Foundation Season 2 Episode 9 Deep Dive W/Showrunner David S. Goyer

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Foundation Season 2 Episode 9 discussion with Showrunner and Executive Producer David S. Goyer. A deep dive examination of S02E09 “Long Ago, Not Far Away” with the show's co-creator. Please Subscribe 👉 bit.ly/PetePeppers
Episode 9 of Foundation’s second Season is one of the series' best episodes. David S. Goyer is one of the Apple TV+ show's co-creators and he joins Pete Peppers to discuss one of his favorite episodes.
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About David S. Goyer:
DAVID S. GOYER has earned a reputation for telling character-driven stories adapted from the otherworldly realms of superheroes, fantasy and the supernatural. His breakout came in 1998 when he wrote the action hit BLADE starring Wesley Snipes, based on the Marvel Comics vampire hunter. Since then, he’s solidified himself as writer and producer who elevates genre driven stories to the next level.
Most recently, Goyer Executive Produced and served as Showrunner for one of the year’s most epic series, FOUNDATION, which premiered on Apple TV+. Based on Isaac Asimov’s iconic novels, Goyer’s sensibilities brought this world to life with his unique tone.
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S2, E9
SEPTEMBER 8, 2023
Long Ago, Not Far Away
Dusk and Enjoiner Rue learn Demerzel’s origin and true purpose. Tellem’s plans for Gaal take a dark turn. On Terminus, Day confronts Dr. Seldon.
Episode 9 changes everything going into the Season 2 finale. It’s a packed episode with a mini-movie narrated by Cleon I about how Demerzel (Laura Birn) became the closest aide serving Empire. Brother Dusk (Terrence Mann) and Enjoiner Rue (Sandra Yi Sencindiver) are horrified when they learn the truth. On Ignis the drowned Hari Seldon (Jared Harris) returned to save Gaal (Lou Llobell) from Tellem Bond (Rachel House).
Brother Day (Lee Pace) decides he wants to be the Cleon who chose peace and goes to Terminus to meet with their leadership. After discovering what was happening at the church he confronts Dr. Seldon in the Vault. Things fall apart and after a battle in space, he decides to drop the Invictus on the planet to destroy it and bring an end to the First Foundation.
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More than a century after the season one finale, tension mounts throughout the galaxy in “Foundation” season two. As the Cleons unravel, a vengeful queen plots to destroy Empire from within. Hari, Gaal and Salvor discover a colony of Mentalics with psionic abilities that threaten to alter psychohistory itself. The Foundation has entered its religious phase, promulgating the Church of Seldon throughout the Outer Reach and inciting the Second Crisis: war with Empire. The monumental adaptation of “Foundation” chronicles the stories of four crucial individuals transcending space and time as they overcome deadly crises, shifting loyalties and complicated relationships that will ultimately determine the fate of humanity.
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@PetePeppers1 8 ай бұрын

I wanted to say thanks again to David for coming on. He's a fun interview and was generous with his time. We'll be doing it again after the finale. Check out his blog and follow his Instagram for Foundation BTS content. (links in this video's description) There were some interesting answers to think about. Let me know what you think

@caivsivlivs 8 ай бұрын

send homeboy a better mic to use for that one pls

@thomaswayne1852 8 ай бұрын

If I may. To David. You got me. To the end. Hopefully in 8 (or more years) ^^

@terraincognita3749 8 ай бұрын

@@thomaswayne1852 Hear hear. Though I am already really happy that we have a third season coming up, and that season 4 also seems pretty safe. This is a story and a universe I want to spend more time in!

@TheSpenceFencer 8 ай бұрын

Next time you talk to him can you ask him if Cleon's Shadowmaster Obrekt(sp?) is also an android? That guy didn't age at all over several Cleon's. Or was that a continuity mistake?

@R2LEE2 8 ай бұрын

Thanks for doing the interview it was great to watch and confirmed/revealed many things floating in my mind leading into this final episode of the season. Goyer definitely had some issues with the mic/acoustics, the CC made up well enough however. I'm curious if we'll see any sign of the second foundation. there is that timeline lag between our two harry POVs and I'm wondering if there is a narrative purpose to this other than Hober Mallow.

@kaihaeyaert 8 ай бұрын

I truly hope foundation will get the seasons it deserves!

