What is your CALISTHENICS LEVEL? | + Tom Merrick's Survey Walkthrough

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Calisthenics is a sport that grows in recognition every day. Due to popular events, online celebrities and viral videos more and more people want to try their hand in bodyweight training. As the popularity increases, a natural thing would be to create some kind of standards, allowing us to access an athlete's level. This kind of standarts could provide lots of benefits and opportunities. It could be for instance a great reference point for all kinds of tutorials or competitions and would allow to create a certain order based on difficulty of exercises. We can see that working pretty well in other sports like for example powerlifting or gymnastics, which is a sport calisthenics takes a lot from. We can hear many times terms like "advanced calisthenics". But how can we determine what creates the needed requirements? At the end of the day we still don't have any universal form of accessing level in calisthenics - that would be applicable and measurable in at least majority of cases. This fact made me question the whole concept.
Is this idea even realistic and worth trying to introduce? Or maybe there are certain barriers that for some reasons don't allow us to classify our sport's elements in any logical way? Today I will do my best to analyze this matter and try to find the answer to this question. The second part of this video is a bonus that might be interesting for you to watch as well. Im gonna complete a survey created by Tom Merrick and hopefully find out how my abilities present against bodyweight athletes population. Enjoy
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TOM MERRICK'S SURVEY
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@dmolinaro 4 жыл бұрын

Man you already know this, but I am not tired of saying it. Your channel is becoming better and better, you're basically creating a niche for people who actually wanna think and do calisthenics at the same time (something that should be common but it's clearly not ahah) and I'll always be open to helping you in this cause. Been on the bandwagon since day 1 and I'm not getting down anytime soon ;)

@FrinksmovementTV 4 жыл бұрын

Im gonna cry for real. Thank you brother you are always such a support no matter what happens. I truly, truly appreciate that and really can't wait to train with you one day.

@anthonywilson1754 2 жыл бұрын

@@FrinksmovementTV Eric! I just found your channel today and you already spoke to a deep void I've been trying to find out what it was that would fill it. I love the depth of research (?), thought, and quality of content you pack in. One thing I missed is a good coach. I had gymnastics coaches for 14 years and older gymnasts who made me better. When I got training with wrestlers and other high school athletes to add a lot of lean muscle from weight training (for hypertrophy) and taking punches I had a group of guys to coach me. After I left high school I found I missed most was a core group of guys to challenge me to be my best. Pandemic killed lots of things but mostly the tight friendships who would journey with me through even the shit they put up with me. Thanks, Eric.

@FrinksmovementTV 2 жыл бұрын

@@anthonywilson1754 I appreciate your words Anthony, Im really glad the videos speak to you and you can somehow relate to them

@anthonywilson1754 2 жыл бұрын

@@FrinksmovementTV It's really hard to express how they hit me so well. I watched parts again and thought some and watched again. You have a gift. And please don't freak out by how I train. I feel pieces are falling in place. I really feel the need to challenge my body physically and have that plan now. Thanks.

@PranjayVarshney 4 жыл бұрын

Man I love your content. Very underrated channel.

@FrinksmovementTV 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you brother! I really appreciate your support and your comments. Makes the whole thing worth the effort

@FrinksmovementTV 4 жыл бұрын

What's up fellas! I hope you're all hold strong during this hard situation we all deal with. Wherever you are and whatever you go through I send you all my support. I hope this video will give you some joy and provoke some thoughts. You can find all the links in the description and of course tell me, how do YOU see this whole rant? Is it visible to create some bodyweight standards?

@ishaqsaleem1627 4 жыл бұрын

The quality here is unreal. Keep doing your thing not seeing content like this anywhere else

@FrinksmovementTV 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you soo much my friend! Its just the beggining ;)

@christiant.9039 3 жыл бұрын

Another swimmer right here. I can absolutely relate to being better at pulling. Really struggling with Handstand Pushups and overhead pressing in general, while Muscle Ups, Front Lever etc. feels much more natural to me.

@medd6880 3 жыл бұрын

I used to be a competitive swimmer, i reached 4 sec front lever and one arm pull up in one and a half year of calisthenics, still i have tuck planche. Also check out Manuel Caruso, he used to be a swimmer too, and he Is a god when it comes to pulling strenght

@erald6598 3 жыл бұрын

I also know that Manuel Caruso was a swimmer and he is a beast at pulling

@Philipp_-cp2xw 3 жыл бұрын

Me to, I am 184cm tall and weight 82kg and still can hold a full front lever. I also can do a lot of muscle ups, one arm pull ups and a 6 sec victorian but I can't do a handstand, handstand push ups or a straddle planche. I used to swim and climb alot when I was a kid, maybe my back muscles including my spine got really strong with it.

