I think the bigger issue is…why do these companies withhold compensation information? That this is a practice indicates something is wrong

When I get a catering order, if the pay isn’t really large in the beginning, I don’t even even bother with it. I’ve already been burned by these low pay catering orders that never go up once the delivery is completed. If the order doesn’t show a large amount in the beginning, don’t bother with it.

I think DD executives have meetings and say “How can we screw our drivers today???” Ridiculous…

This past week, I have declined 5 Catering orders, never have I done that in a week. What insight! Thanks

The shadiest thing DoorDash does is hide tips! It hurts the best paying customers and it’s like playing game with us dashers, but why? 🤦🏻‍♀️

It's easy to know. I didn't see much change here in Tacoma, WA. Except for most cathering orders are coming with extremely laughable pay. The plus sign still show up on some of them. But the risk of driving too far and long wait for non less pay catering orders is very high. Because those costumers are taking advantage of the change.

Man i did 1 dash in the last 4 months,actually had the app deleted, because Doordash changed alot of Rules,payout's,Peak Pay & the ability to Dash Now! Hell i scheduled a Dash & when it was time to log in It wouldn't let Get on saying it's slow yet i had uber eats on was in a restaurant & seen 3 dashers come & get orders 🤦🏿

I have the catering benefit I’ve had it for years

I haven't seen a catering order tag in over a week. I did however get a 22 piece order with a + today. Two Thursdays back I did get a catering bag mark that was 130 milkshakes and 5 smoothies. Got a $120 tip while doordash payed me $3.25.

Some catering order only pay what it says and doesn’t go up at all and when that happens it sucks

I recently had a catering order that was like a few bucks. It was across town and the wait wasn’t long luckily but the restaurant mentioned something about the tip and to bring the receipt back if it came to that. I delivered and there was no tip upon completion. I texted customer if they wanted to leave a tip after the order if they ordered on the app but they didn’t respond. I was upset but this wasn’t the first time it’s happened. Years ago, there was a restaurant that kept taking my tips bc some customers tipped afterwards and I had to bring the receipt back and the restaurant would say “we will get it to you somehow…” It was horrible and inconsistent.

$4 on 1.4 miles I took Just because I was going that direction. Saw that the store did the ordering for the doordash and for some reason they left the original order ticket on showing a $75 tip that I got $0 for. There's some real dirty ways some of these stores do this stuff. Sometimes it makes me wonder if some of these $3 orders that I'm denying might actually be better than they seem, but they just feel like we're kissing frogs hoping it turns into a prince.

Red Robin - catering order today - $8 delivery, $3 setup. 4.5 miles. $0 tips.

I've had large orders that pay 6 for less than a mile payout over 30. DD plays to many games

With some catering partners and tip stealing by restaurants I think if more customers knew this was happening then maybe we could get some action, i doubt they enjoy having their money go places they never meant to send it.

I've been in the catering program since last June. It was amazing. Then the Boston area was hit with the Tiers program in early December. December was normal since a ton were under the 70% acceptance rate. Once January hit the switch was flipped and most of not all of the catering orders disappeared. It's been well over a month since I've seen a decent one. Way too many are in the program now . I don't even see the bad ones going from Burlington to Boston. The + orders seem to be disappearing as well like you said. A few of the regular catering customers in my area had massive layoffs so I get that shinks the pool but this program is nowhere close to what it was 2 months ago.

I dash here in Charlotte as well. I've taken orders like that twice. They worked out cool. However, it was a cash order. But I had to ask for it.

Ok , this was value cause that program is a game changer. I love the weekends

How long does someone have to wait on the order to be completed before possibly getting a contract violation as I was told by DD support today for waiting too long for the catering order to be done which would put me being really late delivering the order? I know we have a bit of time past pick up by time but when the order should have been picked up by 11:09 and I didn’t get the order till 11:12. I waited 25 + minutes with the restaurant saying every few minutes that it will be done in a few minutes. Customer calling me and the restaurant upset it was taking so long. DD support basically said I will get a contract violation for lateness that I would have to dispute or I could unassign penalty free so I took that option. I definitely don’t want to go through that again. Thankfully I got a high paying non catering order at a restaurant across the road within seconds of after I unassigned that order.

UPDATE: orders marked as catering orders completely stopped at the beginning of March. I haven't received one since and I know it's not cause my stats went to low cause they never did

I got a cater order yesterday 5.50+.... I bet it was another .50. Ether way, no one was touching it because it came back to me 15 minutes later after dropping off an order.

