I was triggered when I saw the tube amp right next to it 😂

Earbuds for Kef M400 250 euros for a pair of earbuds in replacement, for headphone bought new 50 euros (original price of the headphone 250 euros, or the price of this spare part), while the leatherette is very thin and quickly detaches itself? I expected about ten euros, which I usually put in the competing models. 25 euros would have seemed very expensive, too expensive considering the poor quality, but 250 euros (240 Pounds) is unfortunately not a joke, but an incredible bullshit and a deliberate merchant choice that corresponds to wear and tear. I have always been faithful to the Kef brand for 40 years, but I understand that we are actually taken for pigeons, frankly it is like urinating on us. Fortunately Kef is not a car manufacturer, he would sell the 4 tires at the same price as the new car! Also, we notice that the construction of these earpieces does not correspond to what they seem to be, that is to say a natural rubber of good thickness to withstand time. In short, a good sound quality, but of the whole issue manufacturing, and a sales policy that is obvious robbery.

@@dugenounonplie8162 And your point is ? I thought we were talking subs here 😉

@@jimfarrell4635 My point is that KEF was a fantastic compagny, but is not still today ! A big shame !

@@dugenounonplie8162 Fair enough, Dugenou. It just seemed a bit of an abrupt shift in topic. I do feel Kef remain highly innovative but some of their pricing can indeed be off-putting.

His listening room looks heavenly!

Nicely planned out isn’t it - inspired me to redo mine!

Exactly as mine fed with marantz integrated amp & CD a very well match set up

I bet.

one or stereo subs?

@@ISETbioDev.Cottaris one. I have the LPF set to 45 Hz on the KEF app which is about the -3 db point for the speakers. Integration was super easy. As Jay mentioned the bass is very fast and accurate and incredibly deep.

Yeah, I have the LS 50 Wireless ii as well with two REL T5I's, and the KEF app definitely makes integration a breeze and there are more features coming. The EQ settings make this a very tunable system. The other parts of the app in regards to the streaming services needs more work.

@@LuxAudio389 agree. The phase correction is also pretty cool.

What's the best crossover + volume setting when paired with Metas? I'm driving them with a Hegel H190

Curious are you high passing the Meta with KC62 as well ? The Kc62 are one of few subwoofers that gives you RCA high pass.

REL also blends great with most speakers

Totally agree with you. I am sure you'll get more benefit adding the KC62 than changing to the Meta.

I think any well integrated subwoofer is an upgrade to the LS50's. However this new line of kef subs seems to expand on the previous generation products. Pretty cool!

Seems like a smart move to me. Give the meta some time to work out it's bugs.

Hi Cory, I was wondering what your opinion is on the LS50s? I have had quite a few speakers to date and find it hard to believe that a speaker this small can reproduce a full range quality sound. Would love to hear your opinion.

@@grahmpike9032 They don't have much bass. They spec at 79Hz-28kHz, +/-3dB, with a -6dB point of 49Hz. They will measure in the mid 40Hz range in some rooms. IMO, a well integrated sub is a must for some if lower bass and impact is desired.

It does!!

@@mikhailyadav Do you have the LS50 Meta with a subwoofer ? If so how are you integrating the sub ? Thanks

@@kevtn8 I have the same question, did you receive a response? I like the idea of speaker inout but without speaker output to the mains I guess we’d need to run another 2-ch amp , or use the rca in and outs ??

Ding ding. My Sunfire True Sub is still chugging along (after a plate amp replacement) with my Mirage HDT's, but the KC62 will definitely be on my short list when it's time for a replacement.

You can get that sub for $99 now! Times have changed.

I was prepared to ask the same question. The sub has speaker level IN but no speaker level OUT that I could see. So, bass management somewhere in the mix? His praise for the sound of the bookshelves suggests, "Yes".

I guess it’s like with Rel - speakers go full range, sub’s added from below. Works fine for me btw.

@@oleksiifilippov68 if the ls50 mid-range driver goes full range, them there is no benefit (to the ls50) from the sub . it would be better if there was offloading of low frequency stuff to the sub, so that the midrange driver can do a better job of transducing the mid frequency signal.

