YES! Fantastic comment

the mind as a neural betwork has to work new memories and understanding onto the framework that already exists so your understanding of what you observe is built out of the shapes your brain already understands how to use. learning is just updating the framework iteratively as you go. unfortunately self awareness is the concious process of assesing your decision making with comparison to your personal levels of chronothesia so the only way completey avoid this limitation would be to have an exhaustive knowledge of every possibility in physics. good luck with that. although on the bright side it means free will is properly a thing as its an inevitable side effect of interpretive sensory negative cybernetic feedback loops. so in theory everyone can be deprogrammed and "saved". neuroplasticity willing. tldr, what seth said.

Wow I hadn't thought about that. What a smart anecdote!

I had a slightly different interpretation...in that they may indeed believe in vampires, but switching to THAT belief would clearly put them on the wrong side of that equation. So they believe the comforting belief instead to avoid the mental cost of realizing they have made a terrible, ongoing mistake. (Similarly to how claims of alien abductions get immediately reinterpreted as demons to fool mankind, etc. I can't help but think the God believers suspect the alien claims are true, and have to cut off that possibility at the pass by grandfathering in that possible "reality" into their own. If aliens turn out to be real...well then, they are clearly demons. Not that I believe alien abduction, but I think it is clear God believers of certain flavors find it very easy to also believe aliens are real--and can't square that circle.)

@@greyeyed123 that makes sense too. It's probably a combination of both. I knew quite a few people who legitimately believed in aliens-and that aliens were actually demons that were pretending to be aliens to trick the world so they'd be less likely to believe in Jesus. 😂

My favorite is when they proclaim a literal reading but speak of allegory depending on the verse It's all literal, except for the bits that make me look like a bad person.

She took every verse out of context though. The way she uses the bible can never produce a coherent theology. She just needs a quick verse that sounds like it justifies her behaviour, doesn't matter if the bible could realistically be interpreted that way.

I've fallen out of practice with it, but when I was younger, I had read through the Bible about five times or so and could also quote scripture at will. It was very curious to see how I could also cherry-pick verses to prove or counter points. This was especially fun when any neighboring Mormons or Jehova's Witnesses came to visit quoting scripture to prove their point of view.

@@Anonymous-sb9rr That's....exactly the way the real world uses it. The way ANYONE uses the Bible could never produce a coherent theology, because it's incoherent.

​@@hannibalbarca1147 Explain the Catholic Church, then. Catholicism has a very clear theology. We even have a book that explains our entire theology called the "catechism of the Catholic church". Every verse in the entire Bible has been explained in detail at some point or another by Catholic theologians or scholars in the past 2000 years. There is not a single thing in the Bible that the Catholic church does not have an answer to. Go read the catechism for yourself if you want an idea of what a coherent theology looks like.

I fully get this, bev scenes almost never failed to stir a feeling of rage, as she reminded me of the things I was brought up around. And spoke in ways I'd been spoken too for leaving the church.

I shaved my beard and wore a wig to dress as Bev for Halloween, she was the scariest thing I could think of.

Catholicism nor fundamentalism are Christian although they proclaim themselves to be. Let us remember that Christ was NOT a christian, Christ was Christ…christianity was built and organized around Christs teachings

@@Williamb612 Tell that to the myriads of other self-identified Christians. They especially don't like being subjected to the no true Scotsman fallacy. By about a year and a half after ditching my theism, having watched a number of Christian on Christian debates, I came to believe there isn't *a* Christianity. Just as Jews & Muslims are divided over the core tenets of their respective religions, so too, are Christians divided. I don't believe anyone follows the Jesus in the New Testament stories. There isn't one Christ. He's been picked apart & divided by 2 billion adherents of hundreds upon hundreds of "denominations". (sects, if you prefer) It's all fake & it's all a bad joke.

@@ryanhall7607 Nice!

The vampire did not seem to not have any real motivation to me. It's as otherworldly as an angel would be, but that may be because it's presumably been trapped in an underground ruin for what could have been a thousand or more years. It's alien to modern society, I don't think it understands English, possibly it can't speak at all and we never witness it do so. For the most part I don't think it understands what is going on around it, especially in a religious context. It follows Monseigneur Pruitt because of their link, and Pruitt assumes it has a plan. It shows up randomly, and other than being instructed to wear clothing on a couple of occasions acts animalistically/moistly on impulse. Pruitt is unwittingly attributing what is happening to the angel's plan, while simultaneously creating said plan without any real guidance. From the perspective that the angel represents radicalization, it has no real motivation of its own, it can only be used as a tool for others, whether they start out with malicious intensions or not. It's simply another idea that can be either accepted or rejected by humans.

@@bleepbloop101010101agree. But it does follow and seem to understand what it needs to do, so that is interesting

Know 'Belief It Or Not'? He's a very good Atheist-KZfaqr. And Viced Rhino? He's more 'direct' but i never saw that as 'Unpoliteness' and instead as a strong Drive to find the real Truth.

7:14 timestamp

@@xstatic-ow5mz yayyy well done captain obvious 👏👏👏

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Bev is a monster

While the creature doesn't seem capable in most of the scenes we witness, Pruitt claims to be in communication with it. It wears clothes, and conspires with Pruitt to convert the town's entire population by rarely feeding on anything besides pests and other stray animals. Therefore it intellectually exploits his faith, and doesn't act solely with the purpose or modus operandi of a wild animal.

