Tried explaining this to my little brother. The current midsize are nearly the size of older full size, and can tow pretty much all the same stuff you'd tow with a full size. You don't get significant bullet proofing to transmission and suspension until HD lines.

Most people don’t want to get 10 mpg city and 14 to 15 highway mpg in a gas f250 if they are towing on a regular basis.

Now THIS is what KZfaq was made for! Great informative USEFUL content that people need and want to watch. Great video. Looking into a frontier or Titan and never considered the Titan XD til now. Now I got a decision to make lol

F250 Godzilla, no Start Stop, no Cylinder Deactivation.

You can get a brand-new Nissan Titan (which I'd argue is the most reliable full-sized truck on sale today) for anywhere from $12k to $16k off of MSRP depending on trim level... They're discontinuing it and dealers just want them off their lots. A wonderful deal if you ask me.

Thank you, helped a lot. I'm interested in buying my 1st travel trailer and going down the rabbit hole of truck towing.

I don’t own a trailer or haul shit but I drive a Silverado 2500HD 4x4. It cost me $20 more a week to drive than any of my previous 1/2 ton trucks. Way way more reliable and simple to get inspections.

@samkoworkshop Thank you soo much for this video!! This is exactly why I want a Chevy 2500 HD Custom Z71. I wish i could get the GMC AT4X HD but its out of my pricee range. The 2500's are just more reliable /more capable of work/pulling and now I know the resale value is better than the 2024 1500's. Man I'm excited to buy one. Been 20yrs since I've bought myself a new truck. Hope you have a great weekend! God bless to you & yours!!!

It's about supply and demand, and the HD trucks are just not moving. A three quarter ton truck can be a better buy if you plan on keeping it for a long time and equip it specifically for what you need. If you don't need a diesel, then don't spend the money, and if you don't need a 4x4, then don't spend the money. A 4 door short bed truck will do just about everything you need it to do as far as hauling the family around and going to the hardware store or moving. It's a practical work truck or commuter for the average person, and you can have basic or fully decked out depending on your needs. Again, don't spend the money on something you don't need, so if you're not going to pull a forty foot fifth wheel, then don't get the monster engine and keep it practical. A small block v8 will be plenty for what most people need and remember your not buying this for resale but for your usage so don't get a truck with leather and then climb in the cab with a screwdriver in your back pocket. This is transportation and a tool to get the job done, and if you need a load of firewood or gravel, then the newer 3/4 ton truck should handle it. The mistake guys make is they buy a half ton truck and then overload it, which beats the truck up, and then you had wished you had bought an HD in the first place.

Good video. I have no use for a full size truck. Today's mid-size are about same size as my old Ford F 150 was back in the day. Plus, I like to keep our vehicles in the garage.

I just went to the Ford website. Built a new F-250 Tremor for 62k. You were spot on. I never would have thought it. Great points made.

Thanks for this

I decided on midsize for many reasons. I had a 2019 Ram Powerwagon, but I couldn't go certain places my buddy could with his Nissan Frontier. We do a lot of hunting and off roading and some places I couldn't get my 2500 into because it was so big. Plus it's just me and my wife and 2 dogs so a midsize will be just fine.

Sold my two year old at the time 21 Gladiator to CARMAX for what I paid for it new. My 18 year old (low mileage) 2006 Frontier Crew 4x4 (6MT) is still worth 50% of what I paid for it new ($22K) if sold to private owner. Local Nissan dealership recently offered me ($10K) for it. Great argument presented for HD trucks though, for those who can use the size and capability...

You Sir are doing a great job! Saw this ages ago. the Tundras are over 50k for an ok model and it's the same for 2500s

Went with a new chevy 2500 diesel lastyear. Had a ram 1500 before. Couldn't tow as much as i needed and it seems they put alot more care into building the HD trucks. Fullsize seems like just a pretty grocery truck now

Great video we have an old saying out here if it don’t make dollars it’s gotta make sense and this makes dollars and cents F250 tremor for me if I was going that route

I have a 2010 Tacoma for my daily driver, and a 2009 Dodge Ram 2500 to haul the horses on the weekends.

2021 5.7 Tundra. Best 5/8 yes 5/8 p/u made in the last 25 years. Get a low mileage one while you can.

Just got into the GM apprenticeship and hope to get back into a truck soon. Definitely will go with a gas 2500 HD. Looking at a 2500 ltz and its costing just as much as a lower trim 1500. With the hds now having 10 speeds they are on par mpg with 1500s. Mid and full size trucks can only do so much while a hd truck is kind of the jack of all trades now. Especially for the price points on the vehicles i feel your dollar definitely goes farther in the HD trucks

You can get a descently equipped 3/4 ton with a gas engine for less money than a blinged-out 1/2 ton. Way more capable truck.

I see you at the Jimmy Britt lot. I rode thru the Dublin store last week eyeballing the Gladiators, they have up to nearly $10,000 of some of them. I have my 2014 f250 now relegated to towing only duty and 2020 wrangler as my daily. I do excavation dirt work and while an hd is a great work truck the ride is just awful. All day across an excavation job will beat you to death.

