There really good sellers but need a cunning plan how to fix these boxes.
@ryze_boondox_-3533
@ryze_boondox_-3533 5 ай бұрын
What about if it’s at speeds of 75 mph I had a clutch and fork replacement and my brother cant even figure out what’s going on and he works at ford there no shutter no codes but I get transmission overheating then transmission fault
@BigBensCarsAndCycles
@BigBensCarsAndCycles 5 ай бұрын
There's no temp sensor, it goes by an algorithm based on detected clutch slippage. I bet you have a failing clutch actuator. When a fork sticks or seizes, it can cause wear to the actuator. I've noticed it can cause poor engagement at highway speeds and the rpm will go all over and not engage at times. I can see why that would cause overheating of the clutch. I'd try replacing both actuators with new oem ones. And make sure there's no leaks onto the clutch
@MadRat70
@MadRat70 2 ай бұрын
Check your wiring harness that goes under your air intake. The insulation on these wires is poor and moisture gets trapped in them. Wiring literally corrodes in place. The sensor sees a voltage drop. Your wiring is probably failing.
@Mickey1935
@Mickey1935 3 ай бұрын
What if my transmission is overheating and dropping gears after you accelerate to fast or something or when it’s hot
@Mickey1935
@Mickey1935 3 ай бұрын
Code is P0809
@BigBensCarsAndCycles
@BigBensCarsAndCycles 3 ай бұрын
Check my new video "fool proof diagnosis for clutch stuck applied codes"
@DucksDoQuack
@DucksDoQuack 4 ай бұрын
I have a 2015 focus 115k miles It started off as id be driving and the rpms would skyrocket as if it the trans was in neutral. Then i had transmission overheating error 3x. Now its saying transmission fault service now and doesnt want to leave 1st gear. It should also be noted that it took roughly 8 months a few thousand miles for that to all transpire. Majority of the time it drove like normal until a week ago where its at now undrivable. I swapped A for B and B for A but the issue remains. Is this a clutch/ fork issue or a TCM issue? Also ford has a extended warranty for 150k /10 years Do those symptoms relate to that warranty? Thank you in advance if you respond to this lengthy post.
@BigBensCarsAndCycles
@BigBensCarsAndCycles 4 ай бұрын
Hi, you should have Ford diagnose it to see if it's a free tcm or a $3000 clutch job. Or tell me what code it has and I'll tell you what it is
@DucksDoQuack
@DucksDoQuack 4 ай бұрын
@BigBensCarsAndCycles I scheduled an appointment which will be April 11. I don't have the tools to run the codes unfortunately but if I find away to do so I'll inform you. With those symptoms what would be your guess? I know without the codes maybe it's a shot in the dark but just so I can prepare to drop 3g if so Thank you for you timely response, very much appreciated!
@BigBensCarsAndCycles
@BigBensCarsAndCycles 4 ай бұрын
@@DucksDoQuack symptoms can be similar between each failure. My guess is you should prepare for $3k
@DucksDoQuack
@DucksDoQuack 4 ай бұрын
@BigBensCarsAndCycles bummer I got the car for 2 grand and I rarely drive it so 3g is what it is I guess once again thank you
@RodFamVlogs
@RodFamVlogs 7 ай бұрын
Hello, my trans is throwing the overheating massage. Code is p2872 Actuator A. I did replace it, didn’t replace the B. I did change the trans oil which it was only a qtr and oil was really dirty. I scrapped the ground terminals to get better results. Got the engine coolant to the right level and after doing all that i still getting the same warning. Got the warning but after 2 minutes i put the car on reverse and it drives. Should i clean the part where the actuators goes in? To see if the forks start engaging? Idk im so confused. Maybe the TCM
@BigBensCarsAndCycles
@BigBensCarsAndCycles 7 ай бұрын
That's most likely a seizing clutch A actuator or failing slave cylinder. I would do a clutch and fork replacement, and slave cylinder. I've got videos for doing that. Let me know if you need any help. I have a discord and facebook group
@AuthenticKenneth_90s
@AuthenticKenneth_90s 8 ай бұрын
Hey I need some advice on my 2015 ford focus
@BigBensCarsAndCycles
@BigBensCarsAndCycles 8 ай бұрын
Alright go ahead. You may want to make another comment so I get notified. Or thumbs up this comment
@tben9074
@tben9074 7 ай бұрын
I have a 2013 ford focus 113k miles. Just had the bearings replaced and dust boots. Was driving and received the red exclamation ❗️ to pull over cause transmission was overheating and to wait 5 min. No lights on dash but my traction control light keep flickering? Which never happened before. Waited till it told me it was to drive and went about my way home I wasn’t far. It’s been parked since. Which was maybe 2 days ago
@BigBensCarsAndCycles
@BigBensCarsAndCycles 7 ай бұрын
Check for transmission codes, you may have to pull the transmission back out and check for a seizing clutch fork or slave cylinder. Or fluid leakage onto the clutch
@tben9074
@tben9074 7 ай бұрын
Can I check for codes if no nodes are showing on dash?