Oh yeah, the actress that portrayed Bev did a fantastic job of getting me to hate her guts

@@futurestoryteller that's why the last episode kinda felt like deus ex machina for me... he was supposed to be inteligent and the mastermind behind it, manipulating even the priest, but in the end, he started acting purely on his animal instincts, they pour gas on him and he continues to feed, they slash his wings but he continues to feed... how could he control himself for months but when it was the matter of his life and death he ignored danger and just fed, and fed randomly, not even trying to kill specifically the people that fought against him

@@MrRys I think it's fine, the bloodlust is pretty insatiable, based on the way most of the human converts (and we have no reason to believe the creature was not once human) behave, it's impressive that the creature "holds out" for so long, as it were. As a matter of fact it seems to kill all the stray cats in a single night, so it's one of the earliest indicators we get of how intense the desire to feed is.

Now I want a horror movie where at the halfway point the skeptic is proven right about there being no monsters and the second half of the movie is just the characters going back in the cabin and partying.

Agree!

Celebrate the same with the Father character; he wasn’t a villain.

And the crazy conspiracy believer proved right..

@@breakfaith3031actually, that turned into a party movie would be solid. And if you still want a horror movie, have someone die of alcohol poisoning and do a character study of them making the right choices and calling the cops and dealing with the aftermath. Could be really good but people would Have a hard time With it

The CC has a long history of things like this happening. Check out the story of the monk Savonarola in Renaissance Florence. He was a contemporary of Michelangelo, Da Vinci, etc. Also check out the history of the Munster Rebellion.

@@taylorlibby7642 Haley Reinhart creep

Yeah, deeply devout Catholics like my sister and my late mom expressed some really crazy beliefs.

@@cyberwiz979 What? What possible problem could you have with what I wrote? And why do you think ad hominem attacks like that are appropriate?

@@seadog2969 My mom regularly travels to vision/pilgrimage sites. It's a bit much.

Jesus is an evil vampire. He wants you to eat his body and blood. Oh right, I reduced this very respectable religion to a childish insult. 🤔

I'll have to see it!

@@thunderpooch is that what you think the show was saying? Lol what a persecution fetish you people have

@@thunderpooch I'm not a lie

@@the_algorithm 😆 What I'm really getting at with my name is that KZfaq hides behind the excuse of their algorithm. They know precisely how their algorithm works, and it's no longer based entirely on view counts, trends, or a person's interests. Ever since Google bought KZfaq, KZfaq curates content and pushes certain channels and narratives. It's mostly pro corporate and pro stock market. And they have a cover. They don't entirely cap leftist voices or messages; they simply let the ratio overwhelm independent leftist channels. They make sure 100 views of corporate media and/or right wing media is consumed for every 1 truly authentic leftist point of view is consumed. They're capitalist, imperial frauds. They don't want their financial racket to ever go away. Manufacturing false consciousness is what their business model is.

I think Dolores Umbridge definetely knew she was evil.

Oh yeah, Umbridge. Hell yeah, you're right. The sanctimonious villains are always the worst.

I mean real people very rarely believe they're evil and relish in that fact. Most people justify their actions in a way where they're believe their not morally responsible.

Reminds me of that woman in The Mist. These types are really dangerous coz they believe their bullshit.

I was so creeped out by Bev.. there's so many Bev's out there.. or "religious Karens"..

I had a similar experience, though instead of watching Midnight Mass, I watched the Covid 19 Pandemic in the USA.

@@aaron2891I’m very atheist but still don’t trust my government. As should be logical given how true the conspiracies and corruption surrounding Covid 19 have been revealed to be.

What do you mean? You realize the show ends with the majority still having their Faith, right? They realized what they did was wrong and made the choice to die as a community.

​@@Bell_MattBut their "Faith" was used to justify countless horrors and wrong-doing by them until they all realized they were doomed to die and snapped out of it. The original comment is simply saying that the show showed the negative aspects that being guided purely by faith can bring.

@@greyscott5908I think the show was pretty balanced though. Did it show the worst and the horrors? Yes! But did it also show a good view do what faith should be? (Riley, his family, his conversation with Erin, Doctor Sarah, the sherrif) I would say yes. You can be skeptical and still be religious. It isn’t either/or

You know a show is doing its characters right when a dogmatic ideologue is far more of an antagonist than literal inhuman monsters. Mike Flanagan knocked this show out of the park.

Normal people are scarier

Yup, exactly this. I felt as if this was perhaps the first religious horror show/movie that showed respect towards both the faith and the characters, such as the haunting beauty of them walking and singing together to the last mass of their life.

@@danisaksson3214 The last two scenes of the island singing together are chilling and beautiful.

@@daniell1483 For reals. She's the Gaston of the series.

Sorry to read that. :-(

Have you tried getting them to watch it?

@@optillian4182 if they’re anything like the people I know, they would drop the show as soon as the swore once unfortunately lol

Hopefully people think about this in terms of the economy so we can escape the capitalist death cult before it destroys our only habitable planet.

All unfalsifiable beliefs are unhealthy and can turn into a dangerous addiction that can harm the community. Someone who believes in some unproven utopia that is only one war away from being created or that they're pseudo-science means they don't have to take any steps to keep their community safe from a virus is a threat to those around them. Rationality makes one healthier and less likely to harm those around them.

