I always love the shades of Blue AMD uses for their modern workstation cards.

Maaaaaate you're almost at half a million?! I remember you being at 50k or something, insane. Atleast it feels like that, it was a year before the 10 series gtx cards released i think. Anyway mate, form a long time subscriber, cheers. You earned this stuff so much, and i'm glad to see you're doing this well. Greatings from your neighbours at the other side of the english channel

Workstation cards used to run on either special GPU chips or modified ones to make them better suited to certain tasks like CAD, but these days it the same GPUs that are used in gamer cards also due a lot workstation realted tasks needing typical things on game cards as well, bigest difference and also why the prices are way higher are the used components, since they have a way higher quality so those cards can run under full preasure non stop if they have to, also less prone to calculation errors due a better RAM setup and the more stable drivers, so if you can get those as a good deal go for it.

That's a pretty card. I'd love to be able to buy cards with that restrained look and compact dimensions.

If you need to get a low profile RX 6400, avoid the cheap XFX version. I like XFX cards generally, but I tried two of those and they were hitting 90° constantly, even on an open bench. The Saphire low profile version runs about 10-15° lower due to a better designed heat sink. Weighs about 50% more, and the fan was more quiet. Barely larger, fits into equally tiny systems. Great for making old SFF office PCs into acceptable 1080p Low gaming consoles.

I love it. It looks straight out of the early 2000s.

Very interesting video, I'm always curios to see how hardware performs in tasks it wasn't really designed for i.e. GPUs or workstation CPUs. :)

Reminds me of the blue that they used on the RADEON 7 cards on the higher end ones. I really wanted one of those the BLUE Shroud on the water cooled ones was beautiful. Less Aluminum but still doesn't look god awful. Could get you through if you need a GPU as a backup.

I bought a RX6600 just before Christmas, an Asus model. I just went straight to the AMD site for the drivers but managed to get the Pro drivers rather than the game drivers - the icon in the system tray is blue rather than red. It looks rather the same to the game drivers but I read somewhere that the Pro drivers are more stable and so it seems to be - I haven't had any crashes so far which apparently happens with the game drivers. But as they say, if it ain't broke don't fix it so I'll keep using the Pro drivers. 😁

While filming a monitor you should try -0.7 exposure compensation, it gives much better picture.

I switched to the Radeon Pro drivers a few months ago to see if driver crashes reduced. It's made my RX 6700XT usable now!. There are some games such as indie games that will simply not run but the trade off seems to be more FPS and stability in mainstream games.

It always amazes me how Steve manages to find obscure graphics cards. I don't know how far he is willing to go back on his channel regarding aged cards, but I would love to see some AGP cards put through their paces. Great video as always, Steve.

Most underrated tech channel on KZfaq for sure. 💖

I really like your content. I really appreciate a KZfaqr that reviews hardware most of us can actually afford. If possible, I’d like for you to test some older pro gpu’s from AMD like the FirePro w4300, w5100 and w7100 as well the newer cards like Radeon Pro wx3100, wx3200, wx4100 and wx5100. I see a lot of them on eBay and I’m curious to see how they perform.

you're so close to 500k!!!

I'd love one but they are normally expensive (for the performance segment).

The interesting professional GPUs are the RTX A4000 and PRO W6800

500k incoming babeh woooo

Radeon 680m in ryzen laptop APUs is already as good as this, can't wait to see what next gen desktop APUs based on RDNA3 can do 😀

Awesome sauce.

I love these sff low profile gpus 💪🥰🥳! Great to see these tiny powerhouses 💪😇.

Look, I actually REALLY DONT CARE about these cards, up until you bring them up, how dare you. But then again this is why I subscribed, keep gooiiing!!!! All the best!

Cheap DisplayPort-to-HDMI adapter may work in the future. Just my 2cents. Thanks for making the video!