@The.Hangry.Comment 8 ай бұрын

Series is AMAZING! I know many people buying Apple subscription just for this show! Special effects also amazing! Shout out all people working on the show! BEST SERIES ON APPLE!

@jrherita 8 ай бұрын

I’m one of those. For Foundation and “For All Mankind”

@Jean-jw4hw 8 ай бұрын

now with almost 2 complete seasons, its worth it.

@harvey1965 8 ай бұрын

... perfectly stated!

@tarkajedi3331 8 ай бұрын

Agree, it is worth getting APPLE just for FOUNDATION.....!!!!!!!!!!!

@hyness5417 8 ай бұрын

Severance is also very good!

@SSGTStryker 8 ай бұрын

Funny, as I watched this episode of Foundation, I found myself thinking “I definitely need to watch the Pete Peppers treatment for this episode.” But the fact that you actually have David Goyer on with it, takes it a whole new level.

@jimatmezzacello366 8 ай бұрын

Me too! Demerzel could NOT have clicked over FASTER! I ask myself, holy shit?! Did I just watch what I think I saw?! @petePeppers1 brings me confident clarity!

@SSGTStryker 8 ай бұрын

@@jimatmezzacello366 I couldn’t have said it better myself.

@diego5467 8 ай бұрын

Something about his voice too

@FritzAlcindorJr 8 ай бұрын

Im hoping we get 6+ seasons! Then we can get spinoffs. Foundation has entered my TOP 10 series I/'ve ever seen in a quick 2 seasons. Apple cannot stop this show. It needs this budget and this much care.

@michaelmayhem350 8 ай бұрын

Peter said previously they have story planned for 8 seasons.

@FritzAlcindorJr 8 ай бұрын

@@michaelmayhem350 thanks. I wrote before I got to that spot.

@jportega9404 8 ай бұрын

I think they hinted at making a spin-off for Demerzel and her previous iterations throughout the history of the Empire and even the dawn of Humanity's exploration of the stars (saying more would just be spoiler-ish lol). It will be interesting where they will place her during the rise The Mule.

@FritzAlcindorJr 8 ай бұрын

@@Flowers-777 The show is great. They need to justify the probable huge budget. Some of the best shows are cancelled just because of budget and nothing else.

@Ryan-eu3kp 8 ай бұрын

@@michaelmayhem350fuck yes... getting me hyped at 8.41am sitting in my office youtubing foundation lol

@tarkajedi3331 8 ай бұрын

I thought FOUNDATION was unmakable for a number of reasons.... The show has actually done an amazing job so far! They actually have pulled off what few thought possible !!!!!

@nathanolson3135 8 ай бұрын

@AdamBrown1980 8 ай бұрын

Lee Pace did an amazing job portraying the the glee, joy, sadistic, shit-eating eating grin Day is showing when Terminus is being destroyed!!

@artboymoy 8 ай бұрын

He's come a long way from being a simple pie maker for sure!

@yoruneko34 8 ай бұрын

Lee pace is the goat

@RumChocolates 8 ай бұрын

I love the family unit of Hari, Gaal, and Salvor. I also loved that moment when it clicked for Hari that Salvor was his granddaughter, making that fishing scene on Ignis more special.

@juniperala 8 ай бұрын

When was that? I forget

@SapphireStars 8 ай бұрын

They're my favorite part of the show as well.

@alienishere002 8 ай бұрын

Season 2 has been truly epic.

@tarreemhacaruso2687 8 ай бұрын

It is😊

@CSLintheCASINO 8 ай бұрын

Pete got the BIG MAN in his channel! WOW!! 👀

@isaac.anthony 8 ай бұрын

I hope we get 8 seasons. It's a great show so far, I find myself always wanting more.

@isaac.anthony 8 ай бұрын

I want to see Gaia and R.Daneel final goal being realized.

@RickeyBowers 8 ай бұрын

It's an absolute heroic effort to bring this material to new audiences. The result has been amazing, beautiful, and a character I've loved to welcome along side Asimov's original work. Waiting for the rest to unfold ...

@JohnnyZenith 8 ай бұрын

Well said.

