Still half of these changes were just completly stupid.

@@conkerlive101 Which ones? I think most changes re pretty neat

@@noborsu8481 yeah, changes were nice

If lucky break was able to reset as long as you were able to heal within the timer , then it would have been a meta perk . We would have had changes .

So yea the timer Pauses as you said so that means it will only be active for 90 secs for the entire game then it’s deactivated. It will force survivors to heal faster to not waste their seconds, it could (maybe) be easily countered with nurses. Also I may be wrong but doesn’t lucky break only activate after getting unhooked?

Honestly pallet Freddy for me is what makes him kinda fun. I find snares to be boring as hell

I'd rather face the snare, pallets as a solo player are beyond fuckin annoying.

@@KOHoxton IMO It’s a lot more fun to play against pallet Freddy since it takes skill such as remembering what pallets has been used, looking for what pallet placements and if it makes sense as well as looking at the Freddie’s behavior during a loop etc. Just all around less brain dead snare spam, it also makes Freddy a lot harder to play in a good way.

@@KOHoxton You ever go against them with Small Game on? God it's so fun. Well, until the upcoming nerf to Small Game comes out🤣

@@VFG204 legit I only used the pallets cuz it’s fun

i play the twins and really only slug the same amount as i would with a normal killer

Yep, completely ignored what made them awful to play against- camping And then made what already makes them awful- the ability to kill victor after he successfully downs someone- and then amplified it Whats the point of using victor for downs if someone in a different ZIP code and come over and completely nullify the down u just made

im gonna break my monitor sitting there for 5 seconds after every kill

Imagine you’re using Victor and you have to eat a DS stun every time you do anything. God that must be so much fun to do as a killer, just stand there and do nothing after using your power.

Hahahah

Actually, yes. For most of jigsaw's traps you can just choose death and most often it just involves standing still - a.k.a. not playing the game. It's actually the big brain strat since there's no DC penalties for those traps...

Pig: 😏

Amanda: Am I a joke to you?!

@@TalonBrush technically you get perma banned if you don't do anything.

I mean bubba's can still counter borrowed pretty well tho

until bubba remembers he can chainsaw through bt

The first aspect of the Borrowed time change is nice, but the shorter endurance status effect is Ridiculous.We will see a new Wait the Duration Status effect Meta.Shame,especially after Ds and Object Nerf

@@TheKing-wf9es Maybe it's that you don't realize how long 12 seconds is in a dead by daylight match, but it's still enough time for the survivor to get to a safe loop, and use it once endurance runs out

@@TheKing-wf9es yeah, i feel like they are still too afraid to buff good perks, even if it is a really plausible aspect... like why should only freddy wraith etc. get to ignore bt? that was stupid and needed looking into, like they finally did. But that change doesn't warrant nerfing bt overall. and additionally before bt was basically a guarantee to get a safe unhook and not get penalized for trying to help your teammates even if the killer comes back to every hook, but now they have a 3 second window to do this even if you equipped bt...

Fax lmao

Maybe that was their intention...

He's called 'The Nightmare' for a reason. When he's in the trial, it's actually a nightmare to go against him. A game is played for fun, but the reverse happens with him.

Status effect: narcolepsy

Well yeah, he is pretty boring.

TRUEEEEEEEEEEE devs know what needs to be changed but they dont know what changes to do

😂😂😂like hag traps. Omg the low IQ of devs

He does get slowed so the survivors could have enough time to get to another tile.

@@Insanity-vv9nn reducing her maximum amount of traps actually nerfs her since shes a set-up killer made to shut down multiple loops at once

@@alextorres5467 way worse than Snares.

@@wolfrex2721 found the potato lol

Almo is probably the dumbest guy on earth tbh he probably thinks Legion is S tier

He called them WHAT????????

@@deathmetalhellokitty9724 Not sure about him being the dumbest guy on earth, but I do think that he should step down from the game after making so many incorrect decisions that just anger the playerbase

Agreed, I think they should have made Iri heads reloaded themselves if you get a hit on the survivor.

@@dogwalter3655 that’s extremely overpowered IMO...

@@mikaylab7113 I asume he's saying that instead of insta down

@@mikaylab7113 I think it'd be a cool change if they removed the 1 shot aspect, but as is I agree

@@mikaylab7113 blight has a purple add-on with this power, so it wouldn't be the first time.

