Thanks! That clears up quite a lot I didn't find when "fighting" this thing. Especially that 2,1 firmware sounds pretty interesting!

One other thing you should really try is make sure you have the latest software updates via 10.6.8, then use boot camp to get the drive a dos compatible partition preset to use the weird EFI overlay Apple did as a haxie to make MBR windows work. Linux might use that, but also do the 2,1 mod to help. And video cards aren’t hard to get. Try a amd hd5770 Mac edition.

​@@joshj88could also flash a windows gpu to run on Mac using dos to make it Mac compatible

The 2,1 firmware update adds support for the faster processors of the 2,1. It's highly recommended for the processor upgrade but is otherwise mostly pointless. It doesn't change the firmware to 64-bit. That didn't happen until the 2008 Mac Pro 3,1.

Right, well I'm that case it doesn't make much sense indeed. I don't intend to swap the CPU's on this one.

Thanks!

Call it nostalgia haha

Its the guy from the beamng forums!

So is solus dead or not many people say that it's dead and many people say that it's still alive

Others have mentioned that as well. I might try that.

I have linux mint on mine, 64bit, as that still has a 32bit capable installer

I used to have this exact mac. its 32-bit UEFI is a GIANT pain in the butt,..as you ran into yourself. that is the issue. 32-bit UEFI but the CPU is 64-bit. the 3,1 mac pro (which I have now) does not have this issue and is so much easier to deal with-its a entirely different motherboard, though. 1,1 macs can be flashed to a 2,1 it enables better CPU support I believe but does not fix the UEFI migraine

You flashed it to accept UEFI64? I couldn't find anything about that. Care to share how?

@@ex-itguy sadly it was already flashed when i got it! afaik its the efi flashed with 2,1 firmware, but i know little more than that

I read that it's quite common to flash these things with 2,1 firmware. I might try that to see what difference it makes.

@@ex-itguy Good luck man!

​@@ex-itguy flashing it will most likely give it 64bit support as the 1,1 and 2,1 shared similar features and hardware some have flashed nvidia gpus to work with macs to turn them into an all in one work/gaming pc these computers are good for what they are have yet to get my hands on one tho

Awesome! Be sure to check out the other comments because there are some interesting things to try in there. I'll probably make a follow up video with that. :)

Thanks for noticing! I figured it might help someone out. :)

It's really not necessary on this one. Less than 800MB in use with KDE loaded. 5GB in total but really upgradable. System feels about as fast as my 2015 MacBook Pro (i5, 8GGB) on MacOS.

Haven't tried Zorin, as it seems to be based on Ubuntu (like Mint). I wonder if those HP's have the same issue of just not booting 64 bit UEFI.

@@ex-itguy Yes, Zorin is based on Ubuntu so I was surprised when it worked and LM., did not; all 3 of those HP laptops are from the Probook series, 4310s which has a core 2 duo processor, 6560b which has an i3 processor and a 6570b which has an i5 processor; Windows 11 installed on both the i3 and i5 laptops with a work around, Windows 10 installed straight out of the box. I also had that problem with LM., on a Samsung laptop which has an i5 processor, but I have another Samsung laptop which has an i3 processor and an ssd., which has LM., installed, so I put that drive into the i5 Samsung laptop and it booted, I did try that method with the HP laptops but it did not work. Some installation problems can be fixed by opening the bios and switching some things off and others on, for example, when I tried to install Windows 11 on an HP 8300 USDT., PC., Windows stated that the PC., was not compatible, so I opened the bios and disabled legacy boot, fast boot was already disabled, then I enabled secure boot and saved the changes and then Windows 11 installed without needing to use a work around. I use Linux Mint Mate as my daily driver and I have done for many years, but it's useful to have Windows on a spare computer just in case it's needed for some task.

Sure. It's kinda fun to get all old system like this running again, and the performance isn't bad at all even for 2024 standards, but it doesn't compare to the latest generations haha

Thanks!

Thanks!

@@ex-itguy You're welcome, buddy!

If I can get them for free, I will haha

I believe that's one of the distros I tried. Not sure, didn't keep track

Thanks!

Idk, but elitists don't seem to like it haha

Thanks! And my voice wasn't even working well when I recorded this one haha! I use a Neumann TLM 102. A highpass filter at 60hz, iZotope mouth de-click and an expander. So not much in terms of changing the sound at first, but I do use iZotope Ozone over the whole mix, which mostly pumps it up a bit.

Thanks! You're not the first one to mention that. I might give it a try and see if it makes things easier indeed. :)

Dank je wel!

Interesting, didn't know that! Just figured this card would not be able to support that. I'll put it on my list of things to try. Thanks!

There's no WiFi in this one at all, so yeah. :)

That's... Exactly what's in the video 😅

@@ex-itguyI was referring to the Mint install, not the Arch install.

That might have been a way to fix it, but quite possibly it would break with an update. That issue would not be there on a distro that natively does IA32 UEFI like Arch in this case. Btw the manually fixed Grub didn't work well on a pc either so I probably did something wrong there but after several days of trying to get Mint installed I was kinda done with it. ;)

Not sure if there's a current proprietary driver for this card. It was using the radeon driver btw, as you can see in the inxi shot.

Te gek!

And what if you switch from wayland to x11, like I did?

