FROM MICHAEL TO MISERY! The Final Years of the Benetton Formula One Team (1996-2001)

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Ай бұрын

Benetton was a colourful team. Literally and metaphorically. The team that made Michael Schumacher and Ross Brawn, to the Renault outfit that gave us Fernando Alonso to now floating around at the back not doing much. Via Lotus, that is...
A lot of people will point to their downfall as being 'Michael left' but there's a bit more to it than that. After all, one man can't change a whole team's destiny. Sure, there were others that also went to Ferrari, but getting things back on track seemed near impossible despite having, in theory, everything needed.
Over engineered cars, drivers that can't develop... It adds up.
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@CrunchyMotorsport Ай бұрын

Fun fact: Roberto Moreno drove for Benneton, there are signs in the sky Aidan

@polycube868 Ай бұрын

He'll get there, but he wants to put effort into it.

@zinddy Ай бұрын

what is this joke about moreno, idk a saw it many times in aidens comments but i dont get it, is it something to do with the copyright

@polycube868 Ай бұрын

@zinddy in Aiden's older videos about backmarker teams of the 80's and 90's, Roberto Moreno always ends up showing up, driving for any team that would take him, and often as a replacement when the original driver got injured, giving him the name of Super Sub, eventually he appeared in so many of Aiden's F1 story times people started asking for a video specifically about him and his career, eventually leading to Aiden promising it if he could get 100k subscribers, that he would eventually make a video about him.

@F-Man Ай бұрын

They seem like they’re right here on my screen, actually.

@pierrekaffer765 Ай бұрын

Moreno had real talent though, its why he kept getting drives. In a straight up exhibition race. he beat the Great one himself. Senna

@fmragusa Ай бұрын

Italian here. Benetton is a Venetian surname with the main stress on the last syllable. BUT the Italian racing press did sometimes use the English pronunciation, probably because they had heard it so much from English speakers. OK, an Italianised version of the English pronunciation, if it makes sense

@damarfadlan9251 Ай бұрын

I miss the iconic 1995 and 1996 Benetton cars....😢

@AntoniusTyas Ай бұрын

Little known fact, back in 2000 Flav really, _REALLY_ want to get rid of Alex Wurz. He disliked Alex so much, that when Alex begged for a new racing shoes to fit the car Flav scorned him instead. So when he was dropped and got replaced by Jenson, once Alex was hired as McLaren test driver it was basically a liberation for him.

@AidanMillward Ай бұрын

Flav didn’t like Jenson either.

@AC_702 Ай бұрын

@@AidanMillwardtruth. I think he said Jenson was "as fast as a milepost" or something like that

@David-mr3gw Ай бұрын

couldn’t he just have bought his own boots? 🤷🏼‍♂️

@F-Man Ай бұрын

Alex Wurz - F1’s greatest test driver 😎

@palm92 Ай бұрын

Didn't Flav hate Berger too and Wurz was heavily linked to him?

@camillaquelladegliaggettiv4303 Ай бұрын

Btw, most Italians pronounce Benetton roughly the way you do. The correct pronunciation would probably be BenetTON with the stress on the last syllable but literally no one outside of Veneto says it like that

@grahamr56 Ай бұрын

Flav was vile. Period. Maliciously screwed Johnny Herbert over - one of the best drivers of the era. Edit: Appropriate topic choice Aidan, considering the passing of Ted Toleman this past week - RIP

@palm92 Ай бұрын

He screwed over Brundle Twice as well. Aguri Suzuki spoke in recent years of his 1995 - he apparently told Mugen Suzuki would have the Ligier seat for the full season (Lie) and also neglected to tell Brundle he would be sharing the car with Suzuki. This after buying Ligier to get the Renault contract for Benetton, and then swiping the Mugen Engines from Minardi at the last minute too (the aforementioned Suzuki deal.)

@ibex485 Ай бұрын

When assessing Benetton's performance in 1996, remember Schumacher wasn't the only person who had left for Ferrari. A number of key people from Benetton were poached by Ferrari also. Not only would this have affected the design & development of the car, but also at races with setting up & operating the car. Benetton are also a team which historically usually went well at low downforce tracks (even when they didn't have particularly powerful engines) as their design philosophy gave a higher priority to mechanical grip, as this was relatively cheap compared to maximising downforce. (Jordan did the same. It's also one reason why both teams tended to do well in the rain.) Berger was also somewhat of a specialist at Hockenheim, Monza & other low downforce tracks.