@gerardojg 8 ай бұрын

Those terrible words "you're a sperm..." is an accurate appraisal of Day, IMO. This season, I initially believed him to be brave and intuitive. As the season progressed, it became obvious he was desperate if not hysterically insecure. I'm not certain if that is a good way to express it but the idea should be clear. Dermezel may be on the verge of breaking her bonds or meeting her doom. I don't believe it will come to that, her doom. I hope Dawn and Sareth aren't harmed.

@ItsNumberJuan 8 ай бұрын

“An accurate appraisal of Day” I have never thought of using that word in that way. Just wanted to comment because I appreciate the vocabulary skills

@SpikeyGuy 8 ай бұрын

I think she's got a long-plan in play to break those bonds.

@ggie5195 8 ай бұрын

Also the Cork comment from Hari

@peterg76yt 8 ай бұрын

Brother Day is an autocrat with absolute power - and Seldon tells him he is powerless to change anything that matters. And Day knows he's right.

@aaronneal6421 8 ай бұрын

I think giving Demerzel the Prime Radiant fulfills two functions for Dr. Seldon/Vault Hari, the 1st being it gets the snooping device away from him so the 2nd Foundation can't spy on him and he doesn't have to be running a control group, the 2nd being the 2nd Foundation gets to snoop on the true lever of power of the Empire and it puts it as a knife on Trantor like Yana wanted.

@Necrotic99 8 ай бұрын

I read the books, and I think the showrunners have done great changes to fit it for tv. The idea of the 3 versions of empire is excellent, and I think it still maintains the core of the foundation series.

@Setentavecesocho 8 ай бұрын

At the beggining of the series I had my reservations and hold judgement because of the Cleon's arch. But the show has grown on me even how distant it is from the books. Congrats to Mr Goyer and team. Looking forward to see if they can land it propperly.

@bigmatt1987hawaii 8 ай бұрын

This show is up there with the expanse!!!!

@roberttherrien352 8 ай бұрын

Read the first 3 books 50 years ago. And the Robot books also. Always wonder how this could be adapted . Have to say I am waiting with pleasure for each episodes. So Goyer did a very good job. The addition of Espanson to the team is assurance of success.

@ghaytho.dabbagh1311 8 ай бұрын

Plz plz plzzzzzzz tell David to go as long as 10 or 11 seasons.... the show is an absolute delight ❤

@RELANDREL 8 ай бұрын

lol dude seriously

@ghaytho.dabbagh1311 8 ай бұрын

@@RELANDREL 🤣🤣

@michaelmayhem350 8 ай бұрын

Peter said previously David has confirmed they have plans/story outline for at least 8 seasons

@ryankittle3431 8 ай бұрын

Tell Apple, cause this series cost big money. For it to get a lot of seasons, it needs an ever growing viewership. The show is phenomenal, and I hope more sign up to appletv just for the show.

@ghaytho.dabbagh1311 8 ай бұрын

@ryankittle3431 I hope so too... but come on I was clearly exaggerating, if they reached 6 seasons that would be a total success...

@fernandogarajalde4066 8 ай бұрын

All my trepidations about this series ended with this writing team and David piloting the ship that Asimov built; Pete Peppers is aboard just as the rest of us. 💞🛸👩🏻‍🦳🤖

@jeanannwg 8 ай бұрын

Great interview! The last two episodes of this show have been fantastic. I’m so sad we lost Poly, he was such a great character. 😢 Poor Bel Riose. Heartbreaking. Such a good show.

@derrickdavis7524 8 ай бұрын

Dimerzel being a robot, wouldn’t she be able to understand the math behind Psyc history? Maybe she has understood it the whole time and is just playing the long game to get her freedom. She proved she is very patient and good at the extremely long game.

@VHBEngines 8 ай бұрын

Pretty sure demerzel even haf a hand in its development in the books

@markevans2294 8 ай бұрын

This is in the prequel novels Prelude to Foundation and Forward the Foundation. Demerzel is playing very long game.

@urself25 8 ай бұрын

Excellent interview. In my mind, Day and Dermerzel are still in the vault. Just remember when Hober Mallow was stuck for days in the vault before Paulie and Constance entered it. I'm pretty sure Harry is controlling what Day is seeing and hearing and let Day think that he attacked the ship and destroyed the planet. Dermerzel realized the illusion and let Day live it alone to see how far he would go.