I would agree with that. An HD seems like the better buy than a fullsize if you are looking to do a lot of truck stuff. Midsize trucks though fit more residential truck things. They are more economical/practical than their fullsize counterparts.

High resale good for seller / bad for buyer. Just like owning a house: you want it assessed low value for taxes owed, but high when selling it.

I agree with going hd for the reasons you explained but then you select gasser. You definitely won’t get resale value with HD gasser. Most people don’t want gasser in HD

That said, what midsize would you buy today if you were keeping it for less than 3 years (and assume you can also get a Ranger with the 2.7)?

Awesome video! I feel like you’re spot one with this! Your opinion on the full size truck market, has me considering getting rid of mine! Do I need my full-size? Is a midsize more than enough for me and my daily needs! As you’re right, the full size segment is over saturated and over priced! They’re hardly anymore capable than a midsize. And a midsize seems plenty capable for a majority of people out there for their daily needs. However the price difference of $15k-$20k between a midsize and full-size is crazy!! Not worth it and not likely you’ll get your value out of that full-size! If you’re needs warrant over 10k pounds of towing capacity and a couple thousand pounds of payload, then opt into an HD! The cabs also massive and they come standard with at least a 6.5’ bed!… and the best part… they cost as much, if not less than that overpriced full-size! I was at a CDJR dealership this morning and saw a 2025 Ram 1500 Bighorn for just over $64k and a 2024 Ram 2500 Bighorn for just under $68k… which one is the bargain here!!?? Yup! And wow. That HD was huge! And beautiful!

I wonder if the resale value for HD trucks is based on diesel models. It’s 11k just to add diesel option to F-250.

Can You get a full-size pickup in a Single Cab still? Toyota stopped the Tacoma single cab in 2o15 with the Gen2... I Have noticed a Few single cab domestics roliing around that are full-sized (Ford and GM) but i do not know how old they are

I don't even see a reason for 3/4 ton. Just jump from midsize to 350 or 3500's. The cost difference is negligible.

Aren't F150 and F250 literally the same cab? How does the SD = "more room"?

I decided against an HD bc I'm probably rarely ever going to tow more than the 12,000 lbs my F-150 can and it still has better payload capacity

Recently purchased a Chevrolet 2500HD gasser for my pickup needs/wants and actually paid less than an exactly equipped 1500 would have cost me. No cylinder deactivation gimmickry, start-stop boloney, or other aggravating and ridiculous issues anymore. The HD's are better built and many times more robust than the 1/2 ton models including and especially the powertrain, front to back!. It's comfortable, ready, and able for any situation I ask of it making me ask myself why I haven't done this conversion sooner. I believe it's actually built to last rather than planned obsolescence the 1/2 ton models seem to be. If you want a durable, reliable, and better built pickup I heartily recommend the upgrade no matter what brand suits your fancy.

Because mid size are basically a full size truck from the past why we Americans have a big affinity for full size?

You can buy a Silverado ZR2 AND a Silverado High Country for the price of that 130k plus Ford super duty 🤦‍♂️

No way is mid size truck worth $40-$60,000 US Dollars whereas if you shop around for a full size F150 i think there are deals out there for that and going on some time now but yes i agree far more full size en route possibly far better for 2025 as well but also Tesla Cybertruck and Tesla everything continues to throw off the entire US automotive market to now include full size commercial trucks.

Great Video! You would be right if manufacturers started to sell real mid-size work truck pickups with 2 doors with 7ft or 8ft beds without any luxury. Most real pickup owners needs work trucks, not 4 doors limo with a man's purse in the back. In UK Ford is selling Rangers Work Truck Access Cab with 8ft beds without any luxury convenience. Why we don't have these here in North America? Ford still a US Company, am I right?

On RAM 1500 trucks, there's less 2024 because they have the 2025's out.

I thought Ford Raptor had good resale value?

There is only 13k rams because everyone trying to pick up the last of the v8s. No one wants the new motor.

I do think the f250 is a better buy. The f150 rides smoother and is easier to park. The gm 2500 rides better with the independent front suspension in my opinion than the f250. I'll take the 7.3 over the 6.6 gas though.

Yeah let me start by saying a super duty won’t fit on my garage. Bye 👋🏻

My F150 cab is the same size of my old F350. F350. 2008. F150 2020. F350 6.4 power stroke. F150 3.5 Ecoboost. F350 5 foot bed. F150 6 1/2 foot bed. F350 no real lockers. F150 rear lockers. F350 King Ranch. F150 XLT. Why I went with the F150. They made parking garages and parking spots much smaller. My F150 is lower to the ground. Yet. Longer. Would I buy a HD. The price mint be $64,000 plus. It's the taxes. Last year. My taxes on my F150 finally got under the monthly payment. To expensive. I don't want another vehicle payment. To expensive. The payment. The taxes. The insurance. The technology in my F150. I only use 5% of it. Technology is pointless for myself in any type of vehicle. I own a 2004 Jeep Grand Cherokee. It has an alarm and auto start. That's it. Not even a radio.

Love the info in this video, but Dude, take a pill, way too hyper to even understand your thoughts. Take a breath and relax.