Im gonna miss finding killer traps with it tho

@@vulpinequeen9269 maps tho

@@vulpinequeen9269 Did people use it that much to find traps? It's a gamble whether or not you're going to get a killer with traps, plus a map with Red Twine will still be able to track them.

oh i dont know why i read that in reverse, woops

Feelz bad man

well its portals were flawed so while they didnt get the main problems they made part of its problems less bad or fixed

Honestly it was just his Addons and portals that needed buffing and that's what they did his other stuff is already fine

They didn't make rat liver base kit ☹️

@@fluffybum204 his portals were fine, his only problem is moving slower than survivors while holding shred these changes were like, whatever for good demo mains

@@frankiewardale4324 Only one addon got a buff. lol The other addon is crap.

Dead Dawg Saloon from the Deathslinger patch.

@@Anon-kv9jr Not daytime, definitely a sunset type of thing

Fuck, it's Dead by Midday to Afternoon now

dead by tommorow but not before noon because its still dark out before Daylight

no they are just dead in daylight now

That's true, but I think that they want to keep the focus on his teleports and nerf everything else.

@@BDeity ironically his TP is the thing that needs heavy nerfs or flat out deletion

IMO they should just remove the option of faking a teleport.

@@white_moon3685 i dont wanna call you deluded but that is very untrue

The snares are super anti loop, he still kinda keeps that too even though he will be a bit slowed down

Stridor will still counter the lucky break/iron will combo, Good spirits won’t have anything to worry about

@@123darkpassenger it will *kind of* counter it but it won't bring the scratches back and you'll only hear them at 25%

bring no mither + iron will to counter stridor

@@Unknown-oc1kt But with No Mither you can't run Lucky Break then.

Turn up your volume, you can still greatly hear survivors footsteps. Spirit is not affected.

I don't like that you'll be right

1000%. They’re also gonna add breakable walls to the cowshed and the rancid abattoir to make the windows an infinite without being broken. Additionally, I’m calling it now, they’re gonna change the perk icon for small game.

Who knows at this point these map reworks are very inconsistent with fixing infinites like the Ironworks of Misery loop doesn’t have a breakable wall

The Coldswind Farm Rework is the first Rework,where they can test these Reworked Maps without Breakable Walls.I mean Breakable walls annoy both sides extremely.And both hate them.But they still ad them.Especially after the Game Rework they should see how bad they are

@@TheKing-wf9es they're never gonna remove breakable walls.

I'll drink to that, hoping HsH will become a rival to DBD

Yeah bhvr really needs some healthy competition

Back in the day Friday 13th was a good game to have some Fun with. It wasn't so competitive as dbd but it was the closest one in the genre. I hope HSH really manages to be on top along with dbd. It is a incentive to Behaviour work more on their game and all players end up winning. I just think HSH deserves more advertisements and of course, I expect it to be released on other platforms. Releasing on PS plus would be a good incentive to play it I guess. Just like fall guys did.

It's about time BHVR starts thinking about the market more seriously. Take the players' opinions on-board rather than a customary 'board-room meeting'. Let's go. A good competition is always great; more variety, diversity and at the end better game quality.

None of these changes seem enjoyable. Ngl. Lucky break and BT buffs are painful, Fuck freddy in the face harder, huntress is still huntress with the ability to be 115.

It’s still op. That’s at least 2 chases

Lucky Break gets reset if you heal iirc, so it can be used multiple times. Unless that time stacks?

@@iAmPimmiCue no that doesn’t happen, the timer pauses

@@danielarchuleta4415 If you can manage to get healed immediately, sure.

@afoxy20 Then the perk is bugged because last time I used everytime I healed myself the perk got reset and I got to use lucky break basically all the match. Lets hope this bug is removed when this perk change goes live

I like it

sounds like a cool idea

Im a bit late, but it would scare the crap out of me if i got moonshot on death hook by one of those

had about 10 survivor DCs and one killer yesterday during an endurance stream. I get that some are probably just deranking, but geez

Wiggling is still going to kill joysticks on controllers more than anything.

@@JakeobE I doubt it's very hard on the joystick to merely spin the stick around

I've been using a macro to struggle for a year now. This is actively worse

@@Phantom-kc9ly not everyone has a macro to struggle though

@lime pie I’ve fucked up three controllers from struggling

I think it honestly looks great cus with the corn and dust the daylight wont actually be an issue except for blendettes which is fantastic

Fill me in?