I remember doing their catering program when it first came out. It’s not like it used to be to be honest. Most of these orders now are given to the top dasher but before catering jobs came out the night before

Doordash has made horrible changes. I've been dashing for 5 years, this year I was averaging about $160 a day but they changed to the tier system and now I make about $20 a day which cannot sustain me so I have to quit dashing. I was a good Dasher, I dashed with integrity and I wanted the customer to have a good experience. Lately I'm reading a lot of comments about dashers intentionally messing with people's food on no tip orders. It seems to be going on quite a bit and I think that's what's going to kill doordash in the end. Doordash cannot expect dashers to continue to deliver their food for little or no pay it's just not going to work. It has gotten so slow in my area and I'm in a major city. I get like 1 dash an hour. I have a 100 percent completion rate and an AR of 85 percent. I can't live off of $20 a day. I'm telling you doordash is going to go the way of the dinosaur.

I got into the catering program mostly because restaurants would put me as the favorite driver in the app.

On that Pizza order you waited an hour for the acceptance screenshot showed $6 but on the payout screenshot on the bottom it said "payout was more than the $7 shown at acceptance". Why? There was $1 peak pay also which means at the acceptance, assuming you know the hidden tip indicator is $4 and you were aware of the peak pay, you wouldn't take that order regardless of the catering program indicator because you'd know it's not going higher than $6 right? What's going on here? Why is there a discrepancy? You weren't shown $7 at acceptance. You were shown $6. ??? Even if that peak pay started at 11:30am it doesn't make sense for DD to retroactively add it to an order you accepted at 11:11am. ???

Do you have a video on how you do orders in DT Charlotte? It feels like it’s impossible to dash over there because of the parking.

I feel I am getting all the orders that everybody rejects. I have been forced to get even $1 a mile orders. Even with 90% acceptance. No more asking to take picture of the catering bag. Also I’m not getting orders from the usual restaurants that have better clients. When is very busy I get a cvs or Walgreens order. While restaurants are lit up in the app. I’m at a loss and getting very worried.

Seems no matter what, cherry pickers with low AR and Top dashers will make pretty much the same unless theres no orders or to many dashers. Things are fine the way they are in my opinion, because if it paid more, then more want to do it hence the over saturation and deactivations. In hind sight if everyone was top tier or top dasher there would be no ''rewards'' . You are not going to have 10,000 catering orders in a metro area in one night. Seems the cherry pickers are like wolves waitng patiently and dont have the hourly w2 mind set, its just wait for that money, and you got the top dashers that arent patient and want the money now, so take everything. In the end, I think both types are vital to keep the platform running for the longivity stand point. To calculate all the 5-8pm part timers and those 12hr a day cherry pickers. Id think the only difference between the 2 are the mileage they accumlate in the end.

Yeah it seems most orders are catering im focused on shop and delivery i get priority. I do alot of alcohol and shop and delivery orders , even got a certificate for liquor delivery through door dash l. Orders big pay out big order or multiple orders so i invested in a bike trail Carla cargo trailer and a west marine “fold it” trailer

You will only see + symbols if you have a high AR. I still get catering orders when I have a low AR and they always hide the tip. In my experience I’ve noticed if the catering order is not 2-1 (Money/miles) it displays full payout. If it shows $8.00 even it’s probably base pay and the merchant withheld the tip. Experienced dashers know what to look for. I’m never taking a large order under $6.00 .

Are there any dashers who typically make more than minimum wage after fuel costs are deducted? So far doordashing seems like a minimum wage job that puts a lot of mileage on your car.

So DoorDash enables restaurants to steal tips from dashers. That's fucking gross. Why the fuck should I keep dashing if they are just stealing from me?

Also, I don’t think this will hurt the company at all. Yeah it might cause delays in orders but that customer won’t look into it and realize that their tip is being hidden from the dasher. And being that a lot of them are actual catering orders, they’re probably willing to wait longer Last but not least, Americans (can’t speak for the world) don’t know how to vote with their money. These are the same type of people who STILL buy the new NBA2K game after complaining about how it’s been the same for the past 5 years.

Door dash should just be honest and say the total Upfront. We shouldn’t t be wondering what will it be. Sometimes a + is just $.50. So it’s always a risk to take them to start and then what if a catering order didn’t tip.