@gustavwiden7039 4 жыл бұрын

Your videos deserve sooo much more recognition! Always quality content. Looking forward to the next one!

@FrinksmovementTV 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much! New one in making ;)

@MpPalumbo 4 жыл бұрын

Great video frinks! Your analysis & pursuit of truth in regards to bodyweight training is what sets you apart from other channels, and I genuinely appreciate the amount of time and energy you put into your work. Looking forward to seeing more quality content you release in the future.

@FrinksmovementTV 4 жыл бұрын

Much appreciated! Im more motivated than ever! And these comments like your contribute to that the most. Thank you so much!

@SZgun 3 жыл бұрын

This guy is the most underrated calisthenics researcher in yt. Hoping you get big in the future cause u deserve it bro

@sonnycampbell8686 4 жыл бұрын

Love how in depth the breakdown of the subject is even though there is no objective standards. The quality of these videos is top notch.

@FrinksmovementTV 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you as always! New coming soon. I hope this week i will manage

@drexeagler2746 3 жыл бұрын

We need more of this calisthenics nerdcore info. Great channel, bro!

@nemanjavasiljevic1243 3 жыл бұрын

The philosophical component in this channel is really great.

@012workout 4 жыл бұрын

Nice video man ! I also wanted to talk about level in calisthenics. You did it very well ! Your editing is improving, it's amazing ! Keep doing good stuff

@FrinksmovementTV 4 жыл бұрын

Fantastic brother! Im excited to hear your opinion on the topic ;) If you plan to make a video about it, im waiting ;)

@AnnuTekky 3 жыл бұрын

what a video mann loved every part of it

@dolevmazker736 3 жыл бұрын

very nice channel man, ur pretty strong on calisthenics man. like watching this in depth anylsis of calisthenics

@user-mg2vp1cb7z 3 жыл бұрын

Your channel is incredible bro 👌 subbed

@willemtrahn8063 3 жыл бұрын

6:35 I‘m a Climber and there was a time, where I did more Pull Ups than Push Ups, so I can prove that. around 12 Pull Ups and around 10-12 Push Ups

@FrinksmovementTV 3 жыл бұрын

Someone's still here?? 😆 Well I wanted to bring your attention to something that i would add to the video if was doing it today. Manuel Caruso - who Im sure you are familiar with has recently posted on his IG that he achieved his first 90 degree pushup - mind you, its a guy who was doing MALTESE. I achieved my 90 degree pushup a year ago, but i dont have any.. ANY business to even attempt full planche, not even talking maltese... Just wanted to add it, to prove my point ;) Oh and got couple of new Swimmers examples... maybe im gonna do a vid on it for real haha frinksmovement.com/coaching/ - book consultation / apply for coaching / programming frinksmovement.com/contact/ - questions regarding coaching, cooperation/business, videos www.gornation.com - 10% Discount on Calisthenics Clothing & Equipment with the code "frinks"

@tttakkkumi 3 жыл бұрын

Wow, that’s an interesting fact

@FrinksmovementTV 3 жыл бұрын

@@tttakkkumi Yeah brother!

@cheelive9548 3 жыл бұрын

Manuel Caruso is an Italian beast🔥🔥

@MassimoKokhno 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for putting some of my leg moves in the video and good analysis of the standards topic. I think the Overcoming Gravity charts by Steven Low are one of the best approaches so far, he rated various progressions by level assuming someone who is not genetically biased towards pulling vs pushing etc. and two different movement patterns have the same level if that hypothetical person would take the same time to reach them. Each level is something like a 1-3 rm if dynamic or 6 seconds if an isometric hold or 9 seconds if an eccentric, and the levels are from the contribution of various athletes, not sure about the sample size. It's not an ideal approach since we all have different limb proportions, tendon insertion length, fast twitch vs slow twitch fiber proportions for different muscles etc., but similar approaches with a large sample of athletes could be useful.

@FrinksmovementTV 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you once again. Really appreciate the contribution. When it comes to this Steven Low's chart I did not know about it. Gotta look it up.