This whole channel is anti Christian bigot channel, it matters to this channel whether you hold a particular religion or not, they are anti Christian.

@@liteney Thou shalt not bear false witness. Repent, liar.

@@miskatonic_alumni "It's not about whether you hold to a particular religion (ideology), the danger comes from allowing blind faith to lead you into harmful situations in an attempt to escape psychological discomfort." This is said with a They/Them who will have you locked in a cage/imprisoned if you don't use their prefered pronouns, in an attempt to escape psychological discomfort, the irony is delicious.

Oh it doesn't? Interesting statement how exactly is this us in a dangerous situation?

@@blastphantomgames6369 you’ve probably never grown up close to or within a fundamental religious household. I’m not talking your casual Christian upbringing. I’ve literally been to a Jesus camp that had us “purge” our sins by actually making us sick and puke. Youth that go through any type of conversion or abusive treatment for “sinning.” Child marriage, which is legal in MANY states, is most common amongst Christian households and is still practiced. A recent Tennessee bill was proposed eliminating age limits on marriage, which is currently already set to an abysmal age (14). If you don’t see the harm as dangerous, idk what to tell you. As far as the show goes, the ending clearly shows an example of “road to hell paved with good intentions” by the priest, and nearly everyone of the church being good people deep down. Except Bev. Fuck Bev.

@@blastphantomgames6369 how old are you, kid

That's honestly one of the saddest things. Otherwise well-intentioned or good people can do horrific and hurtful things because they don't understand the world objectively and act on that false perception.

@@blastphantomgames6369 People getting caught up and converted into a radicalization of their beliefs and doing harm to others. Religious based bigotry, harm, shunning, all kinds of stuff. Putting your own beliefs over others and basic empathy. It is a virus.

I have this problem with all kinds of non-religious social norms. I simply am not capable of being swept up by popular opinion. If it feels like a hill worth dying on, I will grab my banner and be the first to die there. Alone, if I have to.

@@futurestoryteller kind of sounds like you're the type who's gonna be up there alone tbh

@@xXluluchanelXx Says the first to drink the kool-aid.

@@futurestoryteller We're all capable of it, because that's how humans are built. It's good to question and critique all social systems - that is the key to improvement and a more accurate assessment of the world - but at some point you have to pick your battles or nothing will ever get better.

You should seriously consider asking your wife why she thinks writers - especially the ones who write long monologues - obsess and toil over words for years on end but "obviously" have nothing to say. Honestly I find it pretty insulting the entitlement people have to reduce your deepest contemplations to nothing more meaningful than a bear on a unicycle

@@futurestoryteller because not all people have the same worldview and advanced thinking as writers. I guess Stephen Hawking could have gone on a tear that 96% of the world’s population doesn’t understand his theories or painstaking work, but he was smarter than that

@@PutinsMommyNeverHuggedHim Nobody said they were all Stephen Hawking though, just that they tend to have things to say. Do you normally open your mouth with a mind towards being as vapid as possible? That's the way to think about it, even if you're not a writer

I take it she's still religious. Riley is the top notch atheist in media.

Your marriage won't last

This is what I came here to say. It was as strong of an indirect confirmation of the outcome that we could hope to expect.

I thought the effect of the blood had just faded away, so she had no more vampire blood inside her. But I can see why someone would see it as a sign.

@@laislyra5512 - they didn't specify either way, but i took it to mean that the healing property of the blood had vanished due to the original source now being dead.

@@mike.s.605 since the vampire blood in the series was explained through science, I expected it to follow certain laws. It is unclear to me how the destruction of the source of the blood would affect the existence of blood inside other people's bodies. I just assumed the doctor was right and eventually, people who didn't turn into vampires expell the blood from their bodies. I read some comments saying that there are movies where killing the vampire before the transformation is completed would save the infected person. I understand why people would make this association, but the vampire thing would have to be some kind of magical curse, and I don't think that's the direction where the series was headed.

@@laislyra5512 It's possible that's the intention, but I don't think so. The doctor was certainly trying to find a scientific explanation, but the kind of explanation she was leaning toward doesn't really explain the post-death transformation and sudden craving for blood any more than it does the effects ceasing when the creature dies. So I don't think scientific realism is intended. Besides, whether it's meant to be naturally explainable or not, the effects simply fading away at that moment seems quite unlikely. The effects of drinking a small amount of blood weekly had been building up for some time, which implies that it would take longer than that to fade away without the regular dose. And there was no earlier indication that it was wearing off, such as if she was having more difficulty walking over the course of the night. I won't say your interpretation is wrong, but I don't find it as compelling as the supernatural version.

I am so sorry for your pain. I can relate as my mother (though not as dogmatic) has also fallen into cognitive dissonance with reality and it's hard to talk about anything deep and meaningful with her because she will bring it back to apocalyptic thinking. Breaks my heart.

I’m so sorry you have to deal with that.

This strangely reminds me of Alzheimer; losing your mother while she's still there, and she doesn't recognise you, living in her own world.

Same. My mother does the same. And i get annoyed by that. Although me and my father are carvaka (a form of atheism that is allowed in hinduism).

Seen Professor Daves Video on the Discovery-Institute?