Man it still performed well!

damn this card is a beast for its looks

Great video, didn't know that card (or its driver) existed. So just for fun, owning a spanking-new RX 6400 in my HTPC, I decided to try the PRO driver on it. Here are some benchmarks run with the latest regular driver (Adrenalin 22.11.2) with Afterburner running, but of course, no overclocks: (i7 7700, 16GB Ram, PCIe 3 slot). Superposition 1080P Medium 6339, FPS Min 37.28, Ave 47.42, Max 66.94 Timespy graphics score: 3568 Firestrike Extreme Graphics Score: 5301 Firestrike Graphics Score: 11905 Mesh Shader Feature Test: 14.05 off, 128.55 on, difference 814.9% Tiny Tina's Wonderlands Benchmark: 88.98FPS And now, the same benchmarks after switching to the 22.Q4 "PRO" driver: Superposition 1080P Medium: 6346, FPS Min 37.94, Ave 47.47, Max 67.01 (Essentially identical) Timespy graphics score: 3527 (Very slightly worse) Firestrike Extreme Graphics Score: 5302 (Essentially identical) Firestrike Graphics Score: 11867 (Very slightly worse) Mesh Shader Feature Test: 12.92 off, 129.13 on, difference 899.8% Tiny Tina's Wonderlands Benchmark: 83.15FPS (Slightly worse, but with A LOT of stuttering) Due to the considerable stuttering in TTW, I went back to the normal drivers, and the stuttering went away.

The card design is identical to the Sapphire Pulse RX6400 low-profile card, down to the bracket design. I'm sure Sapphire is the one manufacturing the reference and professional AMD cards.

I've been meaning to do Pro Driver testing on my Radeon VII for a good while now, especially considering the uplifts that I had with the RX Lexa ("550", 02 GB) in applications such as Vegas Pro, where there was an improvement of about 05% in Render Times on the same project with no major changes: Now, while I don't expect that the Instinct MI50/MI60 and Radeon Pro VII drivers will impact the Radeon VII nearly as much as what I saw on the Lexa for the Polaris Pro drivers, I am certain that there will be some considerable improvements to software compatibility in certain aspects, very likely some games and emulators will benefit from this to an extent but wishfully it doesn't prevent certain other things from working, it'll be worth the analysis and wishfully this'll turn out with some effective results that'll stick going forward. (:

i headbanged through every performance demonstration, like a real professional

The lack of video encoder is making this card absolutely pointless for me, maybe except for being a display adapter. Funnily enough, it doesn't even have an HDMI 2.1 port. Hardware encoder is so important in so many workloads - video editing, ffmpeg, handbrake, OBS Studio and all those stuff. RTX 3050 in video editing is so much more useful than GTX 1080 Ti, and this is the reason - RTX 3050 has the 7th gen NVENC, which is substantially better than the 6th gen NVENC found on GTX 1080 Ti. RX 6000 GPU has brilliant HEVC encoder, and they're blazingly fast, although quality is a bit lower than 7th gen NVENC. I can't think of a single reason for AMD to cut down the Encoder on these lower ends RDNA2 cards, because it's just an FPGA and is super cheap, but super useful.

Surprisingly good for such a small card.

That's really impressive for the price you got it.

Could you please see what temperatures you get if you adjust the fan curve??? That would be very interesting to see!!! By the way, didn't know about PRO drivers being compatible!!!! Damn this is so good!! I went right ahead and installed it for my RX 460 OEM model, and it worked like a charm!!! Not that I noticed a difference, but good to know! :D I hate frequent updates anyway ;-P

There's a card you just don't see around.

The pro drivers are validated and certified to work with certain 3D rendering and video editing software, where applicable.

Would be nice to see a side by side comparison with nvidia quadro

It always amuses me how blue the shrouds of these workstation cards from the company usually referred to as Team _Red_ are.

Please do a Emulation Test on this card :) I will love u!

will there be a 500k subs special video?

The "pro" in the drivers and the gpus on amd cards are mote like "for companies" than a professional use, the pro drivers can be used with regular gpus, I used with mine like this for months, the difference is that they don't have the "gaming" things and optimizations for games that the regular drivers have, apart from this, it's basically the same drivers

Id recomend metal for recording as it doesn't affect performance that much and would be useful in this case

😒👍 that cards configuration is a MUST for newer DELL OEM SFF Cases! the video card slot is at the very bottom right up against the PSU! u must use single slot cards or its a no go!

I would now like to know if this is cut down. Being a workstation card I would imagine it has encode/decode capabilities ... that the RX 6400 does not ...