@MassimoKokhno 4 жыл бұрын

docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19l4tVfdTJLheLMwZBYqcw1oeEBPRh8mxngqrCz2YnVg/ And the author answered some questions about the charts here: www.reddit.com/r/overcominggravity/comments/acvssx/question_about_interpreting_the_progression/

@FrinksmovementTV 4 жыл бұрын

Great! Thank you!

@user-mm7hq9wc2u 17 күн бұрын

Unlike most of the channels this guy seems to be more relatable

@sedativeman 3 жыл бұрын

Excellent work!!

@arnaudjouanin7561 3 жыл бұрын

very well crafted video bro! You're definitely a pusher :D 90%+ military press is pretty insane! (and 90° full)! just wanna say pistol and shrimp squat: it depends .. for me shrimp is easier than pistol (where you need a pretty flexible ankle)

@anthonywilson1754 2 жыл бұрын

Also your hanging leg raises at 15:15 is what I grew up doing. As a young impressional gymnast I met Brandon Wynn and he gave us tips on hanging leg raises and half leg raises. (See his hanging leg abs tutorial here--kzfaq.info/get/bejne/kK1mad2Z2beckmw.html) I was maybe 12 when I met him. Also I started doing hanging leg raises from the girl's uneven bars--you hang from the lower bar with your butt a few inches off the mat with your legs out and heels on the mat. Then you use only your abdominals to bring toes to bar. Those will make your abs pop and make your lower 2 rows of abdominal muscle amazingly strong and rock hard. When I took punches guys would pound away all day on my bottom 2 rows while I'm held a full nelson. Abdominals are amazing muscles and so much fun to train. In high school part of my abs training was high reps and that meant doing as many reps to failure. Then later goal is to do more reps. On hanging leg raises in gymnastics we would do as many reps as we could do without dismounting--we could rest but had to keep holding the bar switching hands as needed. I grew up on the bar from age 4 and so I usually won all hanging leg raise contests in USA. I could do over 100 most days if arms weren't too over trained for the day. The other trick is 1-arm hanging leg raises. So to the question is which skills to test people in? In many bar workouts guys take punches to their abs while hanging from the bar. Does those count as something to be tested? I like your approach to this level question.

@JakubKowalski93 4 жыл бұрын

This is the content I want to make but I need to learn editing first lol. Good observations and I noticed same thing with the swimmers. When it comes to Pike Push Ups, if you do them right then 20 on the floor is gonna be really hard. Feet elevated might be easier than proper floor ones if you have a lot of the weight on the feet and if you open your chest a lot at the bottom.

@FrinksmovementTV 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Really appreciate it! Yeah might have exaggerated with these pike pushups. And this swimmers phenomenon is really intriguing hahah

@dmolinaro 4 жыл бұрын

Don't discriminate me for my background Jakub :(

@FrinksmovementTV 4 жыл бұрын

@@dmolinaro Feeling sorry for you Davide ;(

@navin2850 4 жыл бұрын

Most knowledgeable videos about Calisthenics

@FrinksmovementTV 4 жыл бұрын

Appreciate that ❤️👍

@TypowyFitnesiak 4 жыл бұрын

And the quality...just wow

@FrinksmovementTV 4 жыл бұрын

@@TypowyFitnesiak ❤️

@sameersiddiqui7139 4 жыл бұрын

Keep it coming, good content

@FrinksmovementTV 4 жыл бұрын

This week! 👍 Thank you

@felixupsidedown2218 4 жыл бұрын

You are a beast!

@FrinksmovementTV 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you 👍

@piotrrkacperr4262 4 жыл бұрын

Finally watched. There's few calisthenics channels actually creating quality content. Yours is one of them, well done! Plus, editing and humor make the videos interesting and basically awesome :D

@FrinksmovementTV 4 жыл бұрын

Haha! Thank you so much! Gonna continue developing this style ;)

@Delta3angle 3 жыл бұрын

So I think it's actually most useful in terms of training to categorize it into two groups. Novice and post novice. truthfully outside of the novice stage there isn't too much difference in training or programming aside from how much volume and intensity that individual needs to elicit a training response. But there's no hard line to determine when they can be considered advanced. It's also highly individual because everyone has different training sensitivities. Powerlifting is somewhat easy to create proficiency groups for based on percentiles and weight classes. It's also a simpler sport where the only thing that matters is moving an external load from point A to point B within the confines of the rules. Calisthenics is a bit more complex with regards to judging.