@@ISETbioDev.Cottaris oh, there’s a benefit. I run a sub just like that. More depth to the sound, fuller warmer midrange...

@@ISETbioDev.Cottaris You can do this if using LS50WII (through the app) or if using separate pre/power - wire up pre->KC62->power - the line output maintains stereo, and has a high pass filter that can be applied (the DIP switches on the rear)

In that case stay away from the Active version and stick to the passive Meta.

I certainly did. I bought passive.

This is my EXACT dilemma right now. Just got the wireless 2s and and very torn between these 3 options to pair them with.

Got the ls50 with rel t7 is sound very good

I love my REL T5i but this looks like it takes things to the next level, and looks so cool at the same time. Think it might be upgrade time!

I briefly mention in the review that I preferred the kef kc62 than 2 rel t5i.

It’s to bad that the two woofers cans be configured independently to be out in dipole mode (synced) to better integrate with the Magnepans. Face one forward and the other back, yes? Also, If it wasn’t for the sealed nature and shared cabinet, one could place the woofer between a pair of speakers and get a stereo effect from one unit. That would be interesting

@@Jayiyagi, thanks a lot Jay. Take care!

What about KC62 vs REL s/510? For music? For movies? Im using medium sized floor standing speakers

Yes you need Hz spectral analysis , balance of it , obviously this may be tweakable away from the default or stock

If I may and if you haven't already purchased, I'm playing Tannoy Cheviots in a medium room with lots of good quality A/B watts. You simply cannot beat REL T/7i hooked via the HL Speakon connection. I have one and it exploded my soundstage and dynamics, which was already really good. Just astonishing. I want to improve my 2-ch music, I don't want to feel that chest-thumping electronica bass the kids like. The RELs do this the best. The KC62 is smaller, easier to position and also should be hooked using speaker-level connection (with 16-gauge wire). Properly tuned and placed, the KC62s are 80% of the sound quality of the RELs. The KC62 cost quite a bit more expensive than the RELs. With the KC62, you are paying for the "cool" factor, smaller size, and maybe a little more placement flexibility. Both are really good.

I'm pretty new to this too congrats on getting into it. I think what he was trying to say is that the ls50s may go down to a certain frequency but they may not play those notes well. The bass may be muddy or just not as good as floorstanding speaker. A more than capable subwoofer would help fill in those gaps where a bookshelf speaker may not excel. Hope this helps.

There is a saying: "You don't know what you're missing until you've heard what you're missing." In this case, adding the lower frequencies with a quality sub to a pair of quality speakers has a knock-on effect that reinforces and improves the frequency response throughout the entire frequency range. If you have not heard this phenomenon in person, it's difficult to imagine. Thus, the quote above. As soon as you hear it, you understand instantly. Well, perhaps not technically, but you know what you're hearing. : )

What he was referring to was passing the speaker signal through the sub where a high pass version of the signal is then available on another pair of the sub terminals, which is less demanding (due to the lack of bass signal), for what ever speakers are then connected. In other words the sub splits the mid/high and low signals, and you connect your main speakers to the mid/high output (via a power amp). Hope that helps!

Small in size, ability to play deep, ability to play loud. One only gets to pick two of these. Cannot have all three.

I am asking myself the same question. Problem is the a500 is set to deliver only in August for new orders while the ls50w2 and kc62 are available now

@@eugeneong2241 I ended up getting the LS50wii with the kc62 combo and I'm super happy with the purchase. The app is a lotttttt better than the old one.

You can do that if you are using separates and place the KC62 in the signal path between them - KC62's line output has a selectable high pass filter

@Glenn Young what gear would i need to implement as you described? i have ls50 meta and want to get kc62 to offload lower frequencies and maximize ls50 meta performance. right now i have a dac and a pair of purifi amp monoblocks hooked up using XLR cables. i'm not set on this configuration, so just wondering what i'd need to get to implement as you mentioned. do i get a separate upstream electronic crossover device?

That would be pretty sick

@@Zoranurai13 I would think so!

Please check the video description for acoustic panel link.

I would imagine you could do better and cheaper than 4k plus HST.

Love the name! Greetings from eastern Canada.