@tben9074
@tben9074 7 ай бұрын
Sorry I meant the wheel bearings, transmission was not taken out I’ve had no issues with tranny before taking it to get wheel bearings replaced. So this is all new
@hughbunyea4703
@hughbunyea4703 5 ай бұрын
I have a 2017 Ford Feista SE automatic. Has been a good vehicle but all the sudden after driving for about 30 minutes it will start to slow down like the brakes are being applied and will stop eventually. If you put it in drive or park and give it gas it seems to want to go but almost feels like the brakes are stuck. If I wait an hour or so its fine but will do it again
@BigBensCarsAndCycles
@BigBensCarsAndCycles 5 ай бұрын
Hi, do you have the dps6 dual clutch automatic? If so, next I need to know what fault codes are present
@gregorymason5031
@gregorymason5031 9 ай бұрын
I had only got codes for the shift forks
@BigBensCarsAndCycles
@BigBensCarsAndCycles 9 ай бұрын
Gotcha. Sticking clutch forks can cause a no-start. It might be fixed now that you had all that redone
@jamiewilliams7987
@jamiewilliams7987 8 ай бұрын
What’s a clutch shutter? Mines been sitting for 6 months and now that I’m driving it again it’s struggling to switch gears, and tranny keeps running hot. It drives fine once I’m on the interstate I’m guessing because I’m not switching gears but I don’t know. I added a quart of tranny fluid, but it’s a sealed transmission so I can’t check to see if there’s enough and I’m scared to add too much.
@BigBensCarsAndCycles
@BigBensCarsAndCycles 8 ай бұрын
A clutch shudder is a Shaking sensation at low speed acceleration. Low fluid won't cause any observable symptoms. I have a fluid service video you can watch on this to get the level correct if you want. Anyway, first thing I'd do is check for codes. If there are none it could be a sticking fork or actuator. You can try hard acceleration several times to dust the cobwebs off before spending money
@MC-hs4mf
@MC-hs4mf 2 ай бұрын
Owner is selling car and said they replaced transmission but still getting overheated message
@BigBensCarsAndCycles
@BigBensCarsAndCycles 2 ай бұрын
Unfortunately when you install a used transmission, you really should put a new clutch and forks in it because they all fail eventually
@tatiakartvelishvili9506
@tatiakartvelishvili9506 7 ай бұрын
My car used to shift very roughly and shake time to time... I was told to replace gear box which I did... It doesn't share that much now, but I had different problem - when driving above 80 km per hour for some time, like 40 minutes my new transmission was overheating... In the end after lots of trials, they said it was a software problem and reprogrammed the car.. After that I drove 2K miles without having the opportunity to test the same duration for that speed.. But recently it start to everheat in a traffic jam in about 40 minutes even though I often put it in N to avoid overheating... So no I don't know what the hell to do with this car... (I have replaced both actuators 2 years ago)...we've checked transmission sensors, seems ok. I've changed transmission liquid for no reason, just to be sure... Maybe it's time for TCM?! The most frustrating is that technicians are guessing instead of really knowing what the hell ot wants
@BigBensCarsAndCycles
@BigBensCarsAndCycles 7 ай бұрын
Need to know what codes it's setting and I'll give you some direction. Was it a used transmission or brand new? I'm guessing used since you're still having issues. Most of the time an overheating clutch is an issue with the clutch and apply components themselves.
@tatiakartvelishvili9506
@tatiakartvelishvili9506 7 ай бұрын
​@@BigBensCarsAndCycles it was a new transmission.. Not directly bought from Ford though... And since its change I only drove 3000 km
@dashboy4l
@dashboy4l Ай бұрын
what did you end up doing?