@simonkevnorris Ай бұрын

Ross Brawn and Rory Byrne were part of the group that joined Ferrari along with Michael.

@demdjen77 Ай бұрын

Ross Brawn and Rory Byrne joined Ferrari in late 1996 when the '96 Benetton was almost finished.

@ibex485 Ай бұрын

@@demdjen77 The relevant date is when they stopped working for Benetton. When staff are due to leave for another team it is routine for them to be put on 'gardening leave' or at the very least restricted duties. My point was also that not having them available during the season was a significant hinderance. F1 cars (especially in that era) are pure prototypes which are continuously developed through the season. Also designing the car is only half the challenge, you also need to be able to set it up for changing tracks & conditions to be able to utilise the performance potential of its design & construction. Things were very different then to how it is now. Practice sessions mattered far more as the teams had to do their setup work at the track (not in advance on simulators as they do now).

@demdjen77 Ай бұрын

@@ibex485 Ok, understood. The 1997 Ferrari definitely wasn't a winning car as we say at the beginning of the season. Ross and Rory did some updates during the year. I remember Schumacher was very dissapointed when he found out during the 1st test that the car still had massive understeer like F310. About the simulators.... please tell this to TeamLH... they believe Schumacher was in major advantage because of the Fiorano track :)

@ibex485 Ай бұрын

@@demdjen77 That's no surprise, for 1997 they used the F310B - an evolution of John Barnard's F310. It wasn't until 1998 that they had a car fully designed by the new dream team. The F310's understeer might not have been bad. Schumacher liked/needed a car with a lot of rear instability for his driving style. (Which made cars almost undrivable for his team mates.) He was one of the first to use what's now the default style of going into corners deep, having the car rotate sharply and taking a straight exit - which maximises traction/acceleration & braking performance by keeping the car straight during those phases (but at the expense of lower miminum corner speed). (As opposed to the classic style of taking the corner in a smooth arc following a path of least resistance and carrying as much speed through the corner.) Having Fiorano was certainly an advantage for Ferrari in the days before testing was restricted, but not a huge one (otherwise the other big teams would have followed suit, or at least built permenant test facilities at existing tracks). By the time the simulation tools became advanced enough, testing was heavily restricted/banned anyway. So Fiorano can only be used for 'filming days' and running old cars. (Although a private test track could be more of an advantage, if trying to sneak in some testing using loopholes - everyone uses filming days for shakedowns & aero testing, there are some suspicions about what Ferrari may have been doing.)

@polycube868 Ай бұрын

Scott Mansell (Driver 61) has actually driven the B-197 in historic races.

@danielpooley7148 Ай бұрын

Doesn’t he have the brands hatch Indy record

@davidporeilly1 Ай бұрын

Other trivia, Scott mansell raced in Mazda MX5 Cup last summer and didnt make the top 10.

@danielhenderson8316 Ай бұрын

Congrats, and I'd love to see a video about the 93 McLaren along with Michael Andretti showing how not to run an F1 career by staying in the US and arriving jet lagged to every location instead of being near the team with one of the greatest drivers of all time and get use to a computer controlled car he had no experience with.

@ExodiaNecross2 Ай бұрын

I always love the F1 1996 Benetton B196 just perfect to me

@mjk06 Ай бұрын

Always loved the 94 onwards Benetton liveries........especially the white wheel rims.

@kevinprior3549 Ай бұрын

Been a long journey for the team that are now Alpine... Toleman, Benetton, Renault, Lotus-Renault, Renault (again), now Alpine.

@ibex485 Ай бұрын

The irony of Stewart's win in 1999 (at that memorably wet and eventful Nurburgring European GP) was that the race was Benetton's to win... until Fisichella span off into the gravel from the lead late in the race.

@caphowdy666 Ай бұрын

Seeing the Benetton reminds me how much I miss the days of teams using different colour rims. The white on the Benetton, the gold on the Ferraris and Jaguars and the orange on the Arrows. Those wheels looked so much better than plain old black or silver that most were using.