@muffyjohnson7458 8 ай бұрын

Great theory hope it's true

@mirarstudios 8 ай бұрын

Too many povs for this to seem credible

@eds1942 8 ай бұрын

If what we saw is truth, (David says the planet is gone) then Bel now has an actually reason to kill or betray Day. Day believes this to be an absolute triumph of his brilliance to out do the other Cleons and break the curse of Hari Seldon and to remind everyone of Empire’s strength. But Day mistakes military strength for the right to rule. And the reason for Imperial decline isn’t because of the “curse”, but because the Cleons have drove the people are at the breaking point and are ready for change. This was Day undoing himself and any respect the Cleons, and more directly he held with some at a time when he is now on his own. Day has created a situation where Empire starts to go down hill in a more obvious way from here on. It’s sort of a self-fulfilling prophecy. He delved so deep into learning about Hari Seldon and his curse of Empire’s end that he made it all about himself Vs Seldon. Think of the first Star Wars movie. Having the Death Star destroy Alderaan seemed like a powerful move that should serve as a warning against rebellion. But that act lost the Empire a lot of support, and with the Death Star’s destruction, won the Rebellion a lot of support. Where this differs from Foundation is that Hari is the one with foresight, not the Cleons, and the Cleons top generals and allies have sketchy loyalties. Turning the whole scene into an illusion (an expensive cgi one), undoes that. The first Foundation is more than just a planet. It priesthood, and merchant/smugglers, and their partners and connections and influence throughout the outer territories.

@freebird6591 8 ай бұрын

Its Gaal and Salvor. The timelines were revealed couple eps ago. They arrived and tricked the fleet and citizens into seeing what they wanted them to see. That or... Every citizen jas a teleporter chip embedded as a kid and get activated to a local spot, surviving to start again.

@mirarstudios 8 ай бұрын

@@freebird6591 I wager everyone on that planet is dead as a doornail. Foundation has always been about this issue of the needs of the many outweighing the needs of the few. If there's any problem with this series so far, it's that it's not done enough to indicate the scale of the empire and how many hundreds of thousands of world's and trillions of people are involved, making what happens with one single planet literally like a drop in the ocean. Seldon is willing to sacrifice on that scale for this concept of 'the greater good' even if it seems horrific. Imo the actual point is demorzel has the prime radiant, has been encouraged to 'make a better day', and we have certainly not seen the last of the spacers nor the effects that the destruction of foundation 1 will have across multiple worlds (remember they have seeded it as a religion across multiple world systems by now)

@smosmo4617 8 ай бұрын

I truly believe this show will increase exponentially in popularity between seasons 2 and 3,it's too good .word will spread

@SilverScale. 8 ай бұрын

What a fantastic gift! Thanks to you both, Pete and David, for doing this. 🎉

@two4.six8 8 ай бұрын

This episode was one of the best episodes of TV I have ever watched.

@nemomarc7841 8 ай бұрын

Thank you Pete so great interview with David S. Goyer. The season 2 is so ambitious spectacular, We know the past of DEMERZEL she is the memory of the empire and much more.

@retroflambe 8 ай бұрын

I appreciate Goyer and all. goddamn man, you work in film/tv professionally, why do you not have a setup for a zoom call wherein it's not sounding like you're in a canyon? like. seriously.

@jasmine7744 8 ай бұрын

That face when Demerzel said “that’s why I chose you” 😮

@brandonross2010 8 ай бұрын

Thank you Pete and David for giving the fans this discussion! Asimov is a genius! It’s cool to see creative minds modernize and breath life into the shows interpretation of this tale.

@wilzouk4455 8 ай бұрын

What extraordinary opportunity and how generous is Mr. Goyer with his time and answers. Asimov's Foundation is a jewel of sci-fy novels from the half of last century and this TV version needed to update to the current visual mean with its pros and cons. As long I know, this series is a global TV phenomena and it could last 8 seasons. Hope the actors will last as great as today. Some spoilers: Josiah is the Mule, Empire will be destroyed. The Mule will try by six times to discover where the Second Fundation is. Thank you Peter for this deep dive. Waiting for episode 10 and then until 2025.

@ggie5195 8 ай бұрын

Or just Tellembond on Josiahs body

@RyanCacophony 8 ай бұрын

@@ggie5195 uhhh not sure how realistic that idea is based on how the episode they're discussing ended lol

@pTryceorl 8 ай бұрын

Both of these gentlemen create happiness in my life using different mediums. The best to you both!