Same! I feel like some of his reasonableness came from his experience as "other" to Crockett and America as a whole. He was able to see Christianity abuse its status as the dominant religion (teaching the bible in school) from an outside perspective. He doesn't want to make the same mistakes, and so is able to practice his religion without forcing his beliefs on others.

If every theist was like him, I wouldn't have near as much of an issue with religion as I do now.

not even 10% of muslims r like him

@@islamandchristianityhater5713for real. The polls on opinions on homosexuality in the Middle East is wild. 😆

I hope you break free from mind-forged manacles and realize that all religions are man-made that must be indoctrinated, typically at a young age.

Would it have worked if the father was an atheist or a Christian too? Someone explain the significance of juxtaposing the Muslim characters with the Christian ones pls because I feel like I’m missing something. I’m not religious but the writers seemed to have an agenda? Muslims are never radical?

@@chanellee9762 I think it’s significant when you consider the context of 9/11 and how fundamentalist Christians will often characterise Muslims as radical terrorists - when in fact the bloody history of Christianity is comparable in terms of fanatical violence. There’s also a tired trope of radical Muslims being used as the ‘baddies’ in the story, or the corrupting influence in a story’s community. So it was so refreshing and notable that the good Muslim man watched on as Christians radicalise his son. Basically, I found it to be a powerful statement that all religions can become violently all-consuming. People forget that about Christianity sometimes.

@@chanellee9762 the importance is the real life bigotry Muslims in the west face. He is a subject of bigotry and has to operate in that environment.

@@chanellee9762ude, I thought the EXACT same thing. At this moment I was like, “Ok, yeah, you lost me.” You NEVER wanna bring in another religion when attacking one specifically. It’s kinda like the US, when people start bashing it for slavery and then someone else goes, “uh… ok, but what about the modern slave trade and sex trafficking currently going on in Africa, India and China?” Like, FOCUS on one religion because you can make a point for radicalism in general, the minute you glorify another religion while shitting on another, the gig is up. They really victimized the father and son while pretty much vilifying the rest of the town.

​​@@controversialverbal3792​I personally just interpreted it as the show portraying bigotry against Muslims. Despite Hassan being and his son being decent people, Bev still kept calling them terrorists and such. It's certainly much better than how God's Not Dead used Islam as a prop to make Christianity better by comparison. I also wouldn't say the show is attacking or praising a religion, but rather it is attacking extremism as they discussed the video. The show was more on portraying the dangers of blind faith. Hassan just happened to be someone with faith but was still critical.

Well, that's the dogmatic view. The other possible interpretation is the medical one Sarah had proposed, that if you stop receiving the "angel" blood, it will eventually work it's way out of your system and it's effects will wear off. You're presented with both possible interpretations and allows the viewers to choose, without confirming or invalidating one or the other option.

All she said was "I can't feel my legs." Maybe that was just because she'd been sitting in one position on the boat for too long.

@@Grim_Beard No. The series wouldn't end with a completely inconsequential line that has nothing to do with the story.

@@moonlily1 Go to your bookshelf, get your dictionary, and look up the word 'joke'. Also, my joke makes more sense than your explanation. She was one of the people _most_ exposed to the 'angel blood', as she was going to mass every day. It wouldn't make sense for it to 'wear off' that quickly and suddenly. The explanation that the effect stops when sunrise hits the wounded angel and kills it, while it comes from outside the narrative (i.e. from other vampire stories), at least isn't inconsistent with what the story shows.

@@Grim_Beard No, your joke isn't a better suggestion than the possibility that her line referred to something that had already been alluded to in the story telling which would suggest a payoff or follow up later in the story. It's not inconsistent because there isn't any rule or evidence that suggests that Leeza is the only person who goes to mass everyday or has consumed more of the blood than anyone else or that it couldn't wear off if it missed a dose. The story has some loose ends that didn't get tied up- like why did Ali come back when he presumably had not been taking communion and why did monsignor die that rely a lot on assumptions or implications. The idea that Leeza's comment meant that the creature had died sits just fine with me, but it isn't the only possibility.

Seen Professor Daves Video on the Discovery-Institute?

Lol yes

To a European Americans look completely crazy when it is about religion. They say here even, that if you travel to US a good advice for Europeans is not to engage in conversation about religion and why prople are so religious (and also dont ask why everybody is so fat)

@@ipercalisse579 the sad reality is that is not just the US, I'm in Latin America and we are not that different in our extremist and even Europe has its outliers like Poland.

there’s a lot of european countries that fall into religious craze like poland and sometimes eastern ones

@@a.i.contacttracer305- Go home, edgelord.

Oh, the user name is perfect for this video.

Ooh my I love the holy koolaid channel😁

Someone should go under some Trailers for M-Mass and tell them about this video here.

The most "Saved to Watch Later" video that GM had ever created!

I literally saw the beginning of this video paused it watched the show in a day and finished the video before bed

That's what I did. Loved the show.

@@rainingtacos3135 Ditto

Typing this as I watch the preroll ads. I loved this show as a Catholic, and it spoke so so much to the experience of disenchantment with the authority of the church. Such care was put into this show to make it so accurate, and it spoke to directly to my experience.

@@rachaelregier8442 Modern media isn't about trying to keep Christians from being radicalized, it's run by people who are vehemently anti Christian in general. I can't remember ONE movie or series that does anything similar about "sweJ" or "smilsuM". Your religion is the ONLY one that is routinely mocked in countries where it was practiced by the majority of people. Weird, isn't it?