@palm92 Ай бұрын

Green Forti Wheels were neat. Red Eurobrun and Red/Yellow Alfa Wheels.

@karytyrrell1540 Ай бұрын

Those mid 90s cars always look so beautyful

@Slider5320 Ай бұрын

Part of the entourage that went from Benetton to Ferrari was Willem Toet, one of the few aerodynamasists who could rival Adrian Newey. Phenomenal guy. His insights to Flavio Briatore’s leadership is very interesting.

@shuble1 Ай бұрын

Many congratulations Aidan, can't wait to see you display the plaque.

@therrydicule Ай бұрын

The 1995 team was gone in 1996. And Briatore had the wrong approach: this was time to rebuild...

@InvadedOath Ай бұрын

Benetton always sticks in my mind because of the Suzuka 1990 race because my grandad taped the highlights for me and I watched it over and over again while pushing models around on his living room floor

@nolancain8792 Ай бұрын

Always good to sit down with an iced coffee and an AM notification.

@hecksters423 Ай бұрын

AM in the AM

@AC_702 Ай бұрын

The Benetton B189-B201 are some of my favorite designs, especially the B191-B193b

@ianyoung1106 Ай бұрын

It’s almost not a story time video without a “Crikey, it’s the Rozzers!”, but here we are. Congratulations Aiden, it’s been a journey! 🎉

@legoferrari14 Ай бұрын

Happy 100k! Roberto Moreno awaits!

@captainsmartass3368 Ай бұрын

Benetton F1 cars are some of the best looking F1 cars ever

@captainmagenta899 Ай бұрын

Another thumbs up for the McLaren '93 story with added squashed hedgehog decal. Also, Benetton's leap from the no frills B192 to the B193 with all the toys - even faffing around with four-wheel steering at the end of the season. Must have been like going from Apollo to the Enterprise D.

@Redlineshadow29 Ай бұрын

Congratulations for 100k subscribers. Keep doing what you're doing

@davidporeilly1 Ай бұрын

Congratulations Aidan, well deserved. You did it your way. Also I thought the "Mass damper" innovation was worth a mention.

@danechristison1896 Ай бұрын

The more I look at that reply the more I see micheal looking in his mirrors

@laurenmp7486 Ай бұрын

Imagine a team today saying "Yeah we're going color our tires". Also congrats on the 100k!!!

@the80hdgaming Ай бұрын

Great work man.... Congrats on 100k... It's well deserved...

@ElectoneGuy Ай бұрын

I wonder how much success awaited Alessandro Nannini if not for the helicopter crash. Schumacher probably would not have been given the Benetton ride as they would have had Piquet and Nannini instead of that other Brazilian guy whose name escapes me now...

@MrSniperfox29 Ай бұрын

Honestly The Michael was causing such a buzz I think they would have dumped Piquet as he was well past his sell by date

@palm92 Ай бұрын

Nannini was champion material. He and Alboreto were brilliant but never had the breaks.

@h3llr4iser1 6 күн бұрын

@@MrSniperfox29 Dumping Piquet...it would've been a tall order even for Briatore, if there ever was a character in F1 that could keep Flavio (and Bernie) in check, that was Nelson. He'd never have been dumped without taking with him a massive, and I mean absolutely massive slice of the Benetton's corporate bank account.

@MrSniperfox29 5 күн бұрын

@@h3llr4iser1 Doubtful since Piquet was actually on a small contract topped up with bonuses on performance They could have easily dumped him, especially as by his own admittance, he wasn't that good anymore

@y_fam_goeglyd Ай бұрын

For someone who has been watching the whole life of the Enstone team (and longer!), this was really interesting. It took me back to the time of small children wondering what the hell I saw in motorbikes and cars going around tracks (until number 1 son decided bikes were cool and would come and watch them with me. I regretted it when he got his first bike 🥴). The older they got, the more weekend time I had to expand the types of racing I could watch, but F1 had always been "my time" when it was on. Nowhere near as often as now! Now there are grandkids of that age, but they don't live close enough to stay on the weekends 😢. Congratulations on reaching the 100k! You bloody deserve it. I hope you're having some sort of celebration at home 😊

@Somedudethatlikeswrestling Ай бұрын

As someone who stumbled across that Andrea Moda video and has enjoyed Story time since, congratulations to you sir

@bjarulez Ай бұрын

Cant wait for the full roberto moreno story

@davidporeilly1 Ай бұрын

It needs to include his (non championship) Australian GP win.