I use the pro drivers on my 6600 xt and i'll tell you that it feels like the card is more stable and sometimes i even get a little boost over the adrenaline drivers. Atleast this was the situation 2 months ago, when i decided to switch.

another important thing to bear in mind when you mention recording is that the rx 64/500s do not have a h264 encoder, making recording far more annoying to do, both using amd's software or just obs

Workstation GPUs probably just suck money from the business market. Some of them do however feature things like double floating point precision, but newer GPUs likely have that anyway.

Homework : ❌ RandomGamingInHD Video : ✅

For things like CGI or CAM/CAM modelling and the regarding test rendering as well as image processing you don't need the accelerated encoding/decoding. It's only relevant for video processing.

Ha. I have heard that description about cards not working with the drivers installed and its the power supply.

What does make it attractive are the two full sized DP ports, in contrast to the mixed outputs the regular 6400 has. Doesn't outweigh the drawbacks, though...

I've been using the pro drivers on my rx 470 for a few months now. Performance is essentially identical but stability is noticeably higher. I used to have this issue where display output would sometimes have a fizzly "no signal on a CRT" type effect, but after installing the pro drivers, the issue is gone and I haven't had any driver crashes either

Compare to the generation of console like One / PS4 it's very impressive how this card perform ! Okay it's not the card to play in ultra in high fps but consume only 40W max and can run game in medium 1080p60 with FSR ! It's really very efficient !

please do a review of rx6600 pro as well.

Are you going to check out the Forspoken demo?

I use the PRO drivers with an rx6950xt and there is no practical difference in performance for me, however, with such a powerful card I can generally play everything on max settings and get 144fps at 1440p. The biggest difference comes in stability as I've never had a driver crash with the pro drivers, whereas the red drivers can be a bit finicky even sticking with the stable versions. The second observation is that my temps are lower by a few C on average - no idea why this is but it's welcome as these cards can run pretty hot.

Can you make a undervolt video of hardware , cpu and gpu. with a msi. asus , asrock and gigabyte bios on intel core i7 and ryzen 5 2600.

🙂 buddy, for older PCIe3 motherboards could you do a bunch of tests with the 6400 VS 550, for tiny small form factor oem pcs they have versions of these 2, i was wondering if its worth spending more on the 6400 or is it going to run the same as the 550 in an older motherboard? thank you and Godspeed 🙏😇

I just want GPU prices to come back down to Earth. It's ridiculous that prices are so stupidly high and it's because of people who have more money than sense that are willing to pay thousands for stuff that's worth a 10th of what they're selling for.

so here is someone who knows a bit more about the variety of use cases (worked at a computer store which sold to pretty much any type of customer). These low profile cards mostly got put into 2U racks (about 6 at a time, customer bought 18) to put video out onto a wall of displays. A server for rendering -> this thing is power efficient and comparably silent (customer bought 5). It was used inside the office. The Nvidia cards are rather loud if you want the performance. Tiny workstation PCs for CAD in a University environment. NVidia was considered, but the Linux devices had problems for some reason (As stated by customer, apparently they have an old software proprietary but running on Unixoids) In these environments, Decode only does not hurt at all.

Well, you got a deal. Odd deals are true gems sometimes...

How does this compare to other workstation cards eg. the nvidia T600?

Who'd have thought that such a small, compact, low power GPU would work so well at decent settings? FSR also helps.

If this could be picked up for cheap, then itmay be good option for low profile emulation machines made from office PCs

So you can do blender tenders with the 12 rt cores? But not as significantly fast, but still more so than a cpu would be on its own right?

Every time this guy starts RDR2 the poor people of Valentine: *panics* "Oh no, no again another test!"

Good to see low end part's can at least play a couple of games,because not everyone can afford the top of the range pc parts.

A true "professional" toaster!

Also use the adrenalin drivers

As this is for compact small form factor PCs. The only real comparison is with other LP low power cards.

Does it output Audio over the Display Port?

Sometimes "pro" just means "for companies", not that any specific pro use of it will be made. It's ok that it doesn't have features for pros who actually need GPU power. These cards usually just go into pre-built workstations because pro CPUs don't have integrated cards. Some company is going to spend $3000 for each one of 20 PCs so... why should the PC maker put in an outdated underpowered option? What's $100 more for the buyer? These are a cooler and better alternative to the GT 710 category. Actual changes from the RX are sober aesthetics, a quiet and power-efficient cooling setup, a low-profile option, the aforementioned chubbier price-tag and... a different name, so that a reassuring page for professionals will come out instead of KZfaqrs playing games with the card (until now, I guess).