The funny thing is, they said they weren't planning on changing this mechanic to skillchecks. Classic BHVR.

@@LeeTheSecond button mashing on controllers for long periods of time causes repetitive strain injuries in your hand/wrist so moving away from button mashing to skill check will save a lot of people from hand injuries and will be more accessible for those with RSI or carpal tunnel (and will also save some controller wear as well)

@@greenbrickbox3392 cool

@@Elsuya_Milo as far as i am aware they said they would never make it not automatic not they wouldnt change it

If you have a really good survivor group a match wont last longer than 6 minutes. 1 and a half minute is so fricking much .....

I would still rather see Lucky break to just remove blood trails for the whole game than to just work 90 seconds with scratch marks.

I meant to say it pauses, Ill clarify in a pinned comment

@@defendmoon6813 Which is why I said that it might end up being extremely strong, but Scott said that it would reset (which would be completely ridiculous), but it does not. So the perk is quite a lot weaker than Scott thinks and I want to emphasize that I want Bhvr to push the boundaries a little bit as long as they nerf them fast enough. We have never had a perk close to this so I think it will be interesting to see how strong it will be.

@@RandomPerson-yq1qk "We have never had a perk close to this" *LAUGHS IN OLD MoM*

Yep. Sounds like it's gonna be super op

@@LeeTheSecond i mean it would be kinda op if mom was super easy to activate which it is not

i'm sorry

What is MOM?

@@beenie3708 mettle of man, taking 3 protection hits grants you endurance status while injured, letting you take an extra hit

Sweet, delicious, succulent C O M P E T I T I O N and D I S R U P T I V E I N N O V A T I O N

So unbelievably dumb how they thought 90 Seconds seems like a good number

@@harrisonw6065 Reminds me of the time Scott was talking about Path Of Exile and how they would ridiculously buff certain things to shake up the meta

@@harrisonw6065 im pretty sure lucky break is deactivated for the rest of the trial once it runs out, so its a trade off

Yes because there were totally no perks before that didnt hide your scratch marks

Classic scoot

Drink edging

It's called drink faking, it's a new tech.

time stamp?

@@gremlin5813 around 4:40

All they need to rework is stridor.... 150% is too much and too boring to go against

@Nate Higgers if you have ears, you dont need scratch marks or blood. Thats how spirit works and thats why shes boring to go against

@Nate Higgers you just need the sound that stridor provides

Honestly just bring no mither and iron will to hard-counter stridor

Laughs in Iron will, stridor, and no mither

Happens a lot actually One of my friends dies at stage 2 of hook 50% of the time due that

Well you will like the clock change

@@medicspirit You will still go asleep every 90 seconds as you do now. Only thing that change makes it that when you use clock and then you are being found by freddy and hit you won't be asleep, if freddy does not meet you in those 30s after using a clock you will sill go asleep after 90s (30s of pause timer and 60s of normal timer)

Lol freddy is 1 of the most fun killers jajaja

@@gonzalo1010 you must be on drugs while playing against freddy or something

@@imajsstove2907 na, he is top 1 most FUUUNN

If you have lucky break you pretty much lose chase on its own if you run straight

Lucky break, Iron Will, Quick and Quiet, and Inner Strength so less time of that lucky break is wasted!

@Nate Higgers ew small pp build

@Nate Higgers Imagine thinking you *have* to run DS and/or Unbreakable. I never use these perks and I do just fine.

Unless they can heal up fast after chase they won’t get more than one chase out of it

@@medicspirit Exactly, Nurses calling can easily put a damper on the perk in that case.

Sounds fun to use tho

Wait a second to go into frenzy. It already takes away scratch marks.

You loses scratch marks with feral frenzy LOL

Yeah it's like killing yourself in Pyramid Head's cage but easier

I think the point was that mashing a button is just stupid. People will kill themselves, but we don't need to break our keyboards every second hook now

@@OrphansCorpse yes and in the past I've had lag spikes just when I would get hooked so I would miss the first second of struggle and automatically die without my intention. This fixes that.

Who said this is to stop survivors from killing themselves? Maybe you should read up, my dude

@@MofuMofu98 Scott literally said in the video “I think this is to stop survivors from killing themselves” and went on a whole tangent about how you can’t force people to continue playing the game if they don’t want to... but okay 😅 Anyway yeah, it’s nice that they kept the feature in to intentionally die if you want to. Sucks I can’t toxicly give up in my teammate’s face who sandbagged me previously anymore 🙄

I don't. Now it will suck so bad. Any huntress who uses it will simply chase you until you vault and one shot you. This means it's super boring to play as and against.