@coachcam1002 4 жыл бұрын

Awesome video bro! 😎 I'm wondering the connection between weighted pullup and weighted muscle up. Are there athletes with a disproportionately heavy MU compared to their 1RM Pull-up? Also to what extent does adding muscle help with weighted pullup, or could it even decrease performance? Should Cali athletes program hypertrophy and strength months apart in order to not interfere with the adaptations?

@FrinksmovementTV 4 жыл бұрын

Man that's even stepping up then! Do you have some specific examples? Because that's gonna kill the whole idea, both moves are basically vertical pulls

@anthonywilson1754 2 жыл бұрын

I agree it is hard to assess an individual's level without deciding what should be counted. It would not be fair to take every gymnastics skill and assess even all other gymnasts that way. I did all around and felt "ok" in most and then specialized in high bar and p-bars. I think if I focused only on high bar OR p-bar then I could have ranked higher in those events. But I liked doing it all even if (specificity again!) doing everything caused me to suffer in individual events.

@dmgfwafja7344 2 жыл бұрын

I used to do swimming and yes, my pulling is stronger than my push

@khaosxv9250 4 жыл бұрын

Amazing

@FrinksmovementTV 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Cheers!

@ruthhuijgens 3 жыл бұрын

First of all thanks a bunch for keeping this channel up, the content you bring is magnificent and it helps me a lot in my progress! I have a question, the exercise that you do in this video at 8:58, what is is called?

@aiden.117 3 жыл бұрын

Dragon flag

@minhkhoi_sw 4 жыл бұрын

Maybe because Dominik Sky has practice the Handstand since he was a kid and now his Handstand Push up is incredible Maybe because I had practice Jumping Rope since I was a kid and now my Lower Body Endurance is Beast

@minhkhoi_sw 4 жыл бұрын

My upper body sucks

@FrinksmovementTV 4 жыл бұрын

Well man exactly thats the point! I think what i presented here is just the representation of why specificity of training is KING. You are good at what you practice. Have a nice day 🙏🏻

@Paroex 3 жыл бұрын

I used to go to the website Strengthlevel.com because they have large databases of all kinds of lifts, like deadlift, squat, bench press, pull-ups, dips, push-ups etc. They collect people's bodyweight and lifting stats, and then use a statistical distribution to come up with set goals for different levels of strength, from beginner to elite. But then I realized something. I looked at the "advanced" strength level for pull-ups at my weight at the time, and saw that it was 21 reps. And that was an ambitious but theoretically feasible goal for me to strive for. And I realized that I was at least 7 reps off my target. However, when I looked at people on KZfaq who managed 20+ pull-ups, I saw that their form was breaking down like crazy after 15 or sometimes even 10 reps. Meaning that while their first 10 or so reps may have been done with an immobile lower body and zero use of momentum, the latter reps relied more and more on kicking, kipping and throwing their neck (barely) over the bar. At that point I can hardly see how it's the same exercise. Now, I'm not saying that form breakdown during training is the worst thing in the world. Being too strict can sometimes be detrimental. But when super sloppy reps are recorded as personal bests it muddies the waters. The same thing goes with squats, for example. Are people reporting their ass-to-grass squats? Parallell? Quarter-reps? Same with front lever. Someone might report a 15 second front lever to the database, but it may look like absolute crap. Basically, it's difficult to compare yourself to the general lifting public by using large databases like these, because the lifting form is all over the place. I've abandoned the idea of chasing general strength levels, and try to look at videos of people performing strict reps instead. That way I can get a feeling for what can reasonably be achieved with strict form all the way from the first to the last repetition. The sample size is much, much smaller, but at least I know that their reps look like.

@kira991 3 жыл бұрын

This is first time i saw those leg workouts

@IbrahimAhmed-ju8ou 4 жыл бұрын

very nice content

@FrinksmovementTV 4 жыл бұрын

Glad you think so! I will continue this video style 🙏🏻

@cheelive9548 3 жыл бұрын

5:47 yea that's because of the high lat activation while swimming

@cheelive9548 3 жыл бұрын

Especially when you straighten your arm while it's parallel to the body and your hand is really near to the hip, which of course has a tremendous transfer into calisthenics straight arm strength

@GrimmerPl 4 жыл бұрын

Looks like survey results are not available for public :

@FrinksmovementTV 4 жыл бұрын

Yes the survey results are still not available - HOWEVER Tom is soon gonna release the video. I know he got a bit late cause unexpectedly lots of people decided to complete it ;) Thank YOU for this comment I really, really appreciate it and Im already working on a new vid. Stay tuned ;)

@GrimmerPl 4 жыл бұрын

@@FrinksmovementTV Thanks for info. You know, it is just a little bit of positive feedback from one Pole to another ;). I know how much positive feedback is worth, especially if you are not pulling some heavy numbers. Take care mate :).