@@ex-itguy Well, curiously, the drivers were so broken that not even the console would show - The device was booting up, and I could use external displays (from what I remember anyway), but as soon as the video driver loaded everything turned black; It wasn't even getting to the greeter (where you choose X11 over Wayland), pretty much turned black when the GPU was initializing. Strangely, it worked fine on MacOS. I didn't try updating the firmware, and I've since returned the device unfortunately. Could you imagine, I was asked to "do something about it", and that turned out to be Arch Linux with no GPU and broken sleep? Hah! It did work with software rendering, albeit very slow. After all, the device was usable with modern 64-bit software, but really, really slow.

Thanks! I tried several of the included ones. What you see in the video are boom, kraptor and freedoom.

Multiple people mentioned the 2,1 flash only gets you more hardware support. You could try an arch based distro as well I guess.

Modern Linux on a G5 would be a challenge for sure haha

Laptopje erbij is altijd handig. ;)

Sure, but I think there's better options for that haha

Thanks for the compliment haha, it's actually me.

@@ex-itguy wow you could go as the front man for the band

Thanks! I am in a band, but none that big haha

I had the same after nomodeset applied, but as you can see the current installer leaves a broken system on this one.

If jensd can get Windows 11 to run, I don't see why not.

I guess so indeed

Idk, this was my first time trying arch. I didn't include the whole menu but I did go back once to change an option I had set wrong.

it's grub-install --target=i386-efi

With all the reactions there probably will be a revisit video. I'll keep your comment in mind!

I don't see why that would be an issue. I imagine it wouldn't have issues running about any DOS game from DOSBox.

You mean PowerPC probably? And no, this is an early Intel Mac

Yeah, MacOS ;) But no. I haven't.

Not sure what you mean?

I mean you run latest linux system try same with MacOS and Windows and meaby even ChromeOS

On 2006 mac pro

Latest MacOS will not run because Apple stopped supporting these machines a long time ago. Latest Windows should work as I mention in the video, but I personally don't care much for Windows. ChromeOS could be fun indeed.

Never heard of that before, thanks for the heads up!

@@ex-itguydon’t use open core, use open core legacy patcher to get newer versions of macOS. Although 2007 and up is officially supported

@@Ordlnary_Gamerthat’s a correct suggestion, adding that he should also use said open core for more operating system options.

You didn't see the video, did ya? ;)

@@ex-itguy yes and i see you try to install somthing from CD/DVD Superdrive and don't boot

Not me, but someone else

A Dutch guy as well I take it? ;) Marktplaats indeed, and nearby.

@@ex-itguy Yup, dutch too, surprised you got it for free, i never find free computers/laptops on there.

Sort by price, the first few pages will be filled with free stuff. Sometimes there will be a computer in there. ;)

@@ex-itguy Will do that, thank you!

That's sad

I guessed as much indeed

@ex-itguy In theory, you can tell proton to fall back to wine's slower, but still adequate openGL renderer.

​@@hanro50I can confirm this.

It’s technically not! Open Mandriva and Mageia (not mentioned) are both descendants of Mandriva, (If memory serves).

Haha, yeah freedoom is basically Doom... although it looks a bit goofy

Well it worked fine, until I started a game, which is... interesting.

@@ex-itguy i have the same experience, with usb mouse. The usb driver is not too good, so they suggest ps2 mouse/key.

Interesting. I'd expect a laptop keyboard and touchpad to be USB as well and those work fine in the ones I tried. This Mac doesn't take ps/2 so I guess DOS is out of the question then haha

What world be the point of that? Just curious. Both systems aren't exactly retro and not modern enough to go on the internet with them.

@@ex-itguy Well, most of the tasks I ultimate observe you doing at the end were offline, office productivity, playing games. Its only if you need to connect it to the Internet, in that case I would go with Windows 10.

Apart from browsing the internet, you are correct. I just wouldn't want to keep it disconnected and thus want a modern OS (and I would never prefer windows, but that's personal taste).

Hehe, I bet he is!

Well I got the thing for free so... and these things really are not worth much so you should be able to find one very cheap.

You could've seen that in the channel description. Yes I am. :-)

@@ex-itguyleuke video!!

@@ex-itguy Oo nice, I have a friend on discord who's also Dutch but can speak English like a native English

Yes I am

@@ex-itguy that’s what I thought lol

Not even sure which distrosI tried, but I think I indeed forgot about that one!

You should've heard me at the moment I was trying over and over again lol

Is my pronunciation that bad? 😂

Hahaha

Yes, that's what I found out. It's in the video.

I don't intend to keep the machine. This is what I had laying around. It's about the same era harddrive than used to be in it originally

Also: some people prefer older hardware to use same age storage media. (This is why others might)

I don't see the point, but maybe I will at some point. :)

Or you could use archinstall in 5 minutes instead of a whole afternoon

@@shib5267 Installing arch manually is not hard. It takes around 15 min. Also forgot to mention somebody installed arch manually in like 1-2 minute speedrun.

Your junk

ah you could max out the ram and cpu for shore it doesn't have the latest but still it is a qite capable cpu the board is dual socket so you could max out 2x 3 GHz Dual Core Xeon 5160 32 GB (8x 4 GB DIMMs 1066 MHz DDR3 ECC SDRAM ) if you don't want to use mac os you als can configure to 64GB ( 8x 8 GB DIMMs 1066 MHz DDR3 ECC SDRAM ) 2x ATI Radeon HD 4870 and you will have a lot of extension cards you want to throw at raid card you name it it is a 8MB cache Cpu it still holds for today standards it might not be for server tasks verry performant ( imagine my 11gen intel has only 2 MB cache laptop and y can run windows 11 , latest Linux , mac os , android at the same time, imagine what you could do with 4x the power mostly that you could offload graphics to the gpu it is not junk it is server hardware many modern devices can't reach to that performance

For what?