@aoife1122 Ай бұрын

While it ended in "misery" from a sporting point of view, Benetton have done exceedingly well for themselves. What they did surely inspired Red Bull... it was the first major F1 exercise in "brand awareness". P.S. Big congratulations to your 100k subscribers, well done and indeed well deserved, Aidan.

@timothysperisen2088 Ай бұрын

Berger had a Renault engine failure in Hungary as well, some laps from the end too and the team did the famous Handbrake experiment at the Nurburgring

@EffequalsMA Ай бұрын

I've always loved this format, Aidan. I consider myself a casual F1 fan. I do watch all the races but I don't intensely study it apart from that. I don't play sims. I just enjoy the stories you tell and how you tell them.

@ibex485 Ай бұрын

Benetton's front torque transfer system connected the front wheels together via unpowered 'driveshafts' and a differential. Its purpose was to aid braking performance. When braking one tyre will generally lock up before the other, if the car is steering while braking with the weight shift to the outer side of the car the inner unloaded tyre will tend to lock up more easily. The aim of the torque transfer system was to spread the forces of braking between both front tyres - transferring some from the unloaded tyre to the one which had more grip and allowing the driver to brake deeper into the corner. Fisichella used the system, but the added weight of the system (I remember a number of 5-7Kg, which may or may not be accurate) and where it was on the car was an issue with Wurz and he couldn't use it. Wurz was much taller (6ft iirc) and thus heavier than Fisichella. And although his car would still be on the weight limit with it, it left him with less ballast to position for adjusting the car's balance. (An significant issue for all tall drivers, such as Berger, Coulthard & Hill.) BAR tried a copycat system a few years later.

@RockTheChef Ай бұрын

Can anyone reach out to Roberto Moreno and get him in Aidan's room? :) Congrats man, so glad you got there! Onto the future :)

@robertgodsell Ай бұрын

Happy 100k, well deserved. Now where’s my Moreno?

@camtheman4703 Ай бұрын

Congrats on the 100k

@demander11 Ай бұрын

Congrats on the success, you're actually enjoyable to listen to so you shouldn't be surprised

@andrewjoeljackson4653 Ай бұрын

congrats on the 100k, keep on keepin on. also i agree re Hill vs Schuey, the gap was never there and michael was driving the normal line (or close to it, either way he was ahead)

@rars0n Ай бұрын

Congrats, Aidan! You're really good at telling a great story, so it's no surprise that you've hit 100k. I'm sure the channel will keep growing!

@dpause10 Ай бұрын

@5:55 Refreshing take! Still waiting to for the Adelaide 1994 video. Coming soon I hope!

@Juozapas001 Ай бұрын

Congratulations on 100k aidan. Its been a fun & educational ride so far. Keep it up 👍

@IrishPartizan Ай бұрын

Congrats Aidan. Looking forward to seeing the big silver button in the background. And yes, it was better in the good old days (1980s).

@palm92 Ай бұрын

Having watched 1980-1989 retroactively (wasn't alive) - I agree. Every season is excellent.

@tamezzodiac2862 Ай бұрын

Thanks for your videos. As a newish F1 fan, (who isn't really a fan of modern F1, just watch old races and learn stories) you have really upgraded my knowledge and made it a ton of fun to learn about F1. I started out as a nascar fan only, but I just genuinely love motorsports, so this helps me a ton in the last 4 or 5 years. Keep up the good work, and congratulations on 100k!

@deanpierce9048 Ай бұрын

Just before I start watching, I’m glad you made this video because I have always wondered about why they fell off the way they did, especially as the only sudden decline like it was actually from the same team in 2007 onwards

@Pablo668 Ай бұрын

Congrats on the 100k subs! Well deserved.

@seanpie5481 Ай бұрын

Congratulations on the 100k. Well deserved. Cheers from Oz.