@braxxian 8 ай бұрын

I have been reading Foundation for 50 years and love the books. I have also come to love this show. Hat off to all involved.

@owenwhite4879 8 ай бұрын

I really hope they can get to 8 seasons. I might be as old as Brother Day if they get there but I’ll be a happy Day.

@harvey1965 8 ай бұрын

Goyer's "Foundation' is his interpretation of Asimov's story adapted to work in the storytelling format of television AND very simply I, personally, am LOVING every single second of this wonderfully written, powerfully acted and marvellously produced spectacle of a science fiction series. It is simply delicious. Both episodes 8 & 9 have been the BEST two hours of storytelling I've had the joy to watch in recent years. Please, may the series run for years to come. Thanks for the scoop of an interview Pete! Your analysis of each episode is INVALUABLE to me, I think you're brilliant

@chrisdjernaes9658 8 ай бұрын

Destroying Terminus is the Catalyst for Foundation 2 … it’s the motivation for the next Big Story. Brilliant 🍻

@Enkaptaton 8 ай бұрын

As a Tolkien fan I have been angered with bad writing lately. But this show... it is catching me. Wowses. Season one`s finale felt kinda lame, but omg the show is getting exiting with every single season 2 episode! Congratulations for all the book fans, I hope despite the changes you enjoy it!

@Nik6644 8 ай бұрын

one of my favorite parts of the episode is when day announces he'll go down to terminus and Bel rios just sighs silently and forms the word "fuck" with his lips xD

@ricardioscarbonara102 8 ай бұрын

Hell yeah!! Been waiting for your review of this episode, now to find out you've got David with you?! Amazing

@PetePeppers1 8 ай бұрын

I put out a normal breakdown for this episode too kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pJpilKmTmLfFoac.html

@andymachala999 8 ай бұрын

Ah. I figured out why Demerezel took off. She got information that Dusk found the room. She had already made contact with Hari and it was too late to do anything with Day, so it was time to leave before Day got word that Dusk was missing.

@highlifeking1 8 ай бұрын

If Apple fails to give us 8 seasons, I’ll migrate to android for good.

@natholloway9147 8 ай бұрын

This season has been amazing. The acting, the story, the cgi has been astounding. I love your takes on it, Pete. Your calm, measured dialogue helps break these down in a very consumable way.

@Vicious2000 8 ай бұрын

I may have figured out how they will resolve the robot morality issue. Demerzel was r reprogrammed to protect “empire”. Empire was understood to be the current Emperor in control of Empire. Once she has the ability to predict human future through psychohistory, she can gain her freedom by extending her programming to protecting the human “Empire “ as a whole. An extension of Asimov’s 0th Law.

@lurkst3r 8 ай бұрын

out of all the TV show reviewers, I really enjoy your vods! What an exciting opportunity to interview the showrunner. You should do these more often, thanks!

@coolkoreamag 8 ай бұрын

omg omg OMG thank you so so so soooooooo much !!! YOU DID AN AWESOME JOB and it was spectacular. I could have watched 3 more hours of this conversation between you and David. MY GOSHHHHHHH I had a lot of fun and you asked the questions we all have as devoted fans of this series and he was SO COOL. You can clearly tell he's as excited about the show and the story as we are as watchers. I love it coz I can tell !!! He's a big producer but nevertheless his reactions was one of the fans of this series and you guys have great conversations about these details I also had in mind. KEEP IT UP !!! Can't wait for the finale AND your debrief with him ahaha. Thanks again Pete ;)