@@c.odubhlaoich2948 remember that time the Muslim church enslaved unwed mothers in a system of commercial laundries that they operated? Me neither.

@@MrTaxiRob Idk but that sounds pretty similar to what "smilsuM" do to girls while in Europe, except not for laundries but for s e x

@@MrTaxiRob Remember a couple years ago when 400 Christians were bom bed in a Church by "smilsuM" and the media wouldn't even call the dead, Christians, but instead everyone called them "easter worshipers"?

Cults were also AMAZINGLY covered by Mothers Basement.

That scene drove me CRAZY I could 100% imagine it happening in real life in certain parts of the US… so frustrating the logic Bev would argue with.

@@a.i.contacttracer305 lol, ironically i have to get my vaccine card reprinted. Some dude stole it from my car. Which is a *really* wierd thing to steal.

@@a.i.contacttracer305 when it's reprinted i'll send you a copy lol

@@a.i.contacttracer305 damn he got me guys. I guess i have to give up the act, i am actually a secret antivax spy from whatever planet they come from.

@@felicityhopkins9759 I think you just encountered a troll :)

@@lillia5333 i know, just playin along :p

Haha yeah when another exvangelical friend told me about that beginning I was reluctant to start it. :p

Yeah, the moment a character noted there was a stray cat problem on the island I thought "Oh no..."

The dog and cats dying killed me

@@boobooismine1 Doesn't it seem wrong that we're often okay with seeing adult humans getting killed in movies but can't stand the death of a dog or cat? I think so. But being human is being messed up, and that alone fascinates me. Hell, one of my unpublished stories has stray cats getting killed. I hate it, don't want it in there but it's the only way for events to make sense. First cats then humans. Damn! Maybe Mike Flanagan didn't want to have dead cats either? Makes sense. But since there's a predatory vampire that just endured a long voyage in a small box he had no choice...

@BARF No, Midnight Mass is one way religion can go very wrong, and high-control cults are another way. Most of the time religion doesn't push people into extremes of behavior.

Why would she apologize for something she didn't do?

@@arsic094 it's not an actual apology, it goes something like... "I am sorry you had to go through that" it's not that she could of done anything but more of an acknowledgement I suppose.

I’m sorry you didn’t grow up with good parents and hope you’re doing well.

My dearest friend,you are not alone, we love you......

"(even though I kind of don't believe she fully buys it herself)" You're probably right. The most successful con-men 'know' that it is a con.

@@charlesesseltine7054 I think they do buy it and just rationalize it away. Otherwise she wouldn't need to hold on to anything that makes her feel above other people

Did any/many predictive prophecies come true?

There's nothing fair about calling this show perfect in any sense of the word. Not seeing the plot holes the size of a Borg vessel is proof of irrationality which is basically athiests just want to be right. Just like leftists. They just want to hurt their competition because they're so butthurt by their past experiences like I've heard so much here.. Boo hoo... my fundamentallist mother blah blah blah.... I was hurt so now I have to fucking hurt the world. That's like a weaker form of a serial killer.

Cersei actually is a product of her world and family tho.

​@@crhu319 Nope, can't agree. The old Nature Vs Nurture argument. Sure there was some nurture involved, but Cersei, like Beverley Keane, walked her own path and made their own choices. Both knew that they were manipulating their Worlds to their own ends and neither cared about anyone else enough to give a shit. Psychopaths lacking any empathy and very little humanity. Regardless, that wasn't the point. The comparison was about the disgust Bev and Cersei caused in their audiences, not the breakdown of the how's and why's they did what they did.

Most of my Evangelical family, unfortunately.

A year ago I took a class on Native American history. I learned how we massacred them and forced them out of their lands and onto reservations and their kids were forced to become Christians. When I talked to a family member she said it was god's plan and that thats the price of progress. So....I mean yeah...go figure

Yo, i had to hear her speak to figure out she was a chick lol

I actually don't know someone like that personally, seems to be more of an American thing

But who's is the you reading this?

I don't know, for me what makes great horror is the fact that the horror element could be removed and the film still stands. Extremism is very real.

Man that's genius I'm stealing this

Remember when they had a fit over The Life of Brian and even got it banned in some countries?

@@hannahbrennan2131 lol....yes

Meanwhile people in this comment section are using a fictional movie to propagate their qualms with Christianity.

This is 100% correct and a perfect description of leftism/liberalism. Moderates look at us warning about the radical nature of leftists and activists and castrating children etc. and they're like "Calm down son, you're too crazy with all that shit." Or it's like "that's just a few crazy people. that will never grow into anything."

@@fiftyshadesofurban First of all, liberals are not left-wing. Second, your comment would have made more sense if you swapped the left with the right.

If you have a message, try to make it appear as if you're trying to support the opposite of it. Give all the reasons why this opposing view could be correct, almost have your viewers agreeing with it, and then just pull the rug out from under it. The viewer gets to experience the tempting emotions and faulty reasoning that would make them fall victim to some false movement, ideology, whatever have you. It has greater effect since the viewer will have the feeling of "Dang, I was on the edge of almost agreeing with that".

Lets Talk Religion also looked at Midnight Mass.

Yeah, I stopped watching in the first episode because I thought it was just another teen vampire show. I didn’t realize it was such a thoughtful and complex narrative.