@wojtekimbier 4 жыл бұрын

I can do multiple FL pulls but no longer can do OAC that I stopped training a while ago. Another example of pulling specificity

@FrinksmovementTV 4 жыл бұрын

Yup! Just proving the point! Thank you for sharing - similar example to Davide's one

@user-nf4qd8wr1u 3 жыл бұрын

Yea im horrible in pull ups my max was 12 when i learned victorian on pbars (5 sec good form) after some trainings i learned front lever (17 sec good form) and victorian on pbars with 20 sec and after that i decided to test my pull ups (after the front and victorian i stop doing pull ups) and it was 20 the strenght is so weird

@tusharmahespalsingh791 3 жыл бұрын

Can you make a video about how strong you need to be at HSPU in order to military press your BW😅.It would be very informative.Nice vids btw✌.

@FrinksmovementTV 3 жыл бұрын

Hey! Sure thats very interesting topic! For the refference - I could do full rom 5x5 freestanding - still not being able to pull off 100% bw

@tusharmahespalsingh791 3 жыл бұрын

Hey!thanks for giving me some data.i can do 15 reps CTW hspu (nose to ground) in one set and i really was wondering if i could pull it off😅.Anyways i am looking forward to watch your future videos especially the HSPU vs OHP one😅.thanks✌.

@FrinksmovementTV 3 жыл бұрын

@@tusharmahespalsingh791 Awesome! Stay tuned then! :D

@ForrestHurrelbrink 3 жыл бұрын

Can you do a video on handstand pushups carry over to the military press?

@FrinksmovementTV 3 жыл бұрын

Very good idea!

@stephanrossler4597 3 жыл бұрын

Hey cool video

@mobzant 4 жыл бұрын

Muy bueno

@FrinksmovementTV 4 жыл бұрын

Gracias 👍

@jeffrey-iu2vj 3 жыл бұрын

damm bro u got a new sub

@FrinksmovementTV 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks bro!

@rnonthenicschannel4820 4 жыл бұрын

Hello

@talkingbirb2808 3 жыл бұрын

-> dunno how much push-ups I can do -> of course I will not go and test my max pushups, I'll just write what was a year ago :D I would be too lazy to attempt all max repetitions because there too many exercises though) The range of motion in the military press is much bigger than in handstand push-up

@FrinksmovementTV 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah that was that indication of my lazyness 😂

@FrinksmovementTV 3 жыл бұрын

Yes but regarding military press, i was talking full ROM HSPUs on parallettes

@talkingbirb2808 3 жыл бұрын

@@FrinksmovementTV oh, got it

@anthonywilson1754 2 жыл бұрын

Tom Merrick has been a hero for a while. He is TALL and trains like a shorter gymnast.

@FrinksmovementTV 2 жыл бұрын

Yes! He was one of my inspirations before I had a channel. Was following Tom since he had 200 subs

@anthonywilson1754 2 жыл бұрын

@@FrinksmovementTV I appreciated how big he is and doing what he does. I grew to 178 cm and now 82 kg. I started life in Ukraine and feel I had lack of nutrition as young boy. Then in gymnastics I didn't eat much. After started lifting heavy weights to add muscle at age 17 I ate all the time. And then I started to grow taller. So seeing Tom do what he does is fun. My waist is 72 cm and wonder how big Tom's is. There are so many people I admire.

@thomashuffcutt9414 4 жыл бұрын

Personally, I think strength based calisthenics on the floor the best. Guys like Matteo Spinazolla.

@FrinksmovementTV 4 жыл бұрын

Matteo is def a beast, totally agree

@deanshafi3697 4 жыл бұрын

Do a video on the Victorian

@FrinksmovementTV 4 жыл бұрын

The Art of Victorian cross - sounds awesome 👍

@deanshafi3697 4 жыл бұрын

@@FrinksmovementTV now thats a title also theres only a few vids on YT of it you could also talk about the reverse planche would be a interesting video as most people still think the Maltese is the hardest skill