There another cue besides that sign lol I’m not even in the diamond program still and I’m in the lop if the miles are close to wat the pay shows upon acceptance that is wat your getting or its not going up by more than 3 dollars than wat u saw

Hard work always pays off and I’m still working towards unlocking the clattering badge for sure. 👍

I'm in a diamond zone and my AR is single digits so i never see a plus sign on orders. I've been in the LOP for a few years now. The indicator is either a $6 or $12 with that catering bag tag. Only a handful of times has it not gone up.

Just know anyone on LOP don’t expect to have it forever. I had it for a year and one day last October they just threw me off. No email, no heads up, and just like that my earnings were cut in half. Called support three times all they say is you’re still on it and I’m clearly not. Typical DD bs

I’m not in the catering program but last Saturday I got a catering bag order for 12 miles, I took it because it said catering bag and usually they pay out more, but I was paid maybe 2/3less then the type of order I would take for time and miles

how do you start getting catering orders?

I use to call DoorDash and ask what the half pay was to know if it was worth taking now you can’t do that lol

I wonder what’s going on with the wait times on these catering orders. I had 2 catering orders from chick fila as well and I also had to wait an hour both times. I know before they would’ve been ready as soon as I got there. Or maybe it’s just a one-off situation?

what do I do if I was going out to Door dash and my clutch went I drive a 6 speed manuel turbo i lost control on the highway shifting into 5th went off the road and hit trees I did extensive damage. How do I not lose my job? posted on the 8 things to know from 4 years ago wasnt sure if you checked those messages still.

I had over 30 catering orders come over my phone in 1 day and not one of them had a tip. I did take thr chance on a couple of those orders and I got what it first showed. Plus I was at BJs restaurant the other day on a catering order and they held the food for over a hour. And how I know is the pizza box was cold and wrinkly

Good video! very informative so tired of these drive along video I pick up food I deliver food all day I don't want to ride with someone else lol

I have not gotten a + order worth doing in weeks. Always is under a dollar added. What’s going on?

I totally agree. I got in the catering program last November. I used to get excited when a catering order I was like oh yeah let’s get this money. Lately tho(last two weeks) I’ve gotten more catering orders than usual but the payouts have been way less profitable. I’ve gone from $40 on avg per order to like $15-20. Needless to say the excitement has diminished. I get more higher paying regular orders now

Do you only get catering orders if you're in the lop? I got one yesterday. So I guess I'm lop? I rarely get catering orders

Bentley have a question. Little bit of my introduction. I have been doing doordash for 4 years now 15000 plus deliveries. I have been in the catering program for 3 years, used to get three or more catering orders every single day. I saw your video. As you mentioned things have changed. As you mentioned, catering order doesn't come with a plus sign now. But the strange thing is I haven't got any of them since 1 month!! I also receive emails from doordash that I have been prioritized for shop and deliver many times but I still was a top priority dasher of my area. These days most of the time I get Walmart pickups and shopping orders. Hardly even any food orders Do you think should I opt out of shop and pay has mentioned in their email? If it helps any, just wondering why I doesn't get catering orders. I even contacted support two or three times. They say I'm already have the best priority for catering orders but still I don't see any. So confused😢

Been a dasher since 2019..have over 10k deliveries ..top dasher status..even bought a catering bag from doordash..still can’t get into the large order program..makes no sense to me

Love your posts! Thank your u for sharing.

No plus sign .....is a take at face value ...not going up. Still seeing plus signs in my area, I've been burned 3 or 4 times in catering orders without the plus

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Same as it ever was

Yet another indicator that they never should've taken away pre- scheduled catering orders...smh......

I have over 4500 deliveries and I have not seen any catering offers. And all my stats meet the criteria. B S program

I’ll be taking all catering orders now. Thank you!

I've found that in my area, if the offer pays less than $1 per mile, that's all you're going to get, no matter the number of items or how expensive the restaurant. I noticed the lack of a olus sign on catering offers this week. I thought it was just me, so thanks for validating that. I've also noticed that the better the dollar to mile ratio, the more you will receive upon delivery of the order. $6.00 for 0.7 miles is almost 10 times the $1 to 1 mile ratio. That would net approximately $55 to $60 by my calculations. One night this week I had 3 catering offers and all of them paid face value, but all were within $1.50 or less per mile. I received no extra pay for any of the 3 offers. But the one offering $15 for 7.3 miles paid out $27. on Sunday night. Almost $2 a mile, and the payout was almost 2 times the initial offer. I'll be testing my method this week.