I'm post faith and would say that m prior experience with that universe has always made me more resistant to the temptations of radicalization. I can more easiy identify the differece between benvolent kind compassion as an extension of faith in a higher good and dogmatic devotion to the in group demanding sycophantic loyaty as the price of membership. Being a gold star atheist does not necessarily make one more immune.

I was never religious either, but I love Flanagan. I know he likes to weave in social themes into his movies but is this also horror genre?

@@bloodink9508 well I suppose there's 'atheist' as a person who doesn't believe in God, and 'atheist' as a person who doesn't feel the need to have a religion. I've never had a faith, but listening to religious people talk, I infer they have a natural draw to that kind of thing. I've never felt the need to have all the answers, my spirituality isnt particularly strong. The existence of post religious 'spirituality' would tend to confirm that many humans have an innate need for something that the physical world can't provide. So while, yes you can have radical atheists I think in general it's a trait of the religious and spiritual.

@@a.i.contacttracer305 Wtf does that have to do with my question about the genre of the movie? Lol!! I have nothing to prove to some idiot in yt comments

@@alexlarsen6413 well A.I's baseless accusations have upvotes so they must be right, right? Unless it's a reference to something neither of us are aware of?

Hi there. I'd like to share my perspective from a Muslim POV. In Islam, we believe that the responsibilities of worship falls on those who possess their full mental faculties. Therefore those who are too young (normally children below 7 y/o), in a coma, and the mentally ill don't share this responsibility. In case of dementia, it depends on how much they remember about the worship process. For example, if the elderly parent(s) still remember the basics of prayer and are still able to perform the minimum, then those who are caring for them can help by reminding them about prayer times and preparing for the rituals. If their mental faculties deteriorate to the point that they can no longer remember, then they no longer obligated to perform those prayers and rituals. Other than that, we do our best in taking care of them, being there, and praying for them. If we are capable and able to afford it, certain rituals can be performed on their behalf, such as donating wealth under their names or the pilgrimage to Mecca being such examples.

I second this.

My humble opinion... treat their spiritual needs as any other need. It really is that simple. Dr's visit or church service... treat it the same and help her whatever way you can. This is the beauty of our world. Our beliefs don't have to separate us. Accept each other for who we are, love each other despite our differences.

Both your needs are important. You need to decide what you're willing to do and then do your best to compromise (hard, but necessary) Personally, I would feel like taking your mother to church is like feeding her whatever she wants in her old age. If she refuses to eat anything but strawberry milkshakes and snickerdoodles, then I guess it's good she's eating something even if that thing is not the best for her. People need to feel like they have meaning and purpose in life, and if going to church is when she's willing to leave the house and it gives her purpose, I would support her decision. That said, I don't know your personal situation, so if it's going to put undue pressure on you or if she's falling into seriously bad habits, you don't have to. Just keep in mind that you can do a trial period and see how it goes.

@@idrabohm3678 Sorry I didn't provide much info on the situation. Perhaps I should explain a bit for you and anyone else who wants to share any advice. Also, thank you for your input! *UPDATE:* My mother is in a nursing home, which she's coming to accept is permanent because she's bound to a bed and a wheelchair due to head trauma and neuropathy. She has little to no use of her left limbs due to seizures during surgery when they released blood trapped under her skull after she fell over a year ago. Her vision is improved enough that she's been able to read again for the past couple of months. Her short term memory is kind of impaired, and she's been diagnosed with early stage dementia. This is more than she and my stepdad can handle alone, so the most cost effective way to make sure her medical needs are met is for her to be where she is from now on. (It's a highly rated facility where the staff are capable and friendly. Some even share her Evangelical Christian views.) My stepdad currently doesn't qualify to live there with her. He is handling everything. He spends most of his time with her, and he goes home to his own place at night. This is very sad for her, but it's really best for him so he can sleep when she needs late night help. They love each other so much; I feel awful for both of them. She recently went on an antidepressant, which is helping more than words can describe, but of course, "Jesus took my grief away," is the story we're going with, so now she can be "at peace" with these sudden and total life-changes. I don't care who gets the credit; just glad it's working, and I hope she doesn't quit. I'm okay with the religion stuff as long as it 1) isn't forcing me to convert, and/or 2) doesn't stray into their politics because their politics are 100% based on converting _everyone_ to their religion.

"Catholic/Jewish background" 😅😅😅😅

@@elgatofelix8917 Mom's Catholic, Dad's Jewish. Sorry if that's too difficult of a concept for you to hold in that tiny brain.🤷‍♂️

@@taylorlibby7642lol yeah if it was "too difficult" I wouldn't be laughing! 😅😅😅😅😅

@@elgatofelix8917 Well you've had real issues with grammar and spelling in your other comments, and the concept of a religiously mixed family seems to challenge your ego for some obscure reason, so I'd say that there seem to be a few things too difficult for you to deal with. BTW- The laughing emojis are cute, but you manage to somehow make them seem kinda desperate and sad. All in all you need to go back to troll school and get better if you wanna keep this sorta thing up. Have a great day!!😁👋

@@taylorlibby7642 aww how cute! A jewish grammar Nazi... Classic! 😅😅😅😅😅😅

Have you ever heard Alan Watts talk about death? The video "Everyone is "I" (to themselves)" is the best one.