@@bigbrainonimain9226 bruh, like having 3 of them made that any better

@@bigbrainonimain9226 I mean it's been God tier and boring to go against for years

@@90bubbel60 my guy it was a busted Addon and now it's a garbage boring trash Addon. If they weren't so goddamn lazy and just reworked it then it would have been fine.

*We're slowing making progress*

Yeah i die a lot because button mashing hurts im glad for this change

Oh lord I never even thought of that

Big fucking deal

How often are people using blood warden? And/or how often are they going against super coordinated swfs?

Wouldn’t the gate have to be open and thus start endgame collapse i don’t really see that as broken imo

@@Tk-sh3bf yes but you wasted a perk because they will 100% know that you have it so you can't surprise them anymore and for that time they just need to sent one to the exit gate to have forever aura reading.

No mither cuz screw stridor

*laughs in Stridor*

Screw spirit players, they stink 🤢🤮

@@MuFaSaMoSi i second that, most boring killer in the game by far, even in this patch ill rather go against freddy

@@Skynx99 Doesn't no mither make you silent on the ground?

Did you mean to misspell second wind because you think it's op?

@@LeeTheSecond um

@@LeeTheSecond lol

@@shrekxfiona8659 Bruh your name

@@LeeTheSecond what about it?

Camera-san is getting old don't judge her :'c

Im convinced he's trolling at this point

id prefer if they just make it so it removes the blood but without a timer kinda like iron will

@@reiper that's basically no mither, lucky break would be no mither without the broken and the infinite unbreakable

The good news is that this one at least still has grass, and though we don't know exactly how traps will look here it might be that they're less visible with no coating. Could possibly save on tar bottles and whatnot.

@@mosclone2121 true, maybe. Though I’m honestly gonna guess it’ll just wind up the same as macmillan and auto haven, the grass will be there but instead of the trap being rlly well hidden it’ll be really obvious and visible unless you’re being chased.

Blocking pallets/windows tactic: Am I joke to you?

I agree seems completely pointless it’s so easy to kick victor after he hits someone as it is I don’t think anyone’s that bad that they need 2 extra seconds to do something so easy in the first place, and the iridescents are basically still useless, maybe the idle victor one not as much since survivors love to kick a fucking baby when your not even controlling him, but yeah that twins change seems kinda pointless

@@blackoutplayz9403 the undetectable one is pretty good. You can latch onto them and then come out of nowhere as Charlotte.

@@puppetuppers4806 I agree for the most part except the animation change if they can see Charlotte is very obvious and if you hide Charlotte somewhere first then switch to victor your not being very efficient with managing gens and downing survivors which is the entire point of the twins is that victor just goes around and slugs everyone possible until a 4 man slug where you just win

imagine nerfing the fun part of a killer that few people enjoy and still play

With diet spine chill tacked on

Yeah you say that but you forget he has the best perk in the game BREAKDOWN

@Nate Higgers it doesn’t at all.

you can't kill yourself on hook right away anymore though... it was useful for giving people hatch

@@JedeOff Which is awful in the killer perspective. Why should that person get an easy out when the killer wins the match? Hardly fair.

@@GarethJason it's a 3 for 1, I'd say it's fair in most cases

@@JedeOff you pretty much can lol if the skill checks are as regular as the pyramid head ones then it will take a few seconds since if you miss two in a row you die instantly

Riddle me this: Calm Spirit

@@Emerald1 riddle me that: stridor

@@avy6153 Riddle Me This: Iron Will + No Mither

@@Emerald1 riddle me that: lucky brake will become a dead perk in 1:30 minutes into the match

@@avy6153 I mean in that case you’d just have to be as aggressive as people with old DS, get chased and make them lose you for the minute and a half, but even then that’s just a hard counter to Stridor, the majority of killers won’t use it because it’s shit on not spirits

I mean tbf his add-ons with the exception of the slowdown add-ons and his iri add-ons are mega super diapey dipe.

Freddy without snares is Just a M1 killer, why not use his Power?

The thing is, those are his only good addons, the rest are useless aren't they?