@simontravers2715 Ай бұрын

Congratulations on 100K Aidan!!! 🥳 I loved the late 90s Benetton liveries (even looked good on N64 game F1 World Grand Prix) reminds me of the Nissan R390 GT1’s livery at Le Mans (not driven by Moreno)

@F1-Passion Ай бұрын

Well done on you massively successful channel I personally love your channel

@francoisdvanderwesthuizen6772 Ай бұрын

Congrats on the 100k subs, for a F1/ racing channel to get that far is a huge milestone, thanks a lot and your content is of great quality and entertaining.

@mukulnag1578 Ай бұрын

Love how your answer to one of my comments made it into a video ... Regarding the "ll" pronunciation

@mica7191 Ай бұрын

Congrats on 100K... wishing you reach 1M in future...

@Watchmedome3017 Ай бұрын

100k FUCK YEAH!!! been a member for years now love to see this.

@WRC-FAN Ай бұрын

Congratulations, absolutely love the content you produce - 100K well deserved!!👍

@harrypreece6680 Ай бұрын

Always fun to go down the “what would Schumacher do with the 1996 Benetton” rabbit hole For my money, we get a proper 3 way dogfight for the title, I don’t think the B196 was anywhere near as bad as Alesi and Berger would have people believe 😏

@lewis9388 Ай бұрын

Great vid as usual. Well deserved 100k 👏🏻

@jacekatalakis8316 Ай бұрын

Flav owned Ligier in 96 as well, there's stories floating around about how Ligier folks in full Ligier gear would show up at Enstone and use the Benetton facilities. Makes me wonder how that impacted both teams if true realy.

@marcchan711 29 күн бұрын

I read that it affected Benetton's staff morale. Even worse was when apparently the Ligier staff were issued Benetton team gear to wear whenever they were in Benetton facilities; it irked and undermined the Enstone team's staff morale and hard work

@jacekatalakis8316 29 күн бұрын

@@marcchan711 Whre'd you read that, I'd be curious to know more since the way I heard it was Ligier folks would show up and use Benetton's facilities and nothing was done about it because Flavd

@myk6694 Ай бұрын

Well done & congratulations on 100k🏁

@EvilStitch Ай бұрын

Congrats on 100K! I always enjoy every video you put out! Keep it up 👍

@Kam1Kaz3NL77 Ай бұрын

Congrats on the 100K m8

@pursang6792 Ай бұрын

Congrats on hitting 100K subscribers!!

@The_BenboBaggins Ай бұрын

Congratulations on the 100k subs - well deserved!

@BIILLETT Ай бұрын

Been you with a long time man! Loving every minute of it. Thank YOU

@hippyjason Ай бұрын

100k. Congrats. Well earned.

@vincentras1991 Ай бұрын

Congratulations

@steviemac8075 Ай бұрын

You have an excellent channel with great content well delivered as well as a bone dry hint of sarcasm. Congrats and well done 👏

@redchris97 Ай бұрын

Congrats on 100k!

@martincraig5552 26 күн бұрын

Well done Aidan fantastic videos as always

@chrisstephens6194 Ай бұрын

Easily my favourite you tube channel

@bigfootproductions749 Ай бұрын

congrats on 100K!!!!

@harmkuijpers6642 Ай бұрын

Congrats on the 100k! I always find your videos informative and original! Keep up the good work.

@bhumiriady Ай бұрын

Congrats on reaching the 100K subscribers milestone, mate!

@cyberfutur5000 Ай бұрын

I indeed learned a lot about some things in this thing, thanks mate! And congrats on 100k!

@stewartbailey1653 Ай бұрын

You forgot to mention about the Schumacher and Berger/Alasi driver swap, for 96. At the end of 95 Schumacher tested the Ferrari, and Berger and Alasi tested the Benetton, Schumacher went faster than either of those two the first time he drove the car, whilst Berger and Alasi said that the car was undrivable. The Benetton team could never adapt their car to suit Berger and Alasi's driving style

@polycube868 Ай бұрын

Michael Schumacher also was baffled as to how the 1995 Ferrari wasn't a championship contender, then instead of just an improved 1995 car they changed the design entirely, but The Michael still found speed in the car that was said to be as aerodynamic as the Forti.

@palm92 Ай бұрын

@@polycube868 The 412T2 was an excellent design - Schumacher loved the handling.