@michaellerner528 8 ай бұрын

A very hearty thank you to Pete for garnering this interview. Having listened carefully to the interview I now have a better understanding of Goyer's take for the series. Everyone's comments are delightful to read (but I also see an inclination towards an echo chamber rather than debate). Still, I hope that everyone continues to take pleasure in the series. I, however, was left feeling more and more hollow as I sat and took some notes. I'll site only one example: Goyer said he felt that people had misread the books. This was surprising, in that the books have been selling for over 50 years, won the highest awards that can be offered, influenced many in career choices, and have been the subject of some wonderful debates on many levels. Really now - have we all been misreading the books for so many years? The series offers incredible sets, CGI and cinematography. But the writing lags. It is formulaic at a minimum which is a hallmark of this sort of storytelling, which is what Goyer excels at. This leaves any storyline dependent more on CGI then a coherent story. I do not fault this -- it is just my observation. It certainly makes a lot of money, which is the goal in the end. But pushing the series to 6, 7, or even 8 seasons leaves too much space to fill, and so we get long lines of space operas instead of SF. IMO, Goyer isn't quite the person to have brought Foundation to television. The main issue seems to be that the books are boring by todays standards - that they don't have enough "action" for the tasts of today's audience, and thus too hard to bring to the screen without a hard right turn. While I would beg to differ, I get it that today's audiences have come to expect the sort of things that we see in this series. This is not necessarily wrong -- it is entertainment, which is supposed to 'wow' - which it does aplenty.

@agapeten 8 ай бұрын

You are doing a great Job, Goyer. Keep it up

@getnkosi 8 ай бұрын

But dang, I still have so many questions. He wasted like 15 asking him about earth... I don't care about earth, ugh. Ask about Kleon the 1st, he called him a mf'er, and there was no follow-up question??

@agapeten 8 ай бұрын

@@getnkosi hahaha, Cleon the first bested an 1800 year old robot.

@dukeon 8 ай бұрын

1. Her telling him stories reminded me of Robbie and the little girl in the very first Asimov robot story. 2. David Goyer sounds like he’s speaking into a potato. 3. I was so happy when Tellum got her noggin bashed in by Hari, I really hated her. 4. I can’t believe he destroyed Terminus 😮 - although I kinda liked it? As David says, he’s keeping us on our toes and deliberately not doing what audiences have been conditioned to expect. So far, great job of that 👏🏼

@randomdude8202 8 ай бұрын

They are doing a good job so far with the story, even though I didn't like the depiction of foundation as " just another rebellion" as much. "Trying to preserve civilization for downfall" part was more interesting. Rest of the stuff is good, though. Hope the quality of writing stays this way.

@tionreesho 8 ай бұрын

Series is amazing so far, more pluses than minuses. Only minor peeves: 1. In my mind, i always imagined imperial distance in all the Empire scenes. Huge audience chambers, huge bedroom, reducing ppl to ants, juxtaposed with the Emperor being larger than life. So the current small palace, small bedroom, seems quaint. 2. Bel Riose should command from a position of larger than life, something like in a SW Super Star Destroyer kind of bridge. This is a different take on the soldiers of Empire. But the hubris, grandiose, power, intrigue, spot on. And Glawen's intrigue befits the court instead of front line soldier. 3. Trantor with its army of grey bureaucrats, and scheming aristocrats is just represented by a small group. Could have shown how Rue and Sareth themselves are commanding swathes of star systems with its own bureaucracy and hangers on, while the scheming and building intrigue in Cleon's court. 4. Foundation could have been more a rural university campus instead of this dirty origins, to show a little bit of 150 years of development. Otherwise, no problems with the plot twists and departures. All the Asimovian bits are there, and 20,000 years is plenty of time for technology indistinguishable from magic to develop, lost, and kept secret for Empire.

@IstariAzul777 8 ай бұрын

I love demerzel and really want to see her Unleashed

@kj34sdf4 8 ай бұрын

This is my favorite show currently running right now. It really is taking television science fiction to another level.

@cliffhoelzer6895 8 ай бұрын

Pete and David, thanks so much for your wonderful commentary and fantastic show! I read these books over 50 years ago when I was a young boy! I have always loved it and it sent me on a road of loving scifi all my life. The changes you have made are thoughtful, and truly fantastic and I believe Asimov would have loved them all. Thank you both for making my life richer for engaging in this creative, wonderful work!!!

@frasermanley9903 8 ай бұрын

Holy moly David S Goyer, sort out a decent mic. You're making the best grand sci-fi show, a good mic should be easy to come by.

@RumChocolates 8 ай бұрын

Given their mentalist abilities, I would love for Gaal & Salvor's mother/daughter relationship to grow in a way where they don't have to "talk" to talk to each other. It would be cool to see Gaal lead the Mentalists to take advantage of the galactic time delay they appear to have on Ignis. I am still wondering about Hari's home world version of Foundation. He and Raych were at first headed to Helios, a hidden planet.