In my market; any cater order with $10 or above as a starting offer has a hidden tip.

me personally i’m a dasher i love doing it /money is money specially today’s economy in the crapper /u shouldn’t be greedy so id definitely take that order go deliver -drop off /setup and go get more orders sorry but i wouldn’t be complaint over money that’s shows how shallow/ greedy you are of only always wanting the highest payout which is mega nice to have to but all the time like cmon/ if i’m waiting for food i always talk to the customer through text or call to tell them what’s going on -they love that so they tell whomever what’s going on don’t worry it’s coming etc

Please I need an answer

Haven't seen a catering order in over a week. Anyone else having this issue at the moment?

At 47% AR you won’t see the + symbol on any order lol

Never take EZcatering. They keep the tips. They go through DD

Correct me if I am wrong but legally they have to show the total payout of the order not an indicator it may be higher.. They are contractually supposed to show us the base pay plus the full amount of the tips that the customer can increase after the fact.. but they aren't supposed to hide any part of the tips at all.. So that indicator is technically illegal operations right? Not only that but they aren't supposed to be allowed to prioritize drivers over others based off their AR, They have punishing drivers by not giving them access to the higher paying orders like that because of the AR. From my research the AR is the only thing they legally can't punish you for but yet they find ways of doing that. Forcing us to take orders we don't wan't to take and send out 90% orders that are only base pay with high millage. Honestly doordash is screwing us and making up new shit every day not to pay us the way they are supposed to.. I am seriously looking into attorneys to try to get this shit changed because the way they treat the dashers is absurd I know we are not employees but we still have rights for fair pay and treatment as contractors. Transparency in our pay is supposed to be 100% not a guessing game.

Has anymore here been experiencing no large order coming thru anymore. They now come as normal orders with no catering bag required and anyone can get it? It's been about 4 weeks and I still. Have not gotten any catering order. Please can you address this? I dash in MD Annapolis

Took a 12.50 order 17 items .. its going 1 mi.. no hidden tip.. im sure store stole tip

Yea, I just do not understand at all the practice of hiding, masking and manipulating the payout total. It just doesn't make sense at all. Why not just be transparent and show the full amount. Also tired of them giving less doordash pay for very far miles, just because the customer tip is good. I never take chances on any order, unless the order looks right when I 1st see it, and I never over commit to any order that would take too long unless it's paying 30+, because I'm multi apping and need to be available to take the best order available at the time or multiple orders simultaneously, sometimes I'm delivering 3,4,5 even 6 orders at one time and still manage to get them all reasonably on time.

Not foolproof but, I have found. If the offer is below $2 per mile, that's all your getting.

I think this change just shows us more of the direction door dash is going into. Making dashers homogenized and randomized. If the new brainwashed people get used to taking all orders to keep the numbers up, then all the drivers with high numbers have a more equal chance of getting the catering. I know top dashers that only dash by time who make $25 an order regularly but since they are on time, they are letting those orders sit in the car while dropping off all the other apps first and dropping the door dash order on the final minute ( sometimes an hour). Unlike me, I'm trying to do at least 3 an hour whether I'm by time or by order.

If that was the same order why does it show originally $6 to higher than $7 original offer showing on bottom of the final payout?… strange…

WHY DOES DOOR DASH PLAYING GAMES WITH ORDERS

Its been well over a month since I’ve received a large paying catering job on the platform. I used to count on at least 1-2 of these per day to make ends meet now theyre gone!? Thats like taking a 20-40% pay cut!!! What the hell!!!

Hey Bro Are you a top dasher ?

Most of the doom Im hearing on this vlog, I think may relate to the protest possibly hurting the organization making some customers look elsewhere to order or to get the food themselves. Since valentines day I was doing well and now its been a tug of war with orders with DD. Those that deliver and use the app to have things delivered to there home may have noticed lots of promos in there emails about discounts on using the doordash delivery services. This tells me they are fighting to keep the stocks up to please the investors lol. Also seeing ton of new dashers taking 2 dollar orders. But this video seems as if it was created to motivate thousands of dashers to be the ''top dasher'' to get to that Large Order Program lol. I predict the CEO will make 500 million this yr if not more!!!!

You guys are gullible. Nothing has changed. The only reason it didn't show the plus sign is because the acceptance rate was under 50%. Diamonds and plus sign only appear above 50% like it's always been. Just talking nonsense for views. Unbelievable people.

Oh yaaaaaay more BS from DD and Bentley always finds a way to justify it. L🤡