@polycube868 Ай бұрын

@palm92 the fact Adrian Newey designed cars dominated the 90's and Michael Schumacher never sat in one of them impresses me, he was so good he didn't need the best car, but once Ferrari had the best car he was unstoppable.

@palm92 Ай бұрын

@@polycube868 He very nearly won an championship in the 3rd-4th best car in 1997.

@palm92 Ай бұрын

@@polycube868 One wonders why, to quote F1 rejects, they didn't just give Schumacher a worked over 412T2 for 1996. The F310 was atrocious, the 4th best car solidly that season.

@rpmV8 Ай бұрын

Always liked them, even though I'm a Damon fan. Cars always looked great. The Benetton sponsorship of Tyrrell is almost a story in itself. I read (I think it may have been Ken Tyrrells biography) about how they had signed Benetton and Denim, but Benetton wouldn't share the car space so Tyrrell had to tell Denim no.

@simonwilliams4514 Ай бұрын

"Driver aids were banned for 1994"... didn't stop Benneton from continuing to use them though Congrats on the 100k, well deserved

@millzyboy500 Ай бұрын

Congratulation on 100k

@eamonahern7495 Ай бұрын

Hits the like button during the intro music so I don't forget afterwards. Congrats on the 100k

@russellschwebke2652 Ай бұрын

100K, Nice! Waiting to see that YT 110K plaque in the background soon.

@UncleJoeLITE Ай бұрын

Congrats from Australia! Getting your first plaque. 👍

@LiamNI Ай бұрын

Congrats on the 100k bud.

@Exponaut_R-01 Ай бұрын

Congrats on that sixth digit! Long deserved. I would wonder what happened to Renault but I saw what happened. Not much room at the top when Ferrari, McLaren and BMW were the collective good teams. Even when you factor in BMW’s weirdly fast drop from relevance there was always the wildcard team or two that’d show up, until it just became Red Bull as that third team.

@minibus9 Ай бұрын

awesome video, really loving this minisereis

@Joe2328 Ай бұрын

Congrats on 100k

@palm92 Ай бұрын

My controversial opinion was that if Berger was on his late-80s/Early 90s form in 1997 he could have had a shot at the championship. He had some brilliant drives that season and he was like 500 years old too and had an infection. I still feel he's one of the best to never be a WDC, and I rate him above single champions like Scheckter, Jones, and Keke (with all do respect to them, especially Keke.)

@kevinthomson557 Ай бұрын

keep up the good work, I really do enjoy watching Ur content especially regarding F1

@bobclarke5913 Ай бұрын

Congrats on the first 100k. And now to settle in for a story.

@GeneralKenobiSIYE Ай бұрын

Congrats on the 100k. I remember when you had less than 10k

@kennvillegas2014 Ай бұрын

IDK Why I came and stayed BUT at least a chunk of it is the music CONGRATS on 100K

@nigelmurphy6761 Ай бұрын

Well done on 100k Aidan ! 👍

@antonymcmanus8182 Ай бұрын

Well done on the 100K

@noahdommaschk Ай бұрын

Well done on 6 figures! Been watching ur stuff since 2019 and it's nice to see how far you've come with all this hard work

@weallfollowmanutd Ай бұрын

The 1996 car was pretty much as good as the 1995 one. To prove the point, Schumacher got in the 1995 Ferrari and said it was better than his Title winning Benetton. Aaaagh, the good old days when drivers made a huge difference.

@markusjuenemann Ай бұрын

I´ve been a subscriber since that mentioned first Andrea Mona video. This one got me hooked.

@mitchdaytonam3 22 күн бұрын

15:00 - the 110 degrees is the angle between the two banks of cylinders in the V10. Most V engines are 90’, the current V6’s for example all are, mandated so by the regs. Back in the early 2000’s the V10s could be any angle; Renault experimented with the wide 110’ and narrow 72’.

@justinsetchell6935 Ай бұрын

Congrats on the 100k! You talked a little about the evolution of your channel at the start of this video. One series I enjoyed that you did in the past was your motorsports alternative history 'what if' videos. I don't remember many of them but I did really enjoy them. What happened with that idea, and do you have any plans to revisit it? I'd love to see a new video on that series. Keep up the great content, and congrats again!

@AidanMillward Ай бұрын

Don’t think I will. Not much else I can do with it.