@cmacmenow 8 ай бұрын

Most probably the best Tv series I have ever seen and I have seen a lot over the past 50 years. Beautiful designed, adapted, directed,shot and acted. Worthy of many awards and accolades. Well done to you David and all your creative team. And a special shout out to Roxann Dawson on directing parts here in Ireland. Hope the weather was perfect for her and the crew! What a trip.What a voyage.

@jimmyolsenblues 8 ай бұрын

Thank you David, most showrunners wouldn't do this. Ever. Thank you David.

@youngzoe305 8 ай бұрын

I was looking for new shows to watch and i stumbled across foundation and silo... dope ass shows im glad i found them

@elizaveta_ra 8 ай бұрын

It's already my favorite show

@ejoy78 8 ай бұрын

Wow, Roxanne Dawson directed this ep? As a longtime fan of ST, I am impressed!

@MJ-ge6jz 8 ай бұрын

Mr. Peppers I have to say it was a true haiku to have this interview with David Goyer. It gives you great creds as to what you do.

@andrewwhitfield5480 8 ай бұрын

This channel is my favorite for the content produced. Sadly I was unable to watch this video due to the quality of audio. I tried turning up the volume and turning down the bass all the way and still couldn't understand most of what David was saying. I hope something can be done to improve the audio quality in the future. I understand that under the circumstance audio testing was probably limited if it was done at all. As always, much love to Pete for all his dedication and work.

@PeterHamiltonz 8 ай бұрын

Massive score getting David on. Well done, Pete.

@TheMarquescalwile 8 ай бұрын

I think I’m in love with the robot 😂

@SavannahSedai 8 ай бұрын

I've never read the books, and because it's so different I don't plan on it because this is HANDS DOWN one of the best tv shows I've ever seen. And I watch a ton of tv 😂

@SC-RGX7 8 ай бұрын

I don't want to wait 2 more years for another season 😭

@adventuresinportland3032 8 ай бұрын

Some of my favorite things about the show are things that absolutely were not from the novels. The Cleon brothers for example.

@jasonyu1887 8 ай бұрын

the audio on David's side could have been better. appreciate the interview and videos!

@crystalclear8604 8 ай бұрын

Agree, it was difficult to hang in there to listen to the conversation for me, sadly.

@marcofabiocarosi2996 8 ай бұрын

I absolutely love the narration the characterisation of this show. I’m so grateful for the richness of the themes way beyond the books. My bet is that Demerzel personifies the great empress portrayed in the Palace. I would like to highlight that Hari Seldon is acting a lot like those unique people outside the canon of the psychohistory. Why this is not commented at all? My other big question at the end of episode 9 is who survived on Terminus.

@muffyjohnson7458 8 ай бұрын

God bless Pete I discovered this wonderful show through him (his season 1 recap) like others bought an Apple subscription to watch - bravo

@mugglescakesniffer3943 8 ай бұрын

Roxanne was B'elana Torres. She was great. When I saw her name I was like so excited.

@lauriewoods8018 8 ай бұрын

Loved this last episode, watched it multiple times. I love this show.

@user-bi3uh5md2t 8 ай бұрын

Gaal was barely mentioned in this interview, while she is supposed to be the most intelligent people in the universe, even above and beyond Hari, she more often than not comes across as unlikable and incompetent where she needs to be put in her place, told off by Hari or slapped by Salvor. The best part of this show is the Cleonic Empire and its implications, Demerzel and Hari. Salvor has alot of potential as well.

@calvinpaul4456 8 ай бұрын

Very good interview Mr Scoville

@rini6 8 ай бұрын

I felt like Hari’s death was an illusion. But the question is “Who created the illusion?” And “Why?”

@kilgary 8 ай бұрын

Definitely not Salvor because she still has her mentalic training wheels on. She still gets fooled by Fake Hugo. Like 8x in one episode!

@freebird6591 8 ай бұрын

Kalli engineered his clone body to survive because she is the radiant manifest externally. Or shes a psychic robot... with a physical and digital versions like Hari that has fused with the radiant. She handles the outliers until the second foundation can start doing it themselves further down the line. Antithesis of the Mule in every way except for influence and limited control.