Yes. How so many people right now act exactly the same way Christians do.. Asking the universe for stuff. Sometimes even capitalizing the word. As if it's a person. They say the universe wants you to blah blah etc. It's exactly the same........ except that they're basically asking a thing to give them stuff. And they're thanking a thing for giving it to them.. But then they ridicule and laugh at someone who believes in a .. what did those people say? "an imaginary sky man" ... while talking to what essentially is a vast array of steller matter and objects within a huge void.

His sacrifice truly broke my heart.

Actually, the fact that the town is super religious and a priest encourages and them is probably all it would take in real life

I think #1 is clearly the intention. If nothing else Riley and Erin, who have lived out in the real world for quite a long time, would have at least heard of Twilight and/or Dracula and would have therefore used the word "vampire" to describe what was happening. It's like a zombie movie where you have to make peace with the assumption that the giant pop culture phenomenon that is the monster doesn't exist. I think it's a reasonable concession to make in both cases, so that we can have a fresh experience of the monster.

@@shinyary2 that's my thoughts too, but think about how hilarious if it was something like, there was a huge billboard advert for twilight or other vampire media right next to the ferry port on the mainland and no one ever noticed it. It made me chuckle when I first thought of that

@@disinterestedhomo6002 lol it is kind of funny to think about. I mean, who can blame them? Looking up at billboards is clearly a worldly activity and thus sinful. Who knows what temptations might await on mysterious billboards on the other side of that ferry? Dare we take the chance on our immortal souls? I say not, my brothers and sisters in Christ! Cast not your eyes upon these heathen idols, these monuments to sexual immorality and perversions! For as the Israelites fashioned for themselves a golden calf before the very mount where they were to receive God's holy commandments, so too does the world fashion images for themselves to worship after their own fashion. Give not into temptation!

Have you considered they would simply rationalize the stories of vampires as previous encounters with angels, now that they've met one. Especially since one of those two supernatural beings they believe in wholeheartedly, and the other is nothing but a story.

Well, sexual predators who target children like Roman Polansky received Oscar notoriety - so why not this?

@@elgatofelix8917 We can see where your mind is El Perro. In the gutter.

I love the series but it's not a film, though? Oscar awards for series aren't a thing.

@@elgatofelix8917 God was a sexual predator of children so get off your high horse about what you think Hollywood is while you worship a rapist mass murderer. The problem is men who want to rape not a particular vocation.

I'm also a Mormon, and I've also been fighting a "weakness of the flesh" for the past few years, and I feel like my whole experience with it has been way different from yours. Sure reading scriptures and praying are supposed to help, but I was never promised that my weakness would go away. The scripture promises that you wont be tempted above that which ye are able to bear, but that you will be provided with a way to escape. I recall having the first half of that scripture memorized, but totally discounting the latter in the early days of my struggle, before I joined a therapy program. It's not that we'll be strong enough to overcome every temptation, its that there is a way to get better, and God will help us when we need it most. I recently turned 18, and am preparing to go on my mission. I've had concerns that I wont be ready in time, but they've been met with the assurance that I'm not on a hard deadline, and that every slip up doesn't mean the end of the world. I ended up in this situation by complete accident in spite of my best efforts, and have found myself wondering why God didn't warn me, but then I remember that a) he kind of did and I just wasn't in a state of mind to pay attention and b) I've actually learned a lot from fighting this. It's made me more empathetic to other people, and it's teaching me how to fight for my best future even when it seems like I'll never be able to achieve that. I've learned that there's value in the fight itself, and I'm a better person for the fact that I haven't given up. God condemns rebellion, not weakness. There's a conference talk about that. The hardest part in overcoming a weakness is in finding the balance in caring so much that a failure destroys you, leaving you vulnerable to the next attack, and giving up. I'd encourage you stick with it a little while longer. Ask your questions, and search for your answers in a variety of places. The scriptures can give you the answers, but they're not the only source anymore. I don't have all of the answers just yet, but I've received enough to feel confident that God knows what he's doing, and that my efforts are enough for now. I promise you he cares. I don't know what you've tried, but I've found exercise, journal writing, music (Jar of Hearts taken out of context works pretty well for me), talking to supportive people, and occasionally whacking my pillow with a wooden sword to be effective additions to prayer and scripture study. I can't say I'll be surprised if I serve my mission with no troubles only to have a hard time again when I get back. I've hear that's pretty common. I'd be happy to talk if you need someone, but I hope you have someone you know a bit better and trust a bit more who can do better, or perhaps a local counseling group you can find. Maybe start by trying to identify thought processes that do and don't help, and make sure whoever is supposed to be supporting you knows when what they're saying isn't actually supportive. It's hard, but so far I've found it to be worth it for the person I'm becoming.

@Zendikari Sparkmage Yep. Exactly. God doesn't care, because he doesn't exist. He never did, he never will. Make your own choices that make you happiest without worrying what others think of you. Best of luck!

"Offers miraculous benefits to it's proponents, but never delivers" hmm sounds suspiciously like the fabled "return to normalcy" the CDC, WHO, multinational pharmaceutical conglomerates and the Biden administration has been promising for well over 2 years now if only we "inoculate" ourselves with an experimental Big Pharma injection.