@tatiakartvelishvili9506
@tatiakartvelishvili9506 Ай бұрын
@@dashboy4l nothing.. no one helped in the end.. :/
@dashboy4l
@dashboy4l Ай бұрын
@@tatiakartvelishvili9506 damn this hurts 🥲 currently having the same issues and i just got this car.
@Abe-ny1dy
@Abe-ny1dy 4 ай бұрын
Is this automatical what
@BigBensCarsAndCycles
@BigBensCarsAndCycles 4 ай бұрын
This is a dual clutch automatic (dct)
@dahlon6618
@dahlon6618 2 ай бұрын
My wife had the overheating issue and I had told her to check coolant she was empty and we brought more than a a gallon of water and it poured out in the same area your thumbnail points just not really any surface area to see where
@BigBensCarsAndCycles
@BigBensCarsAndCycles 2 ай бұрын
The water outlet is there, that may be the leak.
@dahlon6618
@dahlon6618 2 ай бұрын
@@BigBensCarsAndCycles ok I’ve searched around and majority do say the water outlet but I’m unsure as to how to prove it is without taking it off as I have the titanium hatchback I’m unsure if the layout is different but the outlet looks to be metal but I could be mistaken for a colored plastic
@dahlon6618
@dahlon6618 2 ай бұрын
@@BigBensCarsAndCycles thank you for your insight and time. Fast response for an old video you earned my respect and subscription👍
@user-vz3pt4bt6r
@user-vz3pt4bt6r 8 ай бұрын
Hi I have 3 code on my car p07a3 and p286f and p2872
@BigBensCarsAndCycles
@BigBensCarsAndCycles 8 ай бұрын
You probably need a new clutch, forks and slave cylinder. They all come in the LuK repset
@user-vz3pt4bt6r
@user-vz3pt4bt6r 8 ай бұрын
Is that it is easy fix also get a message, trans overheating
@user-vz3pt4bt6r
@user-vz3pt4bt6r 8 ай бұрын
Do I need to change both clutches?
@BigBensCarsAndCycles
@BigBensCarsAndCycles 8 ай бұрын
@user-vz3pt4bt6r both clutches are serviced as 1 assembly. And I have videos on how to do the job. It's a bit advanced if you're a beginner at car repair, but if you're fairly experienced you can handle it
@user-vz3pt4bt6r
@user-vz3pt4bt6r 8 ай бұрын
So all I need to do change the clutch’s on there
@juanlanda2441
@juanlanda2441 Ай бұрын
So there is literally no temp sensor. Then if the clutch actuators start to stick or any other transmission code pops up, then this must be the trans check light. Basically saying hey you need to scan me.
@hughbunyea4703
@hughbunyea4703 5 ай бұрын
It is an automatic / electric built in clutch , I guess it's called. and it doesn't show any codes
@BigBensCarsAndCycles
@BigBensCarsAndCycles 5 ай бұрын
I'll have to get you to record video of the issue to post in my discord or Facebook group
@hughbunyea4703
@hughbunyea4703 5 ай бұрын
2017 Ford Feista SE non-turbo. You responded to my question the other day and ask if I could send a video you could upload. I have the car up on jackstands becauae I wanted to check the front breaks because like I said it seems like the brakes apply themself while driving eventually bringing the car to a stop. When you give it gas in drive or reverse it bucks up and wants to go but it seems like the brakes are locked up. I just took the calipers off and they were tight so I pressed the brakes with the cat running to see if the pistons came out and neither one moves. Would greatly appreciate ur thoughts
@BigBensCarsAndCycles
@BigBensCarsAndCycles 5 ай бұрын
@@hughbunyea4703 hi, the reason I was asking for you to post the video is to see what your car is doing. But, after you explained your problem again now, it sounds like typical clutch shudder which these all get. You can drive the car hard occasionally to mitigate the shudder. Or replace the clutch and apply components. amzn.to/4bhn3iK
@hughbunyea4703
@hughbunyea4703 5 ай бұрын
@BigBensCarsAndCycles just strange because it only has 70,000 miles and we baby it
@BigBensCarsAndCycles
@BigBensCarsAndCycles 5 ай бұрын
@hughbunyea4703 babying it is actually bad for developing shudder, believe it or not. And 70k is high miles for an original clutch. I would drive it full throttle onto the highway 5 to 10 times and that'll help smothen it out for a while. Eventually a clutch fork will lock up from debris and junk. Usually every 100k miles you'll want a clutch and fork replacement. I've got lots of videos showing how to do that, without special tools. Let me know how I can help.
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