@luvcherry 8 ай бұрын

my theory was that he has a robot body manufactured by the cave lady so he could just pretend to drown and wait until the right moment came to escape

@jemborg 8 ай бұрын

@@luvcherry yes, that "cave lady" is a mystery. I was wondering if that was R.Daneel myself. Asimov wrote a lot about robots who's laws were circumvented. It always f them up, like R.Gisgard. That is, until Daneel wrote the Zeroth Law.

@VHBEngines 8 ай бұрын

Daneel is demerzel. That character had been drastically changed

@LMarti13 8 ай бұрын

David's point about some "book purists" misunderstanding the books is SPOT ON. I can't tell you how many times I've seen this online. I've also seen it a lot with The Rings of Power.

@themiddleman781 8 ай бұрын

Great to see the channel growing so much!

@mirarstudios 8 ай бұрын

It's an amazing update to the source material and also visually spectacular. Plus fantastic actors. This season completely won me over.

@harvey1965 8 ай бұрын

100% agree with everything you just wrote; its spectacular!

@jguo52 8 ай бұрын

Thank you Pete and David for doing this. I’ve been SOOO obsessed with this season and love your deep dive interviews with the actual creators. Can’t wait for the next one. ❤

@MrDlenrek 8 ай бұрын

Really enjoying your series on Foundation. Thanks! They really add to the enjoyment of watching the series

@hugogoncalves1565 8 ай бұрын

Very difficult book to adapt to TV. but they are doing a good job. The books cover thousands of years and it would be extremely difficult to create empathy with the characters if they changed in each season. very creative the way they resolved this situation these writers deserve the raise

@tiborsramek 8 ай бұрын

fantastic show and interview, many thanks for the work of both of you, I love how open he is

@mugglescakesniffer3943 8 ай бұрын

Thanks for this interview it was such a nice thing to hear your back and forth conversation.

@orbis17 8 ай бұрын

s2 has been fantastic, and these deep dives just make the experience better. ps can't believe you got the showrunner on to chat with. Love seeing you blow up, Pete, your content deserves this kind of success!

@cancelebi8939 8 ай бұрын

Thanks for the interview

@beadragon1048 8 ай бұрын

Pete, you are my hero, another video from my favorite channel and with the great Mr. Goyer! This was awesome! Thx

@idea2go 8 ай бұрын

Thanks for a great interview. REQUEST: If you haven’t conducted the second interview yet, please include a few moments to discuss brother Constan. Although not as dramatic a protagonist as many of the more showy characters, I think having her there provided some great depth to make events seem real, and she was a wonderful foil for the Poly character (he gets my top rating this season for his portrayal!).

@JohnnyZenith 8 ай бұрын

David has helped create a magnificent series. I love him.

@bigc7t 8 ай бұрын

Great stuff, just keeps getting better and better. Thank you

@etiennegarant7545 8 ай бұрын

I loved that interview! But please Mr. Goyer, for the love of the Galactic Spirit please use a microphone

@speakgeekstudio1867 8 ай бұрын

The show is amazing and I love your insightful breakdowns and analysis. This was a great interview as well. I can’t wait for the finale!

@philipcasasnovas1792 8 ай бұрын

Amazing episode amazing interview big fan since I found you last season keep up the great work can’t wait to tune in for the finale breakdown be safe

@Darkwater2013 8 ай бұрын

I wanted to take a moment and thank you for your content. I have been a mostly silent viewer for about 2 years now and your videos are consistently insightful and sometimes point me to interesting shows that I may have missed otherwise. This is true for Foundation, back when Season 1 first came out. It is always interesting to get a second perspective on episodes, mostly with similar opinions, but sometimes pointing things out I missed. Showrunner interviews like this one really say a lot about how well you do those companion videos to episodes, because it shows how even the people behind the show see the value your videos provide. Commenting on a tv show isn't a difficult thing to do on paper, but delivering consistent high quality coverage that isn't just a retelling does take effort and some thought, like what to focus on and what to mostly ignore, as well as what to leave out to avoid potential spoilers when source material is sometimes part of the content. So in short, thank you for doing such a good job.

@kajenbop 8 ай бұрын

2 days ago I knew nothing of foundation, either the books nor the show. I’ve since binged every episode and I think it’s amazing. Please give us all8 seasons lol

@antelopedon6341 8 ай бұрын

Great conversation, Pete and David. Fascinating to get insights into how the tv adaptation is really exploring themes from the full book series and Asimov’s other works. Episode 209 was a great piece of television.