Long games can be fun and are bloodpoint efficient

@@Don11037 holding m1 for longer= fun? Sure

calm spirit instead of iron will? in that case you'll still easily be heard

@@Emerald1 i think he tought of the lithe haste giving you distance and then losing the killer

@@unmasker1053 No I just forgot to put Iron Will in there lmao. But it could work, maybe you get hit by the killer, and they won't really know in what direction you ran towards because your character's not screaming or leaving blood trails or scratch marks. Though the injured breathing might still give it away.

And you get 6% to repair? Like gen’s are broken enough as it is

Every time you see the killers aura or vice versa you get 6% to repair, like literally if the killer hooks four survivors but not you, and your out of range of barbecue, boom. 24% extra so you get gens done in 0.2 seconds, and if everyone else has been hooked to death, it wouldn’t matter, but you would be doing gens at 154% speed, again it would be pointless but the concept itself is dumb

@@blackoutplayz9403 You know 6% is about like 9 seconds saved, + if a killer can see your aura every 30 seconds then it's safe to say the OoO user is taking agro instead of pushing gens. Not op since only one obsession benefits from the boost

He doesnt need more nerfs, he wasnt even a top 5 killer.

@@typervader yeah he is

They had to incentivise them in some way. There was almsot never a situation where it was smarter to wake up than just gen jockey.

@@typervader he is easily top 5. Snares are complete anti loop + arguably the best map control in the game. Plus he takes zero skill to play. Id rather play against Spirit than freddy

Well, that was how it worked initially when it first came out

It does (I think Scott misspoke) but what also happens is, that the timer stops when you get healed. So theoretically you could start a chase with a killer, get hit and dissapear with the help of the perk and the speed from the hit. Heal up, and maybe only lose like 20-30 seconds. So you can get a lot of usage out of it. Its technically like having "ds" it only give you 1 minute where you could use it, but if the killer downs you and leaves you for that 1 minute, you will still have it for 1 minute again next hook. We will have to see how strong it is, but I do agree with Scott that 90 seconds out of this is pretty insane.

@@Towerofhell Just for the sake of getting informed, does the timer continue to decrease as you are downed and/or hooked? Cause if it does the perk is actually pretty bad...

@@elstrangeenemy887 Pretty sure it doesn't. (from logic stand-point why would it? +I don't think these count as "injured" per say)

@@elstrangeenemy887 Ah sry I forgot to say it also pauses if you get downed. The timer that is. Probably restarts when you get unhooked.

@Nate Higgers at least there’s an audible footstep sound to Q&Q. Iron will is just stupid

@Nate Higgers it doesn’t, but sounds are really buggy in this game so half the time footsteps are silent anyway

Thats been scoots idea, although at 20+ or 24+ meters if I am not mistaken

@@zombiefinatic7033 should just rework it so you dont get an instadown but you get 1 hatchet back if you hit a survivor.

@@kyrax9462 I mean maybe I have only been playing like a year or so, Scotts more the expert in logistics shit. I was just expelling my knowledge on what he has said about his ideas on a Irri head rework.

he’s still op

If he's bad that means he's not boring which is good

this is a wonderful idea, but can we call it something other than a euphemism for needing to take a shit?

Freddy now has 2 good add-ons. His iridescent add-ons and only paint brush is really even that good.

The survivor perk buffs were actually fairly conservative. Lol

@@mikaylab7113 Yeah that's fair. Just having a laugh. Its fairly promising to see a bigger buff rather than the usual buff that we get on perks that don't have any effect on the survivor perk rosters before or after the changes.

@@veetinyman6872 agreed. It’s also nice to see old outdated perks getting a little facelift for usability. The meta gets stale.

yeah I think its funny that snowballing was the only non-camping thing Twins could do, and now that it's gone it'll just be camping

that's literally the only thing i enjoy doing when i play the twins... i'm always in victor mode just finding survivors and downing them... then picking up whoever i can with charlotte. what i can't stand is being constantly punished by a nearby survivor kicking me when i down someone... then they heal the slugged person so wtf is the point of being good at victor?

This is the best comment

Inner strength, q&q, iron will, lucky break... disgusting

The asleep changes hard nerf the teleport with more ppl being awake and ruining its cooldown

They deleted it from the game bro

@@invi.sk98 to make it basekit?

@@reiper No it’s gone completely

@@invi.sk98 but wasn't it supposed to be a buff?

@@reiper Hahahahaha no