@@elgatofelix8917 It's people like you who are preventing a return to normalcy. I doubt you know much about vaccine development and epidemiology (and what is required to reach herd immunity) apart from the mis/disinformation that is being perpetuated by, in particular, those with a political ideology who don't give a damn about lost lives, or religionists too deluded to know better. I know, from painful experience, that arguing with those mired in conspiracy thinking is futile but if you or someone you care about does become dangerously ill please stay away from the medical treatment that might be necessary to save your lives...you don't deserve it.

@@garethedwards1926 OK, show me proof of your claim that I have prevented thousands upon thousands of individuals from getting injected with your miracle jab, genius. According to you, nobody on Earth has been vaxxed all because of "people like me". Go ahead and prove your claim which contradict all data being reported by the CDC and other vaxx advocacy organizations. Let's see your proof, I'll get the popcorn! 😂

If your parents only love you because your in the 'faith', then they don't really love you. I told my parents I left Christianity and it was rough, but I didn't want to pretend to be something I'm not just to make people feel better. If you've changed and the people around you want to stay the same, it might just mean you need to be around a new crowd.

I can kind of relate to keeping quiet about things to avoid hurting your family. It hasn't been a major burden on me per se, but it definitely doesn't feel nice. There's not much pressure aside from my dad asking me whether I've been studying scripture. (I watch enough skeptical/atheist content that I'm not _technically_ lying when I say "yeah, now and then"). My mom doesn't really probe me too much, either. In her words, "if you're an atheist, just don't tell me and your dad".

@@DudeTheMighty Yeah I definitely can say I know the Bible inside and out, a little more than I'd like😂

I can relate to this because my dad is one of the church ministers. I've to do a lot of things for the church, but I've been an atheist for almost five years now. It's difficult because I'm from South Africa, the majority of the nation is Christian, I am not financially independent. I know that speaking out will end up with me being kicked out of the house, and my siblings - I'm the eldest - being completely isolated from any social interactions besides church. I've been barely holding on to my sanity for almost five years now, keeping quiet, while the truth, my mind and my very existence just want to scream out every time I sit at church and hear the nonsense and bigotry. My parents are from this cult called, The Message or Branhamism. You guys should check it out.

@@leothenrdkng Wow, I'd never heard of 'Branhamism' before. It definitely must take some highly faithful people to believe in all that, but I guess you could say the same for all of Christianity. Your story is inspiring, I'm with you on everyone around me being Christian. It's strange to think that every family member and friend I have would believe that I should burn in Hell for being apostate, so I try not to think about that. That's why I'm so grateful for the like-minded people I've found on the internet, I doubt I'd have any sanity left if I couldn't go here. You sound like a very strong person but 5 years is a long time for anyone to keep something so essential inside. I know the weight on you must be so heavy, I hope it gets easier to carry in your future.

Atheists dont recommend each other enough Atheist-KZfaqrs, in my opinion, kidna keeping them all small. So excuse me if i just dorp some: Belief It Or Not, Viced Rhino, Atheist Jr, Telltale, Creaky Blinder, Hbomberguy.

@@nenmaster5218 I know some, but not all these youtubers. Better go check them out!

Commenting to remind myself to look this one up later. 👍

It's a great show as well! Ridley Scott produced it.

Finished the 1st season, holy cow its fascinating! (It does get WIERD toward the end of season one, need to see season 2 to understand wtf happened), but I highly encourage people to watch it!

Raised by Wolves storyline and characters are influenced heavily by hebrew , roman,and greek myth. It's got interesting things about it, however its not really saying anything in the manner of Midnight Mass. Which is the reason this video by Drew & Vi was made.

I always found it completely insane how the Catholic Church not devoting themselves completely to cultural extermination and let the people who converted bring aspects of their culture with them something to condemn them for. Besides it is not like modern missionaries don't also do this exact thing, they don't demand all former cultural practices be extinguished.

It’s easier to pull people in if you don’t make them change more than they’re willing, and new converts are revenue streams. It’s not surprising at all.

At least in your jesuit school. You were introduced to philosophy, science and other world religions. We don't do that in islam. Most muslims dont even understand what there re reading in the quran.

I've always wondered why the Baptists and Catholics hate each other. My parents are Baptist, and my grandmother (dad's side) is Catholic and they're always making snide comments at each other.

@@ToastyJunebugs as I've come to understand it, the Baptist view the Catholics as pagans and worshippers of false idols (like images/statues of Mary or the Saints) and false gods (like they think Catholics deify the Papacy). My parents were particularly aghast that a _lot_ of Catholic tradition-- from holidays, to certain dogma and theology, to how the Church tries to keep regular people from reading and interpreting the Bible as they want you to go through your priest --as pagan in origin. They did have a point there-- the early church had an at least de facto, if not du jure, policy of _adopting & adapting_ pagan beliefs and rituals so that converting them into Christendom was easier. They would _adopt_ things like the yule log or winter festival or the household gods and _adapt_ those things to Christianity-- the winterfest becameh Christmas holiday with a yule log/tree as decoration; or the function of the traditional household gods was transfered to the saints as the patron saint of X, Y, or Z, rather than a small god of X, Y, or Z The catholics, for their part, see themselves as the true home of Christendom; the original, with holy tradition on their side. They see baptists as just one more failure of Protestantism-- protestants have no holy tradition to help guide theology snd interpret the bible so they have schisms over sticking points thereof. So they see protestants in general as a failed attack on Holy Mother Church-- but still dangerous That's how I see it anyway