Imagine buying W6400 just for that single slot design & expecting to be a competitor to Nvidia RTX A2000, only to be scammed by similar performance to RX 6400. Any chance that Radeon Pro W6600 would perform the same as RX6600?

Refurb A2000 can be found on Amazon right now for $249 a LP rtx 3050 great deal right now.

god those cards are fucking adorable

WHAT GPU IS THE MOST POWERFUL THAT LOW PROFILE THAT FIT IN D19 ITX CHASE?

R9 Fury X with Nimez drivers when?

The encoder thing is probably not as big a deal as you might think. Actual media producers/editors wouldn't use these low-end pro cards. They're more likely to be used for lightweight CAD and prototype work and perhaps to accelerate some workloads that could overwhelm a CPU.

No-need-for-extra-power-connector is a Very Big Thing when using retired business machine with small power supply. 250-350W PSU's are common in business desktops as you know. Just because of those machines are not disappearing, rx6400-series is useful. Nvidia GTX1050/1050ti was very popular for such PCs, but rx6400 seems to be way faster than even gtx1050ti? Have you tested gtx1050ti vs. rx6400? Another question; can you overclock your W6400 - would it help?

It reminds me of the same blue that AMD uses on adrenaline pro drivers

AMD FirePro W7100 8GB can be had for the same price you paid, would that not be the more capable desktop GPU?

I know you have made a general commentary on the subject several times but... how large are your hands exactly? They look like you could squeeze a basketball with one hand as if it were a stress-ball...

Wow no video encoder. 😆 What is it for then. I guess just for vram to use on digital and 3d graphics software. But I assumed it needed video encoding for that. Guess I was wrong.

why do they keep making full sized PCIe interfaces when they wire just for x4?

Iol, you cut out the part where you died in fortnite 😂

Does Amd Afmf work on this card?

What is the program called you use to see the fps, °C, energy, etc.

You could probably mod it to run it passively, damn

Would have loved a "6400 XT"... full Navi 24, but not with every bit of performance squeezed out of it/shit efficiency (6500XT). LP models and no power connector.

Intended card use is OEMS padding profit margin. People don't know that on board video is good enough for most business purposes and the w6400 is isn't necessary to get video output.

1:16 is that a broken PCIe tooth?

I have an HD 8xxx low profile gpu that has that same exact cooler 😭

How come they don't use all the pins?

It is a very good card if you want to save some money due to the low wattage.

They said that this can do VR, can you please test that? I'm really suprised when they said it can do VR

Had this card in my i5 4570 for a day and love it but my cpu run at 99 need help

As someone from the "Pro" industry, the w 6400 doesnt really make sense. I can forgive that its ok for it to not have encoders but at least it should have multiple mini DP ports so it can be used for expanded view setups such as advertising screens. or atleast it should have 6Gb of vram to handle above average workloads for displaying

i bet one could use this in an m2 slot if sawed off correctly

All this fuss about the lack of hardware encoding on the RX/W6400 (mine is the ASRock Challenger ITX version) is kind of baffling. I recorded about a half-hour of Guild Wars 2 (medium-high settings; on my Ryzen 5 3600 + 16 gigs 3600MHz DDR4 with OBS' default recording settings, so a 2500 bitrate) on the weekend and didn't notice any performance dips (only had Steam's FPS counter, so no actual stats). Only meant to record for like 5 minutes, since it was just to test, but I got distracted and only remembered that it was recording when I alt-tabbed to look up something on the GW2 wiki. :P Maybe it's only bad on CPU-intensive, very high framerate games or when streaming? Now THERE's an idea for a video: RX/W6400 performance differences when playing (with external capture) and when recording. edit: Hmm. So, from the sounds of things, the only differences between this version of the card and the normal low profile version really seems to be swapping the HDMI for another DisplayPort, the specific set of drivers being used and, of course, the price. Weird.

would this work with 180w psu

Can you overclock this one?